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Current Trojan would give up scholarship to make room for Redd

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Exactly one week after NCAA sanctions against Penn State were announced and his name was first connected to USC, current Nittany Lions running back Silas Redd is expected to make a decision in short order as to his football future.

If as all the signs seem to indicate that he will head out west to continue his playing career, one current Trojans player would (grudgingly) take one for the team and make room for the talented back.

While not identified by the Orange County Register, the unnamed player told the paper that, if asked by the coaching staff, he would give up his scholarship in order to provide room on USC’s roster for Redd.  Because of its own NCAA sanctions, the Trojans are limited to 75 scholarship players this season; the Register writes that, based on its tally, the Trojans are right at that 75-man limit and would need to create roster space to add Redd.

The player, a former walk-on, used words like “heartbroken” to describe having to give up the scholarship he earned, but would understand if it comes to that.

The player said he would be “heartbroken” if it came to that because he had worked so hard to earn the scholarship. However, when the player initially received it, Kiffin explained that it was a year-to-year deal and that the player might have to give it back if USC’s roster limitations left no other recourse.

Although losing his scholarship would be a source of frustration, the player said he would remain with the squad. “I love this team,” he said.

The player said he understood the current situation regarding Redd and how his addition would improve the team’s chances to win the national championship. While hopeful of keeping his scholarship, the player would be willing to sacrifice it if absolutely necessary. I found his team-first approach to a potentially unpleasant situation admirable.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported earlier today that a decision from Redd is expected Monday.  However, Redd’s hometown newspaper, the Hartford Hour, reports that no decision is expected until Tuesday at the earliest.  Redd is currently headed back to the East Coast and will spend the day Tuesday talking over his decision with family and friends.

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  1. iloveflorio says: Jul 30, 2012 3:01 PM

    Is there a bigger slimeball in sports than lane kiffin? Allow me to answer no, wait this just in, kiffin has first decent year as a head coach last year and is now reportedly leaving USC for the Japanese douchebag league, he will make 9 Billion dollars next year, sources with info on the subject report

  2. BrownsTown says: Jul 30, 2012 3:02 PM

    Klassy Kiffin strikes again. Treat young adults like race horses.

  3. mydixienormus says: Jul 30, 2012 3:13 PM

    And yet USC continues to sign 5-star player after 5-star player. Makes me sick.

    Karma will visit Mr. Kiffin soon enough…

  4. rsmeans says: Jul 30, 2012 3:23 PM

    USC has always been short on integrity and long on cheating.

  5. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 3:29 PM

    Most hate-filled and jealous comments I’ve ever seen (above). And that is awesome!!! Sometimes leaders have to make tough choices for the betterment of their squad. Kiffin will do this. Blame Reggie Bush for putting Kiffin in this position. Kiffin expressed interest in Silas Redd. In the end, it is Redd’s choice to come to SC or stay at Penn State, or go somewhere else. Kiffin can’t “steal” Redd.

    And in no way is USC cheating here. The player offered to give up his scholarship.

    I do see your frustration, though. USC is top dog again and who isn’t envious of the best?

  6. silverdeer says: Jul 30, 2012 3:35 PM

    On a side note. Reggie’s house is no longer being used but will be soon.

  7. mydixienormus says: Jul 30, 2012 3:42 PM

    Enjoy it while it lasts.

    USC’s scholorship reductions will really start to bite this year and for the following 2-years.

    Wait till mid-season next year when they are starting walk-ons.

    No doubt USC will do well enough, but the reductions will keep them from the top over the next 3-years.

    Mark it.

  8. kiopta1 says: Jul 30, 2012 3:42 PM

    That does seem very shady or should I say Very kiffin. If bad for the young man that earned that schol.

  9. thekatman says: Jul 30, 2012 3:45 PM

    Hey there haters…. jealousy’s a bitch, ain’t it?

    For those folks who haven’t done their homework and just spew out hateful filth, Redd is no stranger to USC players and Kiffin. CLK recruited Silas back in 2009 while at Tennessee, and Silas played football with one of the USC backup QB’s Max Wittek, when Wittek lived in CT. They have remained friend and in touch since they were in the 8th grade.

    As far as the comment of calling Kiffin a horse trader…. if that’s how you feel about sports coaches, then why do you ollow sports of any kind? All coaches are looking to recruit the best players for their teams. IF you don’;t like that , you should consider playing bridge. Oh wait, bridge playing players also recruit a team member…… Hmmmm.

  10. lovinthatsomanyhateonnd says: Jul 30, 2012 3:49 PM

    lol gotta love the irony..because one team is being punished, another that cheated gets to benefit…

  11. drarb says: Jul 30, 2012 3:49 PM

    Those of you who think that Kiffin didn’t put pressure of the USC player – I have some property for sale. This looks and feels sleazy beyond belief. I can hear it now – we have hostesses to help console you, you will be able to still work out with the team and have all teh benefits, you just have to pay your way. Oh wait we will find a low interest loan to support you.

    And the ncaa wanted to control football culture – Emmert probably can’t control his bowels let alone the ncaa controlling football culture.

  12. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 3:50 PM


    That’s what they said about USC last year. Look, of course the egregious scholarship reductions aren’t going to help USC, but so far they are doing a great job. I think USC’s entire philosophy has changed for the better with Haden and Kiffin. They aren’t just going for the best talent, but talent + intelligence. Walk-ons aren’t the worst thing in the world. Clay Matthews was a walk-on and didn’t even start for USC. Although, he’s probably a one in a million type. It’s probably not going to be all out dominance like it was during the Carroll and Mckay days, but USC will still be very good. I just enjoy the people with sour grapes above. The obvious jealousy and sourness reminds me of Cleveland owner Dan Gilbert and other fans when LeBron left for Miami. All of a sudden, they thought LeBron wasn’t very good and all he did was go to consecutive NBA Finals, winning one….so far

  13. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 3:52 PM


    You should ACTUALLY read the 67 page NCAA report on USC. USC didn’t cheat. Reggie Bush did and USC “should’ve known” what he was doing 100+ miles from USC’s campus. Those are the FACTS the NCAA has verified.

  14. BrownsTown says: Jul 30, 2012 3:53 PM

    Right, thekatman. Remember when guaranteed (4 year) scholarships was the big trend last spring? Most of CFB is moving away from treating CFB players like disposable pieces and parts. Of course, most of CFB also wouldn’t pimp out college girls in the recruiting process either, so………

    The tab for winning at all costs eventually comes due. I’m surprised that I would need to tell that to an SC fan so soon.

  15. mydixienormus says: Jul 30, 2012 3:53 PM

    This is the first year of scholorship reductions for USC, right?

    As far as I know, they pushed them back via the appeal process. Then Lane oversigned like crazy. Worked the system for sure, but legal.

  16. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 3:57 PM

    It really does suck for non-USC fans. It really isn’t fair to have a school in sunny Los Angeles. It really isn’t fair to have a school with so many beautiful women. It really isn’t fair for a school to be ranked in the Top 25 academically while also having dominant sports program, especially a football program. But USC does, and that’s the way it is. Don’t expect us to be sorry for being awesome.

  17. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 4:03 PM


    Our 2012 recruiting class is already signed. They are the first class of 3 in which schollies are reduced. 2013 class, which is blowing everyone out of the water, is only verbal commits. Of course, any or all of the 2013 class can change their mind (De’Anthony Thomas) and go somwhere else. It might happen. Maybe some of the 2013 recruits have verbally chosen USC just to secure their spot on USC’s limited list, only as a safeguard for perhaps another school they are looking at. Who knows. From what I have heard and read, there are many guys on the 2013 class that are doing their own recruiting for USC while also really trying to bond and unite the class. Our 2014 class will be the last class affected by scholarship reductions.

  18. psunick says: Jul 30, 2012 4:10 PM

    If I were Bill O’Brien, I’d be setting up a lunch date with Mr. Kiffin ASAP.

  19. mhalt99 says: Jul 30, 2012 4:19 PM

    it’s ok, the kid will still receive his portion of the ESPN bowl money as will every other college football player who plays on tv…………..wait what? none of them get paid??????

    kinda funny listening to the degree of scumbags we are dealing with when we deal with revenue generating college athletics. gonna be a good lawsuit someday……

    sorry for the kid to lose the scholarship he deserved.

    #1 Thank you Captain doushe Paul Dee……I wish you were the biggest scumbag in the history of sports, unfortunately for humanity a place called Penn State and Paterd-O have you beat.

    #2 If he is from an insanely rich family – thanks for having some class kid – wish more were like you. Either way good luck this season.

  20. mhalt99 says: Jul 30, 2012 4:21 PM

    oh……and what kind of BEAST walks on to a scholarship reduced program, that has the type of top recruiting classes that USC has had…..and somehow earns a scholarship?????????

    Name an award after him!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. thekatman says: Jul 30, 2012 4:21 PM

    Why should Kiffin listen to O’Brien? The poor dude’s got himself in a jam and has to coach a football team that cannot play in any post season games for 4 years. The recruiting problems are going to be very tough indeed. PSU should just shut the program down for 2 years and rebuild from scratch, because that will have a lessened impact on the program in the long term than trying to keep the Titanic afloat. BUt then again, perhaps PSU’s reputatin as a CFB powerhouse with a double digit CFB championships and a rep for placing tons of guys into the NFL will keep the program winning games. Oh yeah, not gonna happen. Only USC can do that.

  22. lovinthatsomanyhateonnd says: Jul 30, 2012 4:39 PM

    papabush, i have read it in its entirety when it came out…The thing that stood out the most, and gives me reason to call them cheaters, is how did the school, coaches, etc, NOT know when one day he came in driving a different vehicle (from a beat up ranger to a pimped out 96 Impala on wheels and a system)?? You can say whatever, but they obviously arent blind and rather chose to ignore it..

  23. billmead1976 says: Jul 30, 2012 4:41 PM

    You haters are like all the deadbeats that reneged on your mortgage and aided the housing burst.

    What part of full disclosure is missing in:

    “However, when the player initially received it, Kiffin explained that it was a year-to-year deal and that the player might have to give it back if USC’s roster limitations left no other recourse.”

    The guy is a walk-on to one of the most storied programs in the country – five and four starred studs everywhere. Worked hard and got his tuition taken care of for a year. Good for him. He’s already $40-50k in tuition better off than he was before.

  24. overratedgators says: Jul 30, 2012 4:41 PM

    mhalt99 says:
    Jul 30, 2012 4:19 PM
    it’s ok, the kid will still receive his portion of the ESPN bowl money as will every other college football player who plays on tv…………..wait what? none of them get paid??????


    Don’t be silly. It’s U$C. OF COURSE they get paid.

  25. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 4:50 PM


    Is that really what stood out to you most? I have no problem with that. Completely nit picky. This isn’t the NFL. Players don’t drive their own cars to the practice field. It’s right on campus. You walk to it, or ride your bike to it. You can’t really drive to the practice field. At least, you can’t park your car near the field where others can see it. Only faculty members and those with special passes can park on campus. Players either walk to practice or take athletic program golf carts to practice. As an alum, I am very familiar with USC’s campus, where the players practice and all other related things.
    Look at the penalties USC got for not knowing. It is pretty clear that they were gunning for USC. So, why can’t they prove USC knew what Reggie was doing? Because they didn’t know. Those are the facts the NCAA has given us. You may not like them, but that’s what we have. There’s also a lot of talk from uninformed people that USC was not cooperative with the NCAA, and that is the reason for the severity of their punishment. Also, not true. It states directly in the report that USC was fully cooperative with the investigation. I can show you, if need be, the direct quote.

  26. jh4prez says: Jul 30, 2012 5:11 PM

    Stay Silas and become a legend.leave and be just another number.the first round is yours either way.there is no better back in the ncaa.

  27. thekatman says: Jul 30, 2012 5:20 PM

    @pappabush88: why are you even dealing with these lame brain fans? Obviously, they are not educated or informed about the NCAA’s case against USC. Most people will do anything and believe anything that is negative against their enemy no matter truth. Try talking to a liberal about why Obama cannot have a 2nd term. All they do is slam the opposition without providing a credible dialog about what they believe it. Folks opposed to USC do the same thing. You cannot reason with them and you cannot show them the verbiage from the docs. They live their life with blinders on and do not make decisions for themselves nor do the necessary research to substantiate their opinion about anything….. They’re just sports blog lemmings.

  28. smadison29 says: Jul 30, 2012 5:21 PM

    Scholarships are not a right they are earned. This kid was told when he got it that they may have to take it back later to better the team. USC didn’t have to give him the scholarship at all & just hold onto it. Scholarships are a year to year contract. Every year every school tells some kids their scholarship will not be renewed. Whether by citing some previous transgression as a reason or not but it happens all the time. You just don’t hear about it too often unless it’s your team or an extreme circumstance like this.

  29. thekatman says: Jul 30, 2012 5:22 PM

    Who said Reggie had a pimped out 1998 Impala while a student at USC? That automobile was pimped out after the football season was over and he had already declared for the draft. Read the documents people.

  30. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 5:25 PM


    Could 2012 be the year USC wins a NC and Obama loses his reelection bid? That would be nice.

  31. mhalt99 says: Jul 30, 2012 5:41 PM


    As per my initial comments, I have a bit of a problem with kids or workers being exploited while a few people make millions, if not billions off of their blood sweat and tears, while they get a piece of paper that outside of an engineering degree has become extremely devalued over the last 50 or so years.

    Your statement:

    “Scholarships are not a right they are earned. This kid was told when he got it that they may have to take it back later to better the team. USC didn’t have to give him the scholarship at all & just hold onto it. Scholarships are a year to year contract.”

    Would you agree that it is unfair for the university and the NCAA to prevent the “student athlete” from transferring without penalty? What if UCLA wanted him to start this year? What if they had a ride for him? What if Cal or Stanford saw his play and his grades and wanted him to be an actual student and athlete at the university?

    There are many problems with the current system, the lowest fruit is how walk ons and guys who have their scholarship pulled or have half scholarships are treated.

  32. thekatman says: Jul 30, 2012 5:47 PM

    @papabush88 I’m anticipating 2012 to finish up in this order:
    1. Obama loses his reelection bid in November.
    2. USC beats Oregon in The Coliseum on 11/3.
    3. USC , as the winner of the South Division beats Oregon, the winner of the North Division by 28 points, in The Coliseum for the 2012 Pac-12 Championship Game.
    4. USC goes to the BcS Championship Game and beats out the opponent 52-19 in Miami, again.
    5. Gov. Mitt Romney is sworn in as President of the United States.
    5. Michelle and Barack Obama pack their belongings, and only their belongings…. no White House chatzskies or memorabilia, and get the heck out of our White House.
    7. President Romney starts the economic restart this country so desperately needs, and then works to nullify every single anti-American treaty, legislation and presidential order/directive Obama has singed, and to bring America back to the United States.
    7. The Senate dominated by Republicans starts to actually do some much needed work for the American people, unlike what has happened for the past 6 years under Democrat leadership.
    8. Pelosi and Reid are gone.
    have passed, to bring America back to the United States.

    Didn’t mean to mix football with politics, but it is a bit similar.

  33. ningenito78 says: Jul 30, 2012 5:48 PM

    I would tell Kiffin to go hug nuts. They are the number 1 team in preseason. I wouldn’t give up my scholarship to make the extremely rich even richer. Do your job Lane and make sure you have enough RBs on the roster that don’t have rocks in their head next time.

  34. thekatman says: Jul 30, 2012 5:51 PM

    Per ESPN’s Joe Shad:
    Penn State star running back Silas Redd is strongly leaning toward transferring to USC, sources told ESPN’s Joe Schad.

    Redd left Los Angeles on Monday after spending lots of time with Trojans quarterback Matt Barkley and wide receiver Robert Woods over the weekend, according to the sources.

    Penn State’s leading rusher last season, Redd likely will meet in person with Nittany Lions coach Bill O’Brien, the sources said.

    The NCAA has said players can transfer from Penn State and be eligible immediately… Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal…

    Redd, who has two years of eligibility remaining, ran for 1,241 yards and seven touchdowns last season.

    Redd will sit down with his family Monday night to discuss a potential transfer and could announce his decision as early as Tuesday afternoon, two sources close to Redd told’s Josh Moyer.

    “They want to go home and then sit down as a family and discuss the pros and cons of both,” one source told Moyer.

  35. ningenito78 says: Jul 30, 2012 5:51 PM

    Smadison29- you couldn’t miss the point by more if you were blind.

  36. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 5:52 PM


    I think most polls have USC at No. 2. Add in the fact that we will probably be losing (will know within the week) our starting DE to a pectoral muscle tear, USC needs all the help it can get. As long as Kiffin works within the rules, I don’t see why anyone has a problem with it.

  37. ningenito78 says: Jul 30, 2012 5:57 PM

    Papabush- I’m pretty sure nobody cares about the opinion of a homer USC fan. I would expect your response to be nothing else. And if Romney gets voted into the White House I’ll eat my thumbs. I can’t stand Obama but that idiot is as bad as the clown John Kerry had of beating Bush.

  38. richdaddy2377 says: Jul 30, 2012 5:58 PM

    @papabush88 and all USC fans

    How soon you people forget that your boy Kiffin was an associate coach when Bush was there, so yes he was dirty and helped put you in this situation.

    And the key is it is a year to year scholarship not a year to 1 month scholarship, this kid has worked his butt off more than I can say for most of these kids, and this cheating d-bag has the audacity to say sorry we want your scholarship.

    Also do not forget, which you do not want anyone to remember, that Kiffin used Hookers to recruit kids at Tennessee, and said ” well it was not in the rule book so I figured what the heck.

    He is lucky he has a job.

  39. jesse1834 says: Jul 30, 2012 6:00 PM

    Lame Quitten’

  40. omniusprime says: Jul 30, 2012 6:19 PM

    @thekatman – man what a racist jerk you are, a pity that you’re a fellow USC fan, you sound more like SEC trash to me. Cry in your beer election night as Obama retains his residency at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Besides moron boy even if Obama lost he wouldn’t be moving out until the 20th of January, 2013. Accusing him of possibly taking things that don’t belong to him is as racist as it gets little dirtbag! So how much do you steal from us taxpayers cheating on your taxes? May the IRS come to audit you real soon.

  41. omniusprime says: Jul 30, 2012 6:21 PM

    A real shame we didn’t get to learn the name of this player who will take one for the team. I certainly hope that USC does something to help him out scholarship wise outside of athletics to reward him for putting team ahead of self. This is so unlike the normal self serving athletes who only think of themselves and how much they can take from the system. I’m looking forward to seeing Silas in Trojan Redd.

  42. lilrock9 says: Jul 30, 2012 6:32 PM

    Fight on!!!!!!!! LFK!!!!!!!!! O’yeah happy belated Coach O………….

  43. thekatman says: Jul 30, 2012 6:32 PM

    @omniusprime You are the exact example of what I said about liberals who do not know how to discuss issues. All you want to do is name call and show your lack of intellect and narrative. I’ll stand and call you.

  44. lilrock9 says: Jul 30, 2012 6:35 PM

    What situation? #1 team in the country #1 recruiting class #LifeIsGood

  45. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 6:44 PM


    How did Kiffin help put us in this position? Please find one part of the NCAA’s 67 page report where Kiffin played a role in Reggie receiving improper benefits from the non-USC affiliated agent, Michael Ornstein.

    How do you know how hard the kid (who is offering his scholarship to Redd) worked his butt off? They didn’t even mention the name of the player.

  46. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 6:45 PM


    How is what thekatman said racist? I didn’t see a single racial slur in what he wrote. Or do you automatically link black people to stealing? I think that makes you racist, or someone just looking for trouble.

  47. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 6:46 PM


    That was cute. Why don’t you let mommy and daddy talk now

  48. lovinthatsomanyhateonnd says: Jul 30, 2012 6:47 PM

    thekatman: lol do you take drugs to be that delusional, or does it just come naturally? First, USC will NOT win the title. Second, your boy Cayman Island, Job deporting Mitt the Sh$# will not win the election, but rather lose in a landslide the likes that hasnt been seen in decades. And the only thing the GOP will ever fix are laws that benefit their pockets, or the corporate lobbyists that control them. And if you care to take this debate further, count how many economic bills that Obama proposed that would have created jobs that your hero Republicons (yes, i spelled it that way for a reason) made a point to shut down merely to make him look bad. Oh, dont worry, i have plenty more where that came, back to the topic….

    papabush, sorry, your team cheated, got caught (even if the NCAA dragged its feet so Carroll could leave for the NFL first), and now the consequences are in place. Dont like it? THEN DONT CHEAT! END of story….
    Lastly, nice to know some kid busts his butt for Lane, only to be shoved aside…sure its not a rarity, but its still doing that kid dirty as heck after the loyalty he showed your school…which is all about wins and money..integrity is an afterthought.

  49. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 7:06 PM


    That was the saddest thing I’ve ever read. I have issues with Romney, but Obama doesn’t know ANYTHING about economics. This is the one place Romney outshines every candidate. Otherwise, I’d vote Libertarian. Having said that, you really shouldn’t be counting on politicians to save individuals. They won’t do much for you. Depend on yourself. If you really want to talk politics, look up the Bilderberg Group.

    My team did NOT cheat. Reggie Bush did. Again, you don’t seem to read very well. I don’t understand how you don’t get that. How is it cheating when one member of your program is doing it without you knowing? Reggie Bush did a bad thing. No one is arguing against that. It was illegal, even if you think the NCAA’s rules are stupid and outdated. But the NCAA concluded that USC did not cheat.

    The kid who offered his scholarship has remained anonymous. How do you know how much he’s been busting his butt? Do you know who he is? How can you blame Kiffin for this kid voluntarily offering his scholarship? Do you blame the military when someone voluntarily joins the army?

  50. richdaddy2377 says: Jul 30, 2012 7:42 PM


    The reason I know he worked his butt off is because to stay on the team as a walk-on you have to work your butt off other wise he would not be on the team.

    Second just because he was not mentioned does not mean he did not know what was going on, I actually know a guy who played for USC back in the 50’s and they were receiving benefits they should not have even back then, according to him.

    But your under the misunderstanding that USC did not know, yeah and Michigan did not know about Ed Martin and OSU did not know about the tatoo parlor.

    Listen I am a college football fan but get your head out of the clouds man, and realize the facts they were dirty they got caught and they paid the price, blaming everything on Bush is insane. Not only if they did not know, they should have known. Because it is there job to know. They got hit with lack of institutional control just like OSU, they were dirty, Thats why your boy Carrol left for the NFL when he knows he cannot coach those players, he knew the whole coaching staff knew. But they did the crime and are know almost done paying the time, but No Bush is not the only one to blame thats just crazy.

  51. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 7:52 PM


    I want to hear more about your investigation of the Reggie Bush scandal. You seem to know more than the NCAA does because they told us that no one else knew. The floor is yours. Show us the evidence.

  52. soundsofsuccess7 says: Jul 30, 2012 7:55 PM

    Comical how much some love to hate USC and Lane, especially.

    I would say something in this fued but as the USC haters do not even actually know what they are arguing about, it isn’t really worth anyone’s time..

    Silas will join SC, as speculated, and some 6th string special team walk on will lose their scholarship, something they were not guaranteed when they selected to attend USC. Kiffin’s players love him, he does an excellent job at mixing opposite personas of being a players’ coach while still taking any opportunity to improve his football team.

    Expect to see multiple national championships won by him in the next few years, and even more after. He’s not even forty, yet, he could be one of the winningest coaches ever in the end.

  53. papabush88 says: Jul 30, 2012 7:56 PM

    By the way, to all Trojans fan and Trojans haters:

    Clement Lefert just won gold at the Olympics. His gold medal continues a 100 year streak of gold medals won by USC…the most of any school (also puts USC at 8th all time if we were our own country).

  54. 73trojan says: Jul 30, 2012 9:06 PM

    The comments here are just unbelievable. Kiffin has done nothing wrong and instead has done a BRILLIANT job of dealing with the ridiculous sanctions the ncaa scumbags, lead by the king douchebag, Paul Dee did to us without reason or justification.

    USC did nothing to cheat with regard to Reggie Bush or otherwise. The ncaa hammered us because they are a bunch of jealous imbeciles and unfortunately Garrett stated so publicly. They hammered us because they couldn’t stand or understand USC’s success so they figured something had to be wrong and didn’t like that we wouldn’t kiss their wrinkled old butts.

    But, there was nothing illegal in how Bush was recruited or during his stay at SC that was done by SC. He and/or his parents allegedly received a rent free condo primarily, from a convicted felon and upon that felon’s word the ncaa hung us. What did SC do wrong, not a damn thing. The school had ABSOLUTELY no involvment in this. NONE, ZERO!

    Beyond that, hate away all you want. The possibility is quite real that the Trojans will win the 2012 BCS championship. The 2012 incoming class is amazing and the 2013 class is simply insane, ALL 4 and 5 star recruits.

    The ncaa sanctions will have little to no effect, in fact it has just caused the Trojan Family to step up all efforts!

    Across the board for all sports, USC is at the top.
    Top 25 academically.
    Living the life in LA.
    (and no one cares who you are. Get used to it)

    Fight on!!!!

  55. dannythebisforbeast says: Jul 30, 2012 9:17 PM

    USC fans sound a lot like penguin fans weird.

  56. 1trojanlove says: Jul 30, 2012 9:50 PM

    Why can’t we all just get along! It’s amazing that fans just can’t cheer on there own team, they have to hate on others! I guess that’s what happens when your team is not on top anymore, let the bashing begin… Fight On Trojan Nation!!!

  57. kozbee says: Jul 30, 2012 11:30 PM

    When Mexico takes over California Southern Cal can start up a league of its own in Mexico.

  58. papabush88 says: Jul 31, 2012 12:04 AM


    Not sure who the Penguins are, but and whatever sport that is they have at least 11 national titles? The equivalent to seven Heisman? The equivalent to the highest bowl winning percentage? And denaturing out the best talent and players in the nation? Because that’s what USC Trojans do

  59. papabush88 says: Jul 31, 2012 12:06 AM

    Sorry. Stupid Siri’s writing for me. Do the penguins churn out the best talent?

  60. tommy57 says: Jul 31, 2012 12:43 AM


    Is OJ Simpson’s Heisman one of the seven? Are/were USC fans as disappointed in him as PSU fans are at Coach Paterno?

    Just asking…not hating.

  61. norcalirish says: Jul 31, 2012 2:09 AM

    Disgusting. usc’s reputation is well earned.

    More national titles.
    More wins.
    Better winning percentage.
    More Heismans.
    More All Americans.
    More Academic All Americans.
    More Hall of Famers.
    A solid series lead.
    Better academics.
    No jealousy.

    Go Irish.

    PS: The American Olympic flag bearer was a classmate of mine at ND. 😉

  62. tommy57 says: Jul 31, 2012 2:34 AM


    Yes, I fully agree with you – the NCAA, as a competent governing body, is a total bust. They have not developed a meaningful way to ‘punish’ those who break the rules. Their leadership is as inept as their ‘bag of tricks’ sanctions.

  63. soundsofsuccess7 says: Jul 31, 2012 3:03 AM


    SC and ND are tied in national championships and heismans.

    Also, SC academics are better than Notre Dame, unless the only reason a student is going to college is for religious purposes.

    ND has a losing postseason record, whereas SC is 31-16 in postseason.

    ND also holds the all time record for consecutive bowl losses, at 9.

    USC has had more players drafted to the NFL. They’ve also had more first round picks than any other college.

    USC has played in more bowl games than ND.

    USC leads ND in All-Americans 157- 96.

    Do I need to go on?

  64. tommy57 says: Jul 31, 2012 4:49 AM


    Good points, but I’d stay away from the statistics you can’t really quantify or measure (“SC academics are better than Notre Dame, unless the only reason a student is going to college is for religious purposes”) unless your point is that religious schools are routinely of lower academic standard, which I’m confident was not your point.

    Stick to the numbers and you’re on solid ground.

  65. ethandavis6 says: Jul 31, 2012 7:41 AM

    it really doesnt matter if SC gets Silas Redd. Yes, he is a great running back and SC is a great team. However, SC wont be able to upset a SEC team in the Natnl Champ.

  66. nadsiantheory says: Jul 31, 2012 7:55 AM

    How is kiffin the slime ball here? It takes two to tango. Silas Redd is a big boy, if he didn’t want to go, he doesn’t have to. Besides, the only reason were here is because a real slime ball molested kids in the shower. Focus people!!

  67. papabush88 says: Jul 31, 2012 11:58 AM


    I guess that’s a fair question. OJ’s Heisman would’ve be tainted had he murdered people while still at USC. He killed his wife and Mr. Goldman some thirty years after attending USC. From what I’ve heard and read, OJ was a class act while at USC. The guy fell apart later in life and it all started with jealousy. Those murders ruined his life, but it was all his own doing. I believed he killed them and while he was found innocent in criminal court, he is now paying for it with all the other stupid stuff he’s done since. So, yes. Of course I count his Heisman. Athletes do a lot of dumb things, as does any person. It may not be equivalent to murder, but I doubt they’d take away super bowl ring from Plaxico Burress for the gun incident or any accolades won by Michael Vick for the dog fighting scandal. Sandusky did horrible things while at Penn St and Paterno helped cover it up while head coach. Besides, OJ was great in the Naked Gun series!

  68. oldforester says: Jul 31, 2012 12:25 PM

    USC has the perfect coach for its persona. USC reeks arrogance and that is why I dislike their school / culture. They remind me of the kids from the better neighborhood who never personally did anything to get there, but check your coat label to determine if you are good enough to hang with. That is why you have so many jerks associated with the culture – it is who they are and what they represent. The culture attracts them – their commodes smell like gardenias. In their mind they are better than you, they are smug and entitled. I hope Kiffin and his band of “elites” get their posterior kicked and lose 3 or 4 games with Redd at running back. I’d like to see Oregon put 60 on the board against them.

  69. papabush88 says: Jul 31, 2012 12:49 PM


    Other than when you said you hope we lose games, that was the nicest thing anyone’s ever said about USC. People that lack confidence call others arrogant. But I’m fine with being called arrogant. Rather be arrogant than a passive loser. Yes, at USC many of us have money. Why should we be sorry for that? Should we strive to be poor? That’s also why I love when haters call us U$C. Being rich is better than being POORegon. You sound like a jealous foreigner talking about your hatred of America. Your depiction of Trojans is both right and wrong. We’re not snobs, we are just better than you

  70. thekatman says: Jul 31, 2012 4:11 PM

    @Pappabush88, couldn’t have said it better. We are Arrogant Nation, and any other team and alumni/fans are just jealous of the success USC has had since 2002. Guess what kiddies, Arrogant nation has started up its engines again and will dominate another 10+ years….. One of my fav blogs is Lost Angeles and his Arrogant Nation. Check it out…

    @oldforrester. It’s a sham(e) you feel that the only way you can discuss issues where you have a passionate stance against is to name call is very typical of the liberal left’s approach to diaplog. You don’t have anything relevant to say that’s meaningful or substantiates your position, so you revert to name calling and using fould language. Of course you didn’t use foul language, but your peers do and it’s proof that U$C alumni and fans have a lot more class that the trollers on this blog and others. We love it when you guys get all hot under the collar and try to play dirty with us. We love it when USC plays your teams and the refs don’t call roughing penalties or illegal hit penalties against you. that just proves that even Larry Scott, Pac-12 Commissioner, is biased against USC. If it wasn’t for the history, the heritage, the dominance over all of college football by USC, Scott wouldn’t have been able to negotiate that ginormous TV contract for the Pac-12, where all schools get an equal share of the revenue, even though they don’t contribute equally to the notortiety that has generated that TV revenue. People all over the world watch USC games, like no other school, except for perhaps Notre Dame and they’ve slipoped in theTV rankings. I’d be very surprised if NBC renews their TV contract.

    Arrogance is power. When Oregon or UCLA tries to be arrogant all they are…. is rude.

  71. eatyalunch says: Aug 1, 2012 1:25 AM

    Let’s chalk up all this hatE to people simply being jealous of a program on the rise while their teams stagnate. Yes im looking at you Notre Dame. Fight On.

  72. lilrock9 says: Aug 1, 2012 11:19 PM

    USC has had more players (473), and more 1st round NFL Draft picks (75) than any other college. 162 Trojans have been selected to the NFL Pro Bowl, while a Trojan has played in all but two Super Bowls. SC stands alone REMEMBER THAT. YANKEES ,COWBOYS , LAKERS, RED WINGS , TROJANS. It’s a brand not just a SCHOOL.

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