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Updated: players reiterate dedication to Penn State

Penn State football players leave the Lasch Football Buliding  following a team meeting after the announcement of the NCAA penalties Reuters

Now that the NCAA has drastically loosened its transfer restrictions for Penn State free agents football players, the mad dash to fill positions of need on rosters around college football has begun in earnest.

Some players will inevitably decide to pursue other opportunities, as coach Bill O’Brien noted on ESPN’s “Mike and Mike” Wednesday morning. And they should be allowed to do so without any criticism whatsoever. Players choose a school for different reasons. If it was to compete for a national championship, they’re not going to get that chance with the Nittany Lions.

But some Penn State players have decided they will stick with the program, at least for today. Roughly 25 of those players gathered for a group statement right around the time O’Brien was making the ESPN rounds. Speaking on behalf of the group was senior running back Michael Zordich and senior linebacker Michael Mauti.

You can watch video of the announcement HERE, or read it in its entirety below:

This team is sticking together. We aren’t going anywhere. And we could not be more proud to be Penn Staters now. We look at this as a great opportunity to have the ability to bring back not only a team but an entire university.

This team has taken on more adversity than any team has faced in history which is a testament to our commitment to our teams character, our fans, and our university. One man didn’t build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down. This program was built on the backs of the thousands of great men who put on the Penn State uniform. Today it is no different.

No sanction or politician can tear this team apart. No one can take away what this university means to us. We will stick together and create our own legacy. Our loyalty lies only with our teammates, coaches, fans and families. No one else.

It’s not going to be easy but we know that we have acquired the strength that we have overcome and we will embrace our anger and burn it as fuel this season.

We can’t wait for September 1 and to be back in Beaver Stadium and playing for Penn State in front of the best fans in the nation. We ask everyone to come out, show the support, wear your colors proudly and show that adversity makes the Penn State nation tougher and stronger.

Not among the group was running back Silas Redd. Redd was scheduled to appear at Big Ten media days, but now word is coming that no players from PSU will. 

It’s been rumored Redd might transfer to USC.

Additionally, starting quarterback Matt McGloin tweeted the following statement yesterday:

“If I have learned anything from this game, it is: “tough times don’t last, tough people do.” This program has been through some hard times. I and many others, have stayed here out of love for this university; its academic programs, teammates, our wonderful fans and tremendous student body. We, as student-athletes, are being punished for going to class, graduating, being involved in the community and playing football. Even though these penalties are extremely harsh, I am a Nittany Lion and will remain one. I believe in the core values I have learned in this program. It is not Nittany Lion Football. It is Nittany Lion family. I encourage all players, recruits, and supporters to stay committed to the greatest football program in America. Scholarships and bowl games cannot destroy the fabric of our family. Coach O’Brien and his staff will lead us through this difficult time. All I ask is for the fans to continue to believe in us. WE ARE!”

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57 Responses to “Updated: players reiterate dedication to Penn State”
  1. houndofthebaskervols says: Jul 25, 2012 10:25 AM

    Very admirable. I was not a fan of Bill O’Brien at New England, but he’s impressed me this week. Best of luck to all these kids and the Penn State community.

  2. steeler1nation says: Jul 25, 2012 10:25 AM

    Zombies drink kool-aid in State College.

  3. orthomarine says: Jul 25, 2012 10:26 AM

    Not smart for those with NFL aspirations

    Those who know they are not going pro, staying is the best option

  4. dannythebisforbeast says: Jul 25, 2012 10:26 AM

    Pittsburgh people are inbred

  5. omniusprime says: Jul 25, 2012 10:28 AM

    Only a total fool will stay at Pedophile State’s decrepit football program. Well I guess a bunch of second and third stringers might stay so they can actually play since they’re not good enough to be first stringers anywhere else. If Silas Redd has a shred of intelligence he blows that perverted scene at Unhappy Valley and heads for sun and fun at USC where he’ll have a great chance to win a national championship.

  6. psuravens19 says: Jul 25, 2012 10:28 AM

    I can’t stand McGloin, but very well said.

  7. mhalt99 says: Jul 25, 2012 10:34 AM

    Michael Zordich later said…..ummm my dad played for the Philadelphia Eagles and is currently a coach there. I don’t think there is any way I could leave the university as Penn State is the land grant university of Pennsylvania and as a result of this, as well as its overall proximity to the city of Philadelphia, it would be extremely difficult for me to change universities outside of possibly Temple or Pitt. Furthermore, while I believe that I am an NFL prospect in my own right, if things do not go according to plan for ME, I believe I would get an opportunity with the Philadelphia Eagles, because of my father, whether it be as a camp body or as an entry level coaching position such as a quality control coordinator – Leaving Penn State now, for me, could take away this safety net as local fans who are Penn State alumni could pressure the Eagles to not take me as they see me as having left the university. This would be intensified as I am also a captain of the football team here.

    Of course, everyone should stay, like me, because they are in the exact same situation………….like our senior QB, who would have less than two months to learn an entirely new system….he will not leave either as it would make no sense for him to do so.

  8. steeler1nation says: Jul 25, 2012 10:35 AM

    How in the world is Larry Johnson, Sr. allowed to stay on staff? He was a PSU – Lifer…worked with Jerry every day for decades & knew him very well. Same with Tom Bradley — he knew Sandusky better than Paterno did. These two guys (Johnson, Bradley) BOTH knew. They HAD to have. Common sense & logic tells you that. Yet, Bradley has the gall to interview for the job & PSU retains Johnson. All part of the cover-up I guess. Diversionary tactics.Both of those cowards should be in jail for aiding & abetting.

  9. newlydead says: Jul 25, 2012 10:45 AM

    you forgot to mention in your “story” that Silas Redd was not at the player gathering this morning because he is en route to Chicago for B10 Media Days representing Penn State

    just though i’d help you out there.

    and as for those who say it’s not smart for those with NFL aspirations to stay at Penn State, why? i have to believe that pro scouts will look at all game tape on a player, not just ESPN highlights of a bowl game. are you telling me that if Redd put up 1700 yards this year at Penn State that the pro scouts are going to say “but yeah, what bowl game did you play in? thought so, we are not drafting you if you didn’t play in a bowl game”

    grow up

    i do agree with the Larry Johnson statement, how did he get to stay? it should be a clean house, no ties, that’s how it has to be.

  10. thraiderskin says: Jul 25, 2012 10:46 AM

    its commendable…

  11. phillyboy20 says: Jul 25, 2012 10:52 AM

    how does this effect players with NFL aspirations? PSU hasn’t played in a meaningful bowl game since 06. Do you think the NFL cares about how a kid played in the ticket city bowl? They’re looking at size, speed, strength and how you played against the top competition throughout the season.

  12. righton989 says: Jul 25, 2012 11:00 AM

    Don’t whine later when PSU doesn’t give you a paycheck because you didn’t play in a bowl game where the pro scouts could see you compete. Dupes.

  13. bigbuckeye76 says: Jul 25, 2012 11:19 AM

    Good for these guys….they still get to play football.

  14. paperlions says: Jul 25, 2012 11:31 AM

    If they want to call themselves STUDENT-athletes, they should stay….assuming they came for the education as much as for the athletics. There is nothing wrong with the academics at PSU, never have been.

  15. youcantmakemepickausername says: Jul 25, 2012 11:34 AM

    How in the world is Larry Johnson, Sr. allowed to stay on staff? He was a PSU – Lifer…worked with Jerry every day for decades & knew him very well.
    ————————————————–
    Uh, Johnson joined the staff in ’96, Sandusky left in ’99. I didn’t realize four years was “decades”. The question of why ANYONE

  16. youcantmakemepickausername says: Jul 25, 2012 11:39 AM

    last comment got cut off. was gonna say the question of why anyone that coached with Sandusky was chosen to stay on staff is legit, so you should be able to make a legit point without embellishing (or lying, take your pick).

  17. steeler1nation says: Jul 25, 2012 11:39 AM

    “Matt McGloin announces he will not transfer anywhere, and wiill stay at PSU!”
    *****
    whew! I bet Matt Barkley just breathed a sigh of relief with that news!

    #Capt.McMoxy_Erratic#

  18. thegamecocker says: Jul 25, 2012 11:42 AM

    While the NCAA handed down tough penalty, this program will continue to thrive and retain players. Why? Because they are still on television. The “hurt” would have been way more dramatic if the NCAA roulade have done that. How do you think USC west survived and thrived! Don’t get mr wrong, these penalties are the most ever.

  19. thegamecocker says: Jul 25, 2012 11:43 AM

    Would have done that. Edit correction

  20. steeler1nation says: Jul 25, 2012 11:45 AM

    McGroin: “…It is Nittany Lion family. I encourage all players, recruits, and supporters to stay committed to the greatest football program in America… ”

    yeah, buddy – the greatest….at covering up child rapes!

  21. ematusko says: Jul 25, 2012 11:47 AM

    @youcantmakemepickausername — You beat me to it.

    @steeler1nation — It’s sensational, lazy research/ASSumptions like that from mouth breathers like you that only add gasoline to the fire. Get your facts straight before spouting off incorrect nonsense.

    Lifelong PSU fan here, and anti-Paterno, so you might want to consider that before making what I’m certain will be a lousy, weak rebuttal.

  22. steeler1nation says: Jul 25, 2012 11:52 AM

    I speak the truth, ematusko….
    go pound sand & like it, you child rapist enabler supporter!

  23. newlydead says: Jul 25, 2012 11:57 AM

    @steeler1nation

    honest question here, what is your take on sexual assault?

  24. mountaineer50415 says: Jul 25, 2012 11:57 AM

    Seniors have been there for a couple bowls. They should be ok, if they are good enough. Do not see why they would leave at this late date.
    I just hope that freshman and sophmores are able to transfer if they want.

  25. dhlions says: Jul 25, 2012 11:59 AM

    If the logic is that these players are guilty by association, or are somehow lesser humans for sticking around, then as Americans (assuming mostly everyone on here is American) aren’t we all in the same boat as well?

    For better or worse our country is almost constantly engaged in some sort of warfare where atrocities are the norm. Now I don’t support all of that, but it doesn’t make me any less proud to be American. I’m not going to “quit the team” because the actions of few don’t represent the ideals of many.

    Not trying to spark a debate but give the kids a break. You don’t know what’s going through their heads and hearts right now.

  26. ematusko says: Jul 25, 2012 12:04 PM

    @steeler1nation – I stand corrected, very clever and eloquent. Have you considered a career in writing sketch comedy?

    Also, EVERYONE who knows me understands that I despise crimes against children more than anything in the world. I hope Sandusky dies a slow painful death, that the remaining conspirators (might want to look that word up) get convicted to the fullest and thrown in general population, and that Paterno’s name gets stripped from everything.

    I support the new direction the university is taking, the students, alumni, all sports teams and the state of Pennsylvania. How does this make me a “child rapist enabler supporter?” I’m curious to hear your response. I’m sure it’ll be a doozy.

  27. kiopta1 says: Jul 25, 2012 12:05 PM

    I wish nothing but the best for these young men. They are not the monster so they deserve all the freedom to choose their own path to succes.

  28. steeler1nation says: Jul 25, 2012 12:08 PM

    newlydead -
    castrate then kill the rapist

  29. newlydead says: Jul 25, 2012 12:24 PM

    @steeler1nation

    i agree hole heartily

    next question, whats your take on Ben Roethlisberger?

  30. psublueandwhite says: Jul 25, 2012 12:27 PM

    @steeler1nation, I see you are at it again. It’s ok for your teams QB to rape women, but I see you draw the line at kids. How commendable of you.

    Secondly, for those comments about the NFL – who wouldn’t want to play for a coach that just helped coach the Patriots to a super bowl appearance and coached one the winningest QB’s ever in NFL history; Tom Brady – even though he went to Michigan ;-)

    The quality of the coaching staff and the quality of the competition they are playing will be the same.

    I think this years team especially will surprise people. But I think in coming years it will be even more surprising to people how competitive they will be.

  31. ematusko says: Jul 25, 2012 12:29 PM

    @newlydead – here’s my take on what @steeler1nation’s (I call him Tarzan or Lenny – from ‘Of Mice and Men’ depending on my mood) response to you will be.

    “Ben plays for the Steelers, so the 2 rapes that he allegedly committed don’t count. Now, if Joe Flacco allegedly raped 2 girls then that’s a different story.”

  32. ebrownwareagle says: Jul 25, 2012 12:31 PM

    ABANDON SHIP! Players get out while you can and good luck.

  33. coolhorn says: Jul 25, 2012 12:41 PM

    I’d never criticize any player, anywhere, for showing loyalty. I know, as a Longhorn fan, that I value that quality in UT players.

    I might question whether it’s the best decision for a player to stay at Penn State, especially one with NFL-level talent. I might also say that it won’t surprise me if some of the players who say they’re staying now, change their minds as the full enormity of the penalties levied against Penn State sink in.

    Still…loyalty is a quality in very short supply these days, and those players showing loyalty to the Nits right now shouldn’t be criticized. It is, after all, their decision to make.

  34. psuravens19 says: Jul 25, 2012 12:44 PM

    Of course players are going to be leaving PSU for a chance to play in the postseason… but I also agree that NFL Scouts will continue to look at these players for their respective teams. Not only do they look for size, speed and skills, but NFL Teams also look for Integrity in the players they will draft and for the one’s that do stay are showing a lot of Integrity to O’Brien, the school and their committment.

  35. ematusko says: Jul 25, 2012 12:58 PM

    Tarzan? Lenny? steeler1nation? Where ya at, cap?!?! I’m waiting! You’ve had some insults thrown your way and a very logical question pertaining to your QB. You’re nowhere to be found. I guess that ‘decade’ of highschool didn’t instill any logic or accountability in that scrawny brain of yours. Color me astonished.

  36. houndofthebaskervols says: Jul 25, 2012 1:08 PM

    To the morons that are operating under the delusion that staying and playing for Penn State is the equivalent of sacrificing any future NFL prospects, ARE YOU INSANE?

    The NFL first of all doesn’t care about bowl games, and second of all the NFL goes where the talent is. Look at the draft board, Montana had 2 guys taken this year, and Utah State had 3 guys drafted fer cryin out loud!

    Correct me if I’m wrong but the NFL hasn’t boycotted Penn State, and they aren’t likely too either. Now give me a thumbs down and call me a pedophile enabler. Idiots!

  37. jp4120 says: Jul 25, 2012 1:19 PM

    big deal,
    bunch of medium talent players want to stay up in unhappy valley so they can chant We Are! and hang out with pedophile apologists like Jay Paterno and Franco Harris.

    We Are?
    ‘Gonna suck for about 8 years’

  38. 700levelvet says: Jul 25, 2012 1:22 PM

    mhalt99 says….
    Given penn states “overall proximity to philadelphia”……Are you serious?…….Do you own a GPS, or better yet are you old enough to drive? proximity?…..seriously? Have you asctually looked up the definiton of the word?

  39. Deb says: Jul 25, 2012 1:28 PM

    @psublueandwhite …

    Roethlisberger was never arrested and police in both jurisdictions said there was no evidence any crime had occurred. That’s because the woman in Nevada texted friends she couldn’t wait to see him again. And the woman in Georgia’s medical exam showed she hadn’t had sex with anyone that evening. Roethlisberger may be an idiot, but he’s not a rapist–and he’s one of a dozen players hit with false claims in money grabs. Not exactly the same as multiple counts of child rape and more than a decade of institutional cover-up.

    And even if the accusations against Roethlisberger were true, one bad deed doesn’t cancel out another.

  40. ematusko says: Jul 25, 2012 1:31 PM

    @Deb – I think the aim was to show the hypocrisy of steeler1nation’s overwhelmingly stupid comments.

  41. Deb says: Jul 25, 2012 1:31 PM

    @ematusko …

    I’m not one of the boys, but hope I answered your question. Now maybe you kids can stay on topic.

    As for the players’ statement, it was admirable. However, I take issue that “This team has taken on more adversity than any team has faced in history.” Perhaps someone should remind them about Marshall.

  42. Deb says: Jul 25, 2012 1:32 PM

    @ematusko …

    You jumped in before my post to you. LOL

    Actually, I haven’t been reading his comments.

  43. ematusko says: Jul 25, 2012 1:39 PM

    @Deb – Disagree, grew up in Pgh, and know people who met Ben around town, and played with with him @ Miami OH. They said he was a scuzz through and through. Sandusky and the cover up artists are worse people, by far, but Ben is not without his faults.

    I do agree with you re: Marshall. Having said that, these are 19-22 year-old kids, and I think they handled this statement extremely well, all things considered.

  44. Deb says: Jul 25, 2012 1:47 PM

    @ematusko …

    Love my Steelers, but think Ben’s a jackass who treats people like dirt–and I’m cynical about how much he’s changed. But I’ve studied the cases thoroughly and know someone who worked the Georgia case. The authorities there are confident in the outcome. Rapist, no.

    You played with him at Miami? Was he an egomaniac then, too? I’m thrilled with the Haley hire because I’m hoping he can rein him in. Arians was such a lapdog. He’s super talented but his ego is a huge liability.

    You’re right on the statement–and you wouldn’t expect kids to think of Marshall before issuing their statement (although it was probably vetted by the university). But whatever adversity any team endures, I always think of Marshall. It could be worse.

  45. mhalt99 says: Jul 25, 2012 2:06 PM

    700levelvet says:
    mhalt99 says….
    Given penn states “overall proximity to philadelphia”……Are you serious?…….Do you own a GPS, or better yet are you old enough to drive? proximity?…..seriously? Have you asctually looked up the definiton of the word?

    about of 4 hour drive, depending on traffic and what part of philly you are coming from. If you leave center city around rush hour it will take more time. i do not see a 4 hour trip to see a game as that far as there are only so many home games per year. also, as penn state is in virtually the middle of nowhere with thousands of students who eventually need to work, you will find large concentrations of psu alums in cities such as Pitts, Scranton, Wilkes Barre, Harrisburg (less as muni bankruptcy) and one of the largest cities in PA, Philadelphia. as there are many satellite campuses you that feed psu you will find alum concentrations in these areas as well.

    lastly and most importantly, as a land grant instution/state university you will find large concentrations of psu alumni in any PA city just as you would find large concentrations of Texas alumni from 8-12 hour drives away as there is a reduced tuition to attend.

    so I guess I have to ask you, are you serious? do you know the definition of overall proximity? do you understand how the state university system works? have you ever left philadelphia? do you realize some people have to commute 2-3 hours just to get to work?

    i do give you partial credit in that – happy valley is a greater distance from philadelphia than pats is from genos.

  46. eyeh8goodell says: Jul 25, 2012 2:22 PM

    Well where are they gonna go if they’re upper classmen? At this point they’d be stupid to walk away from a starting position and go to another program with no guarantee of playing time. Anybody who has ever played football knows that there is very much a pecking order that is defined over time, coaches play favorites, and there are politics.

    As for McGloin………he can play the hero/martyr card but unless he transfers to a Div II school he isn’t going anywhere else with any kind of chance at starting.

  47. ccshocktalk says: Jul 25, 2012 4:13 PM

    At the end of the day people play sports to leave legacies. Student athletes at smaller schools have to wait to play in a bowl game to get the national media attention players at Penn State get week in and week out. The fact they wont be able to be in a bowl game for 4 years, and wont be in the Big 10 Championship for 4 years is a big blow to the school, but lets be real, it doesn’t stop the players from getting their shot at playing in the NFL.

    Last time I checked they still play the same schools, and their schedule wont change. If anything those who decide to stay will prove that they will use the adversity to build character. Those who run away to another program wont be thought a coward, but more will certainly be thought of those that stay and decide to play. No matter if it’s a freshman commitment or a senior playing out their last year, the ones who decide to stay will have a legacy at Penn State like no other. Who wouldn’t want to be on the squad that gave the NCAA a big eff you and went out there and played their @sses off week in and week out.
    The fans and students aren’t going to dump on the football team, and Its nice seeing that core of guys not dumping on the fans and the school.

  48. billobrienschindimple says: Jul 25, 2012 4:15 PM

    steeler1nation you are the epitome of a misinformed individual.

    Larry Johnson is not a PSU lifer, and only had a 3 year overlap while Sandusky was there.

    It scares me that people like you who invent these realities in your head are allowed to make decisions regarding the future of our country.

  49. thetooloftools says: Jul 25, 2012 4:19 PM

    Attention Penn State football players, “Welcome to The Titanic”. You are nuts if you don’t get out of there as soon as possible. Notice how Zordich and Mauti have deep family ties to Penn State? I get it. If you think the situation is going to get better because 108,000 worshippers gather at Beaver Stadium on fall Saturdays you have lost your minds. Tim Curly still needs to have a trial. Gary Shultz needs to have a trial. Graham Spanier may be charged and he’ll need a trial. They are LYING to you if they tell you they are “Moving On” because all this horrible negtive media coverage is going to be in the news for the next several years. They still have an open Grand Jury investigation going on now. What other shoes are going to drop? Unless I had deep ties to the school, I would be outta there. It’s a business. It’s a business that was so valuable and profitable that the top leaders of not only the football team, but the school allowed children to continually be molested on it’s campus to keep that investment rolling along. THOSE ARE FACTS. That not a school I want anything to do with even if they are all gone. Why should you pay for thier sins?
    Let them carry their own water.

  50. mungman69 says: Jul 25, 2012 4:23 PM

    Most of these guys couldn’t play anywhere else. Penn St wasn’t going anywhere anyway. They might as well stay home and get a degree.

  51. finfan87 says: Jul 25, 2012 5:22 PM

    The statement by the players staying shows what PSU is really about for all the thousands of people that have connections to a school, and will hopefully help to show that a couple of corrupt people can’t bring down a whole lot of good all by themselves.

    Sure, some of these players might get opportunities to win important games at other schools, but then they won’t be receiving a PSU education. A PSU education that is in the top 100 for schools in the world, at a school where football players, regardless of race, have thrived in terms of academics.

    And for those saying this hurts players that might have a shot in the NFL if they go to another school…do you really think this would make a difference to a scout? Scouts will still go to PSU games. If anything, if a player is able to make it through these muddy waters, it shows tremendous amounts of character to be able to persevere through all of this adversity. And lets face it, bowl games or not, the national spotlight will be thrust on PSU football games for the next couple of years.

    Football isn’t and shouldn’t be everything to young adults at a school, even though it was for a few grown men. The education that they receive, as well as the bonds and friendships they have made, are clearly important to these guys. I’ll admit that I’m a PSU fan and alum, but I wasn’t a fan of the team when I applied to the school years ago. If anything, I applied to PSU grudgingly, due to not liking their team/college football. It was everything else about the university that got me to take pride in its sports teams.

  52. dannythebisforbeast says: Jul 25, 2012 7:52 PM

    @deb. big Ben not without faults?

    Maybe one night when your out and he walks in the bathroom behind you and puts his manhood in your face maybe you will feel differently.

    It’s funny since your a steeler fan you can rationalize his scumbag behavior

    When penn state people defend their university. Their scumbags

    He was never convicted but outside Pitt he’s convicted in court of public opinion
    Same as someone else I know.

  53. ermur22 says: Jul 25, 2012 11:53 PM

    Why would anyone say they are PROUD to be @ PSU….the whole world is disgusted by your p.o.s. university…they shouldn’t even be allowed to have a football program…u should be embarrassed!

  54. Deb says: Jul 26, 2012 12:20 AM

    @dannythebisisforbeast …

    Big Ben not without faults?

    Right, that’s exactly what I said. That’s how any rational person would interpret my comments that he’s an idiot, an egomaniac, and a jackass who treats people like dirt. Yes, all thinking people like you would translate that to mean I’m saying he’s without faults. :roll:

    Baby, I don’t care what the court of public opinion has decided on Roethlisberger or Penn State. The evidence shows that the jackass idiot had a one-niter with a woman who texted her buddies she couldn’t wait to do it again, then a year later sued him for $3 million for rape. The evidence shows Georgia didn’t have sex with anyone. The evidence in State College shows a pedophile ran amok for more than a decade while university officials left him to his own devices. It’s not about Steeler homerism or PSU homerism. It is what it is.

    And if it makes you happy, I’ve been raped. And I wasn’t wearing a pin advertising myself as “down to f*ck” at the time. That’s why I take the subject seriously and do my fact-checking. And it’s why I wouldn’t rationalize for a rapist no matter where he played.

    Idiot.

  55. norcalirish says: Jul 26, 2012 4:36 AM

    Good for them—loyalty against all odds is a rare trait these days. Their fans are still garbage tho.

  56. 1historian says: Jul 26, 2012 6:29 AM

    Good for them. It takes guts to stand up like that.

    It DOESN’T take guts to send hate messages and thundering judgments from out in the safety and anonymity of cyberspace.

    Suggestion – just be quiet for a whjile and pray for

  57. 1historian says: Jul 26, 2012 6:30 AM

    EVERYONE who has been caught in this. The kids, the school, the players, Paterno, and Sandusky too, because he sure does need your prayers.

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