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Urban: ‘Braxton has more talent’ than Tebow

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Yes, the Old Gator went there.

We’ve chronicled on numerous occasions since the day of Urban Meyer‘s hiring at Ohio State the downright, well, giddiness the head coach has displayed over having a talent like Braxton Miller at his disposal.  And, to be frank, the true sophomore has done nothing to disappoint on the talent front.

Through three games, Miller is No. 3 among Big Ten quarterbacks — and 35th nationally — in passing efficiency, and has accounted for 12 of the Buckeyes’ 16 offensive touchdowns on the season.  He’s also 10th nationally averaging nearly 126 yards per game rushing.

Miller’s performance three games into his second season as a starter has already garnered the attention of online degenerates.  It’s also gotten the attention of his head coach, who for whatever reason decided to very publicly crank the expectation level up a notch or 30 for the unassuming QB by having an “oh no he di’int” radio moment.

“Very similar guys,” Meyer said on 97.1 The Fan in Columbus Thursday, when asked to compare Miller with (gasp!) Tim Tebow. “They’re both competitive human beings. They’re both very talented people. Braxton has more talent. Tim is probably more of a grinder.”

Meyer, of course, coached the lightning rod known as Tebow during a sizable chunk of the former’s tenure with the Florida Gators.  Meyer’s hyperbole aside, there are two significant differences accomplishment-wise between Tebow and Miller.  One, Tebow won two BcS titles as a Gator, the first at the expense of the Buckeyes; Miller won’t have the opportunity to even compete for his first until his junior season as the Buckeyes are ineligible for the postseason thanks to NCAA sanctions.  And, two, Tebow has a stiff-armed trophy in his collection, while Miller’s merely moving up the oddsmaker’s chart.

There are myriad other differences between the two players, obviously, chief among them personality.  Tebow was a fiery leader on and off the field during his time at UF, while Miller is more the quiet, lead-by-example type, at least at this point in his career.

Statistically speaking, though?  Meyer is certainly on to something.

Through three games as a sophomore in 2007 — his second season under Meyer — Tebow had thrown for 835 yards, eight touchdowns and one interception, and rushed for an additional 193 yards and five touchdowns.  In his first season under Meyer’s tutelage, Miller has thrown for 611 yards, seven touchdowns and two picks, with 377 yards on the ground and five rushing touchdowns.

Add it up, and Tebow had accounted for 1,028 yards of total offense and 13 touchdowns, Miller 988 and 12.  And, both teams under Tebow and Miller started their sophomore seasons 3-0.  And Tebow took home the Heisman following the 2007 regular season.

Regardless of why, Meyer has decided to publicly place the “Tebow onus” on Miller.  Here’s guessing that said onus will have zero impact on how Miller goes about his on- or off-field business.

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32 Responses to “Urban: ‘Braxton has more talent’ than Tebow”
  1. thegonz13 says: Sep 20, 2012 9:51 PM

    My 7 year-old son is better than Tebow!

  2. mauldawg says: Sep 20, 2012 10:14 PM

    UM has to say this about his player.What do you want him to say.If he told the truth his QB might get his feelings hurt.In todays world,you cant tell anyone the truth if it might hurt thier feelings.After all all players on all teams in youth sports get sometime of reward for just showing up.Players today cant handle the truth.Mom and Dad would sue someone if they were left out. By the way “thegonz” you will never be better than Tebow.For one you have no class.Hope you son finds a real man to look up to,your not one.I bet you ran home crying because you had no talent as a kid.Mommy wiped away your tears and gave you a cookie.

  3. polegojim says: Sep 20, 2012 10:15 PM

    Yeah JT, but … #3 of… Big Ten QBs… isn’t saying much… and I’m a B1G guy.

    Frankly, the kid has looked as painful as he’s looked good at times.

    Urban is… being Urban.

  4. WingT says: Sep 20, 2012 10:49 PM

    Urban is just building up braxton’s confidence.

    OSU is going to be a team to be reckoned with by year end. Too bad they can’t participate in a bowl. Next year they will be a top 5 team – easily.

  5. overratedgators says: Sep 20, 2012 11:06 PM

    Dear Gator Nation: That crunching sound you hear behind you is Urban twisting the knife in your back.

  6. frenchy121212 says: Sep 20, 2012 11:14 PM

    Urb said his current qb is better than his old qb? Wow. Insightful stuff Urb. Keep it up.

  7. grudenthediva says: Sep 20, 2012 11:28 PM

    Guess Urb’s indigestion is all cleared up now. Scumbag traitor.

  8. bigugly2005 says: Sep 20, 2012 11:34 PM

    I think Tebow will ultimately have a pretty good career in the NFL because frankly, he earns it every day in practice, in the gym, and in front of the kids who watch this game.

    And dipshits who talk trash about him like thegonz13, should be having their son’s emulate his work ethic and character, but instead they choose to open their ignorant mouths and spew venom. Sad little man.

  9. gatorword says: Sep 20, 2012 11:40 PM

    Overrated…Do you think we wish Urban ill will because he left? Do you think UF thinks they will never compete on the national stage without him? He left. I’m over it. I hope he has a lot of success at OSU, but not against UF. Coaches come and go. He was a great one and it would be awesome if he hadn’t left, but he did. I’ve moved on and I would hope most of the GatorNation has too. He didn’t ‘stab us in the back’. Obviously he had aspirations of moving home and coaching again. He got that chance, in part because he sealed the deal at UF by winning 2 National Championships. Anyone that does that has earned the right to choose his destination. I’ll take the time we had with him, thank him and move on. His BMW leaving Gainesville didn’t signal the end to football at UF.

    By the way, your name is great. I’m glad UF gets under your skin that much. :)

  10. wayne1693 says: Sep 21, 2012 4:42 AM

    Your anal-ysis is wonderful, but all The Coach said was that Braxton has more TALENT. Plain & Simple, from an expert on the subject. Nothing about stats; nothing about titles; nothing about awards. T-A-L-E-N-T.

  11. jag8r904 says: Sep 21, 2012 7:16 AM

    As a Gator, I am appreciative of the SEC and National championships that UF won under Meyer. However, I really don’t appreciate being told that coaching was detrimental to his health and that he needed to spend more time with his family. Only to have him immediately take a job with ESPN and back in coaching 9 months after “retiring.”

    I believe that Urban had success everywhere he’s been and many of his coaches left for better opportunities at other schools. Billy Gonzalez left on his own terms because he felt he deserved a bigger role. Urban never had to fire one of his coaches for lack of performance. He would have had to fire OC Steve Addazio if he stayed at Florida but he didn’t have the guts to do it. So instead, he lied and quit.

    So, in my opinion, he’s one of two things. Either he’s a lying quitter or a quitting liar. Just my opinion.

  12. crazycane says: Sep 21, 2012 7:49 AM

    Cane fan here, no he’s not. Tebow is one of the top 10 greatest CFB players ever and a player that comes to a program only once in a lifetime.

    Meyer has become the biggest JOKE in CFB. And the nickname Urban Liar fits him perfectly!

  13. 10kmp says: Sep 21, 2012 8:35 AM

    @crazycane says…
    “Meyer has become the biggest JOKE in CFB.”

    Don’t hate brother. It looks ugly on you. And besides, the biggest joke in college football is Miami and the 30 fans who came to watch them play Bethune Cookman last week. Talk about irrelevant; first a 52 point beat down by KSU, and then a “home game” in an empty stadium. Miami lives in the biggest glass house in college football. You can’t throw stones at anyone or anything…

  14. crazycane says: Sep 21, 2012 8:56 AM

    Ahh, the word ‘hate’..used by uneducated people everywhere that can’t put thoughts together about disagreeing with other teams. It’s OK, boo, I’ve never cared about who goes to the games and who doesn’t go. And Miami does suck right now and probably will for a couple more years but what I also know is Meyer hitched his post to Tim Tebow and left as soon as he did. He’s a liar, whether you like it or not.

    One more thing, what happened last time Miami played *SU with Noodle Arm/INT12 as QB? Don’t go away mad, just go away…

  15. omniusprime says: Sep 21, 2012 9:01 AM

    Anyone is better than Teblow! Teblow is the most over rated player in pro sports. We’ll never see Tiny Tim win an NFL championship as a starting QB. Tiny Tim’s only hope of winning a championship is for him to join the Lingerie League where his throwing like a girl won’t be noticed. Miller certainly has come a long way since his freshman year.

  16. tlmoon2112 says: Sep 21, 2012 9:11 AM

    wayne1693 says:
    Sep 21, 2012 4:42 AM
    Your anal-ysis is wonderful, but all The Coach said was that Braxton has more TALENT. Plain & Simple, from an expert on the subject. Nothing about stats; nothing about titles; nothing about awards. T-A-L-E-N-T.
    Expanding on what Wayne said here, I think in context what UM said may very well be true when using the word “talent”. But had he used the word “leader”, that would make me take a step back and call BS. As Saint Bobby Bowden said so eloquently, he hated to have to play against Tebow because “he’s Bronko Nagurski playing quarterback, the greatest leader I have ever seen”. So that said, dont mistake the words “leader” and “talent” or even “athlete” (which has been used to describe Tebow a lot) with each other because they are not the same thing. Even so called NFL experts have eluded to this. They separate Tebow’s lack of talent to play the particular position he espouses to be in from the fact he is such an impressive leader that he can influence people to do things they wouldnt otherwise do and acquire heights of greatness they wouldnt otherwise see for themselves as well as his athletic ability being so great that he belongs in the game, just not at QB (in their opinion).

    Please dont hate. NO ONE IS A BIGGER TEBOW FAN THEN I AM! Just ask my Bronco-fanatic wife whom I have debated many times since the spring about Manning and how Tebow was treated by Horseface Elway.

    On whether UM is a traitor or not, I dont know. I see both sides of it but it does leave a bad taste in my mouth to some degree. I compare he and Saban with each other because both have a lack of character that really sticks out and tells me they are not coaches I would want my kids to play for because they both stood in front of TV cameras and lied to everyone like it was no big deal. I generally dont make friends out of people who lie easily and I dont want my kids around people like that either. If I can get my kids to have 1 Inth of the character and leadership Tebow has, Id be an extremely proud man.

  17. steeler1nation says: Sep 21, 2012 10:16 AM

    love Urban, love Tebow, love Miller

    all are Great!

  18. vincentbojackson says: Sep 21, 2012 10:49 AM

    Yes, Braxton and Tebow are both great runners and below average passers.

    Both are basically running backs lined up under center.

    It will be interesting to see what Miller does against a good team. With OSU’s non-conference schedule and a weak Big 10, we probably won’t get to find out this year.

  19. tyler200829 says: Sep 21, 2012 11:36 AM

    @crazycane would you like to elaborate and adnit that we were without our starting tackle, center, quarterback, wide reciever, running back, HEAD COACH, and a couple players on defense? And do you remember what happened the year before last? Yes you lost….what an embarassment to the NCAA. Stay classy Miami…

  20. foreverlsu says: Sep 21, 2012 12:56 PM

    Urban Cryer left a mess at UF and got out before the losses were sure to come. Oh, and he rode Tim Tebow to two national titles so I can’t wait to see how gonzo’s 7 year old compares to that if he ever grows up.

    If anyone is overrated, it’s Urban Cryer!

  21. dutchman1350 says: Sep 21, 2012 1:13 PM

    Should have asked who’s cheerleaders are hotter, Florida, or OSU’s? 😉

  22. sd1024 says: Sep 21, 2012 4:20 PM

    …..he does.

  23. florida727 says: Sep 21, 2012 4:58 PM

    thegonz13 says:
    Sep 20, 2012 9:51 PM
    My 7 year-old son is better than Tebow!


    Your 7-year old son has a Heisman trophy and two national championship rings? Can I be his agent when he gets drafted in the 1st Round?

  24. steeler1nation says: Sep 21, 2012 8:26 PM

    thegonz13 says:
    Sep 20, 2012 9:51 PM
    My 7 year-old son is better than Tebow!

    hey GONZ — the doctor called, he got the test results back on your 7 year-old son. Yep, turns out he’s gay.
    Your son is queer.

  25. thegonz13 says: Sep 21, 2012 8:54 PM

    Yeah, to all those who were quick enough to bash me, let me ask y’all a little question. What has Tebow done since he’s been in the pros?

    Answer: Other than that one pass in the playoff game against Pittsburgh, NOTHING!

    Tebow managed to con alledged wunderkind Josh McDaniels into thinking that he had magically fixed his mechanics, which got him drafted in the first round. He got the starting nod when the Broncos gave in to popular pressure, but the truth is -and you guys can’t handle the truth- he was like an old Iraki Scud missile. When he let that ball go, you never knew where it was going to end up.

    Denver had to rearrange the offense not to suit his skills, but to hide his weaknesses. Plain and simple!

    Was he a good college QB? Yes. A great one? Well, put it this way. With the right supporting cast, the right system and some scheduling help, anyone can look great. And about that Heisman, many college players won the award and fizzled in the pros. Google it some time…

  26. pb420 says: Sep 21, 2012 9:54 PM


    You were the one stupid enough to bring your irrelevant 7 year-old into the equation. Whatever criticism you receive is well-deserved. What an asinine comparison that was. How does it feel knowing that you spend all this energy hating a man that doesn’t give a rat’s ass what you think, and will continue to win in spite of it?

  27. thegonz13 says: Sep 21, 2012 10:18 PM

    Pb420… Thank you for condoning idiotic comments like the ones steelernation came up with. I don’t mind getting criticism and my son was a mere metaphor to illustrate how average Tebow has been so far.

    I don’t give a rat’s ass about getting bashed, for I’ve been bashed by far better people than the likes of that Steelernation character. But when wastes of skin get personal about a child, it should tell you something…

    Sleep well!

  28. gogatorsjohn says: Sep 22, 2012 12:07 AM

    It comes to how you define talent. Seems like Miller is faster at running the ball and making cuts, but Tebow is pretty elusive and a power runner. I knew comparisons were bound to come up due to Meyer being the coach. But do you honestly think this comparison would come up if Meyer didnt coach both of them?

  29. gogatorsjohn says: Sep 22, 2012 12:10 AM

    I personally think Tebow is more accurate throwing especially with the deep ball. Miller has more zip on the ball. Leadership: Tebow (but I’ll keep open until Miller finishes career) Accuracy: Tebow. Athletic ability: Miller. Reading defenses: tie. Running the ball with power: Tebow. Running with speed: Miller. Pocket presence: Miller?

  30. gogatorsjohn says: Sep 22, 2012 12:22 AM

    Oh, and Tebow played against SEC defenses….

  31. blueglaze says: Sep 22, 2012 6:05 PM

    Ya… That’s the deal breaker… Tebow did it against SEC defenses… No argument there… Miller can never get a shot at being compared to Tebow unless he too played in the SEC

  32. dkhhuey says: Sep 25, 2012 6:26 PM

    If Urban Meyer says Braxton has more talent than Tebow, then Braxton has more talent than Tebow! Nobody was closer to Tebow than Meyer and nobody is closer to Braxton than Meyer. Now whether Braxton can out play him on the field is going to be another subject all together. Whether you like Tebow or not, the man was a stone cold killer on the field for the Gators! The bar is set very high and only time will tell if Miller can come close! As a Buckeye, I am giddy with anticipation to see what this kid will do under the coaching of Urban.

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