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Pinkett: ‘a few bad citizens… criminals’ could do Irish some good

Allen Pinkett

Well, this is one way to stir the pot.

Since Lou Holtz left as Notre Dame’s head coach following the 1996 season, the storied Irish football program has compiled a record of 107-78.  A winning percentage of .578 has, obviously, not sat well with most fans, alumni and former players of the school.

Thankfully for them, one of those former players has offered up some “helpful” advice in turning around the Irish.

During an appearance on the McNeil and Spiegel Show Wednesday, ex-Irish All-American running back and current Irish radio analyst Allen Pinkett suggested that a few bad apples — and a couple of criminals — could be just what the doctor ordered for Notre Dame.

“I’ve always felt like, to have a successful team, you gotta have a few bad citizens on the team. I mean, that’s how Ohio State used to win all the time. They would have two or three guys that were criminals. That just adds to the chemistry of the team. I think Notre Dame is growing because maybe they have some guys that are doing something worthy of a suspension, which creates edge on the football team. You can’t have a football team full of choir boys. You get your butt kicked if you have a team full of choir boys. You gotta have a little bit of edge, but the coach has to be the dictator and ultimate ruler.”

Pinkett, an Irish radio analyst for over a decade, went on to state that, as far as the criminal angle of his thesis, he doesn’t “want any mass murders or rapists” on the Irish, which is likely a solid strategy for any football program.  Instead, Pinkett said…

“I want guys that maybe get caught drinking that are underage, or guys that maybe got arrested because they got in a fight at a bar, or guys that are willing to cuss in public and don’t mind the repercussions of it. That’s the type of criminal I’m talking about.”

Given the opportunity to back down, Pinkett reiterated his strategy for returning the Irish to its glory days.

“I absolutely meant that. Chemistry is so important on a football team. You have to have a couple of bad guys that sorta teeter on that edge to add to the flavor of the guys that are going to always do right. … You look at the teams that have won in the past. They always have a couple of criminals.”

It’s unclear how these comments will impact Pinkett’s working relationship with the school.

(Photo credit: Notre Dame athletics)

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23 Responses to “Pinkett: ‘a few bad citizens… criminals’ could do Irish some good”
  1. cometkazie says: Aug 29, 2012 4:59 PM

    A really slow news day . . . .

  2. steeler1nation says: Aug 29, 2012 5:10 PM

    I’m pretty sure the main ingredients in the beatdown of Notre Dame by OSU the last time they played (’05 Fiesta Bowl), was pure speed. Ted Ginn, Jr. Yeah, he’s fast. Santonio Holmes. Player. Also, Jim Tressel was a far superior coach to the arrogant & overrated Charlie Weis.
    OSU put 617 yards on ND that day.
    This clown Pinkett just sound better. Ala Mark May’s jealous hatred for OSU. 72-0. That was the score last time OSU & Pitt played.
    No wonder Notre Dame is too scared to play in the B1G. They’d be further exposed fore their mediocrity.

  3. seanb20124 says: Aug 29, 2012 5:10 PM

    Thank God Pinkett is a member of a protected class.

  4. steeler1nation says: Aug 29, 2012 5:11 PM

    * This clown Pinkett just sounds BITTER.

  5. bigbuckeye76 says: Aug 29, 2012 5:38 PM

    Paging Tommy Reese…..paging Tommy Reese

    By the way, is covering up the death of a student killed at practice criminal activity?

  6. dbldmr says: Aug 29, 2012 5:46 PM

    Covering up the death? I believe it was widely reported. OSHA investigated. I guess I missed the coverup. Declan should never have been permitted to be up there. I don’t think that’s in dispute. So…what’s the coverup? Somehow I suspect your concern isn’t for Declan. By the way, buckeye, any more domestic violence to report at OSU?

  7. friarjack61 says: Aug 29, 2012 5:50 PM

    Alan, you’re not that good on the radio, and now you are saying that your alma mater should recruit a type of jock, who would require classes like TV Guide 101/201/301. As you should know, at ND, there are student athletes, who attend degree seeking classes. ND does not have ‘Mickey Mouse’ classes for the, not too bright jock. Those who you suggest, are currently causing trouble in many schools, and are not students. One does not lower academic standards to get jocks. Student athletes graduate; but, seldom do jocks !

  8. mgavin78 says: Aug 29, 2012 5:54 PM

    Stupid comments. Wow

  9. bigbuckeye76 says: Aug 29, 2012 5:57 PM

    Yeah Pal, my concern IS for Declan, and the fact that once again, football rules all…. ND managed to find nobody guilty of anything…..after all those investigations. Just an accident I guess?

    I am sure their will be plenty more domestic violence issues at OSU AND every other school, not sure why you think your skirts at ND are clean?

    Football uber alles…

  10. meattornado says: Aug 29, 2012 6:09 PM

    Oh. Is that Notre Dame’s problem? Is that what it is?

  11. tttrojan4life says: Aug 29, 2012 8:20 PM

    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    I present to you the NEW Thug U.!!!!!!!

  12. steelersandladyboysfan says: Aug 29, 2012 8:22 PM

    When your program hasn’t been relevant since the end of segregation you tend to get desperate.

  13. surly1n1nd1anapol1s says: Aug 29, 2012 8:44 PM

    What a fool. How about punching cops? Sounds criminal to me. He’s a joke on the radio too. As are the hacks from WNDU.

  14. kelly8791 says: Aug 29, 2012 8:46 PM

    I played at ND in the late nineties. 2 things:

    1. We had a few bad citizens on our teams. Some years we were pretty good; some years we still stunk.

    2. Please, nobody get on their high horse and start in with the “Notre Dame is special because our athletes are true student-athletes” nonsense.

    Believe me, they have plenty of “Mickey Mouse” courses at the school. I took them all and barely went to class and still graduated (Not kidding).

  15. ohioirishfan says: Aug 29, 2012 9:14 PM

    @BigBuckeye76, you should be more concerned with Storm Klein beating on his girlfriend! I saw the report, he got off easy. Play in the big 10? For what our 2012 is already the toughest in the country. Tell me anyone in the big10 that plays the #1, #4, #8, #13 and #18 teams in the nation! Buckeye fans are complete retards. Kinda explains why the football teams grad rate is 63%. They are built in the image of their fans…

  16. steeler1nation says: Aug 30, 2012 12:34 AM

    Notre Dame football hasn’t been relevant in 20 years.

  17. tttrojan4life says: Aug 30, 2012 3:25 AM

    Kelly will most certainly oblige and bring in criminals. By next year, Indiana State Pen. will be empty.

  18. loadofwash says: Aug 30, 2012 7:05 AM

    I wonder what the SAT’s were for Ricky running waters?

  19. cometkazie says: Aug 30, 2012 7:17 AM

    steeler1nation says:
    Aug 30, 2012 12:34 AM
    Notre Dame football hasn’t been relevant in 20 years.
    +-+-+
    Except maybe to NBC which made the fooling decision . . . . There I go ranting again.

  20. cbass59 says: Aug 30, 2012 12:08 PM

    ND hasn’t won a bowl since the Sun Bowl in 1994 (roughly). They are not a powerhouse and haven’t been for decades. All they have is a large following.

    There’s a very good reason Urban Meyer TURNED DOWN a head coaching job. It’s not an elite program.

  21. kelly8791 says: Aug 30, 2012 12:23 PM

    Believe it or not, Ricky Watters was a good student and had good SATs.

    Two guys that played back in the day wouldn’t get in now–Chris Zorich and Tony Rice.

    Two important players, but they probably still would’ve been pretty good with:

    Rocket
    Ricky Watters
    Frank Stams
    Todd Lyght
    Andy Heck
    Tim Grunhard
    Derek Brown
    Patt Terrell
    Jeff Alm
    Tony Brooks
    Anthony Johnson
    Kent Graham

    And Meyer’s 2 dream jobs are ND & Ohio St. I’d do the same thing he did, though, because it’s waaaay easier to win at both places.

    And I’m an ND guy.

  22. tatum064 says: Aug 31, 2012 6:44 PM

    Pinkett spoke too candidly, but he’s correct in the fact the Irish need edgier, nastier players to balance the scale v. the scrappy teams that seem to upset them.

    Notre Dame is going off a lot of tradition and they havent quite got the temerity and “chip on the shoulder” that is a pre-requisite of beating teams.

    They’ve even had good recruiting classes. Pinkett comments, (which Paul Hornung and reiterated) are more out of frustration.

    Pinkett’s heart is in the right place, but his brain wasn’t. ND is a Catholic school, and they need a bit more discretion out of players representing them, but a little more ABILITY and attitude wouldnt hurt. Urban Meyer turned them down for a reason – their AD better start finding out why.

  23. footballer4ever says: Sep 1, 2012 2:11 PM

    It would have been better saying he wants ND to become equivalent as to what UM were in the 80′s and 90′s. (wink)

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