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Notre Dame, Oregon flip in latest BCS standings

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If you’re not used to it by now, get used to it. Until someone topples No. 1 Alabama, college football is going to be the Tide’s world with everyone else playing in it.

As of the end of Week 10 in the 2012 season, there are three other undefeated football teams playing for the chance for a spot in the BCS championship game.

The Tide, as we’ve mentioned, remained No. 1 and now has the highest-rated computer average to go along with it. Kansas State stays at No. 2, but Oregon has leapfrogged Notre Dame to reclaim the No. 3 spot after a shootout win against USC while the Irish struggled to hold off Pitt in overtime.

This is the fate for Notre Dame if all things ahead of them stay as is. While there’s no disputing the quality wins against Oklahoma and Stanford, Notre Dame’s computer average slipped to No. 2 this week and the Irish have the weakest remaining schedule (Boston College, Wake Forest, USC) among the four unbeaten teams vying for a BCS championship spot. We’ve said it before, but it warrants repeating one more time: Notre Dame needs help to move up the BCS standings from here on out.

Likewise, Oregon still has some ground to cover to catch K-State in the overall computer rankings. However, the Ducks are the clear No. 2 among voters and have a strong final stretch of games (Cal, Stanford and Oregon State) that could give them a boost to jump up one more spot before the season is done. Certainly, the battle between K-State and Oregon in the BCS standings to end the year will be one of the most fascinating to watch.

The SEC has three teams at spots five through eight with Georgia, Florida, LSU and South Carolina. Big East representative Louisville, also undefeated but unlikely to get to the BCS championship, comes in at No. 9 and Florida State rounds out the top 10.

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34 Responses to “Notre Dame, Oregon flip in latest BCS standings”
  1. tpa43 says: Nov 4, 2012 8:49 PM

    Serious question here. Being that the Big East is nowhere as strong as other conferences, why are their a couple teams ranked? Don’t they have to play against formidable opponents?

  2. wphood says: Nov 4, 2012 9:12 PM

    “Certainly, the battle between K-State and Oregon to end out the year will be one of the most fascinating to watch.”

    That would be the battle between Oregon State and Oregon to end out the year unless a) either the Ducks and/or Wildcats have jumped conferences mid-season, or b) the BCS has switched to a play-off system.

  3. kiopta1 says: Nov 4, 2012 9:25 PM

    @wphood

    They are talking about the BCS standings battle.

  4. pudgalvin says: Nov 4, 2012 9:26 PM

    It’s strange to me that people are talking about how Oregon is playing the toughest part of their schedule right now with USC, Stanford and Oregon State coming up, which gives them the edge over Notre Dame. Well, Notre Dame already beat Stanford and they’ll play USC, plus they’ve got a third good win over Oklahoma. So if they both end up undefeated, Oregon will play in the championship game because people thought they’d be better before either team had played a game.

    I’d still love to see an Oregon/Bama title game, but I will not miss the BCS.

  5. kiopta1 says: Nov 4, 2012 9:34 PM

    I really feel that when all is said and done we will have an undefeated #1 team called the Nat Champ and an undefeated #2 team who will be nothing although they passed every test thrown at them but the media love test.

  6. duklover says: Nov 4, 2012 9:56 PM

    If Oregon, Kansas State and Notre Dame all go undefeated, Notre Dame will play in the BCS, it’s all about money.

  7. irishdodger says: Nov 4, 2012 10:27 PM

    @duklover:

    Stop w/ the conspiracy theory. If the Ducks win out they’ll play Alabama in the NC game. This isn’t. 1946, 1966 or 1977…there’s just as much, probably more, hate for ND as love. The only reason the media hypes them is that it gets fans like u in a pissing contest w/ ND fans. Don’t fall for it, your Ducks will be fine IF they win out. ESPNs dream matchup was USC vs Bama but since SC choked, they are hyping the Ducks…not that it’s not deserved but u can tell when EVERY talking head spews the same line about Oregon’s D: “this is he best D that Nick Aliotti (sp?) has had since he’s been DC”. As if saying over & over will make it so. Maybe it is a great D…I hope it is if u plan on competing w/ Bama. It wasn’t impressive against USC.

  8. kiopta1 says: Nov 4, 2012 10:32 PM

    IMO Ore has the best O. Ala and ND have the best D. KSU falls in the middle of it all…but they drop far without Klein. Ala has a powerful O and ND could have great O if EG played at peak level consistently. I would just love to see these team face off in a playoff.

  9. killertech9 says: Nov 4, 2012 10:34 PM

    wouldnt you drop lsu more and move florida state up .

  10. barbeaux says: Nov 4, 2012 10:51 PM

    In the end Oregon will get a boost due to its PAC championship game. ND and K-State won’t be getting that same boost.

  11. txnative61 says: Nov 5, 2012 12:08 AM

    After watching Bama’s emotional, come from behind victory at LSU, and Texas A&M take charge of Mississippi State, I’m thinking the Tide better refocus quickly this week, or the “other three” could be the only three undefeated’s. With a new coach the Aggies have only lost to LSU and Florida, and are better than they were in the Big 12, and improving every week. I also think the Trojans offense looked good against Oregon, and will expose Notre Dame D. Anybody for a Kansas State vs Oregon NC??

  12. normswifevera says: Nov 5, 2012 12:17 AM

    Notre Dame needs both Kansas State and Oregon to lose. They aren’t leapfrogging anybody.

    If Kansas State and Oregon win out, Oregon really needs ND to lose. Oregon has to make up ground in the computers and ND is ahead of them. Just like in the human polls, if a team ahead of you loses, you’ll automatically move up. So that’d really help Oregon’s cause if ND was no longer in their way.

    The way things stand now, Oregon’s upcoming schedule does not give them any big advantage over Kansas State. If you look at the BSC averages for each team’s next 3 opponents, Kansas State’s opponents average out better. And Oregon’s average will actually get dragged down by the Pac 12 title game. Worse yet, it’s possible a one-loss team like LSU could end up passing Oregon in some computers. So they need help.

    What would really help Oregon would be if they became a mostly unanimous #2 in the Coaches poll. But I’m not sure that happens unless Kansas State barely scrapes past a bad team like ND did against Pitt. If that happens, Oregon will still have ground they have to make up in the computers, but it won’t be as much.

    A Notre Dame loss and getting most of the #2 votes in the Coaches poll might be enough to push Oregon past Kansas State in the end.

    But as it stands today, the most likely “win and they’re in” out of the 3 is Kansas State. And obviously their chances hinge on how healthy Colin Klein is.

  13. jonanthans says: Nov 5, 2012 1:43 AM

    LSU has 2 losses..they are out of the NC race

  14. wustlumdnj says: Nov 5, 2012 5:16 AM

    @tpa43

    According to the actual conference strengths based on every BCS computer (three sources below), your post should be directed toward the ACC.

    http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc12.htm

    http://masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cf&yr=2012&sub=11604&c=1

  15. pens5829 says: Nov 5, 2012 7:43 AM

    ND stinks. With out two gifts from poor officiating (Stanford and Pitt games), they’ve got two losses.

  16. florida727 says: Nov 5, 2012 7:47 AM

    Looking like that four-team playoff can’t get here soon enough.

    I certainly don’t see Alabama losing, and I highly doubt anyone in the Pac 12 can outscore Oregon. Notre Dame’s path is clear if they can get the road win at USC. Kansas State’s got enough talent to run the table with or without Klein, but their job is easier if he’s able to go.

    I guess in the end I’m rooting for an Alabama-Oregon matchup. Oregon’s video game offense against college football’s best defense. Almost a shame they wouldn’t play the game within a week or two of the conference championship games. Giving Saban approximately a month to prepare for Oregon’s “O” definitely gives ‘Bama an edge.

  17. floridacock says: Nov 5, 2012 8:05 AM

    Very doubtful ND could beat ANY of the top 12 BCS teams in a neutral bowl site.

  18. manchestermiracle says: Nov 5, 2012 8:21 AM

    This is one of the few rational results I’ve seen this season in regards to the B(S)CS. ND struggled at home against a .500 team. Oregon beat a ranked (some would just say rank, period) on the road.

    On the other hand, I see the computer rankings are just as mind-bogglingly idiotic as usual.

  19. lucky5936 says: Nov 5, 2012 8:25 AM

    Kansas State is a great team, but I feel Oregon offense is a better match up for Alabama defense. History shows us that one skilled quarterback can not overcome a tough defense. However, Kansas State’s Defense and Notre Dame’s defense would match up better with Alabama’s offense. However, Notre Dame’s offense wouldn’t do so well against the Tide Defense. Should be an interesting NC game if State or Oregon make it, but Alabama really is a complete team.

  20. lucky5936 says: Nov 5, 2012 8:38 AM

    floridacock says:
    Nov 5, 2012 8:05 AM
    Very doubtful ND could beat ANY of the top 12 BCS teams in a neutral bowl site.
    ————————————————–
    Well, considering they already thumped # 12 Oklahoma on their turf, your theory is shot. I get what you are saying, but let’s be honest. South Carolina without Lattimore, Florida’s anemic offense, Louisville which edged out a 21-17 victory over winless Southern Miss, and Oregon State with their 77th ranked scoring offense couldn’t touch Notre Dame this season. Florida State, who is ranked too low in my opinion, and Georgia would more than hold their own against the Fighting Irish though. I would even consider Texas A&M to be a threat to the Irish, if not for their two narrow losses to LSU and Florida.

  21. omniusprime says: Nov 5, 2012 8:52 AM

    About time that Oregon goes back ahead of that garbage notre dame team from that garbage little east conference. That nd is still ranked #2 in the computers shows how corrupt the SEC BS system has been all along. I can’t wait for USC to crush notre dame in the last week of the season. Oregon deserves to be in the national championship game, not kansas state. Will some pathetic SEC trash team please beat Alabama.

  22. rtfox says: Nov 5, 2012 10:02 AM

    Anusprime is probably more like it.

  23. jimw81 says: Nov 5, 2012 12:55 PM

    i don’t see ND beating usc at the end of the year. USc will probably run the table in the last three games to win pac12 south.

    Kansas St will have a hard time with tcu.

  24. hor2012 says: Nov 5, 2012 2:29 PM

    I never thought I’d say this but I think Oregon may be the best team in the nation. And, this is something else I thought I’d never say. I think they match up well with bama

  25. greggatx says: Nov 5, 2012 2:43 PM

    txnative61:
    I agree, it will be K-State and Oregon for the national championship. Alabama is losing their grip. The sec isn’t as strong as they us to be. Those aggies seem to be handling those sec teams, though they lost a close one to lsu. I’m no aggie fan but a win over alabama would be sweet. We (University of Texas)may end up playing those aggies sooner that expected in the Cotton Bowl. Another win would be great over those aggies!
    Hook’em Horns!!

  26. metalhead65 says: Nov 5, 2012 2:44 PM

    but god made dame #1 didn’t he? don’t worry I am sure if the other teams ahead of them go thru undefeated and dame lose to USC they will still find a way for dame to play for the national championship game.

  27. materialman80 says: Nov 5, 2012 4:37 PM

    LSU is down in the standings and with 2 losses, I understand it. That being said, I will put them up against the Irish, K-State or Oregon any day of the week….

  28. taintedlombardis says: Nov 5, 2012 5:19 PM

    I like Oregon better @ #2 than K-State. Polls are dumb, and college football should just do a grueling 68 team tourney like B-ball does. NCAA football is already a meat grinder. Last team alive (literally) gets the glory! Thunderdome bitches!

  29. pudgalvin says: Nov 5, 2012 5:48 PM

    “Very doubtful ND could beat ANY of the top 12 BCS teams in a neutral bowl site.”

    This is my absolute favorite comment that I’ve ever seen here at CFT. I’ve seen some good ones, but this one takes the cake. Way to start watching college football this week.

    “About time that Oregon goes back ahead of that garbage notre dame team from that garbage little east conference. That nd is still ranked #2 in the computers shows how corrupt the SEC BS system has been all along. I can’t wait for USC to crush notre dame in the last week of the season. Oregon deserves to be in the national championship game, not kansas state. Will some pathetic SEC trash team please beat Alabama.”

    This one is my second favorite. I don’t know what the “SEC BS system” is, but it’s pretty impressive that they’ve cooked up a computer program gives extra points for being Notre Dame. Ten years later, they finally used that piece of code that gave Notre Dame a one spot bump in the BCS standings. Now, they didn’t use it to get Notre Dame to the first or second spot, only to the third spot. After all, you can’t be TOO obvious about using your top secret Notre Dame code in your program.

    I’d really like to meet some of the people that actually type this stuff up on their computer and think, “yeah, this is what’s up. I’m really telling them the way it is.”

  30. pedagoguish says: Nov 5, 2012 10:41 PM

    Here is news. The tide is flowing against the Crimson. LSU exposed them as a less-than-perfect team.

    Many people in America think Oregon is a better team than Alabama. I’m sure there are others that think K State is better, or the Fighting Irish, or even Louisville.

    Its time that sports writers and coaches had the courage of their convictions and voted their consciences instead of lockstepping with everyone else. I keep hearing this nonsense about Alabama as “defending national champions.” Sorry, but the national champions graduated last year. Its time that the voters looked at THIS year’s teams, and voted based on who they believe is best NOW!

    It would be shameful if a superior team were left out of the national champion picture because of some insupportable deference to the SEC. Alabama has done nothing to prove they are any better than several quality teams. If writers and coaches think their are better teams, they must vote them #1.

  31. rtfox says: Nov 5, 2012 11:57 PM

    Since the ducks are not one of the superior teams, they have nothing to worry about.

  32. rtfox says: Nov 5, 2012 11:58 PM

    And the ducks have done nothing either.

  33. pedagoguish says: Nov 6, 2012 12:12 AM

    Foxie,

    If you think Oregon is not one of the superior teams, you are living in Fantasy Land. You have zero credibility.

    Ped

  34. pedagoguish says: Nov 6, 2012 12:23 AM

    P.S. Does anyone keep the Police Blotter updated? I see almost every day that some college player has doped up, or beaten his girlfriend, or burglarized an apartment. Yet nothing gets added to the blotter. 20 days without an arrest? Gimme a break!

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