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No Bulldogs, Gators or ‘Cocks on Alabama’s 2013 SEC schedule

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Alabama is currently ranked atop the AP, BCS and USA Today coaches’ polls, and is undoubtedly the favorite to play for (and win) another BCS championship.

Based upon the 2013 SEC schedule released Thursday afternoon, we have to ask: is it really too early to pencil the Tide in to the 2014 BCS championship too?*

As far as conference slates go, Alabama is basically on Easy Street. While a Sept. 14 conference opener at Texas A&M could be tricky, Bama gets Arkansas and LSU at home, and has one SEC East road game: at Kentucky. No Florida. No Georgia. No South Carolina.

The other SEC West schools that don’t have to face any one of those three are Ole Miss and Texas A&M. Meanwhile, LSU goes on the road to Georgia and plays Florida. Arkansas gets Florida and South Carolina in back-to-back weeks.

The Gamecocks, meanwhile, have three straight SEC road games in the middle of the season, but avoid Alabama and LSU.

You can see all the individual schedules HERE.

(*Don’t answer that. It’s rhetorical.) 

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106 Responses to “No Bulldogs, Gators or ‘Cocks on Alabama’s 2013 SEC schedule”
  1. kiopta1 says: Oct 18, 2012 3:37 PM

    Talk about risk management.

  2. mydixienormus says: Oct 18, 2012 3:45 PM

    So much for a “brutal SEC schedule”….

    Best conference in America, right SEC honks.

    Yes, you have 6 National Championships. Is that the sole criteria for “Best Conference”? Seems to be the first thing that comes through the spaces between your few teeth.

    If so, if Oregon wins a National Championship this year, does that make the Pac-12 the “Best Conference in America”?

    Allow me to Summarize the SEC:

    Top of SEC = Good. Damn Good.

    Middle of SEC = Average

    Bottom of SEC = Blows (7 SEC schools at this level). That is 1/2 of your conference last I checked.

  3. imaduffer says: Oct 18, 2012 3:50 PM

    Alabama only has to worry about those tough non conference games they schedule.

  4. papabush88 says: Oct 18, 2012 3:51 PM

    No time to play SEC schools when there are so many FCS schools to play. Bring on the powerhouses like Georgia State and Chattanooga. The perks of being in the SEC: 8 home games; more FCS opponents scheduled than any other major conference.

  5. mydixienormus says: Oct 18, 2012 3:54 PM

    Well said papabush88. I forgot about that point.

  6. mydixienormus says: Oct 18, 2012 3:56 PM

    Must be nice to only play 8 conference games.

    Conferences like the Pac 12, Big 12 & Big Ten play 9. Hmmmm.

  7. BurkieInBoston says: Oct 18, 2012 4:03 PM

    Hey Dixie get ready to get some SEC venom on here after they read your post. God have mercy on your soul. You were just busting balls, right?

  8. mydixienormus says: Oct 18, 2012 4:05 PM

    Just having a little fun Burkie. Sort of.

    Like Joe Biden though, I mean what I say. Smile.

  9. florida727 says: Oct 18, 2012 4:05 PM

    I’m an SEC fan, but even I think Alabama’s schedule for 2013 is ridiculous. No Florida. No South Carolina. No Georgia. And your non-conference opponents include Georgia STATE and UT-Chattanooga? I’d be embarrassed to pay full-price for my Bryant-Denny tickets.

    Although the 2014 in-SEC schedule may prove tougher, the non-conference schedule definitely is NOT: West Virginia (minus Geno Smith by then), Florida Atlantic, and Western Carolina? Whoever is scheduling your games better be getting one of those fancy championship rings, that’s all I know.

    I probably don’t have too much room to complain about anyone else’s schedule: Florida’s 2013 schedule includes (Holy!) Toledo, Miami (how much can they improve in one year?), and Florida State. Then again, 2014 is downright embarrassing: Idaho, Eastern Michigan, Eastern Kentucky, and Florida State.

    Who the heck does this scheduling? I know every week can’t be a Top 10 team, but seriously, COME ON. Some of these “games” won’t be as competitive as the Orange & Blue spring game for cryin’ out loud.

  10. tlmoon2112 says: Oct 18, 2012 4:10 PM

    @Florida727 – Come on bro, they’re not too embarrassed to take their pants off and put their ball sack in another guys face….why would you think this would embarrass them?

  11. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Oct 18, 2012 4:12 PM

    mydixienormus says:
    Oct 18, 2012 3:56 PM
    Must be nice to only play 8 conference games.

    Conferences like the Pac 12, Big 12 & Big Ten play 9. Hmmmm.

    The B1G does not play 9, yet. They are moving that way, as is the SEC, by the way. And the Big 12 plays 9 because they have to.

  12. fcmlefty1 says: Oct 18, 2012 4:24 PM

    “Big 12 plays 9 because they have to”

    They are under no obligation to play 9 conference games. They have chosen to play a round robin conference schedule, but there is no mandate that says they have to. See the Mountain West as a reference in this regard. (Boise doesn’t play Air Force this year, etc)

    Also, are we sure the Big 10 is going to 9? They were at one point, but then scrapped the idea when the Big 10/PAC 12 scheduling alliance was announced. That alliance was subsequently scrapped, but I don’t believe they ever announced they were going back to the original plan of getting to 9 conference games

  13. rolltide510 says: Oct 18, 2012 4:29 PM

    Sorry guys. Alabama can’t control the fact that the SEC west went down the tubes and which teams in the SEC east they play is a rotational schedule. The addition of A&M and mizzou have a lot to do with it. Also, up until very recently the SEC east was hot garbage. Now it’s loaded. Fortunes change faster then preset scheduling does.

    Sorry Michigan didn’t put up more of a fight. It was hard to see that coming years ago when the game was scheduled?

    LSU and Arky sure looked good this offseason. Hard to predict they’d both be irrelevant this year. Don’t get me started on auburn.

    If it were up to me, there would be some on-the-fly adaptive flex-scheduling. Let’s play Oregon tomorrow. Let’s play Notre Dame next week.

    I think you guys need to show some sympathy for us. Do you have ANY idea how !#!#$##@ boring it is to be an Alabama fan these days?

  14. jmb795 says: Oct 18, 2012 4:39 PM

    Soft schedule can bite you in BCS once the Harris (and other Polls no one has ever heard of) are factored in.

  15. frug says: Oct 18, 2012 4:39 PM

    This is yet another reason you need a 9 game conference schedule for a 14 team conference.

    Though in Alabama’s defense (man that feels weird to say) Nick Saban has been outspoken in his support of a 9 game conference schedule.

    @fcmlefty1

    Actually in order to meet their contractual obligations to their TV partners the Big XII does have to have a 9 game schedule of they will lack a sufficient inventory of conference games.

    @myopinionisrighterthanyours

    The Big 10 has stated they are not going to be adopting a 9 game schedule any time soon. They were going to begin one in 2017, but they dropped the idea after the B1G-PAC scheduling alliance was announced.

    However, after the alliance collapsed they decided to stick with an 8 game schedule but adopt a requirement that all schools play at least 2 AQ OOC opponents a year starting in 2014.

  16. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Oct 18, 2012 4:59 PM

    “Big 12 plays 9 because they have to”

    They are under no obligation to play 9 conference games.

    ————————————————

    Um, yes they are. Even if there’s not a written obligation (which frug suggests there is, and he may very well be right), you would NOT purposefully choose NOT to play just one opponent from your own conference.

  17. suprmous says: Oct 18, 2012 5:09 PM

    This’ totally without doubt the most assinine thing to be done: not playin those teams that have tradition with Bama. Just tell me it ain’t so. Granted I support LSU but c’mon next thing you know Bama will move in other directions, i.e. possibly Conference opponents will be a thing of the past altogether. Don’t get me wrong everybody needs variety but to single out some as I said not playing tradition is unthinkable.

  18. lbijake says: Oct 18, 2012 5:18 PM

    Hope you notice that they also will not schedukle Temple either. You can run but you cannot hide from the Owls.

    Temple from the Big East, formerly from the MAC and formerly from the Big East.

  19. Deb says: Oct 18, 2012 5:23 PM

    @rolltide510 …

    If they have more than a couple of unshelled peanuts for brains they know–and certainly Ben Kercheval knows–that Alabama had nothing to do with scheduling its in-conference opponents. Those schools are scheduled on a rotating basis, just as games are scheduled in the NFL. But Bama is a click magnet … so there you are.

    At least Florida727 is man enough to note that the Gators’ future schedules are no better. Arkansas fell this year, making the Western division weaker. And the Gators improved, making the Eastern division stronger. No one can predict these things in advance.

    As for the … um … “premise” of the article, yes, it’s too early to put Bama in the running for the 2013 title. It’s too early to assume Bama will make the 2012 title game. Football is a fickle sport, and anything can happen on any given Saturday.

  20. Deb says: Oct 18, 2012 5:25 PM

    I am curious about one thing though:

    Since all you guys believe the SEC is so weak, why are you arguing that it would be more difficult for our teams if they played 9 in-conference games instead of 8?

  21. papabush88 says: Oct 18, 2012 5:39 PM

    @Deb

    I don’t think the SEC is weak (especially compared to the B1G or ACC…maybe even Big 12)…However, what I do find weak is the number of FCS schools the SEC schedules. You and I have agreed on this before. Of the major conferences, the SEC schedules more FCS opponents that any other conference. Another thing I find kind of weak is that many, if not all, SEC teams play 8 home games. PAC 12 plays 6.

    While I don’t think the SEC is weak, if I were to play devil’s advocate, my argument for why SEC should play more in-conference games is because of rivalries. Even if the SEC were weak, in-conference rivalries change everything. For example: UCLA was terrible last decade. USC, on the other hand, was VERY good last decade. USC’s last game was vs UCLA. Looked like an easy win. USC was 10-1 coming into the game and UCLA was 6-6. Easy win for USC especially since their last 4 games were blowouts, and three of those blowouts were vs ranked teams. Still, UCLA shocked USC and beat them. Rivalries are EVERYTHING! USC was one win away from their 3rd BCS national championship berth in a row. UCLA was absolutely not better than USC that year. However, in rivalry games, many underdog teams play differently than they would against anyone else.

    My point is that even if Alabama is awesome and say for example Florida is terrible…you never know what can happen. But this year, that is not the case as I believe Florida to be the best team in the nation (they proved the most) and Alabama to be #3 (Michigan and Arkansas aren’t the teams people thought they would be).

  22. papabush88 says: Oct 18, 2012 5:40 PM

    Clarification: The USC-UCLA game I was referring to was the one in the 2006 season.

  23. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Oct 18, 2012 5:42 PM

    Deb says: Oct 18, 2012 5:25 PM

    I am curious about one thing though:

    Since all you guys believe the SEC is so weak, why are you arguing that it would be more difficult for our teams if they played 9 in-conference games instead of 8?

    —————————————————–

    Well said, Deb. It’s because the SEC Haters want to have their cake and eat it to. They are the same ones who argue that the reason that SEC defenses are so good is because the offenses suck, ignoring the fact that if that statement were indeed true, the teams wouldn’t have scored enough to win 5 of the last 6 BcS title games, or about how the greatest offense of the 2000′s decade only put up 14 points when it counted.

  24. Deb says: Oct 18, 2012 5:42 PM

    Alabama has no “tradition” of playing Georgia, Florida, or South Carolina. We play Tennessee in an annual rivalry game that originated in 1901. Otherwise like every other team in the SEC West we play our second matchup in the SEC East on a rotating basis.

    No one is moving in other directions and doing the unthinkable … or doing anything different than we’ve done for the last umpteen years. Good grief.

  25. Deb says: Oct 18, 2012 5:47 PM

    @papabush88 …

    Whoa! I didn’t agree that the SEC schedules more FCS games than any other conference. All the major conferences schedule FCS games. I agreed that your team–Southern Cal–doesn’t schedule them. And props to USC for that. And I agree that I think it’s rinky-dink for any FBS team–including mine–to schedule an FCS game. That should not be allowed.

    @myopinion …

    Exactly … for five of those six games, the SEC was playing teams from other conferences in that title game. Yet for some reason, they keep arguing that our defenses couldn’t outperform their offenses.

  26. papabush88 says: Oct 18, 2012 5:58 PM

    @Deb

    “Exactly … for five of those six games, the SEC was playing teams from other conferences in that title game. Yet for some reason, they keep arguing that our defenses couldn’t outperform their offenses.”

    “Our” defenses? There is no such school as the University of the SEC. You’re a Bama fan. Recent history is a solid test of the strength of a conference/a team. In that case, I guess USC must be the premier team. In the last 10 years, they are 4-0 vs the SEC with the most recent wins being blowouts in which the combined score was a whopping 120-31. Guess the SEC defense are no match for USC. The SEC is without a doubt a GREAT conference. I mean, the B1G is so far from being anywhere near the SEC. But a gimmicky Oregon team, Choklahoma, and no B1G team is going to unseat them. A real team can.

    And if you agree with an opinion that a conference like the SEC should not schedule FCS opponents, then how can you not agree with a fact that the SEC schedules more FCS opponents than any other major conference in FBS? It’s a fact.

  27. tommysaint1 says: Oct 18, 2012 6:01 PM

    All of you arguing that the SEC isn’t the best or complaining about the top to bottom strength of the conference… even the ones talking all that mess about the # of home games.
    What are you arguing about? College football itself is a joke, a scam to get you to buy college gear so they can make more money as they jack up tuition.
    Grow a pair, watch the NFL and stop worrying about what cartoon mascot Corso puts on every Saturday… they are all JV games.

  28. Deb says: Oct 18, 2012 6:09 PM

    @tommysaint1 …

    This may come as a shock, but some of us can watch college ball and still love the NFL. And merchandising plays a role in pro ball, too. Why are you here?

    @papabush88 …

    That “our” stuff is an SEC/Southern thing. It’s a birthright and inexplicable. But yes, ultimately each championship was the work of one team rising to prominence at that moment.

    Last time I checked, most teams were scheduling one FCS school; I’d like that to stop. Your team doesn’t, nor does Notre Dame–and I respect that.

  29. westlaw1 says: Oct 18, 2012 6:26 PM

    @ mydixienormus

    For the B1G there are 8 schools with a winning record out of 12.

    For the PAC there are 6 schools with a winning record out of 12.

    For the SEC there are 8 schools with a winning record out of 12.

  30. papabush88 says: Oct 18, 2012 6:31 PM

    @westlaw1

    Fortunately for the B1G, they are the B1G. This means that there isn’t much competition within the conference. How has the B1G fared this year vs the Pac 12? Not so well. Heavily favored Wisconsin lost to Oregon State. Heavily favored Nebraska lost to UCLA. Heavily favored Ohio State came within a couple of points of losing to joke Cal @OSU.

    And the SEC plays more home games and more FCS opponent than any of the major conferences. That helps win games.

  31. suprmous says: Oct 18, 2012 6:53 PM

    Once again Miss Know it All doesn’t know it all. I happen to know that when my parents were in school (at respective universities in question) Bama DID have a tradition of playin Ga. How do I know because several folks met and later married and “blamed” it on the Tradition of the Bama Ga game. So pardon me if that doesn’t meet up to what your definition of tradition means. My dad has compared it to the Fl Fl State rivaly and tradition.

  32. BurkieInBoston says: Oct 18, 2012 6:59 PM

    YouDaMan Dixie! You freaking ball buster. Can’t wait to read through comments from Finebaum/Brando Nation

  33. papabush88 says: Oct 18, 2012 7:00 PM

    @suprmous

    I usually like what Deb, or as you called her “Miss Know it All,” has to say, but I also felt there was NO WAY in hell that Bama wouldn’t have SOME sort of rivalry with teams like Georgia, Florida, or South Carolina (especially the first two). I didn’t know for sure, seen as my entire family went to USC and only had one cousin go east of Arizona. And she went to LSU, but she was there for like a semester (thanks to Hurricane Katrina). Just seems nearly impossible for a storied program like Alabama not to have any kind of rivalry or bad blood with other storied programs like Florida and Georgia.

  34. westlaw1 says: Oct 18, 2012 7:06 PM

    @ papabush88

    8 Home Games = Arizona and Oregon St.

    7 Home Games = Cal, Colorado, Oregon, UCLA

    6 Home Games = Arizona St., Stanford, USC, Utah, Washington, Washington St.

    Does this fluctuate every year ?

  35. papabush88 says: Oct 18, 2012 7:23 PM

    @westlaw1

    I knew Oregon had a bunch of home games this year. Reason why they and Alabama should not be ranked #1. Doesn’t really fluctuate. Things might have changed a little with the inception of the Pac 12, but typically most Pac 12 teams play 6 home games. To be honest, I could care less about conference vs conference. I went to USC, not the University of the PAC 12. However, I think things are a little skewed when teams play a bunch of home games and a bunch of FCS opponents. USC plays 6 home games and has NEVER, in their entire history, scheduled a game against an FCS opponent (same with UCLA and Notre Dame).

  36. papabush88 says: Oct 18, 2012 7:24 PM

    couldn’t* care less

  37. rolltide510 says: Oct 18, 2012 7:41 PM

    Sorry guys, but Alabama’s rivals are auburn and Tennessee, and nobody else.

    Now, that’s not to say Georgia, Florida, LSU, and the other teams that Bama has traditionally stomped into oblivion for decades don’t consider us their rivals, but that’s on them, not us.

  38. westlaw1 says: Oct 18, 2012 7:47 PM

    Hmm.

    Looks like USC played 7 home games last year. In fact, only Washington St. scheduled exactly 6 home games for the 2011 and 2012 years. Everyone else in the league flips.

    Playing devils advocate it could be argued that:

    It could be argued that the PAC is just as conference-partisan as any other league. (i.e., Lets play each other and no one else. Lets keep the Rose Bowl elite, and keep out anyone else except those we like.)

    There is more than a evidence to suggest that the PAC schedule is based on economic principles more than competitive. Considering the breadth between the schools in the conference, there is a financial incentive to keep other travel limited. Furthermore, there is a considerable disadvantage to having to travel between west coast and east coast. (i.e, USC flying to play Syracuse in New York is impressive for the travel alone). In general, the PAC tends to play schools in their back yard only.

    I wonder…are there few FCS schools in the West?

  39. Deb says: Oct 18, 2012 8:43 PM

    @papabush88 …

    She calls me Miss Know It All because she comes to every Bama thread to rant bitterness at Alabama and our coach, and I defend my team. Defending your team is an unforgiveable crime on the football blogs. Once again, she is here, ranting that Alabama is doing the unthinkable and abandoning its traditions yada, yada, yada. Of course, none of that is true. None of her rants are ever true.

    It’s also not true that Alabama has ever had a significant football rivalry with Georgia. Auburn and Georgia have a long-standing rivalry. And as rolltide510 has posted, our long-standing traditional in-conference rivalries have been with Tennessee and Auburn. Since the SEC has expanded to 14 teams, ALL Western Division teams will have only TWO Eastern Division opponents from now on. Measures were taken to preserve Alabama’s TRADITIONAL rivalry with Tennessee precisely because it IS the only TRADITIONAL rivalry Alabama has other than Auburn. Alabama has not played Georgia since 2008.

    But since you prefer to take the word of someone who doesn’t know how her own conference divisions are scheduled rather than that of two lifelone Bama fans … be my guest.

  40. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Oct 18, 2012 9:57 PM

    @papabush88
    Now you’re just being silly! Why would SEC schools play more away games for when more of their fan base can attend home games easier.
    That just proves that SEC schools care more about their fans then other conference.

    @rolltide…
    When did LSU became a non-factor?

  41. Deb says: Oct 18, 2012 10:19 PM

    @thecrazyasian …

    LSU isn’t a nonfactor. Right now, it’s a much anticipated matchup. But it’s not one of Alabama’s traditional, long-standing rivalries.

    Just because matchups get heated when both teams are doing well–as Bama’s SEC Conference meetings with Florida did a couple of years ago and as some Bama/Georgia meetings may have once upon a time–doesn’t make those teams traditional rivals. It doesn’t have anything to do with not respecting our tough opponents.

  42. normtide says: Oct 18, 2012 10:34 PM

    The SEC makes the league schedule, in fact twice in the last ten years 7 of 8 league opponents played Bama after a bye week. Bama usually does not catch league schedule slack. Plus, lets wait and see, a few down SEC teams will be back up, and a few up teams will be down. I would not pencil any team into anything just yet. Still no telling what happens this year.

    Btw Ben, Mississippi State are bulldogs, so can’t really say “no bulldogs on schedule. But yes, I get what you mean.

  43. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Oct 18, 2012 10:40 PM

    @Deb
    You are correct LSU vs Bama is not a that traditional rivalry game, which I agree …
    I was asking rolltide about this statement ..

    “LSU and Arky sure looked good this offseason. Hard to predict they’d both be irrelevant this year. Don’t get me started on auburn”

  44. Deb says: Oct 18, 2012 10:48 PM

    @thecrazyasian …

    Should have known you had a handle on all this rivalry stuff LOL

    Didn’t even notice he’d included LSU there! No, can’t agree with rolltide510 on that. They could easily spoil our season. No, no, no. LSU is still dangerous, especially at home.

  45. bcgator02 says: Oct 19, 2012 1:56 AM

    And here I thought UGA always gets a schedule pass…at least Bama knows how to win the “easy” ones

  46. novoodoo4409 says: Oct 19, 2012 6:15 AM

    @ Deb – who appointed you judge and jury on opposing comments and views on your beloved rednecks aka the Bammy team in Tuskeyloser? You’re as credible as Saban saying he would not go to the NFL…both of you are a joke….

  47. foreverlsu says: Oct 19, 2012 11:33 AM

    SEC Commissioner and current Alabama AD, Mal Moore did a terrific job of making the 2013 SEC conference schedule as easy as possible for Alabama …once again. I guess there’s a reason the conference office in Birmingham is right next to the Paul Bear Bryant Museum.

    The fact of the matter is Alabama was scheduled to play Georgia in 2012 and in 2013 and LSU was scheduled to play Kentucky in those years before expansion. However, the Alabama AD could not have that and felt it would be much more “balanced” if LSU played Florida and South Carolina in 2012 and Florida and Georgia in 2013 while Alabama picked up Missouri and Kentucky.

    God forbid what would happen to the planet if Alabama and Tennessee could not meet on the third Saturday in October every year. When exactly was the last time this game actually relevant? Other barn burners that cannot be scrapped include Miss. State- Kentucky and Vandy-Ole Miss? Are you freaking kidding me?

    So in 2012, Alabama’s eastern opponents are Tennessee (0-4 in SEC play) and Missouri (0-4) and LSU’s eastern opponents are Florida (4-0) and South Carolina (4-0). In 2013 LSU will play Florida and Georgia (4-1) while Alabama will play lowly Tennessee and Kentucky (0-4). How’s that for balance?

    I can only imagine what the schedule will look like in 2014 when commissioner Mal Moore releases it next October.

    Blast away Bama fans but you cannot deny that this is an unbalanced schedule that heavily favors Alabama. I’m guessing the next time Alabama plays Florida will be in 2020 and maybe Georgia in 2022.

    The SEC needs to scrap the permanent opponents for competitive balance. Auburn-UGA and Alabama – Tennessee will be boring games once again this year.

  48. normtide says: Oct 19, 2012 11:47 AM

    Forever, you are an idiot

  49. foreverlsu says: Oct 19, 2012 11:56 AM

    normtide says:Oct 19, 2012 11:47 AM

    Forever, you are an idiot

    _______________

    Really? That’s the best you could come up with?

    Guess you couldn’t come up with any facts to dispute anything in my post.

  50. foreverlsu says: Oct 19, 2012 12:02 PM

    rolltide510 says:Oct 18, 2012 4:29 PM

    LSU and Arky sure looked good this offseason. Hard to predict they’d both be irrelevant this year.
    _________________

    You’re just full of intelligent posts today. We’ll see how relevant LSU is on Nov. 3 and you better hope LSU is relevant because that is the ONLY team on your pathetic schedule this year.

  51. Deb says: Oct 19, 2012 12:26 PM

    novoodoo4409 says:

    @ Deb – who appointed you judge and jury on opposing comments and views on your beloved rednecks aka the Bammy team in Tuskeyloser? You’re as credible as Saban saying he would not go to the NFL…both of you are a joke….

    ————————————————–

    Who appointed you, supermouse, and tlmoon2112, judge and jury on Alabama and Coach Saban? When did God decide your comments were sacrosanct and that no one is allowed to talk back?

    You’re a bunch of sanctimonious hyprocrites who can dish it the usual “Tuskeyloser,” “Redneck,” and “Nick Satan” garbage, plus endless references to teabaggers and tree poisoners (really creative :roll: ) … or GASP! in horror at any mention of Alabama in desperate hope that we’ve done the “unthinkable.” But when someone talks back you squeal like stuck piggies, calling names and demanding to know “How DARE you talk back to us? Who appointed YOU judge and jury?”

    It’s a football blog, baby. And I have just as much right to slam your inane comments as you have to slam my team. Suck it up, kid.

  52. foreverlsu says: Oct 19, 2012 12:34 PM

    Go Deb!

  53. normtide says: Oct 19, 2012 12:34 PM

    First, the Bryant museum is not in b’ham. Second, mike slive is commish of the SEC, and he is the best in the land, no doubt. Third, LSU always has a league scheduled bye week before they play Bama. Add I started before, twice on the last ten years, all but one league opponent had bye weeks before they played us. I understand you are afraid, but best not to let it show so much. Now, come back when you have facts, not paranoid delusions.

  54. Deb says: Oct 19, 2012 12:35 PM

    @foreverlsu …

    I don’t know what your problem is but the Third Saturday in October is a traditional rivalry for us originating in 1901. It was suspended for a while, but in its current state goes back decades. We’re not going to lose our traditional rival because it’s got YOUR nose out of joint. The SEC sets the in-conference schedule, not Mal Moore. I somehow doubt that LSU was overwrought about Alabama’s permanent opponent in the SEC East during those years that Tennessee was winning championships and Alabama wasn’t worth spit. But now it’s a BIG issue.

    If you have a problem with Alabama having a permanent opponent in the SEC East, then do what these other commenters have suggested: Write to Slive and push for a 9-game conference schedule. I’d be more than happy for Alabama to play Tennessee and TWO more eastern division opponents. In fact, I’d be thrilled. But you people need to stop spitting on our rivalries as though the traditions of DECADES were devised just to get an advantage over LSU.

  55. Deb says: Oct 19, 2012 12:36 PM

    See … now you say “Go Deb” and make me feel bad for jumping on you. Why are you yelling about our Tennessee game?

  56. foreverlsu says: Oct 19, 2012 12:45 PM

    I have no problem with Alabama playing Tennessee every year. Play it as a nonconference game in other years as you wrote.

    How often was Tennessee “winning championships” over Florida? My point is that there is no reason to maintain permanent opponents with expansion to 14 teams. It will now take 10 years to go through the Easter division because of permanent opponents.

    Countless letters have been written to Mike Slive and LSU AD Joe Alleva has requested the same numerous occasions but nothing has been done.

    The schedule comes out yesterday and LSU has to travel to UGA while Alabama plays UK. Even an Alabama fan like you has to admit the hipocracy of calling that a “balanced schedule” as Mark Womack did yesterday.

  57. foreverlsu says: Oct 19, 2012 12:52 PM

    normtide says:Oct 19, 2012 12:34 PM

    First, the Bryant museum is not in b’ham. Second, mike slive is commish of the SEC, and he is the best in the land, no doubt. Third, LSU always has a league scheduled bye week before they play Bama. Add I started before, twice on the last ten years, all but one league opponent had bye weeks before they played us. I understand you are afraid, but best not to let it show so much. Now, come back when you have facts, not paranoid delusions.
    ___________

    If Alabama and LSU’s schedules for 2013 were flipped, don’t freakin tell me there would not be any Alabama fans complaining about it.

  58. normtide says: Oct 19, 2012 1:04 PM

    Can you read? Bama always gets jobed on sched, now one time LSU has and the world ends? You have rivals, that’s what the game is about. Most LSU fans are not afraid, they take on all comers. Last year y’all bragged about how you’re not afraid to play tough games, this year you whine.

  59. normtide says: Oct 19, 2012 1:07 PM

    Deb- there was once talk of doing away with divisions, two best teams go to CCG and more team rotations. It seems that talk had cooled though.

  60. Deb says: Oct 19, 2012 1:13 PM

    @foreverlsu …

    When we added Mizzou and A&M, I was freaking out about the possibility of losing that Tennessee game because we look forward to it so much. That’s why I’m touchy about Tennessee. But, yes I agree you have a valid point.

    So you’re saying we could schedule Tennessee as an annual game on the Third Saturday in October, but it would count as a nonconference game? Then we’d still have to play two Eastern Division games in rotation like everyone else? That sounds fair.

    I’d rather play Florida, Georgia, or South Carolina next year than Kentucky. But we do still have several open dates, so maybe we’ll beef up our final schedule.

  61. foreverlsu says: Oct 19, 2012 1:20 PM

    Can I read? Can you spell? How does Bama “always gets jobed.” What do you mean by “jobed”? I would not expect you to have a problem with the schedule now that Bama only plays Florida or Georgia once over the next ten years.

    I loved LSU’s non-conference schedule in 2011 but winning a CONFERENCE title should not be stacked the way these schedules are laid out.

    Bama fans whining about the byes in 2010 was NOTHING compared to this garbage schedule and you know it.

  62. normtide says: Oct 19, 2012 1:29 PM

    Please, read more. The rotating teams won’t be playing home and home series anymore. Teams will rotate every year, not every two years. I know you won’t miss a chance to cry, but you don’t know what you are talking about, “once every ten years”. Look at the past, read about future plans. Lsu fans don’t have a reason to complain, not like you have not had success. There is still a chance that we drop divisions, set 4 RIVALRY games, and rotate 4 teams every year. Then you can find some other reason to bitch and moan. But, you can never talk about how LSU fears no one, other fans can, but not you.

  63. foreverlsu says: Oct 19, 2012 3:03 PM

    Dropping divisions? What planet are you on? Do you realize there would be no SEC championship game if that would occur? Never gonna happen.

    “Please read more” – Why don’t you provide a link for me to follow this ridiculous logic, smart guy?

    So I’ll ask again (since you read so well). You’re telling me Alabama fans would not complain if the 2013 schedules for LSU and Alabama were flipped?

  64. hrudey says: Oct 19, 2012 3:04 PM

    @papabush88: “And if you agree with an opinion that a conference like the SEC should not schedule FCS opponents, then how can you not agree with a fact that the SEC schedules more FCS opponents than any other major conference in FBS? It’s a fact.”

    Right, except of course for 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008 and 2007, none of which has the SEC listed as playing the most FCS opponents among the AQ conferences. You’re more than welcome to whatever opinion you wish to have, but this is not a political discussion so please only refer to things that are actually true as being facts.

  65. papabush88 says: Oct 19, 2012 3:26 PM

    @hrudey

    You left out the most important year: 2012. That’s what I call a political move…looking only at the facts that you benefit your argument. And your facts are irrelevant. No one cares about last year or 2007 for that matter.

    In 2012, the SEC plays the most FCS opponents of any power conference

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=mh-huguenin_college_football_schedule_overview_040912

  66. normtide says: Oct 19, 2012 3:28 PM

    OK, read this then, slowly. The sec was talking to the NCAA about dropping the division rule, each team would have 4 rival teams they play each year, the other 4 would be rotating teams. The two teams with the best record would play in the CCG. This requires the NCAA to change its division rule. The league says, or said at one time, that it would fit a 14 or 16 team league better.

    Read this slowly, Bama has got the short end of the stick many times before. And yes, people will always complain about something. But, you can’t brag about how LSU plays a tough schedule last year, then cry about next years being tough, pick a side.

  67. hrudey says: Oct 19, 2012 3:39 PM

    Nice try, but you didn’t say that “In 2012 (or for 2012), the SEC has scheduled the most FCS opponents.” You said that the “SEC schedules” more FCS schools, which implies an ongoing trend, rather than something that is true exactly once in a six season period.

    Furthermore, one could easily point out that even based solely on 2012, the ACC still has a higher number of FCS games per conference member (13 for 12 teams vs. 15 for 14). Or by parsing your words more precisely, one could easily point out that the one FCS game by Missouri and two by Texas A&M were hardly “scheduled” by SEC teams, but were scheduled while the schools were members of the Big XII-XI-X.

    But there’s no need to nitpick why you are wrong; it’s a simple thing. When you have seven data points, six of which say one thing and then one says the other, the person who claims that the outlier is the trend and the other six are irrelevant is the one selectively filtering the data to advance an agenda. But I commend you on your cherry picking and I am certain you’ll make a delicious pie!

  68. hrudey says: Oct 19, 2012 3:41 PM

    (oh, and to save you the trouble, replace “seven” data points with “six” and “six” with “five” – the point is still valid, but I hate leaving even a minor inaccuracy like that.)

  69. papabush88 says: Oct 19, 2012 3:56 PM

    @hrudey

    Scheduling ANY FCS opponents is abhorrent, especially for a conference to claim how great it is. I didn’t realize I was writing a thesis or an essay on the subject. Dock me a grade for not mentioning “2012.” Thought it was implied. I don’t give a hoot about 2007.

    I also don’t really recognize the ACC as a power conference, even though they are.

    My school, USC, has NEVER scheduled an FCS opponent. UCLA and Notre Dame are the only other two that have also not scheduled an FCS opponent. These two programs are USC’s biggest rivals, but I deeply respect them for not scheduling a game against a pop warner team.

  70. Deb says: Oct 19, 2012 4:33 PM

    @hrudey …

    Thank you. That explains why I’ve checked and found the SEC hasn’t scheduled anymore FCS opponents than the other conferences in recent years, yet papabush88 continued to insist we scheduled more than anyone else. It’s not enough to agree with him that it’s improper for any school to schedule an FCS opponent. It’s not enough to compliment his school for not scheduling an FCS opponent. He won’t be happy unless we denigrate our on conference and say his program is the best and the classiest ever.

    USC is a great program. Pity papabush88 hasn’t shown more class on this thread.

  71. hrudey says: Oct 19, 2012 4:37 PM

    And if you would have just said that as your opinion and not browbeat how it’s a “fact” that the SEC schedules more FCS schools than the other big conferences, we both would have saved about 10 minutes that produced very little. ;)

    Before getting into some actual constructiveness, though, I don’t think that that the SEC teams schedule FCS opponents to claim how great the conference or team are. I’ve never once heard an SEC fan (or any other major conference fans, for that matter) brag about how they beat up on Northwestern State or Furman or the like. Do you hear more about the SEC’s six straight BCS titles or their dominance of the Sun Belt (not FCS, but the same idea)?

    Now, I hate the FCS schedules myself. I know the financial reasons for it (at least for Florida) – with the SEC schedule plus Florida State, the Gators have had consistently 4 home games, 4 road games and a neutral site game. The only way to get 7 home games that they base the budget on is to bring in three teams that won’t insist on a return match – and usually one of them is Senior Day before FSU, which narrows the field considerably. When there’s a stadium that seats in the 90 thousand range that is consistently full, there’s a lot of financial pressure to make sure there’s seven games. More credit to USC for finding away around that – I don’t pretend to know how full it is generally, but glancing at 2011′s attendance at least, they pulled in over 90k for Stanford and averaged probably mid 60k range for the others.

    But let’s face it: USC, Alabama, the The Ohio State University football institution, any of the Big Boy type of schools should pretty well comfortably win a home game whether they’re playing an FCS team or the dregs of the Sun Belt or WAC. Nobody hangs their hats on those games – the bottom of the schedule is about filling up the bottom of the wallet, not for chest thumping.

    Unfortunately, the NCAA football economic model doesn’t work the same as basketball – it costs a ton of money to get teams out to games, the revenue from a single game is massive, and the number of opportunities to play games is just too few to play four non-conference home and homes, for example. Really, the only solution I can come up with off hand is a special 13th game that can only be used for inter-regional games that are either home and home or at worst true neutral sites. But even that has holes – I don’t want to see Florida playing Washington State or the The Ohio State University football institution playing UMass or the like.

  72. papabush88 says: Oct 19, 2012 4:57 PM

    THIS year, Deb and hrudey. THIS YEAR. SEC tends to be at the top towards the top in terms of scheduling the most FCS opponents. And this year, they are #1 in most FCS opponents scheduled. I’d expect this from B1G or ACC, but not the SEC. I don’t need to be told which program is the best. I already know.

    hrudey: I never said (at least I didn’t mean to say) that the SEC fans/programs are stoked for FCS games. SEC has, without a doubt, maybe the best fanbase of any conference. In terms of tailgating, USC (not S. Car) and Florida at tops of tailgating. Then it’s not even close…the SEC basically dominates the rest of that. Maybe throw in Washington…maybe. My point about the FCS opponents is that those games are basically automatic wins. I understand that it is an economic move. But some schools are actually trying to challenge themselves by not stuffing their schedules with FCS teams. However, there are schools out there that are title contenders and they are stuffing their schedules with non-conference powerhouses. Props to Bama for scheduling Michigan, although, we all basically knew (or should have known) that Michigan and Denard Robinson are a joke…along with the B1G.
    I’m not going to sit here and tell you that Hawaii and Syracuse are powerhouses in CFB. What I will say is that this game with Hawaii was scheduled years ago after Hawaii had that fantastic season and went to (I think) the Sugar Bowl. USC saw that June Jones was building something interesting in Hawaii, and wanted to schedule a series with them. However, little did USC know, June Jones would soon leave for SMU.

    Same with our 2017-18 home and home series with Texas. This was scheduled around the time Texas played Bama in the BCS champ game. Who knows? Maybe Texas will suck in 2017. Maybe they will be No. 1. What we do know for sure is thatUT-Chattanooga isn’t going to be a BCS team in 2013.

    In 2004, USC opened the season with Va Tech. USC beat Va Tech. Va Tech ended up wining their conference. Imagine if USC dropped that game? It was no easy non-conference game. Va Tech isn’t an FCS school. They are pretty highly respected. USC could’ve lost and would’ve cost them a national championship, when they were clearly the best team in the nation that year. Could’ve just scheduled an FCS opponent and guaranteed a win.

    Also in 2006…USC’s first two games were non-conf ones against Arkansas and Nebraska. Nebraska was ranked 19th. Arkansas ended up winning the SEC West. Another two teams that were solid opponents.

    So, I definitely don’t think SEC fans are stoked about playing FCS teams. However, it helps adding an extra few wins, among other things.

  73. Deb says: Oct 19, 2012 5:20 PM

    @papabush88 …

    Well, you didn’t say either “this year” or “tends to be” in our earlier discussion. As I’ve said, I don’t like scheduling FCS teams–although hrudey has provided insight into the financial motivations behind scheduling. When it comes to the dollars and cents, I’m much more knowledgeable about the NFL.

    However, I’m more receptive to any discussion–even when I disagree–when I’m treated respectfully. I always try to be accurate in my comments, and freely own it when I screw up–which has happened many times. Considering how often we’ve interacted, I’d expect you to give me the benefit of the doubt on something as simple as Alabama’s traditional rivalries rather than joining the shrieking hate ranter who’s calling me names and doesn’t even know how in-conference games are scheduled. I’m sure if the subject were USC history and the situations were reversed, you’d feel the same.

  74. papabush88 says: Oct 19, 2012 5:30 PM

    @Deb

    Never joined the Deb-haters. I even made a point about saying that I enjoy your comments. Look above and see it. You ARE usually very fair and have good things to contribute. However, I just felt that a program like Alabama, with its rich history, HAS to have some sort of rivalry with an SEC east program. And if it doesn’t, then maybe Alabama isn’t as great as I thought it once was. USC and Washington have some great tradition with each other. Washington is the second best Pac team, traditionally speaking.

  75. Deb says: Oct 19, 2012 5:43 PM

    papabush88 …

    Tennessee! That’s our traditional rival in the SEC East! That rivalry started in 1901, suspended for a while, then was reinstated. Bear hated Tennessee more than Auburn. He thought of Auburn as an old cow town (his words, not mine). But he hated Tennessee. It meant a lot to him to beat the Vols because he respected Gen. Neyland.

  76. papabush88 says: Oct 19, 2012 5:51 PM

    @Deb

    And nothing with Georgia?

    I’ll take your word for it. Just seems so odd to me. I feel like USC is THE team on the west coast. Notre Dame is THE team in mid west and Alabama is THE team in the South/East. USC has a bunch of rivals. Stanford, UCLA, ND, Washington, Cal.

    Notre Dame isn’t in a conference but they have many rivalries as well.

    And for Alabama to be in the SEC and have ONLY one rivalry in the SEC east, is crazy to me.

    But, as I said, I will take your word for it

  77. Deb says: Oct 19, 2012 6:43 PM

    @papabush88 …

    Well, you can take my word, or rolltide510′s, or normtide’s. You can go the the Alabama Crimson Tide page on wikipedia, which includes LSU as a rival–but admits that series has only been particularly heated since 2007 when Saban started coaching the Tide. Alabama didn’t lose to LSU from 1969-2000. Doesn’t make for much of a contest.

    You can check out this article from the Chattanooga Times on the efforts made to preserve the longstanding cross-division rivalries between Alabama/UT and Auburn/Georgia:

    http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/jun/02/sec-keeps-cross-division-rivalries/

    No mention there of rivalries between Alabama and Georgia, Florida, or South Carolina.

    You can check out this or one of the many other articles appearing this weekend on the LONG history of the Alabama/Tennessee rivalry:

    http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2012/10/17/2243408/alabama-football-importance-of.html

    I assume it’s not necessary to post similar substantiation of the Alabama/Auburn rivalry. But it does seem a little silly to leap like a bullfrog to take the word of a nonfan who virtually never posts an accurate coherent comment … and to still sound doubtful. But whatever …

    And I never said Alabama had no other rivalries. The discussion was about Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina–the SEC East–not the whole of college football. Alabama has had historic rivalries with Penn State and Notre Dame, just to name two out-of-conference opponents.

  78. gamustangdude says: Oct 19, 2012 6:50 PM

    You have to love all the SEC Haters gnawing at another opportunity to poke holes at the SEC and it’s scheduling. FYI, SEC Schools have ZERO control over their SEC Schedules, they have say in their OOC Schedules but not in conference Schedules. SEC East And West teams will play against every team in their division and will rotate one opponent from the other division, used to be two until Texas A&M and Mizzou joined, however most SEC rivalry games will not rotate. i.e. UGA versus Auburn, Alabama versus Tenn, etc. Last Year I remember Mizzou fans screaming how the SEC is not the different then the Big 12 how they were going to place third or second in the SEC East this year, however Mizzou is 0-4 against SEC teams.

  79. Deb says: Oct 19, 2012 11:18 PM

    Censoring posts now, CFT? I notice you leave up comments where people how horrible it must be to be married to me or and comments about my sex life. But you take down a post where I provide papabush88 background on the Tennessee/Alabama rivalry he still seems uncertain about and explain that Alabama also has had out-of-conference rivalries with Penn State and Notre Dame. Not that I haven’t known it for some time now, but my, what hypocrites you are.

  80. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Oct 20, 2012 1:17 AM

    @Deb. @suprmous. @rolltide.
    @Southernpatriots. @foreverlsu. @Tigersgeaux. @normtide. @florida.
    @ All y’all crazy SEC fans that I forgot to mentioned above….
    I love all your guys!!! I know it’s about to get excited in here when the Claws are out, and the dogs are loose, and the trunks a’ rolling because that means football season IS REALLY on now!!!
    I even love you too papaknuckleheadbush!

  81. normtide says: Oct 20, 2012 1:40 AM

    Yea, I reckon it is getting good, crazyasinincajun.

  82. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Oct 20, 2012 2:46 AM

    @normtide
    Hahaha!!! You’re the second person to call me that, I love it!!!
    I don’t care who LSU plays or not play and I can definitely careless about the Tides’ scheduled… Just as long as LSU goes undefeated or lose to a #1 team early in the season and sneak back in NCCG! That’s all I care about.
    And I also care to hit the lottery one day that would be nice also, and if I hit the lottery I’ll have to give half to LSU so they can build the best football training facility anywhere in the world.

  83. suprmous says: Oct 20, 2012 3:39 AM

    Well Miss Know it All, I’d love for you to let me make you an appt with my dad so you can have the pleasure of tellin him to his face that his alma mater and my mom’s alma mater have never had a tradition of playin. And when you walk away with you tail tucked between your holier than thou legs maybe just maybe you’ll find a hole to fall into and pull it in after you. As for me I’ll be sittin back enjoyin the Stumped the One Who Knows it All and wonder how you’ll shine your face again after my dad’s successfully humiliated you to no end.

    And your sayin I go on Every Bama thread’s still a lie. So Missy, sounds as if you once again don’t know it all.

  84. suprmous says: Oct 20, 2012 4:00 AM

    Shrieking hate ranter who’s calling me names — And never once has the “shrieking hate ranter” been referred to as a witch or a cow by you? Comin across as innocent now are you?

    As for knowin how the in-Conference Games are scheduled, pas shauah. I don’t need a flow chart or breakdown.

  85. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Oct 20, 2012 4:59 AM

    @suprmous and @Deb….
    I don’t know the history between your two, I’m guessing that your two ladies are probably not best friend.
    … I’ll stick my little flat nose in your business just this once and won’t do it again.. SO….
    … I’m thinking, suprmous, that you are a very sweet person, who’s very passionate about the GREATEST and BEST TEAM EVER, THE LSU TIGEAUXS, I’m assuming,from reading all your past post, that you’re a good and kind person, with a good heart.
    … I don’t know what Deb has done, or not done to you, but I say let’s by-gone be by-gone… There are just too much about College Football for two intelligent woman to disagree on, especially when both of you can be correct…. A game and its experience for one person can mean one thing, while that same game can most definitely mean another thing altogether for some else, that’s the awesome thing about SEC football.
    Because of Georgia vs Alabama your parents got together, and for them this match-up have that special added tradition and rivalry, even though it may not have a long history like Bama vs Tenn (1901), but none the less, it’s very important to you and your folks and thousands more. That is what I call special.
    .:: and Deb, you and I have converse many times, never once were you ever disrespectful, or jealous, of me just because I’m an LSU fan.. You are very inform about all aspects of your two favorite teams, the Tides and the Steelers. Reading your’s and suprmous’ I have learned a lot about why SEC football is so special. Even though we have never met, Deb, I too assume that you are a very nice and friendly person, well educated, and have a very strong personality. You never once had a problem with admitting your mistake once proven wrong, and likewise, you will defend your position like a Matador when you know you are right.
    … Basically all I’m saying is that your are to good to be bickering over these frivolous and trivial comments your making towards each other.
    … With that said, I will mind my own business from now on and not comment on this again. Lets Geaux Tigers!!! And God Bless!!!

  86. papabush88 says: Oct 20, 2012 9:23 AM

    Haha. Anyone else think that last comment by thecrazyasianinseccountry is more deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize than Obama was a few years ago?

    Can’t we all just get along?

    @Deb

    So did CFT take down another comment of you explaining the Bama Tennessee rivalry? Really interested in knowing about that as well as if there was anything ever between Bama and Georgia

  87. normtide says: Oct 20, 2012 11:07 AM

    Bama vs UGA has never been a rivalry, at least not on my lifetime. When they play it is intense, but all big time SEC games are. In fact, it has been said, that both teams share a war on orange (both teams are huge rivals with both Auburn and UT).

  88. Deb says: Oct 20, 2012 12:55 PM

    @papabush88 …

    You still seemed doubtful, so I posted a couple of links for you about our traditional rivalries with Auburn and Tennessee … none of which mentioned Georgia LOL And since you’d mentioned SC’s out-of-conference rivalries, I noted that we’d been talking about the SEC East, but that Bama has had famous traditional rivalries with Notre Dame and Penn State.

    Why they found that soooo threatening I’ll never know. None of the links came from ESPN ;) But they always let slide when people are shrieking at me or (as on other threads) waxing not-so-eloquent about my sex life. Thus my comment about their hypocrisy. Guess I should have let their ever-present double-standard slide, but … I’m human.

  89. Deb says: Oct 20, 2012 1:16 PM

    @thecrazyasian …

    I just LOVE YOU TO DEATH!! This dates back to a ridiculous catfight from almost a year ago. After that, I repeatedly tried to make nice with suprmous (and I can provide the links), but she refused all overtures and has gone out of her way to post some really vicious things to me about how I am the most hate person in the history of football blogs. Although I’ve asked her to just leave me alone, she continues to make what she thinks are subtle digs to me–the “one” who thinks she is “holier than thou,” etc. in almost all of her posts.

    Although she supposedly has some long history with Alabama, she comes onto nearly every Bama thread to slam the coach, the team, to lecture us about how we’ve lost our moral compass because we didn’t know Bear like she knew Bear, and to get giddly like a schoolgirl at the prospect that Alabama might have done something “unthinkable.”

    If I respond to the content of her post–even without saying anything insulting to her, I am “Miss Know It All” simply because a) I defend my team, b) post the facts, and c) do not choose to drop all my g’s in a bizarre effort to sound like Br’er Rabbit.

    I haven’t read her latest diatribes here. But you know I have never gone to an LSU thread and slammed LSU just for the fun of it. In fact, I’ve done just the opposite.

  90. suprmous says: Oct 20, 2012 2:36 PM

    papabush, upon findin my post re the “tradition” of the Bama Ga game I was informed I was indeed correct and this was done by an outside party who has no ties to me what so ever. They explained as this: “in the early days when there was no re-alignment within the Conference the Bear and Vince Dooley alternated playing what was to be later known as one of the traditional games of our day. It got to be where the 2 respective leaders would all but come out at one another off the field with discouraging remarks just to light a fire underneath the opposing coach to get the game more interesting.” The person went onto say that in today’s game it’s nothing like it was in our day. They added that if anyone thinks any different they’re either to old to remember or they’re too young to know.

    So now I guess it’s up to whoever to either take their medicine and live with it or ask somebody the age of my dad and his group.

  91. Deb says: Oct 20, 2012 2:57 PM

    Yes, suprmous, I should take my medicine because none of the written sources on Alabama are correct, but person gave you the straight scoop and that settles the matter. Of course, neither I nor any of the other Alabama fans here know people connected with the school or the team who are in their 80s or who knew Bear Bryant. Again, you are the only person in the world who met Bear, or knows people who worked with Bear, coached with Bear, played for Bear … or were affiliated with Alabama before Bear. You, alone, are the keeper of the flame for Alabama.

    Sigh.

  92. suprmous says: Oct 20, 2012 3:00 PM

    So now I sound like Br’er Rabbit. Well Damned Yankee, I guess my Southern will just have to clash with your snootiness. I write (in casual) as I hear it. But don’t sweat one day maybe you’ll find you’re not perfect. And by the way, you ab so tude ly, are showin the definition ofshe comes onto nearly every Bama thread to slam the coach, the team, to lecture us about rude when you call folks names, i.e. witch, cow, etc. You once jumped up in one of your own “hissy fits” sayin how some thought you should be raped on a urnine soaked floor. I felt bad for you then not because it was personally you but that a guy would tell a female that. As for my diatribes, you do have the ability to overlook my posts so don’t go there with explainin how you haven’t read em. I’d be willin to bet you’ve read every one of em and just don’t want to admit to it.

    “she comes onto nearly every Bama thread”, big difference from your earlier sayin I go on every Bama thread. Supposedly I don’t have any of my facts right but yet “has some long history with Alabama”. “I’ve asked her to just leave me alone, she continues to make what she thinks are subtle digs to me–the “one” who thinks she is “holier than thou,” etc. in almost all of her posts.”

    And why didn’t you tell crazyasian about how you lit into a l’il ole lady (who just happens to be a friend of mine and proud of it) by the name of ladyhuckleberry? My my and to spit out all the other things and avoid tellin him why I really came at you durin that “catfight”. Guess it’s more conveinent to tell of a l’il of somethin than not at all, huh?

    If you want folks to leave you alone, think about how you go after them, stop havin your own “hissy fits” if someone has somethin nice to say about some you don’t care for, Gawd have mercy I could go on but for the sake of argument I’ll just ease on outa here.

  93. normtide says: Oct 20, 2012 3:05 PM

    I am 35 and some of my earliest memories are watching the games or listening to them on the radio. From way back before expansion. Sorry, but I don’t remember a huge yearly rivalry with Georgia. I am sure you can go back to a time when they were. Hell, Georgia Tech was in the league long ago, and they had rivals in it. I am not saying your dad is wrong, and I won’t suggest he needs his medication, but if they were big rivals, that was in his time not ours. In fact, Bama and UGA fans are usual quite cordial. Tennessee on the other hand, has always been a giant rivalry, at times matching the iron bowl intensity.

  94. suprmous says: Oct 20, 2012 3:11 PM

    Hey Deb, guess what my dad’s only in his late 70s and won’t turn 80 till later,lol.

  95. suprmous says: Oct 20, 2012 3:13 PM

    Hey Deb, guess what my dad’s only in his late 70s and won’t turn 80 till later,lol. And no Miss Smartass, I didn’t get to be the only one who ever was graced off the field by the Bear’s appearance. So stick it …………………

  96. suprmous says: Oct 20, 2012 3:15 PM

    normtide, at 35 you’re still growin into a man.

  97. Deb says: Oct 20, 2012 3:50 PM

    Hey, suprmous, guess what?

    I. Don’t. Care.

    Alabama’s rivalry with Tennessee is dubbed the Third Saturday in October. It originated in 1901, was suspended briefly during World War II, and is the stuff of long, storied history.

    Alabama’s rivalry with Auburn meets annually in the Iron Bowl. It originated in 1893 and is considered one of the most important rivarlies in American sports.

    I have no doubt that at one time, when both were doing well, Alabama and Georgia were competitive rivals … just as Alabama and LSU are today. That does not make those games HISTORIC TRADITIONAL RIVALRIES no matter how much you rant otherwise. All I did was point out that we don’t have HISTORIC TRADITIONAL RIVALRIES with those schools and that Alabama didn’t do anything “unthinkable,” despite your salivating.

    I am Southern. Not all of us think it’s necessary to prove it by writing every post in a godawful imitation of the dialect Margaret Mitchell used for her Mammy character.

  98. suprmous says: Oct 20, 2012 5:56 PM

    You’re about as Southern as California’s on the East Coast: Southerners as a rule don’t flaunt their ignorance by calling others names as what you’ve done and them be unfounded. Now take your own damned advice and leave me and what I have to say alone. Oh when you said you didn’t care, thanks for bein a fan of mine: I said that to you several posts ago.

  99. joliver61 says: Oct 21, 2012 2:04 PM

    To those posters who say the SEC should play 9 conference games instead of 8, they will, in 2014. they said they tried to make that change for 2013, but was unable to handle the logistics. I do agree that is certainly seems unbalanced in favor of Bama next year (as if they need any help), considering the SEC East teams they will play compared to the other likely contenders in the SEC West. Hopefully things will become more balanced in 2014 when the SEC moves to a 9 conf game schedule.
    To the posters criticizing the SEC (and other major programs) for scheduling FCS opponents, I remind you that those FCS teams earn enough money in game-payouts to fund their entire schools athletic department by scheduling those games. (for example, I read that Idaho was paid over $900,000 for the game against LSU this year). Even with the FCS teams on the SEC teams’ schedule, many (but not all) SEC teams still typically rank high in the overall Strength of Schedule poll annually, simply based on the upper end SEC opponents they all have. Bama faced Michigan this year, who was in a BCS bowl last year. LSU opened with Oregon last year, who was in the NCG the year before. Yes, the SEC may have FCS teams on their schedules, but there are also numerous examples of marquee games against quality OOC opponents. Maybe this will be the year someone other than a SEC team wins the NCG (Oregon, K State, and even ND look good), but it sure looks likely at least one SEC team will be there.

  100. slk018 says: Oct 22, 2012 1:56 PM

    Maybe they should just play Ohio State’s schedule or a big east sched, or an ACC, sched, or a big 12 sched.

    That way their in conference games will all be against shit teams, unless someone like K State is randomly good again.

    Playing Miss State, and LSU is more than USC, Oregon, FSU, or Ohio State do every year!

  101. slk018 says: Oct 22, 2012 1:58 PM

    @papabush

    You might as well schedule FCS teams…Hell FCS teams in the South are the same or better than the shit in the pac 12. LOL..Ask Michigan about playing FCS teams haha

  102. papabush88 says: Oct 22, 2012 3:26 PM

    @slk018

    What southern FCS teams beat the Pac 12 this year? I know Oregon blew out Tennessee Tech.

    I will agree with you that there are definitely FCS teams out there better than Colorado. Colorado is a newbie in the PAC. Not happy that they joined. Was hoping for Oklahoma and Texas, not Utah and Colorado.

    Of course Michigan lost to an FCS team (recently). They’re in the B1G, the most overrated conference in CFB. I laughed at their preseason ranking this year. Alabama’s win over Michigan was about as impressive as USC’s win over Cal.

  103. Deb says: Oct 22, 2012 3:47 PM

    @papabush88 …

    Everyone keeps saying Michigan’s preseason ranking was a laugh. But they were 11-2 last year, winning their bowl game. Their only losses this year have been to the top-ranked Tide and a close loss to an undefeated Notre Dame. Aren’t you being a little hard on them?

  104. papabush88 says: Oct 22, 2012 4:01 PM

    @DEb

    Absolutely not. And I’m equally hard on Arkansas. I was actually really hoping to see a good Arkansas team. Thought their offense had some potential…their coach did not.

    Truthfully, I think Alabama is very good this year. But Florida should be consensus #1.

    The B1G is awful. Michigan was 11-2 last year because the B1G was terrible (and still is). When your best player is extremely inconsistent and highly prone to turnovers (Denard Robinson), your team is in trouble.

  105. Deb says: Oct 22, 2012 4:36 PM

    Arkansas is a sad situation. It’s always sad when kids work hard and some off-field nonsense rips the team apart. Bobby Petrino should be horse-whipped. If none of that had happened and Petrino were still at the helm, I think Arkansas would still be a serious contender. When the impact Sean Payton’s loss had on the Saints’ first few games–and they have one of the league’s smartest field generals in Brees–it’s not surprising a bunch of college kids would go to pieces losing their coach so close to opening day.

    If Alabama and Florida make it to the SEC Championship, we’ll find out which is the better team :)

  106. sassysooner says: Oct 24, 2012 9:38 AM

    General comment: The comment that was made 1,000 posts back about “We may be Georgia’s rival but they are not ours. (Bama)” makes perfect sense and shouldn’t be cause for a shouting match and the whole off-with-her-head business. Oklahoma State loathes the fact that we are their #1 rival and yet Texas is OU’s #1 rival.

    My sister in law is an LSU fan (dinner convo is as pretty as you could imagine! lol) and I have learned a bit about SEC rivalries, I believe. Tell me if I have this right: Alabama v TN, LSU v Florida, Georgia v SC, Auburn v Clemson

    As for A&M and Mizzou?? Sorry ’bout that! But you can keep em! ;)

    P.S. Ask any man on this board, there is NOTHING sexier than women who know their sports! (I’m looking at Deb and suprmous) :)

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