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Pair of upsets shakeup Top Ten in coaches’ poll

Bill Snyder AP

As expected, the Top Ten of the Week 7 version of the USA Today coaches’ poll has taken on a slightly different look than its predecessor of a few days ago.

Thanks to a (to be kind) humbling blowout loss to Texas Tech, West Virginia tumbled all the way out of the Top Ten from No. 5 to No. 15.  South Carolina, which lost to LSU on the road, remained in the Top Ten despite the loss, falling five spots to No. 8.

The win over the Gamecocks propelled the Tigers up two spots to No. 6.

Alabama remains a unanimous No. 1 among the 59 coaches who vote in the poll, while Oregon, on a bye this weekend, remains a solid No. 2 by receiving all but one of the 59 second-place votes.  Kansas State (No. 3), Florida (No. 4) and Notre Dame (No. 5) all moved up two spots apiece.  The ranking for the Wildcats, incidentally, is its highest in this particular poll since the 1998 season.

That might not be good news for K-State as the team that sat in the No. 3 hole the past two polls — South Carolina and LSU — have lost the past two weekends.  Next Saturday, the Wildcats travel to Morgantown to face the Mountaineers.

Oklahoma (up three to No. 7), USC (static at No. 9) and Florida State (up one to No. 10) round out the Top Ten.

Three teams dropped out of this week’s Top 25, led by Texas.  The Longhorns, routed by Oklahoma in the Red River Blowout, tumbled all the way out from its previous spot at No. 15.  Louisiana Tech (then-No. 24) and Iowa State (No. 25) were the other two to tumble following close losses.

Replacing the banished trio were Texas Tech (making its 2012 coaches’ poll debut at No. 20), Arizona State (No. 24) and Michigan (No. 25).  The Wolverines return comes a week after, for the first time in the poll’s history, no Big Ten teams were ranked in the Top 25.

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26 Responses to “Pair of upsets shakeup Top Ten in coaches’ poll”
  1. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Oct 14, 2012 12:46 PM

    Why is 7-0 Ohio not ranked? The SID poll just needs to go away.

  2. manchestermiracle says: Oct 14, 2012 12:52 PM

    myopinion: Obviously you missed all the news about THE Ohio State getting sanctioned by the NCAA. They are bowl-ineligible, thus the Coach’s poll does not include them. Duh. See USC last year.

  3. manchestermiracle says: Oct 14, 2012 12:53 PM

    The AP poll has Ohio State at #7. Feel better?

  4. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Oct 14, 2012 12:57 PM

    Wow, guys. Talk about not being able to read. I was talking about the Ohio Bobcats. Thanks for playing, though.

  5. jgater1981 says: Oct 14, 2012 12:59 PM

    You morons know he’s not talking about OSU, right. Duh!

  6. brakengo says: Oct 14, 2012 1:03 PM

    Where’s the love?

    Stanford loses to undefeated Notre Dame in OT at South Bend and drops six slots whereas South Carolina loses to a lower rank team and drops five slots but remains in top ten

  7. pjduffey says: Oct 14, 2012 1:07 PM

    The Coaches don’t rank teams that are bowl-ineligible. Ohio State (I assume you are talking about the Buckeyes) is banned from the post-season this year.

    If you are talking about the mighty Ohio Bobcats, they actually got some votes (54 with #25 Michigan getting 96), but aren’t likely to get very much respect anytime soon. They play in the MAC and have not played a top 25 team all year. In fact, the teams they played (and admittedly beat) had a combined record of 11-33. Sangarin ranks their strength of schedule as 161.

    While rankings have come to be some weird version of property that you get to keep unless you loss (usually), they are supposed to be an estimation of quality. In other words, if the teams played 100 games, number 23 should be able to beat number 24 most of the time.

    Scraping by the ferocious UMass Minutemen (0-6) by a field goal doesn’t make a great case for Ohio to be in the top 25. Or the top 30. Or the top 50.

  8. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Oct 14, 2012 1:12 PM

    @pjduffey:

    Talk about another person who can’t read. And, yes, the Bobcats at 7-0 DO deserve to be ranked, especially over any 2 loss teams at this time, regardless of the conference they play in. I’m not asking or even suggesting that they deserve top 10, but they are one of the best 25 teams in the nation, despite your Big Six bias. P.S., I’m not even a Bobcats fan, the team I cheer for plays in one of the Big Six. I’m just also a fan of college football in general and pay attention to more than just my team/conference.

  9. buckeye94 says: Oct 14, 2012 1:20 PM

    This person clearly said Ohio not Ohio State quit telling them there stupid when they know what there talking about and those trying to correct only look like the ignorant stupid ones.

  10. pjduffey says: Oct 14, 2012 1:34 PM

    @myopinionisrighterthanyours:
    Chill bro. I didn’t read your response because you wrote it while I was writing mine. Your original post was ambiguous to many because you were talking about a MAC team being in the top 25. Sorry some people found that surprising.

    And if you want to talk about not reading, then read my post. I don’t think Ohio is capable of doing anything other than MAYBE pulling a 1-in-100 upset of a top 25 team. That’s why I (ME, not the coaches in the coaches poll) don’t think they deserve a top 25 ranking.

    Oh, and that 2 loss team they beat is Penn State playing in the (awful) B1G after getting gutted post-Paterno. Congratulations, I hope they don’t throw out their shoulders patting themselves on the back.

    Like I said, once Ohio can do more than survive 0-6 MAC teams, they can start talking about moving up to a real conference that provides the sustained competition needed to test a team’s true quality. Until then, whine all you want about “the Big Six” but don’t be surprised when some team that is 7-0 against teams that wouldn’t have a winning record playing Texas AAAAA teams doesn’t get respect.

  11. addict2sport says: Oct 14, 2012 1:35 PM

    USC better put together a full game before they even think about jumping any one loss teams.

  12. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Oct 14, 2012 1:38 PM

    @pjduffey: Sorry, didn’t realize that beating Penn State in Happy Valley now qualifies as a team that wouldn’t win against Texas high school. Please, though, feel free to enlighten me with more of your Big Six ignorance.

  13. Deb says: Oct 14, 2012 1:58 PM

    Why has Oklahoma played only five games when all the other teams have played six or seven? Even with its bye last week, Alabama has played six.

  14. pjduffey says: Oct 14, 2012 2:01 PM

    Penn State is awful and Ohio didn’t exactly rock them. It’s also the ONLY team with a winning record that Ohio beat. That’s right, Ohio has only played one team, ONE TEAM, that has more wins than losses.

    But that’s a good point, Ohio has beaten a team that has beaten one ranked team. Of course, that team (Northwestern) hasn’t beaten a single ranked team all year. In fact, much like Ohio, they haven’t even PLAYED a ranked team.

    Of course, we could take a look at the rest of Ohio’s opponents. They combine for an impressive 7-31 record. Put another way, those teams lost 4.4 games for every 1 game they won. But hey, Ohio beat them–some even impressively (44-10 drubbing of the mighty (2-5) Norfolk State!!!!!1111one). Then again, Ohio also scraped by its last three opponents by a combined 16 points. Those opponents? The feared UMass, the ferocious Buffalo, and the fierce Akron. The combined win/loss record of those opponents? An awe-inspiring 2-17.

    That is just not impressive. It’s not. In fact, it’s not even remotely impressive. Ohio has had one game that registers as even moderately consequential and that was a win in a season opener of a team that had just lost their coach of 60 years, gave up a half dozen starters to transfers, and had been subjected to the most searching media scrutiny in college football. But hey, Ohio beat them by TEN POINTS. OHEMGEE!!!!!

  15. gator2006 says: Oct 14, 2012 2:30 PM

    West Virginia ranked ahead of Texas Tech. Somebody please attempt to justify this.

  16. imaduffer says: Oct 14, 2012 2:36 PM

    @Deb,

    Oklahoma has seven games left on their schedule.
    Bama has six.

  17. Deb says: Oct 14, 2012 2:40 PM

    @imaduffer …

    Thanks … just seemed odd that they were behind everyone else.

  18. oldschool48 says: Oct 14, 2012 3:30 PM

    Deb–my guess is since Big 12 has only 10 teams, they are “slow playing” the schedule a bit to have games later in the season to stay on TV while other teams are having conference championship games. Need to be on the radar screen that time of year.

  19. Deb says: Oct 14, 2012 3:42 PM

    Thanks, oldshool48! I was still wondering if they just started their season late and why. Yes, that makes sense.

  20. cometkazie says: Oct 14, 2012 5:05 PM

    I believe LSU was favored by a field goal, so that wasn’t an upset.

  21. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Oct 14, 2012 5:28 PM

    @pjduffey: Yup, Penn State is awful. Their coach is only going to win conference and possibly national COY honors. You got me. Please, enlighten me further with your BROAD college football knowledge.

  22. pjduffey says: Oct 14, 2012 6:18 PM

    Anything Penn State’s coach might win is going to be a result of the fact that they actually defied expectations and won more than a handful of games.

    But that doesn’t make the team (or the B1G) any less awful.

    Not to mention the fact that beating Penn State is the singular “bright spot” on an otherwise unimpressive record (as I demonstrated in my previous post). And even then, IT’S JUST NOT REALLY IMPRESSIVE AT ALL.

    But hey, you’re the expert, right? Because your posts are so enlightening. Oh gee whiz mister, the coach of one team they beat MIGHT win a CotY award, so they are like super definitely a top 25 team!!! And if you disagree you must be part of a “big six” cabal to shit on the little guy!

    Get real. Ohio has not played anyone nor do they have anyone of consequence on their schedule. If they go undefeated then we are going to have to listen to bullshit about how they deserve to go to a real bowl. Then if they go they are just going to get fisted by a real team. Fuck. I feel like I’m talking to a six year old.

  23. Deb says: Oct 14, 2012 6:48 PM

    @cometkazie …

    Was LSU favored? Guess I wasn’t the only one who thought they’d win it.

  24. irishdodger says: Oct 14, 2012 7:38 PM

    Hard to punish the other SC for losing to LSU at home at night. That said, I watched that game and it wasn’t as close as he score indicated. If LSU can get he QB position figured out, they’ll be in contention. As far as SC, Conner Shaw just had a bad game. That interception was unexplainable. I hope the one thing we can all agree on is preseason polls. It’s beyond ridiculous & it could really cost a good fringe team at seasons end. I’d love to see the first poll come out after week six, but would settle for week two. Luckily, when the BCS is replaced by the new format, teams will quit padding their schedule w/ FCS schools. I don’t care how tough one thinks their conference is, there’s zero excuse for playing FCS teams.

  25. fcmlefty1 says: Oct 14, 2012 9:04 PM

    Best comparison for Ohio this year would be the 2008 Ball State team. Ball State finally broke into the top 25 after running thier record to 7-0 – they came in at #25 in the Oct 12 coaches poll that season. Ohio is currently #27, only 2 spots behind where Ball State was at a similar point in time. The big difference is that Ball State hadn’t had anything remotely close to a close call yet at that point. Ohio has had 3 games in that category. Being on the fringe of the top 25, but not in the top 25 right now is justified in my opinion.

  26. frank booth says: Oct 15, 2012 10:15 PM

    myopinionisrighterthanyours says:Oct 14, 2012 5:28 PM

    @pjduffey: Yup, Penn State is awful. Their coach is only going to win conference and possibly national COY honors. You got me. Please, enlighten me further with your BROAD college football knowledge.
    ==================================
    I think it’s terrific that a someone can win Coach of the year for losing to teams like 2-5 Virginia and Ohio (a MAC team) and beating the likes of Navy, Temple, Illinois, and Northwestern. O’ Brien seems like a pretty good guy, but the fact of the matter is that most of the important players from last year’s 9-4 team have stayed at Penn State. What O’ Brien has done is hardly impressive.

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