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The Fifth Quarter: Week 5 Rewind

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As is the case each and every season, each and every week, any omission below is not on purpose, it’s merely intentional.


Geno-logy of a Heisman run
Here at the Fifth Quarter, we — I — won’t be making any type of Heisman watch lists for another couple of weeks.  However, if the stiff-armed trophy were handed out today, Geno Smith would be the winner in a veritable landslide — if it’d even be that close.  In further buttressing his case for the Heisman, all the quarterback  for No. 9 West Virginia did against a (literally) defenseless No. 25 Baylor squad was throw for 656 yards and account for 687 yards of total offense.  Smith also threw more touchdowns (eight) than incompletions (six) in the wild 70-63 win in the Mountaineers’ first-ever Big 12 conference game.  In four games, Smith has thrown for 1,728 yards and 20 touchdowns while completing a staggering 83.4 percent of his passes.  Most impressively, Smith has no interceptions amongst his 169 attempts.  Again, there’s a lot of time between now and the awarding of the Heisman in December.  Still, it appears that the most prestigious trophy in the sport is Smith’s to lose.

Attended an SEC game, and a Big 12 matchup broke out
Annually hailed as the top defensive conference in the country, the SEC prides itself on bringing it on that side of the ball.  Through some tiny rip in the space-time continuum, however, all Big 12 hell broke loose in Athens Saturday afternoon.  Between Georgia and Tennessee, there were 95 points scored; 1,038 yards gained; and 42 first downs earned as the No. 5 Bulldogs held on for a wild 51-44 win over the Vols.  There was also an “ugly” side to the game, with the two teams combining to commit seven turnovers.  Two of those late in the first half allowed the Vols to turn a 27-10 deficit into a 30-27 lead.  Three committed by UT quarterback Tyler Bray in the last six minutes prevented any hopes the Vols had of earning a road upset.

Urban renewal continues in Columbus
Undefeated through his first four games as Ohio State’s coach, Urban Meyer‘s Buckeyes had yet to be tested as the early-season schedule consisted of the likes of Miami of Ohio, UCF, Cal and UAB.  The first real measuring stick of the season, on the road no less, came in East Lansing against Michigan State in the Big Ten opener for both schools — and OSU passed with flying colors, albeit of a dull hue variety.  And despite the first uneven game of the season for star quarterback Braxton Miller.  In a game that was, for better or worse, the epitome of Big Ten football, and the exact opposite of anything that happens in the Big 12, the No. 14 Buckeyes churned, grinded and pounded out a hard-fought 17-16 win over the No. 21 Spartans.  It was far from pretty from an aesthetic point of view, but it was efficient in that it resulted in a fifth-straight win for Meyer and the Buckeyes.  While Miller accounted for 315 yards of offense (179 passing, 136 rushing), he accounted for three turnovers (one pick, two lost fumbles) that could’ve been OSU’s undoing in such a hostile — and stanky —  environment.  It didn’t, and that’s the mark of a good football team and one that Meyer’s rightly proud of.  Even in this lost season of sanctions, with no shot at a Big Ten championship game or bowl berth, the Buckeyes are clearly the class of the Big Ten.  Granted, that’s like proclaiming someone as the tallest midget, but it’s something for the Buckeyes to continue playing for.  Well, that and a shiny Leaders Division trophy.

Bill O’Brien
Through the NCAA sanctions in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky scandal, through the personnel defections wrought by said sanctions, through an ugly 0-2 start to the 2012 season, Bill O’Brien has persevered.  And, it appears, that perseverance is paying off big time for both O’Brien and the beleaguered Penn State football program.  For the third straight weekend following the laughable start, Penn State heads home on a Saturday with a win stuffed firmly into its back pocket.  The latest victim for O’Brien & Company was Illinois, with PSU coming away with an easy 35-7 win against the team that did the most over the summer to take advantage of the liberal transfer policies.  Quarterback Matt McGloin, one of the more pleasant surprises of the season, accounted for three touchdowns — one passing, two rushing — while the defense limited the Illini to just 74 rushing yards and forced three turnovers.  Certainly the stain of Sandusky’s crimes will linger over the university for years, or even decades, to come, but this coach and these players had nothing to do with either the illegalities or the cover-up that brought the program to its knees.  There are certainly rough times to be had in the coming years, thanks to the scholarship reductions that will hurt for the better part of a decade.  Still, it appears O’Brien was and is the right choice to captain the Nittany ship through the rough waters that lie ahead.

Ess-Bee-Cee!!! Ess-Bee-Cee!!!
One of the more fascinating storylines of the 2012 season has been the play of the Sun Belt Conference through the first five weeks of the year.  Specifically, how the Little Conference That Could has fared against SEC programs.  Louisiana-Monroe and Western Kentucky have already beaten Arkansas and Kentucky, respectively, while ULM — three-point overtime loss to Auburn — and Troy — six-point loss to Mississippi State — had near-wins against the conference.  Now, that ’12 magic has extended beyond the SEC, much to the detriment of the ACC.  In a stunning turn of events, Middle Tennessee State traveled to Georgia Tech and laid a whooping on the Yellow Jackets, heading back to Murfreesboro with a 49-28 win over Tech.  The loss, fueled in large part by MTSU running back Benny Cunningham‘s 217 yards rushing and five touchdowns, was the first by Tech to a non-BcS school since 1996.

Stephen Morris, QB extraordinaire
Wait, what?  Be that as it may, and not that anyone saw it (see below), but Miami quarterback Stephen Morris passed for 271 yards and three touchdowns in the first quarter of the Hurricanes’ wild 44-37 win over North Carolina State.  The junior finished the game with a school- and ACC-record 566 yards and five touchdowns as the Hurricanes’ offense rolled up 651 yards of offense — and were outgained by the Wolfpack and their 664 yards.  Yes, defense is a significant issue for the Hurricanes — they gave up 419 yards and 36 points in a win over Georgia Tech; 498 yards and 52 points in a loss to Kansas State; have allowed less than 32 points once, to FCS-level Bethune-Cookman — but The U has started a season 4-1 for the first time since 2007.

Munchie Magic sweeping the ‘Nati
There’s not a better name in college football than Munchie Legeaux.  As it turns out, he has a pretty damn good game to go along with the name.  With just 13 seconds left in Cincinnati’s game against Virginia Tech, Legeaux tossed a 39-yard touchdown pass as the Bearcats stunned the Hokies 27-24 in a “neutral site” game in Landover, Md.  While Legeaux completed well under 50 percent of his 42 passes, he did throw for 357 yards on his 19 completions.  The Bearcats are now 3-0 and, with games against Miami (OH), Fordham and Toledo in between, could very well remain that way when they head into the Oct. 26 game with still-unbeaten Louisville.  The win was huge for the Big East as well, which entered Week 5 with two teams — the ‘Ville and Rutgers — ranked inside the Top 25.  Don’t be surprised that, come Sunday afternoon, another team from that conference is added to that ranked role.

Kain is very much able
In a 44-29 win over Indiana that kept Northwestern unbeaten on the season, Kain Colter finished with 100-plus yards rushing (161) and receiving (131).  Normally that wouldn’t be noteworthy, but, at the start of the season, Colter was the Wildcats’ starting quarterback.  While Colter is still officially listed as QB, he’s given way Trevor Siemian and is being utilized in a Wildcat-type role.  In addition to the 294 yards of total offense — he had two yards passing — Colter accounted for four touchdowns, with all four scores coming on the ground.  Along with Ohio State, and thanks to Minnesota’s loss, the school known more for its academic prowess is one of just two teams in the Big Ten without a loss five weeks into the season.

Catch of the day
And, thanks to the right hand of Middle Tennessee State’s Anthony Amos, it’s not even close:

AIRBHG no match for walk-on
Yes, it might be best not to tempt the patience of the Angry Iowa Running Back Hating God.  Yes, it’s just two games.  But, yes, after years of unbelievable bad luck at the position, the Hawkeyes may have found their backfield savior.  Last week, former walk-on and Air Force transfer Mark Weisman rushed for 217 yards and three touchdowns in Iowa’s stunning upset loss to Central Michigan.  This week, the “Weisman for Heisman” bandwagon likely got a whole helluva lot more crowded as the sophomore “fullback” (winkwink nudgenudge) ran for 177 yards on 21 carries as the Hawkeyes knocked Minnesota from the ranks of the unbeaten with a 31-13 win.  After rushing for just eight yards the first two games of the season, Weisman has bulled his way to 504 yards the past three.


And on the sixth day, the defense rested
If you are a fan of a little something called “defense” being played in a game of college football, Baylor-West Virginia likely induced night terrors and/or convulsions.  If you’re a fan of offense?  College football porn as far as the eye could see.  Filthy, unadulterated, unfiltered pornography.  The two teams combined for 70 points , 32 first downs and 736 yards of offense — and then they came back out of the locker room at halftime and played two more quarters.  The offensive carnage for the game reads as follows: 133 points (see photo below), 1,507 yards, 66 first downs and 22-of-30 on third-down conversions, with Geno Smith and Nick Florence combining to throw for 1,237 yards and 13 touchdowns.  The game featured a pair of 300-yard receivers (WVU’s Stedman Bailey and BU’s Terrance Williams), while the Mountaineers also had a 200-yard (Tavon Austin) and 100-yard receivers (J.D. Woods).  Baylor had three receivers go over 100 yards in the same game for the first time in school history.  There were a total of three punts in the game on a day that old-school souls will likely lament for years to come.  Yes, it was a smashing debut for the Mountaineers in their official Big 12 coming-out-party.  Word of warning, however: no FBS football team can or will win a BcS title — hell, maybe even a Big 12 title — with a defense like that.  Until Joe DeForest and company get a handle on the defensive side of the ball, WVU will be nothing more than an entertaining sideshow while we await the real national title contenders to emerge.

The voters
No, not the ones who will decide which lesser of two evils will serve as POTUS the next four years.  No, the voters we are referring to are the ones who make up the Associated Press and coaches’ Top 25 polls.  The first three games of the season — the opener against Texas A&M was postponed due to Hurricane Isaac — Louisiana Tech rolled through Houston, Rice and Illinois.  For that effort, the Bulldogs were rewarded with seven votes in the AP poll and none in the coaches’ following Week 4.  In Week 5, Tech went out and slayed another BcS-level team, dropping Virginia 44-38 on the road.  Is Tech a Top 10 team?  Hell no, or at least probably not.  But no one should be able to sit there with a straight face and state that there are 25 better teams in 2012 than the Bulldogs.  Hopefully, when the polls are released Sunday afternoon, the voters in both polls will show some common sense and do the right thing by looking beyond how BcS conference schools fared this weekend.  I won’t hold my breath, though.

Player safety?
Over the past several years, the NCAA has made tremendous strides in improving player safety.  Then, Saturday night, one of the Association’s members did this:

That was the scene at Southern Miss for the Conference USA team’s 21-17 loss against No. 19 Louisville, played in what amounted to a monsoon that a duck, Oregon or otherwise, would avoid like the plague.  At various points of the game, and on various areas of the playing field, there looked to be an inch or more of standing water, leading us to openly wonder if there would be a yards-after-hydroplane stat for the game.  Why the non-conference match-up was played in such conditions is unclear, although it was very clear that such weather issues most certainly created a situation that could’ve been very dangerous for each and every player who slopped his way around that field for 60 minutes.

Tale of two Techs
And it was a woeful twin tale, non-conference-wise, for the ACC.  Early on in the day, Georgia Tech inexplicably stubbed its toe — or, more accurately, kicked itself in the groin — against Middle Tennessee State in a 21-point humbling at the hands of the SBC school.  Three hour later, Virginia Tech allowed a last-second touchdown to Cincinnati as the Hokies dropped their second game of the season, both, oddly enough, to teams from the Big East.  In fact, that conference has had the ACC’s number all season long, leading the head-to-head meetings 4-2 and setting up for what should be a very interesting bowl selection process as it relates to the two conferences.

U-S-A!!! U-S-AAARGH!!!
FCS-level Stony Brook 23, Army 3.  We love ya, ‘Merica, but…

Weekly Miami “fan” update
And, yes, it’s just as — or arguably more — embarrassing this week as it has been the past few seasons:

The above photo was taken less than 20 minutes prior to kickoff by South Florida Sun Sentinel beat writer Michael Casagrande.

This wasn’t Bethune-Cookman, either; this was an ACC game against 3-1 North Carolina State.  The lack of “fan” support for the Hurricanes football program is absurd and shameful.  Oh, and embarrassing as well.

How ranked teams endured close shaves vs. unranked opponents

– No. 2 Oregon 51, Washington State 26: The Ducks were up on the Cougars just 23-19 at halftime.  After that, order was restored as the Ducks we’ve come to know and love/loathe emerged from their first-half slumber for a comfortable win.

– No. 3 LSU 38, Towson 22: It doesn’t matter the final score, a comfortable 16-point margin.  When the third-ranked team in the country is trailing an FCS school at home deep into the second quarter, it makes the cut.  Add this lackluster first-half performance to a lethargic two-point win over a below-average Auburn team last week, and the Tigers may not be who we thought they were after all.

– No. 4 Florida State 30, USF 17: We’ll just chalk this up to a post-Clemson hangover.  As late as six minutes left in the third quarter the Seminoles clung to a 13-10 lead over the now-2-3 Bulls.  17 unanswered points put the game out of reach.

– No. 5 Georgia 51, Tennessee 44: It wasn’t pretty defensively — and UGA could very well have been looking ahead to next Saturday’s showdown with No. 6 South Carolina — but the Bulldogs were able to stave off the game Vols and remain unbeaten through five games.

– No. 6 South Carolina 38, Kentucky 17: The Gamecocks were on the ropes in the first half, trailing 17-7 heading into the locker room  before pulling away for the road win.  Like UGA, USC may have been peeking ahead to next weekend’s game that will be dripping with SEC East implications.

– No. 12 Texas 41, Oklahoma State 36: The Cowboys aren’t your normal unranked opponent, so this was still a very impressive win for the Longhorns.  It’s also a win that could propel UT into the Top 10 of the rankings for the first time since Week 4 of the 2010 season.

– No. 15 TCU 24, SMU 16: In the battle for the coveted Iron Skillet, the Horned Frogs were never in any real danger of losing but still allowed a one-win team to hang around in the same neighborhood much longer than expected.  TCU does, though, own the nation’s longest winning streak at 12 straight games.

– No. 17 Clemson 45, Boston College 31: We’ll just chalk this up to a post-Florida State hangover, part II.

– No. 18 Oregon State , Arizona : A 17-0 lead begat a 21-17 deficit begat a back-and-forth trading of scores begat a thrilling three-point win for the unbeaten Beavers.  The Nov. 24 Civil War matchup with Oregon could be a very, very fascinating affair this season.

– No. 19 Louisville 21, Southern Miss 17: We almost didn’t include this one, given the weather conditions involved.  The Cardinals trailed 17-6 late in the second quarter, but showed tremendous heart in coming back in those conditions and protecting its unbeaten start to the season.

– No. 22 Nebraska 30, Wisconsin 27: Much the same as with Texas’ opponent, the Badgers were not your or the Cornhuskers’ ordinary foe.  After falling behind 27-10, NU ripped off 20 unanswered points to come away with a huge conference home win and the second-biggest comeback in school history.

– No. 24 Boise State 32, New Mexico 29: The Broncos jumped out to a 32-0 halftime lead, only to see the Lobos storm back to nearly pull off the upset.  BSU’s return to the Top 25 last week will likely be short-lived.

A snapshot look at how my ballot would look Monday if I, ya know, had a real vote instead of a measly and meaningless preseason poll.

1. Alabama — The Tide has been biding its time until a date with LSU by outscoring its five 2012 opponents 201-35.  Clearly, UA is far and away the class of the current season. (Last week: No. 1)
Up next: at Missouri

2. Oregon — Speaking of domination, Oregon has outscored its five 2012 opponents (262-99).  A Ducks-Tide BcS title game would be a helluva lot of fun, and is definitely a very realistic possibility at season’s end. (Last week No. 3)
Up next: vs. Washington

3. Kansas State — The combination of an impressive bye week showing, the lingering impressions left by the upset of Oklahoma last week and some rather lackluster performances around them pushes the Wildcats up a couple of spots. (Last week: No. 5)
Up next: vs. Kansas

4. Florida State — The post-Clemson malaise notwithstanding, the Seminoles remain a viable BcS title contender. (Last week: No. 2)
Up next: at North Carolina State

5. Georgia — At this point in time, we prefer to view the 44 points given up to Tennessee as an anomaly.  We reserve the right, though, to change our mind. (Last week: unranked)
Up next: at No. 6 South Carolina

A weekly look at some of the current head coaches who could most likely be an ex-head coaches by season’s end — if not sooner.

– Arkansas’ John L. Smith: There’s really not much need to go into the well-chronicled train wreck that’s been the start to the season, other than to say the trigger should be pulled sooner rather than later.

– Cal’s Jeff Tedford: Already with cheeks planted firmly on the proverbial hot seat entering 2012, Tedford has done nothing to turn down the temperature through Week 5.  In fact, it may be hotter than ever as the Bears have stumbled their way out of the gate at 1-4, the worst start in Tedford’s 10-plus seasons at the school.  The latest setback for the Bears was a 27-17 loss to Arizona State that dropped Cal to 0-2 in Pac-12 play.

“I might need more gun powder for this game.” — Jon Kimble, WVU’s mascot, very appropriately writing on Twitter at halftime of the Baylor-WVU game.

“I felt like Clemson’s defense or something.”  — WVU defensive back Darwin Cook after allowing 63 points — seven points less than the Mountaineers scored on the Tigers in the Orange Bowl earlier this year — to be put on the board by the Bears.


That was the “Stripe the Stadium” scene in Morgantown Saturday afternoon as West Virginia made a very successful debut in Big 12 conference play.  And that photo comes courtesy of Mike Florio, who some of you may know from a lil’ website called ProFootballTalk.


– No. 1 Alabama fell behind Ole Miss 7-6 early in the second quarter on a Jeff Scott touchdown run, the first time the Tide has trailed in a game — regulation or overtime — since the Nov. 5 loss to LSU.  The streak ended at 33 straight quarters, but the defending BcS champions started a new one 15 seconds later as Christion Jones returned the ensuing kickoff 99 yards for both a touchdown and a lead the Tide wouldn’t relinquish.

– Baylor wide receiver Terrence Williams‘ 314 yards broke the Big 12’s minutes-old record set moments earlier by West Virginia’s Stedman Bailey, who finished the game with 303 yards.  Bailey’s five touchdown catches, incidentally, broke the school record.

– The last FBS quarterback with at least 550 yards and five touchdowns in a game was Houston’s Case Keenum against Southern Mississippi on Oct. 31, 2009.  Saturday, there were three who hit that mark: WVU’s Geno Smith, Baylor’s Nick Florence and Miami’s Stephen Morris.

– Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel broke the SEC record for total yards in a single game, accounting for 557 (453 passing, 103 rushing) in the Aggies’ shellacking of Arkansas.  Manziel’s total broke the record of 540 shared by Archie Manning and Rohan Davey.

Sean Mannion passed for 433 yards and three touchdowns in Oregon State’s win over Arizona.

– True freshman Keith Marshall rushed for 164 yards on just 10 carries in Georgia’s close win over Tennessee.  UGA also got five touchdowns from a pair of true freshmen — Marshall’s two and Todd Gurley‘s three.

– Miami of Ohio quarterback Zac Dysert threw six touchdown passes and had a ridiculous 624 yards of total offense in a 56-49 win over Akron.

– Baylor’s 63 points against West Virginia tied the record for the most scored in regulation in a loss by an FBS school, joining Rice (2004) and Toledo (2011) in that infamous grouping.

– Stat of the Day, SID Division: With the 5-0 start, Urban Meyer becomes the third first-year Ohio State coach to start their career 5-0. Only two other first-year coaches have started a season 5-0: Carol Widdoes went 9-0 in 1944 and eventually won his first 12 games; and Meyer mentor Earle Bruce opened 11-0 in 1979.

– Runner-up Stat of the Day, SID Division: AJ McCarron passed Brody Croyle’s Alabama record of 190 consecutive pass attempts without throwing an interception when he connected with Brent Calloway in the latter part of the second quarter. McCarron entered the game with 176 attempts and entered the locker room with the new record of 195 attempts without an interception.

– North Carolina’s 66 points in a shutout win over Idaho set a school record, surpassing the standard set back in 1928.

– BYU totaled 540 yards of total offense in the shutout win over Hawaii Friday night; in the previous two games, both losses, the Cougars had a combined 512 yards.

– Duke has started a season 4-1 for the first time since 1994.  Oddly enough, that was the last time the Blue Devils qualified for a bowl game.

– After Week 4, there was one team that had yet to throw a touchdown pass.  After Week 5?  There are none as Air Force’s Connor Dietz tossed two of them in the Falcons’ easy win over Colorado State.

(Writer’s note: The Fifth Quarter will be taking a one-weekend sabbatical next Saturday as we officially move into the new CFT West Virginia headquarters.  Try not to miss me too terribly much.)

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23 Responses to “The Fifth Quarter: Week 5 Rewind”
  1. suprmous says: Sep 30, 2012 2:35 AM

    John, could you get more predjusticed when it comes to the SEC? And I’m not kidding. Your slant on the Conference has all but the makins of a well done burned to a crispy fried chunk of rattlesnake: it shows. I know of nobody other than one other who is so obvious with the way they feel about the sit’uation. And God forgive me but spare me the sermon. Every conference has their own proud member but to come out and harp on it as if it’s the only member well that’s just a bit more than what the Zanax can handle. Even with the 3 bros that played at Bama I never let em get to me like what your and the other’s praisin does. Its been said I’m not a very proud sistah or I’d be shoutin from the roof tops. I assure you I’m a proud sistah but I just can’t be baptized in that pool everytime it’s opened. And to take away from the other teams is just down right wrong. There’s teams out there that are better but nobody talks them up because they’re not part of the scheme of things. And you know that’s sad. So here’s to the winners, the losers, and the ones that get left out.

  2. truefootballinsight says: Sep 30, 2012 2:53 AM

    You’re telling me after FSU beats a very vulnerable Clemson (as per today’s game against a very weak BC and after giving up a boatload of points on last years bowl game, their defense comparable to WVA and Baylor? Probably) then struggles against the almighty USF bulls of the big easy? Geez ive never seen a bigger media hype machine. They ha 4 home games and a split crowd at Tampa. Their schedule is an All Cupcake Confrence with the mighty duke, Miami, VT( lost to Pitt), ncs, and md. Their top 3 games are against 3 unproven teams. 2 at home and idk if Vt Is a “big” game. That being said Alabama has an easy schedule too but at least they dismantled shoelace and co. I don’t see and justification of fsu in the top 10. What games have they won? Duke beat out wake today. Bc put up almost as many points against Clemson. The Bowles next test is at home vs a questionable uf at the end of the year. Their schedule is easier than boise’s last year.

    Tell me this if fsu starts out unranked, would their wins boost them up to even the top ten?


    Week 1-2 beats two fcs teams. No one gets into the rankings for that.

    Week 3
    Destroys a miserable wake team that’s worse than duke, they maybe creep into the 20’s

    Week 4
    they beat a Clemson that we have all now seen cannot tackle and has no defense. Albeit we all could have sworn Clemson might have taken it if dabo was not such an idiot and stop using the middle of he field. Then they creep into the 17 or 18th rank.

    Week 5
    USF, beating then is no tall order.
    They should remain a not top 15 team.

    Please enlighten me as to why they are such contenders besides their patsy schedule…

    (all being said I am not a fan of many cfb teams, I am an nfl guy through and through and I watch cfb mostly for the prospects and future nfl’ers)

  3. florida727 says: Sep 30, 2012 9:43 AM

    Jokingly, I’ll say that any SEC record achieved against Arkansas this season should have an asterisk (*) next to it :) Congrats to Manziel. I saw him against Florida, and my first thought was, “this guy’s going to be GOOD”. Remember, he’s a FRESHMAN. John L. Smith, hope you enjoyed your time as head coach at Arkansas. It’s coming to a close… quickly. Tyler Wilson or no Tyler Wilson, your season has ‘disaster’ now firmly written all over it. But go ahead, keep smiling.

    The WVU-Baylor game is an embarrassment to college football. You can’t put up those kind of numbers in a video game. I genuinely hope that WVU and/or Baylor get bowl matchups against a defense like LSU, Alabama, Southern Cal, any one of a number of Big Ten teams, heck, even my Gators, just to see if they can put up those numbers against a team that actually knows how to spell D-E-F-E-N-S-E. If they can, I’ll be the first to sing their praises. If not…

    Can’t wait for college football to have playoffs. Alabama, objectively, deserves their #1 ranking, and until someone beats them, biases aside, stop deriding their accomplishments. However, if Oregon, Kansas State, and Florida State, ALL run the table, the three letter schools will both get screwed. KSU and FSU will have legitimate claims to play for the national championship, and won’t get the chance. It’s early, there’s a lot that can happen between now and then obviously, but an early ‘prediction’ of an Alabama/Oregon national championship game wouldn’t be exactly going out on the proverbial limb.

    “southernpatriots”, tell your Tigers to go easy on my Gators this coming Saturday. Thanks in advance :)

  4. kansas525 says: Sep 30, 2012 9:57 AM

    Couple of things. Catch of the Day was good, but one of the receivers for WVU did better. I believe it was 3rd and long, he speared the ball by the tip, with one hand, then tucked it away and ran for additonal yards. The Catch of the Day here was sort of like an outfielder waiting at the fence and jumping up to take a home run away from the hitter.

    Point two – RE WVU & Baylor – defense does not win football games. It can contribute to it, but does not win it. If you are playing against a team that scores everytime it touches the ball, you are going to lose unless you do the same thing. That is why it is a final SCORE instead of final yardage gained. It is also why LSU and Alabama did not want anything to do with Stanford and OK State last year for the championship. PS – LSU gives up 17 to Towson St; Georgia gives up 44 to Tennessee; Alabama gives up 17 to Mississippi – what would they do against a real offense?

  5. polegojim says: Sep 30, 2012 10:39 AM

    #1 -JTs actually a B1G guy – OSU
    #2 – The ‘hype’ will end when B1G Teams… and others… start beating SEC teams.

    Until then, the SEC reigns supreme.

    It’s really just that simple.

  6. mogogo1 says: Sep 30, 2012 11:32 AM

    “although it was very clear that such weather issues most certainly created a situation that could’ve been very dangerous for each and every player who slopped his way around that field for 60 minutes.”

    Wow. Not long now until football is played with guys wrapped in bubble wrap. Ever played in the rain? The sliding around is actually a lot of fun. And unless there was lightning, there’s nothing inherently dangerous about it. And if playing in the rain is taboo, obviously the snow won’t be acceptable, either. Will we force all schools to build domes?

  7. js20011041 says: Sep 30, 2012 1:25 PM


    What’s with the hardon for FSU? None of the top teams looked impressive this week. Not Alabama, not Oregon, not LSU, not FSU, not Georigia, and not WVU. Also, while I think Alabama is clearly the best team at this point, the deeper we get into the season, the less impressive their resume looks. Michigan is a top 25 team, but really nothing special. Arkansas is a shell of it’s former self and they haven’t played any other teams of note. Knock FSU’s shedule all you want, but they’ve arguable passed a tougher test in Clemson than the top team in the country has.

  8. js20011041 says: Sep 30, 2012 1:35 PM


    Also wanted to ask, why did you add on at the end that you are an NFL fan and not college football, as if it’s something to be proud of?

    Thats like saying you prefer a Big Mac to filet mignon.

    It’s like saying you prefer checkers to chess.

    Its like saying you prefer Jersey Shore to Seinfeld.

    It’s like saying you prefer the redneck comedy tour to George Carlin.

    One product is clearly superior to the other, and here’s a hint, it ain’t the NFL.

  9. chachooga says: Sep 30, 2012 3:07 PM

    JT you are expected to know what goes into UMs attendance problems. 1. A decade of mediocrity 2. More importantly they blew up the orange bowl and UM now plays in Broward, nice stadium but lost faithfulmfanbase in seating change and price hike. 3. Noon game in Miami…..nobody is awake before noon let alone outside.

    Golden is doing something special….hope he whoops your beloved Irish.

    And hey how did that ACC bashing upset of the week work out for you?!?!?

    Go canes!!!!!

  10. truefootballinsight says: Sep 30, 2012 3:14 PM

    Clemson is a defenseless football team. Watch them finish unranked this year… As for how Clemson is a test, I dont get it. It’s a home game, against a bad. It could be that the media just wants them to be champs again. Everyone is proclaiming they are back after a single “ranked” win. I say I’m an nfl guy bc if I were an ACC fan, I’d have reasons to dislike FSU. Or if I were a Florida fan. I’m not saying anything is better, both are completely different things. Just saying this is the view of an unbiased viewer. Look at my mini rant again and see that most things can not be refuted. FSU proclaims to have an elite defense, but let’s be real, no elite defense ever would allow so many points in one game as FSU did to Clemson. Sure Clemson has a good offense, but in the end, FSU did not play solid D. So I still don’t understand why they are ranked so high. Their stats are all so skewed bc they played two fcs teams to begin e season and then a god awful wake.

    That being said I don’t think LSU belongs in the top 5 after the auburn and FCS games. At least not for now. They have to prove themselves against Florida on the road. ( that, my friend is a test, a road game at the swamp) not a home game at doak.

    P.s. Alabama was “tested” vs Michigan, not so much that Michigan was good, just that it was in a neutral site, and the first game of the year when many teams are still working out the small details against fcs teams.

  11. southernpatriots says: Sep 30, 2012 4:11 PM


    If I did not know better, I would think you are trying to lull us to sleep, to underestimate your Gators at The Swamp! No, we aren’t that crazy.

    Tell your Gators to take it easy on the Bayou Bengals, we are just some house cats, some tame pussy cats….meow. We brought ourselves 10 penalties v. Towson, and coughed up the ball about 6 or 7 times, losing possession about 3 of those. Defense made some great plays and some great failures. After Towson, no more getting the kinks out. We are playing poorly, and your QB is on fire and your team is playing great.

    At the beginning of the season I was hoping to make the trip to The Swamp, but with the lingering effect of Hurricane Isaac we still have many without their electricity, still in need of hot lunches and meals we provide, rather than the MREs of FEMA. FEMA has not truly helped those who really need help. I am wondering why they are here.

  12. dmvtransplant says: Sep 30, 2012 4:43 PM

    @ JT

    Be honest you stole that “Kain able” line from that movie The Program with James Caan?

    The best line to me was ” Yeah, but when was the last time 80,000 people showed up to watch a kid do a damn chemistry experiment?”

  13. js20011041 says: Sep 30, 2012 5:27 PM


    You are being far too simplistic regarding FSU’s defense. FSU did not play great on defense against Clemson, but they played far better than the score looks. First, lets start with the fact that Clemson is one of the most talented offenses in the country and also play a scheme that can be difficult to prepare for. Now FSU, defensively, gave up 5.5 yds per play against Clemson. Compare that with Alabama’s performance against Michigan in which Alabama gave up 4.8 yards per play. While that difference is not insignificant, it is also not massive, and no one is going to confuse Michigan’s offense with Clemson’s.

    Also, take into account that Clemson emptied their bag of trick plays. Multiple touchdowns came as the result of either trick plays and or blown coverages. Not that these don’t reflect the competence of a defense, but FSU wasn’t getting physically beaten on the football field. They were making correctable mistakes. You can fix blown coverages. You can’t fix a deficiency in talent. I also should mention that this is a defense without two key starters from last year in Greg Reid and Brandon Jenkins, and this is still one of the deeper defensive units in the country. Look, I’m not saying that this is the best defense in the country. They sure as hell didn’t look like it last night against USF and I believe that that crown belongs to Alabama. But to sit there and say that they aren’t an elite defense and one of the best in the country is just ignorant.

  14. florida727 says: Sep 30, 2012 9:20 PM

    “southernpatriots”, keep doing the work you’re doing. Far more important than a football game. A lot of people clearly are depending on you for help. God bless you and your efforts.

    I went to Louisiana after Gustav, to Mississippi after Katrina, and to Tuscaloosa after the tornadoes with Samaristan’s Purse (Franklin Graham’s disaster relief ministry). I’ve seen first hand the need after the devastation, and realize it’s an ongoing effort that lasts long past when the television cameras stop covering it for their sensationalistic purposes. I’ve been unable to come there in the aftermath of Isaac, but will try to remember to still keep you and the others there in prayer going forward.

    Good luck, Saturday. I still think LSU is the better team, but I’ll be rooting for the Gators. Hope it’s a good, competitive game.

  15. southernpatriots says: Sep 30, 2012 9:36 PM


    Thank you for your encouragement. We know the need is here but we do miss the times we spent enjoying our LSU and SEC football.

    There are few places in the SEC that remind us of Death Valley at LSU and The Swamp comes to mind first. The fans are similarly “rabid.” ha.

    Thank you for your prayers. They are most needed and appreciated. Every day it seems we encounter new people who lost everything. It really reminds us of so much we have to be thankful about.

    After some recent outings, I do not think LSU is the better team. I will be rooting for LSU as you will root for the Gators and that is the way it should be, but in my mind, based upon the performances of each team, the Gators should be favored.

    There are some fans who were at the Towson game who said it appeared LSU was working on getting some kinks worked out on the offense and getting rookies playing time and both of those things caused some of the fumbles and penalties, as well as the sluggish first half. There may be some truth in that, but the backup QBs did not receive one snap.

  16. suprmous says: Oct 1, 2012 1:43 AM

    polegojim, I’m NOT sayin the SEC isn’t powerful I’m just sayin there’s more conferences out there tan just the SEC and sometimes folks tend to have tunnel vision in recognizin that. Geesh Louise, I’m not the bad guy and neither is John but somewhere in the lost translation I got mistaken for a bad guy. I admire the SEC just as anybody else who does but lets face facts other conferences have their darlings just as the SEC. So please don’t hate the messenger on this one.

    Southernpatriots, God bless you with what you’re doin in and out of the Great State of Louisiana. I say prayers for you and other Good People all the time that cures are found for maladys you run into and hopefully fore I die some will become available. And I hope you didn’t hold that comment bout you bein an old sly fox against me but you sure are gutsy.

    I wish for everybody to have a good week and may all of us live to see another tomorrow.

  17. southernpatriots says: Oct 1, 2012 3:03 AM


    Thank you for your kindness.

    God willing, I will speak with the Senior Associate Athletic Director at LSU tomorrow or as soon as his schedule allows to discuss scheduling some new teams. He just scheduled TCU for the Cowboy Classic first game of 2013 and he scheduled Oregon there first game last season.

    Hope to speak with the LA Governor soon about the situation with the only children’s hospital in Louisiana whose funding was greatly cut, putting many children at risk. I don’t know if speaking with the governor is boldness or stupidity on my part, but apparently I have whatever that is.

    To add to my (likely) stupidity I also am trying to speak with the Director of FEMA to ask many questions on why they are here since they do not seem to be actually helping anyone in need.

    Then I emailed the Football program at LSU and some reporters who will be at the press conference on Wed with Les Miles to ask to confirm or deny that the sluggishness, penalties, and sloppy play in the first half against Towson had to do with playing so many rookies to give them game time and trying to get the kinks out of the offense before the gauntlet of the SEC schedule begins in earnest with Florida at The Swamp this Saturday.

    I think the folks who are out of their homes and without power say they love my Jamaican Jerk Chicken, slow smoked and seasoned with authentic Jamaican seasonings. I am going to cook some Cuban dishes to today to give some variety, from my last medical mission to Cuba in which I brought my wife, sister, many of the younger members of the family and 4 pastors of our church and nearby churches. The Cuban people are beautiful. They have suffered so long under Castro (Fidel and now his brother Raul). They need freedom.

    All water supplies remain fouled with hurricane waters and salt water. Tasted some municipal water yesterday and spit it out, it was so nasty. That is a big problem here and hoping and praying they fix it as well as the continuing power outages.

    Take care of yourself and keep the faith!

  18. scalpemseminoles says: Oct 1, 2012 10:57 AM

    To the guy who keeps saying seminoles had no defense against clemson:

    We stopped their explosive offense which last year was among the best in the country. On top of that, if you had actually watched the game, you would have seen clemson pull out every trick play they had in their bag and it still wasn’t enough. clemson scored in the last 2 minutes to make us not cover, but in the last 30 seconds of the game when we were in scoring range, ej took a knee despite the field being wide open to not run the score up. the noles won the game better than the score indicated.

  19. alligatorsnapper says: Oct 1, 2012 11:02 AM


    Be careful there scalpem’ ! You are using logic and actual facts. That is not liked by some on CFT!

  20. fatediesel says: Oct 1, 2012 12:04 PM

    I wonder how hot Jeff Tedford’s seat truly is at Cal. Firing Tedford would cost Cal almost $7 million, plus whatever his assistants are due, and then they’d have to pay another coach $2-$3 million (minimum). It’s possible donors could step up and raise the money to fire him but that’s the only way I could see Tedord getting fired.

  21. florida727 says: Oct 2, 2012 8:14 AM

    Thanks, “southernpatriots”. We’ll find out if the Gators are for real in short order. Within the next 4 Saturdays we face 3 of the top 6 ranked teams in the country… your Tigers this week, then South Carolina and Georgia. Only good thing is that they’re essentially all home games; 2 in The Swamp, UGA in Jacksonville for the annual “World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party”. With UGA playing USC this week, one of them won’t be ranked as high when we meet them, but they’ll all be formidable just the same. If our defense plays to its capability and the offense gets just a little more proficient, we could do something pretty special. Then again, we do have to go to Tallahassee to close with Florida State, who should be undefeated and ranked no worse than #3 or #4 by the time we get there.

  22. southernpatriots says: Oct 2, 2012 8:48 AM


    The gauntlet of the SEC schedules are upon our teams. Each week there is another opponent ready to take your head off and make a name for themselves, and get bragging rights. That is the life in the SEC. Some really big games are upcoming with some top 10 ranked teams.

    If LSU and Florida were playing a top 10 ranked team from the PAC 12 or Big 12, the national media would be making a big deal of it. But since it is SEC team v. SEC team you don’t hear the national media talking about it.

    Though I will not be traveling to The Swamp this weekend, some family and neighbors will be. We all missed the Towson game because of the aftermath of the hurricane, but also a monsoon that was ongoing on Friday and Saturday. The ground and waterways here in south LA were already soaked and topped so with the rains we were flooded again. We still had sandbags around our home but many had removed them from theirs, only to be flooded again.

    It will be an experience for our freshmen/rookies to play in The Swamp….ha. They won’t forget that experience!

  23. florida727 says: Oct 2, 2012 1:39 PM

    “southerpatriots”, stay safe my friends. We’ll need to get together one of these years. Wish there was a way to connect with you folks without having to post an email address or phone number on a public blog site. Someday we’ll connect…

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