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SEC’s title streak falls along with the Tide?

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This is by no means meant to belittle or downplay what Texas A&M did in impressive fashion in Tuscaloosa, beating the No. 1 team in the country 29-24, but there are much bigger issues in play here than the No. 15 Aggies securing their biggest victory during their short time in the SEC.

Mainly, did the new kids on the block succeed in doing what no other team in the country from any other conference has been able to do the past six seasons: knock the SEC off its BcS title perch?

At first blush, it very much appears to be that way. With the loss, Alabama falls — or will fall in the latter case — from both the ranks of the unbeaten and their season-long spot atop the polls. It also leaves the SEC without an unbeaten team this late in the season for the first time since 2007.

The loss also means that the SEC as a whole will find itself in a position Sunday night that it hasn’t been in but a couple of times during their six-year crystal run: needing help from the outside to push them into a seventh consecutive BcS title game. Based on the two individuals who I’ve spoken to who know the BcS formula as well as anyone in the country, it would be virtually impossible for Alabama — or one-loss Georgia for that matter if it were to run the table — to leapfrog Oregon, Kansas State and/or Notre Dame if all three remain undefeated.

“After A&M jumped out [to a 20-0 first-quarter lead], I started running scenarios where a one-loss Alabama could make the title game [if the other three remain unbeaten],” the BcS guru, who asked not to be named, told CFT. “I simply couldn’t find one.

“That doesn’t mean there’s not one, but it does mean it would take something unprecedented.”

In not so many words, that “something unprecedented” would be for the voters to place a one-loss SEC — whether that’s Alabama or Georgia — above Oregon, Kansas State or Notre Dame should that trio navigate the remainder of the season unscathed.  Simply put, the Tide or Bulldogs will need at least two of the three unbeatens to lose in order to keep the SEC’s streak alive.

And, in a fit of irony that won’t be lost on many an individual, Texas A&M, added in large part to help the SEC’s financial bottom line, likely cost the conference something that matters more than dollars to the football-mad league: its streak of BcS titles.

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  1. pryor4heisman says: Nov 10, 2012 7:31 PM

    THEE Ohio State University is the BEST team in country. HANDS DOWN!

    Split title!!

  2. TxGrown says: Nov 10, 2012 7:36 PM

    Congratulation s Aggies! Great game, great team and a great school! This from a Longhorns fan.

  3. spudvol says: Nov 10, 2012 7:37 PM

    OSU can put their NC trophy next to Terrelle Pryor’s Heisman.

  4. taintedlombardis says: Nov 10, 2012 7:38 PM

    In other news, domestic violence complaints are up 10 fold in Alabama.

  5. buckeye1nation says: Nov 10, 2012 7:40 PM

    @pryor-I’m a Buckeye fan but let’s not get crazy..

  6. southernpatriots says: Nov 10, 2012 7:40 PM

    To say I am at least somewhat shocked would be accurate. I thought TAMU would play Alabama a good game but beat them? No, I did not think so, but I saw it with my own eyes. The game against LSU took something out of Alabama and they did not seem to have the dominating defense, nor did the Tide have the offensive punch they had before.

    I hope LSU does not play flat tonight. TAMU not only beat Alabama but beat them in Tuscaloosa. I thought it would take TAMU a few years to play up with the top teams in the SEC. This is their first year! The Aggies are playing much better than I thought they would. I know Tide fans, and our friends are feeling low, and the Aggies are on a cloud.

    It does go to show that on any given night in the SEC…

  7. imaduffer says: Nov 10, 2012 7:40 PM

    Don’t worry Bama fans, the Tide will bounce right back next week against Western Carolina.
    But watch out for Auburn.

  8. manchestermiracle says: Nov 10, 2012 7:42 PM

    K-State/Oregon in the BCS title game is more compelling anyway.

  9. BrownsTown says: Nov 10, 2012 7:42 PM

    Big 12 > SEC

    OK St should retroactively earn the national championship from last year now that the myth has been debunked.

  10. sssjim7 says: Nov 10, 2012 7:43 PM

    Oh, heck… Clemson could kick the crap out of any SEC team this year…. let the SEC die in peace already!

    (Alabama got to the NC title game without even winning their conference last year… why not Clemson this year?)

    USC will probably knock both Oregon AND Notre Dame out of the unbeaten ranks… just enough to muddle it up and let the media darling boys of the SEC back into a NC slot…

    I dunno… I figured A&M could get a big half-time lead… didn’t know if they could hold it or not…

    I can’t see anyone voting Alabama over Texas A&M… but you just watch… some idiot will do just that…

    Enough of my rambling… it will be interesting to see how all this ends up working out…


  11. pryor4heisman says: Nov 10, 2012 7:44 PM

    Would have been Notre Dame vs Buckeyes in the National Championship. 100 Rudy’s running around out there wouldn’t be enough to win.

    All because of a few free tattoos. Mark my words. Urban Meyer is going to start out 26-0 to cap off a title next year

  12. gopokes0714 says: Nov 10, 2012 7:48 PM

    I agree, especially the way A&M counts championships!

    congrats to A&M. never made much noise in the Big 12, guess that puts that SEC defense myth to bed

  13. sssjim7 says: Nov 10, 2012 7:48 PM

    @pryor… I’m just hoping OSU can beat Michigan this year… :)

  14. overratedgators says: Nov 10, 2012 7:49 PM

    Harvey Updyke just detonated a suitcase nuke in College Station.

  15. mgmac says: Nov 10, 2012 7:50 PM

    Gig ’em Aggies !!! Whoop !!!

  16. Deb says: Nov 10, 2012 7:51 PM

    Congratulations to the Aggies for an excellent game. This team has had me worried for a while, but if I’d had any idea how good their defense really was I’d have been much more concerned. And what a terrific QB!

    Of course, I’d still like to see an SEC team make the title game, and hope it would be Bama. But as a Tide fan, I’d rather lose to the Aggies now than have our weaknesses exposed in a championship match. A&M has two losses, and that’s too bad. Because if they played like they did today, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Aggies in the title game.

  17. 10kmp says: Nov 10, 2012 7:51 PM

    Ohio State alum and huge Buckeye fan here.

    Are you trying to make all of us look stupid, or do you sincerely think the Buckeyes are the best team in the country??? Listen, like many where I live I love Ohio State, and would love to see them win an AP poll title. Having said that I think the Buckeyes, realistically, are probably about the 8th to 10th best team in the country, and I’m not even certain of that to be honest. Ohio State is a good, solid young team, and the future looks bright. Lets just leave it at that and not make inane statements that make sensible Ohio State fans cringe…

  18. Spencer says: Nov 10, 2012 7:53 PM

    Great game A&M! Of course a HUGE upset is not the headline, but worry about what happens to Alabama is.

  19. WingT says: Nov 10, 2012 7:53 PM

    Great game by the aggies – congratulations to Aggie fans. They really played well with no mistakes. Their QB made plays all day long – what a competitor.

    You can not turn the ball over 3 times and expect to win when playing a quality opponent.

    Alabama’s defense allowed way to many 3rd down conversions in this game and in the previous LSU game.

    Roll Tide

  20. megatronspartan says: Nov 10, 2012 7:55 PM

    I’ve been talking up Bama all year but after a brutal stretch in there schedule they looked gassed… What the rest of undefeated follow suite and lose when the ball is in there court!! Bama slides back in title game.. Hopefully BC pulls out ND

  21. frank booth says: Nov 10, 2012 7:55 PM

    pryor4heisman says:Nov 10, 2012 7:44 PM

    Would have been Notre Dame vs Buckeyes in the National Championship. 100 Rudy’s running around out there wouldn’t be enough to win.

    All because of a few free tattoos. Mark my words. Urban Meyer is going to start out 26-0 to cap off a title next year
    Coming through such a torrid first 4 non-conference games (Miami of Ohio, UCF, Cal, UAB) and beating one presently ranked opponent (Nebraska) has been really impressive.

  22. jimbo75025 says: Nov 10, 2012 7:56 PM

    Well all as a college football fan, all I can say to Texas A&M in congratulations. You played a great game. Enjoy your victory as you deserve it.

    On the other hand, as an SEC fan, I am a bit torn. Glad on one hand that everyone can now see that the gauntlet of the SEC schedule can run down even the most talented of teams. Conversely, sad that “the streak” is most lilely over. Always been a believer that if you want to take the belt you gotta knock out the champ in the ring though and not win on points.

  23. pryor4heisman says: Nov 10, 2012 7:57 PM


  24. thefiesty1 says: Nov 10, 2012 7:57 PM

    Un-freakin-believable! Ags? You’ve got to be kidding me. this is just another bad Aggie joke.

  25. bills4 says: Nov 10, 2012 8:01 PM

    Saban is gonna blame someone or something. He’s such a waste of human skin.

  26. frank booth says: Nov 10, 2012 8:02 PM

    Come on, Alabama and SEC fans. Aside from LSU and today’s opponent, Alabama’s schedule hasn’t been particularly difficult. They were just beaten today. That’s all.

  27. elwaysmilehighdenver says: Nov 10, 2012 8:03 PM

    BO > Woody

  28. uscthom78 says: Nov 10, 2012 8:07 PM

    Deforestation increased 100fold in auburn.

  29. mattypbillsmafia says: Nov 10, 2012 8:08 PM


    Didn’t Oregon beat USC last week? How will they knock them from the ranks of the unbeaten when Oregon already rolled through them?

  30. ratedgap says: Nov 10, 2012 8:12 PM

    Gotta love the dopes who say since A&M beat Alabama, this proves the SEC isn’t that tough and the Big 12 is better. Gotta love revisionist history. First, let’s ignore the Big 12’s showings in titles games and BCS games, cause you seem to be. But if this was the case, what happened to A&M against Florida and LSU? Oh, they lost, at home. Both times. Second, A&M is blessed to have truly one of the most exciting football players to come around this season in Johnny Football. They didn’t have that while playing in the Big 12. Third, Bama went to war with LSU last week, and won an emotional game. Of course a letdown was possible. Don’t show your ignorance to this extent. This doesn’t show anything but that a great team coming off a huge emotional win can suffer a letdown to a team with a transcendent players. And Manziel is that.

  31. panthrobro says: Nov 10, 2012 8:13 PM

    Oregon was supposed to play Kansas State anyway this year. They had a home at home scheduled but Oregon pulled out to play in the Cowboys Classic last season. One of those teams should have a loss too.

  32. barbeaux says: Nov 10, 2012 8:16 PM

    This wasn’t really a let down. Rather, the Aggies have been maturing all season. They jumped all over Florida early on in that game but then dropped off. They’ve played very well all season. They should have a higher ranking than what they have. As for Alabama, people had bought into the brand rather than the explicit team this year (same goes for LSU). I’d be so happy if we got a true 8 game playoff.

  33. footballace says: Nov 10, 2012 8:18 PM

    Great game by Texas A&M and their coaching staff for not going conservative in their play calling in the 4th quarter.

    I’m a Irish homer, but a 1 loss SEC team still deserves to be in the title game even if it means the Irish are left out.

  34. freemantowilliams says: Nov 10, 2012 8:18 PM

    I called this all week at work and people looked at me like I was crazy. Johnny Football is the real deal. On one play he threw an out pass and I though I was watching that bridgestone commercial with primetime and aikman. Great game

  35. hardballtalkusername says: Nov 10, 2012 8:20 PM

    @ panthrobro

    Actually Oregon called KSU to reschedule the date for the 2011 game and KSU suggested they just cancel the series.

  36. bender4700 says: Nov 10, 2012 8:22 PM

    hahahahhaha someone is talking about Ohio State.

    Boy, if only they hadn’t got caught cheating….

    Remember when OSU fan was all over the Trojan fans?

    Short memories.

    OSU isn’t in the top 5. KSU and Oregon would CRUSH them. Notre Dame would beat them, and so would 3 or 4 teams in the SEC.

    The Big Ten sucks. Being the best of a bad conference is like being 5th in the Big XII or Pac-12.

  37. Deb says: Nov 10, 2012 8:22 PM

    Someone should buy meds for the guy who thinks Pryor deserved a Heisman and that the Aggies beating Bama has any relevance to Urban Meyer’s coaching skill.

  38. sssjim7 says: Nov 10, 2012 8:23 PM


    Didn’t Oregon beat USC last week? How will they knock them from the ranks of the unbeaten when Oregon already rolled through them?

    I expect USC to beat Arizona, UCLA and Notre Dame and represent the South division in the PAC championship game… against Oregon (again)…

    Just more idle rambling… ignore me… :)


  39. bender4700 says: Nov 10, 2012 8:26 PM

    The KState vs Oregon game was a MUTUAL cancellation.

    Old news. Anyone who knows truth knows neither team backed out. Don’t matter who initiated the talks, but both sides figured out it’d be better not to play.

    Guess what, they will play, so it won’t matter anymore.

  40. bender4700 says: Nov 10, 2012 8:28 PM

    the “pryorforheisman” guy is just getting you guys going.

    He clearly isn’t serious. If he is, he needs to be in an institution.

  41. sssjim7 says: Nov 10, 2012 8:31 PM


    Of course we know “pryorforheisman” is joking… Tajh Boyd has the heisman wrapped up in his back pocket…

    Sheesh… everyone knows that… :)

  42. oaktown49er says: Nov 10, 2012 8:31 PM

    So Alabama loses an SEC game at home. Doesn’t that make them the favorite for the national championship?

  43. cometkazie says: Nov 10, 2012 8:34 PM

    Boy, the SEC haters are out in force!

    I’m glad we played the Aggies early in the season. Johnny Football is really fun to watch. Imagine how Kyle Stadium will rock when something like this happens there.

    College football, ya can’t beat it.

    Congratulations, Aggies! You make the SEC West better.

  44. normtide says: Nov 10, 2012 8:37 PM

    Was a greet game, just an awful ending, for me that is. Bama’s defense is not as good as last year. They have tired as the season wore on. Sloppy tackling the last few weeks. Once again, Bama was right there at the end, but a pick sealed it. We still have an sec title ahead of us, and a backdoor shot at the BCS title. We are also a younger team then most folks realize.

  45. imaduffer says: Nov 10, 2012 8:41 PM


    “Third, Bama went to war with LSU last week, and won an emotional game.”

    And who the hell did they play before that?

    Absolutely nobody!!!

  46. frug says: Nov 10, 2012 8:44 PM

    Come on, we all know that Alabama will just lobby the voters to put them into the championship game anyways over a statistically superior team from another conference.

  47. tlmoon2112 says: Nov 10, 2012 8:44 PM

    I’m sorry but I don’t understand why Alabama fans can’t just tip their hats to this young QB. He shredded your team tonight. It has nothing to do with poor tackling and all these other excuses Saban spewed at the press conference afterward. The kid is and should be in the Heisman debate for a reason. Like it or not he proved he’s a better QB tonight then AJ McCrybaby.

  48. dgbk says: Nov 10, 2012 9:01 PM

    that was a great game A&M desrve to win.. saddest thing to come from this will be big 12> sec statements. some how u can claim a team after actin like you didnt want them in your conference. if the aggies came to the sec and stunk the comments will be they stunk they were the worse in the big 12 good riddance. they are playin well so that mean yea they are good so big 12 is good.:/

    this is a different a&m team let’s not act like this is mke sherman’s 8-8 teams every yr.

    big 12 had two shots uf vs sooners and bama vs longhorns. they went 0-2. i guess some how A&M winnin today gives back those titles.

  49. barbeaux says: Nov 10, 2012 9:02 PM

    Wasn’t there some sort of blind exercise last year to see how voters would judge who should be in the BCS…just for grins? I believe they had picked OK State over Alabama to face off against LSU. If voters looked past university brands and actually looked at blind results it’d be interesting to see who’d get the nod this year.

  50. manchestermiracle says: Nov 10, 2012 9:21 PM


    I’m definitely not a fan of ND, but I see no reason for a one-loss team to take the spot of any undefeated, whether ND, Oregon, or K-State. A team shouldn’t get a berth in the title game just for being from the SEC.

  51. ttalarico says: Nov 10, 2012 9:27 PM

    Now let me see, Texas A & M beat Alabama. So that does that mean there are now two teams that can beat an NFL team?

  52. barbeaux says: Nov 10, 2012 9:27 PM

    I’m an SEC fan, and I agree with this ^ so long as those teams have played decently to moderately difficult schedules which two of these teams have. One is sort of weaker than the others. I’d have no qualms with a K-State/Oregon championship if they stay undefeated.

  53. stevenfbrackett says: Nov 10, 2012 9:36 PM

    If any team ever NEEDED a slice a humble pie more than Alabama, there is no record of it. Have no fear, though, the BCS losers will find some way of maneuvering them into the national title game this season – even if they lose a second game and two teams go undefeated. There is no way they are going allow a title game without an SEC team in it.

  54. stairwayto7 says: Nov 10, 2012 10:02 PM

    WHERE R THE INBRED SEC FANS AT? Florida wins on a blocked punt vs Lousiana Lafayette? Really? No SEC team should be ranked in top 8 after this weekends pathtic preformance!

  55. twoody50 says: Nov 10, 2012 10:13 PM

    It took a defector from the Big 12 to take the mighty BAMA down.

  56. dgbk says: Nov 10, 2012 10:14 PM


    As a gators fan that was not our best “preformance” but a win is a win. Don’t worry win you wake up monday there will be several SEC teams in the bcs top 8 :). One of those teams will be the gators after that sad preformance they had.

  57. dgbk says: Nov 10, 2012 10:20 PM

    how come sec article trolls hardly ever say wat team/conference they like??

  58. cometkazie says: Nov 10, 2012 10:22 PM

    Did anyone notice that Barrett Jones was the first to congratulate the Aggie coach? He will be getting a masters next month with a 4.0 average.

    I would love to have been a fly on the wall at the dinner for Coach Bryant’s old players last night.

  59. twoody50 says: Nov 10, 2012 10:26 PM

    Matty……USC and Oregon could meet in the PAC12 Championship game

  60. twoody50 says: Nov 10, 2012 10:29 PM

    Why did Mushberger and Herbstreit get this dog of a game.

  61. tigersgeaux says: Nov 10, 2012 10:31 PM

    What a game Texas A&M played! What a game Johnny Manziel played. Whew. What a game. It is hard to believe that Bama lost. Saban does not look like he enjoys coaching. He looks like he doesn’t really enjoy it when he wins, but looks relieved. And of course, he doesn’t enjoy it when he loses. He is a great coach, one of the very best, but maybe he needs a break, a rest.

    LSU won at home against Mississippi State. Is that 19 or 20 games in row v. State? LSU won at home going away. Alabama lost at home. Don’t know if anything at all can be made of that but it happened, and I would not have believed it would happen until it actually did tonight.

    StairwaytoapologistforPennStateperversion: I am glad you can write something other than the inane stupid things you have been writing, but this post shows you are just as stupid as always. LSU won. Look at the top 10 BCS rankings tomorrow night and see how many SEC teams are in it.

  62. sailsman52 says: Nov 10, 2012 10:33 PM

    Come on people I have never seen such SEC haters! They ARE the best Divison in footbal and they have play each other every week. KS and Oregan what ranked teams do they play? USC ?
    Come on if Georgia beats Alabama in SEC Championship they should play in BCS NS. Would be better than watching Oregan or KS play!
    Sad to see so many haters…esp OS Buckeye fans every time they have played a SEC team they were embaressed on Naional TV.

  63. sailsman52 says: Nov 10, 2012 10:36 PM

    Stairway……you are a idot!

  64. twoody50 says: Nov 10, 2012 10:36 PM

    As long as the BCS and ESPN exist the SEC will always be ranked in the top 10.

  65. normtide says: Nov 10, 2012 10:45 PM

    Stairway has SEC envy.

    Hate Bama and the sec all you want. A good SEC team beat Bama, I can live with that. Also, Bama is not going anywhere, lots of freshmen on the field and plenty of good recruits coming in. Neither is LSU, Georgia, Florida, or TA&M. The championship steak MAY end, but this is still the best league in the country.

    That said, with the current system, a one loss SEC team can not be pushed ahead of an undefeated team with an AQ schedule. But, lets just see how all this plays out.

  66. twoody50 says: Nov 10, 2012 10:51 PM

    Now TAMU is a good SEC team……..Last year they were not worthy of joining the SEC.

  67. twoody50 says: Nov 10, 2012 10:56 PM

    Obviously sailman doesnt like to watch offense.

  68. kozbee says: Nov 10, 2012 11:03 PM

    Yelton,was it real butter ? The way he played tonight he should of signed with Auburn..

  69. pedagoguish says: Nov 10, 2012 11:26 PM

    Hey, Boothie,

    You were the expert on how spread offenses would prove incapable of penetrating the vaunted Tide defense. As I recall your haughty prediction, Oregon wouldn’t stand a chance against Alabama. Now you’re an expert on Ohio State?

    You and pompous Deb better plan a catfish jigging expedition on January 7th unless, of course, you intend to watch some real football played on T.V. Oregon, Kansas State, Notre Dame–it really doesn’t matter as long as the SEC folks are home with nothing to do.

    There should be one bit of solace for you though. You won’t have to go out on the roof to adjust your television antenna in the dead of winter. You do have television down there, don’t you?

    Your friend,

  70. suprmous says: Nov 10, 2012 11:44 PM

    Southernpatriots, no worries on LSU playing flat tonite (as I hope by now you already know). It was a good game as well. Maybe not by many’s standards but still a good game. And I’ve got to agree with Coach Miles, he couldn’t have asked for a better b’day present.

  71. domerhomer says: Nov 10, 2012 11:52 PM

    Alabama sucks donkey dick!! Eat it!!! Blow me bama !!

  72. frank booth says: Nov 11, 2012 12:13 AM

    pedagoguish says:Nov 10, 2012 11:26 PM

    Hey, Boothie,

    You were the expert on how spread offenses would prove incapable of penetrating the vaunted Tide defense. As I recall your haughty prediction, Oregon wouldn’t stand a chance against Alabama. Now you’re an expert on Ohio State?

    You and pompous Deb better plan a catfish jigging expedition on January 7th unless, of course, you intend to watch some real football played on T.V. Oregon, Kansas State, Notre Dame–it really doesn’t matter as long as the SEC folks are home with nothing to do.

    There should be one bit of solace for you though. You won’t have to go out on the roof to adjust your television antenna in the dead of winter. You do have television down there, don’t you?

    Your friend,
    Um, no, I never said anything about spread offenses not being able to penetrate the Tide’s defense, nor have I ever once said that Oregon can’t beat Alabama, or anyone else for that matter. I’ve also told you about 10 times that I don’t even pull for Alabama.

    I said this:
    frank booth says:Nov 5, 2012 12:01 AM

    Ped- It’s true that Oregon played one of the best QB’s and a couple of the best receivers in the nation and they won’t see that against Alabama. It’s also true that they played against the 65th best defense, and that Oregon’s defense is ranked 50th.

    Fact is, no one knows what Oregon can do against a good defense.

    I don’t think that LSU exposed anything other than that they are not good enough to beat Alabama. Neither the Alabama game nor the Oregon game proved how either team would play against the other.

    And I said this:

    frank booth says:Oct 30, 2012 2:05 AM

    It’s not fantasy. Oregon has played a weak schedule against weak teams.

    Your comment about Alabama does have some validity, however, as their schedule hasn’t been as difficult as some others, and Notre Dame and Kansas State (to a lesser extent) have had a more difficult road to navigate than Alabama (s0 far) this year.

    Alabama still has tough games against LSU and Texas A & M, and should they get there, the SEC championship. But Oregon still has to play legit teams like USC, Oregon State, and Stanford plus a conference championship as well. If both teams win out, I would hope that they would be the two teams to face each other, as they would be the most deserving.

    The only thing I talked about Oregon was their schedule. I typically don’t make any representations as to what offense can beat what defense or who can beat who. It’s just a waste of time.

    So, you’re wrong. Put down the bottle.

  73. rsmeans says: Nov 11, 2012 12:18 AM

    Until 2014 no SEC team will win a NC since they will knock themselves out of contention. After 2014 the SEC will win more than 90% of the NC’S. In the SEC it is practically impossible for any team to go undefeated. In poor conferences like the PAC12, Big 12 and Big10 it is much easier. Same scenario in the NFL where no team is ever likely to go undefeated–simply too many good teams.

  74. sssjim7 says: Nov 11, 2012 12:35 AM

    /Quote: “Until 2014 no SEC team will win a NC since they will knock themselves out of contention. After 2014 the SEC will win more than 90% of the NC’S. In the SEC it is practically impossible for any team to go undefeated. In poor conferences like the PAC12, Big 12 and Big10 it is much easier.” /unquote

    I love the way you just put that out there like it is a fact. Opinions are cool, but when presented as facts they are just annoying.

    Personally, I am not impressed with the SEC yet this year. Their out of conference scheduling has been weak, and they have not earned all the accolades everyone keeps throwing on them.

    However, in two weeks the SEC will have a chance to prove themselves to me. I really don’t see it happening, though…

    See, I predict that Florida State is going to walk all over Florida. And I predict that Clemson will beat South Carolina. And I think the Georgia Tech vs Georgia game will be closer that most people think (top of SEC vs middle/bottom ACC)..

    Good thing that this will be settled on the field and not the polls. They don’t check IQ’s on the voters:)

    Just my .02

  75. frank booth says: Nov 11, 2012 12:36 AM

    rsmeans says:Nov 11, 2012 12:18 AM

    Until 2014 no SEC team will win a NC since they will knock themselves out of contention. After 2014 the SEC will win more than 90% of the NC’S. In the SEC it is practically impossible for any team to go undefeated. In poor conferences like the PAC12, Big 12 and Big10 it is much easier. Same scenario in the NFL where no team is ever likely to go undefeated–simply too many good teams
    90% of National Championships until when? The year 2100?

    If it’s harder to go undefeated in the SEC, doesn’t it make it more likely that they won’t win 90% of NC’s?

  76. fatguystrangler says: Nov 11, 2012 2:21 AM

    Great game played by Johnny Football and the Aggies. Hopefully, we can stop hearing this ridiculous talk about any college team beating a pro team.

  77. alligatorsnapper says: Nov 11, 2012 6:53 AM


    Absolutely. Stupid, grossly stupid statements by anyone who makes them.

  78. tradertrik says: Nov 11, 2012 8:17 AM

    I live in Alabamastan and am one of the happiest people alive presently. My Irish are finally coming back, and the team with the EASIEST schedule in the Scrotum Eating Conference (SEC) have gotten their just rewards. Kevin Scarbinsky, a local writer for the Birminghamster News (lots of pictures, little print) did a statistical breakdown of the degree of difficulty of each of the SEC team, and Alabamastan had by far the easiest, with a total overall won/loss record of all opposition a measly 52%. That’s like playing X-Box football and setting your guys to 100% in everything and the CPU to 24% in everything. Glad they got beat; the only downside is I have to listen to all the whining and excuse making and we’re still the best football team in the world bullsh*t until the beat whatever might non-FBS team they have coming up. Thanks tons, Johnny Football & Co. Go Irish!

  79. norcalirish says: Nov 11, 2012 8:40 AM

    Alabama’s schedule before and after these two games is a joke.

    When I looked it up I saw teams that I didn’t even know existed.

    I’m not kidding.

  80. omniusprime says: Nov 11, 2012 8:55 AM

    About time the SEC trash won’t be playing in a national championship game. So funny how the SEC trash made fun of incoming teams like texas A&M as not really being worthy of joining the SEC and that they’d be losers in the SEC. Well how about now that one of the newcomers has just beaten Alabama? Ha Ha!!!

    Oregon is the best team in the country and Kansas State is second and they would make a much more interesting national championship game than that Alabama/LSU garbage game in January.

    Funniest of all is that it’s the second time this week that the elephant lost a national championship game. Go Obama!!!

  81. kansas525 says: Nov 11, 2012 8:57 AM

    It is what I have been saying all season. The Alabama/LSU game proved neither one could stop a decent (notice I did not say good) passing team and why the SEC streak would have stopped at 5 if they had not played each other last year. TAMU still plays Big 12/PAC 12 brand football and exposed the very weak pass defense of Alabama. When the top teams in a league are losing very close games to Louisiana Lafayette and Louisiana Tech, the conference cannot be considered great. The problem with the SEC right now can be put in historical perspective. I have been an addict of college football for over 40 years and was a Big 8 fan (which,by the way, is the only conference to ever finish 1-2-3 in a national poll) during the Oklahoma/Nebraska era of the 70’s when they had running offenses and defenses that would make the current SEC drool. Yet, when they went to the Orange bowl, a passing team (usually, Miami, FSU or Florida) would give their defenses fits and, about half the time, beat them. Most of the SEC teams, if they met a GOOD passing team, would lose, because they have not played against one all year. And for the non-investigavtive person, translate to idiot, who said Alabama plays a tough schedule – Do some research, or read the research done by one of the other commentors that did.

  82. kansas525 says: Nov 11, 2012 9:11 AM

    PS to sailsman52 and rsmeans:
    Who does the Big 12 play? Try Oklahoma, Texas, Oklahoma State, KS State, Texas Tech, Baylor, all of which, except KS State, play the same type of offense that TAMU took out Alabama with. Do you want your “walk and roll” SEC teams to take on a fresh one of those each week? By the way, 3 of the quarterbacks from last year’s Big 12 teams are STARTING in the NFL this year. Talk to me about the “horrors” of facing an SEC opponent each week, again, where you have to put 9 people in the tackle box and be comfortable with the fact that, if the quarterback throws, he will usually miss his receiver. Ah, maybe that is where the “great” defensive stats come from. Finally, Alabama was in the championship game with a strength of schedule of 54, and the sos does not include division 2 teams, which Alabama played 3 of. As I said in the first posting. Do some research.

  83. florida727 says: Nov 11, 2012 9:54 AM

    As an SEC (and Florida in particular) fan, I have mixed emotions after watching the A&M – ‘Bama game. On the one hand, I’m glad because I really do think the two best teams in America this year are Oregon and Kansas State, assuming both can remain, or at least get, healthy. I knew the SEC run of BCS titles would end sooner or later because sports has always been cyclical, and that will never change. And no disrespect to K-State’s defense, but I really would have loved to see what Oregon’s healthy, well-rested offense would do against a healthy, well-rested Alabama defense. Regardless if it was for the national title or not, that would be fun to watch.

    In the SEC we’ve always bragged about how we play defense, and I think we’ve earned the right to do that, but Oregon’s offense is so good I really wonder if anyone can slow them down for an entire game, or at least enough to make it a close game in the 4th quarter.

    Good run for the SEC in terms of national titles. Whoever plays this year’s crystal ball bowl will have earned it, and we’ll all be watching. Got to love college football. If we could only eliminate Sunday through Friday :)

  84. alligatorsnapper says: Nov 11, 2012 10:08 AM

    Oregon had a fast offense last season and was much ballyhooed by the media. They had a test with a SEC team in the first game of the season in the Cowboy Classic. LSU dominated the lines–both offense and defense. LSU was also faster. I know the teams are different this season but there is precedence and experience.

    A great defense can slow down and even stop a fast offense. Given a couple of weeks of preparation Saban will come up with a defensive scheme which will deal with the speed, maybe making certain to hit all receivers at the line. The general dictum, “great defenses win championships” is generally true.

    Chances are if an SEC team does get into the BCS NCG, that SEC team will win the NC.

  85. pemory says: Nov 11, 2012 10:12 AM

    I hope everyone read this article carefully as the key phrase is “it would take something unprecedented.” What this means is don’t be surprised if/when a one-loss team (i.e. Alabama or LSU) ends-up getting selected over K-State, Oregon, or ND for the NC Game.

    This is why I’m a much, much bigger NFL Fan: none of this BCS nonsense….

  86. pemory says: Nov 11, 2012 10:13 AM

    And by the way, Johnny Football is the real deal.

  87. cometkazie says: Nov 11, 2012 11:01 AM

    LSU made it to one of their crystal football games with two losses.

    U$C is still crying about it. Of course their two appearances were vacated.

  88. Deb says: Nov 11, 2012 12:50 PM

    @ped …

    I congratulated the Aggies on a great game, a great defense, and a terrific QB without making a single excuse for Bama. If your Ducks manage to make it to another Championship game, I’ll be there in January, rooting on whatever SEC team embarrasses them this time. Or I’ll happily root on K-State or Notre Dame. Rave on :)

  89. BrownsTown says: Nov 12, 2012 8:23 AM

    Attn: University of Alabama.

    Please ship that 2011 crystal football to:

    Athletics Center
    Oklahoma State University
    Stillwater, OK 74078

    ….and remember to use extra packing peanuts. Those things are fragile.

  90. tigersgeaux says: Nov 12, 2012 8:32 AM


    Now that is funny.

    I have been working a turnaround shift for the past few days and I am not thinking well, but didn’t Alabama break that crystal football already, shattered it? Did they receive a replacement yet? ha.

  91. v2the4 says: Nov 12, 2012 12:26 PM

    interesting comments from everyone…let me tell you what the folks down here in Houston are saying:

    college station is 90 miles northwest of Houston, so of course, this city is full of Aggies, and they have a major chip on their shoulder right, which they should be…when you’re winning, you should boast to a degree because A&M has been the whipping boy for darn near everyone in the big 12, minus Kansas, Baylor and Iowa St, when they were in the league.

    personally, the difference this season is head coach Kevin Sumlin and his no huddle offense. He did far more passing at Houston when he had Case Keenum, but Johnny Mansiel is a far better runner than a passer and a lot of his yards come on broken plays and he uses his speed to make the defenses look silly…..The SEC has never seen an offense like this at all.

    Cam Newton ran a similar type no huddle offense, but it was focused more on running…Florida, Tennessee,Georgia, Arkansas and Kentucky when they had Hal Mumme and Tim Couch, all had good passing offenses at one time or another, but I think with the way A&M has made vaunted sec defenses look like sun belt and c-usa defenses, you may see some teams turn to this type of offense in the future.

    I still think there is a back door way for an SEC team to sneak into the championship game. Im not hoping for it, but there could be. If Oregon loses to Stanford on saturday, Stanford has the upper hand for the pac12 title game, but I dont think it will happen….Oregon still has to play Oregon st in the civil War, and OSU is a lot better than people think, and if they survive both games, they will meet up with either USC or UCLA in the pac 12 title game.

    Notre Dame will beat Wake Forest, but I dont think they can beat USC thanksgiving weekend, which will knock them out.

    Kansas State will have the most pressure on them…they have Baylor and Texas left on their schedule….Baylor can score on darn near anyone, but they cant play defense…Texas has rebounded from that Oklahoma beatdown and is playing like we all expected…they have a bunch of weapons and could return the favor to K-state from knocking the Horns out of the 2007 national title hunt, when they beat the #3 Horns 45-42 and knocked Colt McCoy out of the game…the horns lost the next week to A&m 12-7 with a concussed McCoy getting knocked out again.

    we will have to stay tuned to see what happens. a lot of football left to be played.

  92. tigersgeaux says: Nov 12, 2012 12:38 PM

    v2the4: Thank you. Most of my information concerning college football is now from CFT. Since I received a “promotion” and I am now working 20 to 30 EXTRA hours each week, taking the shifts of those with days off, sick, etc. this is about all I have time for. I learned more from your post about what may be coming up in the next few weeks…thank you again.

    Somehow I hope LSU will make into a good bowl game somewhere. If it is Sugar I could volunteer and go (ticket prices are steep), but if it is out of state I am just too tired.

  93. gamustangdude says: Nov 13, 2012 10:26 AM


    So what people like you fail to understand is that it’s not about 1 game. It’s about the schedule that makes the SEC so tough. Any team can win on any given Saturday so even if Florida State beats UF and Clemson beats SC, and GT beats UGA doesn’t mean they could be successful playing a SEC Schedule. If you game plan well and play mistake free football it’s anyone’s game. The reason why most fans of SEC teams say the SEC is number 1 is because of how they perform in bowl games, how well they recruit, and how many players they send to the NFL. Anyone can be beat, so those three games will hold little weight. All three of those games above are rivalry games, anything can happen.

    If you are going to dock the SEC on its OOC schedule then you have to apply that equally across the board. For Example Kansas State OOC includes powerhouses SW Mo St, Miami, and North Texas. Oregon’s OOC Arkansas St, Fresno St, and Tenn. Tech. What about their OOC schedules makes the SEC so soft? Got to be fair across the board, otherwise you’re a hypocrite

  94. southernpatriots says: Nov 13, 2012 11:32 AM


    Kudos! Wish I had more than 1 thumbs up to give.

    Recent occurences in the SEC have truly proven what you posted. Alabama played an exhausting and brutal game at LSU and were emotionally and physically flat with A&M. Not in any way to demean Johnny Football and A&M, but Alabama was not up to their normal defensive dominance and offensive push.

    The SEC opponents that Alabama recently played were all ranked in the top 25. Normally, a team does not have to leave the SEC to play 2, 3, or even 4 ranked teams in their normal SEC schedule and that would have been the case more so this season if AR had not had the Petrino scandal and lost him, and if there had not been another serious injury to Lattimore, etc. The war between the hedges each week between SEC teams can be quite brutal, truly “smash mouth.” Unpredictable and entertaining…thus this SEC fan continues to be interested after more than 50 years.

  95. gamustangdude says: Nov 13, 2012 12:10 PM


    I agree,

    Most that comment here forget that even before the Title run that began during the 2006 season, the SEC was still consistently the number 1 conference. The reason SEC teams didn’t make it to the Championship game was due to the gaunlet they had to play in the SEC. You could expect 1 loss at least. That’s why many experts say things like “a 1 loss SEC should be in the title game over undefeated Team X or undefeated Team Y.”

    To most people outside the SEC the SEC doesn’t look the dominating 1 because they don’t put up 50+ points a game. 2, because the SEC has been labled a defensive conference and the majority of thier 4-5 star recruits have been typically been on the defensive side of the ball. It seems more so in the SEC that defense wins championships. Could be why when SEC teams do play in the BCS National Title Game they are 8-0 overall. Not only that But the SEC has the most BCS Bowl wins as well at 16.

  96. normtide says: Nov 13, 2012 12:34 PM

    Your doing something right when the rest if the nation cheers because your highest rated team gets beat. As for TA&M, their move to the SEC was genius. While the espn heads was saying miz could win the east and A&M would struggle, the local pundits said A&M would fit right in and miz would take a few years to get up to speed ( it took USCe 20 years ). Now A&M is out of UT’s shadow, and has a huge recruiting chip. Bama and LSU will have yearly competition in the west. Then again, that will only make both better, as they step up to meet the new challenge. This is why the sec is the best, year in and out. Side note- Big Texas had a shot to join the SEC, but was afraid of the recruiting beasts. A&M was not, and will reap the rewards. Fortune favors the bold.

  97. southernpatriots says: Nov 13, 2012 1:02 PM


    I just got a call that a young child with asthma we rescued from his flooded house, is now laboring to breathe so I’ve got just a moment here, but
    …when I watched Alabama play A&M and knew Alabama’s recent gauntlet schedule in the SEC, I hurt inside. Like maybe a week off somewhere in the midst of that schedule would have made a difference.

    Gotta go…

  98. TxGrown says: Nov 13, 2012 2:13 PM

    @southernpatriots says:
    I just got a call that a young child with asthma we rescued from his flooded house, is now laboring to breathe so I’ve got just a moment here….”
    I commend you for your humanitarian efforts. But please……..

  99. suprmous says: Nov 13, 2012 11:50 PM

    Southernpatriots, prayers for you and the family of the youngster.

  100. parkcityute says: Nov 14, 2012 3:25 AM


    No news here in the Rockies about the hurricane down there since it hit weeks ago. How are things now? My prayers and heart go out to you and this child. I had asthma as a child. How is the child now?

    Are you able to go on your annual Appalachain mission this year? I always like hearing about that. I spent a summer in Appalachia some years ago in a summer camp. Love the people there.

    Don’t forget to post another recipe. You promised! I am still cooking the red beans, rice, and sausage for family and friends.

    Please let me know about the boy with asthma.

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