APWeek 11 saw mighty Alabama fall from its unbeaten perch.
Seven days later, Week 12 decided to one-up its predecessor by doubling up on the upset pleasure. Or pain, depending on where your fandom lies.
With No. 1 Oregon falling 21-14 in overtime to No. 14 Stanford and No. 2 Kansas State suffering a 52-24 evisceration by Baylor, just two undefeated teams remain standing after the BcS bedlam smoke had cleared: No. 3 Notre Dame and No. 6 Ohio State.
Thus, our task for this week’s poll is a simple and straightforward one: who ya got, the Irish or the Buckeyes? Or, will you go the “Another team” route in obvious reference to an SEC team or teams that shall remain nameless poll-wise?
Have at in the poll below, and bare-knuckle duke it out in the comments section below that.
ND
Who else?.
Irish. They’re just as undefeated in the B1G as tOSU in addition to playing a superior schedule to the Buckeyes. Still, lots of doubt out there that ND can be Southern Cal. I’m hoping that keeps ND motivated to not let up.
The IRISH!!!!!!!!!
It’s ND by default at this point.
If they beat USC they will be in the title game. If they can win that though is an entirely different argument.
Nd is the number 1 and deservedly so. Ok now the real shake up who gets them in the national championship. I say the sec champ. I know all the people so excited Bama went down last week and the end of the sec run but let’s just call it straight people. The sec right now has 6 teams in the top 10 of the bcs. In my book enough said they are the best conference and its not even close. To even argue it now is just to show your ignorance to the facts.
Thank you haters…keep on hatin’!!!
GO IRISH!!
Beat SC then ‘Bama!!
Irish and bama…georgia wont live to c the light of day vs bama
I hope Bama stays at 4 wcu? Really ? Can they at least only schedule one fcs opponent a year wtf
As bad as I hate to say it Notre Damn Dame. Then let em have their chance at Bama. Bring back the days of old, the days of Ara P. and the Bear. It’d definitely be interestin to see how Kelly and His Excellency Mr. Humility,not would fair against one another. My $ would be on Kelly tho I’d have 3 different opinions hangin over my head.
Irish versus Alabama will be an absolute slaughter. ND is very, very over rated. I’d take Alabama at -28.
It doesn’t matter who’s #1 right now. ND will get their chance to prove it (and will fail, IMO). Whichever team wins the SEC championship (go DAWGS!) should be in the championship game and we’ll see. I personally think the Irish fold against a pissed off USC next weekend, but they’ll get their shot to show they deserve it.
100 Rudy’s running around for ND couldn’t beat OSU. Notre Dame is such a fraud.
Bama beat Michigan in week 1. Michigan turned out to be awful this year but had their normal preseason hype. So yeah Bama did schedule a big non conference game. I also think U$C beats ND and we see 2 SEC teams in the national championship. I love when the BSC works itself out.
Why should Bama or any sec school schedule more than one fcs team in non con. There conference schedule is plenty good enough to get into a national championship. Seriously what other conference lines up multiple games against top 10 teams every year. Big 12 nope, pac 12 nope, big 10 nope, acc nope. In those conferences you may only have 1 game a yr against a top 10 team in the sec you well see at least 3 or 4 every yr.
Norte dame #1 and georgia #2 and Te’o for Heisman I also hope Florida state moves up and Alabama plays Oregon in a bowl game
17-14.
Sorry, but I live and breathe SEC and I’m not impressed this year. Aside from embarrassingly weak schedules ( and this week was a perfect example), when all we play is each other, and don’t have a dominant team (I thought it was Alabama) but not to be, I would easily put PAC 12 ahead of the Sec and add in several other dominant teams. This year it’s ND and I think the computers will confirm
Everyone does realize that ND does have the number 1 scoring defense in the nation, right? This Bama by 28 talk is silly. Would Bama be favored? Probably. But by 28? I’ll have what you’re drinking.
Just because ND is legit doesn’t mean that the SEC isn’t the best conference in the country. And just because the SEC has a lot of good teams doesn’t mean they have all the good teams.
And UGA could hang with Bama if Murray shows up.
I will admit to having been soured on Notre Dame having been over rated many times over the last decade or two, but I have to honestly say they are a real deal this year. I have been very surprised. They play my kind of football. Their D can definitely change anything you might expect from another team playing against them. I would also point out that they already played their own one “bad game” and they pulled out a win. They have only appeared stronger as the season goes on.
There is definitely going to be good football to look forward to come bowl time.
Pretty tough competition in the SEC:
Western Carolina
Jacksonville St.
Wofford
Alabama A&M
Georgia Southern
Ohio State has National Title hopes in mind. Oh wait, no they don’t. They broke the rules. Got caught. And now have to live with it. So the “they’re the real B1G and national title champs” ridiiiiiccuuuulous notions are completely stupid. Considering how many Buckeye fans jumped all over Trojan fans, seems fitting OSU fans learn to shut up.
Won’t happen though.
Unless you’re a homer, neither ND nor OSU really pass the eyeball test. That being said, OSU doesn’t have any wins even close to ND’s quality wins over Stanford and Oklahoma.
The Big Ten is absolutely horrible this year and on top of that OSU continues to schedule weak non-conference games.
millersirish1986,
“Irish and bama…georgia wont live to c the light of day vs bama”
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So what? Is the word “see” not short enough? You felt the need to use a single letter to abbreviate a three letter word? I mean why stop there? You could have abbreviated Irish with ND, could have replaced the … with a -. Heck you could have even use “&” in place of and, “da” in place of the, or “lite” in place of light.
Overall u culd hav cut 8-9 key stroks off of ur typ’n.
It was 17-14 not 21-14…
And it was a heartbreaker.
If anyone says there’s a better team than ND right now, they’re a fool.
Go Irish!
notre dame is just getting set up for the big takedown at USC next Saturday. The irish are vastly over rated and have played a bunch of cream puff teams, except for their lucky win against a much better Stanford team. Looks like Ohio State is the best team in college football and ironically they have a bowl sanction against them, talk about bad timing.
Go USC!!!
In response to kcrobert10 I’ll give you that SEC teams play a tough schedule but your comment of 3-4 top ten teams? For some it does play out this way but for Georgia? Who is their big 3 wins against? They beat Florida. Thats it plain and simple. South Carolina Crushed them, and they didn’t play LSU or Bama. So i’m not so sure Georgia deserves to be considered for the Natl’ Title. If Notre Dame loses why not put Bama vs Oregon? Out of all the 1 loss teams Oregon played the toughest in their loss. Then probably Bama. So lets see that match up go down!
All of this speculation means nothing until notre dame beats USC. Let’s talk next Sunday about the championship game. SC will be hungary for a win when they play so it should be a good game.
Barkley likely isn’t playing next week due to his injury, yet you haters still think ND is going to get killed by a 7-4 USC team. I can understand disliking a team, but let’s be real here. The only overrated team in this conversation is the preseason #1 Trojans.
“If Notre Dame loses why not put Bama vs Oregon?”
Oregon likely won’t even win the Pac-12 North. Sorry, but if you can’t even play in your conference title game, you shouldn’t be anywhere near the championship game.
@kcrobert10:
Why should Bama or any sec school schedule more than one fcs team in non con. There conference schedule is plenty good enough to get into a national championship. Seriously what other conference lines up multiple games against top 10 teams every year. Big 12 nope, pac 12 nope, big 10 nope, acc nope. In those conferences you may only have 1 game a yr against a top 10 team in the sec you well see at least 3 or 4 every yr.
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Well, this is where the ‘tough’ SEC schedule becomes a fallacy.
Alabama has not played 3 or 4 Top 10 teams. In fact, they will have only faced 1 this year in LSU during the regular season. After they beat Auburn, then they will likely face another Top 10 opponent in Georgia in the SEC Championship game.
Bama’s SEC schedule is this:
@ Arkansas (4-7)
Ole Miss (5-6)
@ Missouri (5-6)
@ Tennessee (4-7)
Miss State (8-3)
@ LSU (9-2)
Texas A&M (9-2)
Auburn (3-8)
This is a very manageable schedule with 3 games against ranked opponents. And that includes a vastly overrated Mississippi State who got spanked by the 3 decent teams they played this year.
So Bama is overrated because their schedule is soft? They played Mich, who was supposed to be good, Arkansas, who was supposed to be good, Miss St, who was supposed to be good, LSU, who is good, and Texas A&m, who’s great. You can only play who’s put in front of you. And prior to the season this schedule looked great. Can they help that some of these teams didn’t live up to expectations?
Stop hating. EVERY team plays pancake teams. Name one team who plays top 25 opponents every week. Yeah. Thought so.
RTR.
Who is hating? A statement was made that Bama plays 3 to 4 top 10 teams. That is a false statement.
Where did I say Alabama was overrated? Don’t jump to conclusions.
NOTRE DAME.
With only one eligible school undefeated at this point this isn’t even a question.
Hope USC doesn’t decide they want to show up next week.
Should Notre Dame play Alabama would God risk the wrath of Bear Bryant by siding with the Irish?
PLAYOFF PLAYOFF PLAYOFF PLAYOFF
“If Notre Dame loses why not put Bama vs Oregon?”
Oregon likely won’t even win the Pac-12 North. Sorry, but if you can’t even play in your conference title game, you shouldn’t be anywhere near the championship game.
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You mean like Alabama last year
Hey SEC go play top team in there house not these neutral site in the south(Bama vs mich) atleast Notre dame does that and that’s was a real murders row of games yesterday
Wow looks like the sec will olay for the title again lol ibterestigly enough the announcers called them out for playing soft teams at the end of there schedules. And i do see tgeir point but i also see the sec’s point they really do play a murderers row every week and thats not east coast bias thats the truth. Oregon is supremely talented but so was stanford wonder what would have happened had they stsrted the freshman the whole yr hmmmmm. Kstate got exposed and.notre dame.handled businesss now we will see if they can avoid the being number 1 jinx i love it. And as stated in my past post lets give the irish their respect of being.number until they lose. I live the parody of college football now its awesome
You guys are just proving my point. Bama played 3 ranked teams in 21 Michigan, 7 Lsu, 8 Texas a&m and gets a 4th in the sec championship that will be 5 Georgia or 6 Florida . You can say Mississippi st is over valued but they have 8 wins. Pretty good in my book. Florida has 5 bcs teams 8 Texas a&m, 7 Lsu, 5 Georgia, 9 s Carolina, and 10 Florida st. Lsu has 5 bcs teams on its schedule 25 Washington, 6 Florida, 9 s Carolina, 8 Texas a&m, 4 Alabama. Georgia has 3 bcs teams 6 Florida, 9 s Carolina, and 4 Alabama in the sec championship. Ohio st only has 2 bcs teams on its schedule 17 neb and 21 Michigan. Florida st only has 2 bcs teams 6 Florida, 11 clemson. Kansas st has 3 bcs teams 12 Oklahoma, 22 Texas tech, 23 Oklahoma st. Oregon has 4 bcs teams 25 Washington, 18 usc, 13 Oregon st 16 Stanford and a 5th in the championship game 17 ucla. Nd has 4 bcs teams 21 Michigan, 13 Stanford, 12 Oklahoma, and 18 usc. Now this is on last weeks bcs standings they will change this week but by the looks to me the sec teams play a hard enough schedules in conference. Oregon and nd play just as many but I would say the sec teams play the harder games.
by default no team that plays an fcs team should ever play for a national title Go Irish!
No matter who it is it IS NOT Oregon. Nike (Phil Knight) can thow another hundred million at them to attempt to buy a NC.
he can throw all the miney he wants lets not get it twisted its very hard to run the table no matter what conference ur in. Oregon is supremely talented and they will.he incontention fir nc for yrs to come now whether they win or not is iffy but they will.be in.contrntion. has nothing to do with pat knight and more to do with tgeir coach i like there style believe it or not they are a physical team but injuries ni mstter how talented u r will take a toll. But i think euther bama or georgia goes to nc game wobt be fl as fl state will trounce them.their d will keep them in it but that o is just terrible
Didn’t the SEC win the last (6) BCS championships?
It will be 7 this yr
All this talk about other conferences being better than the SEC I just don’t get it? Just look at the record!
1. Notre Dame
2. Notre Dame
3. Notre Dame
4. Notre Dame
5. Notre Dame
Say what you want about them. Complain all you want about them barely squeaking out wins at home against Pitt, Michigan, BYU & Purdue. The bottom line is that they did something that “the best offense in college football history” couldn’t do: they beat Stanford at home. Notre Dame went into Norman, Oklahoma & completely dominated a top 10 Oklahoma team. Also, Notre Dame hasn’t scheduled cupcake games late in the season like the vaunted SEC elite have (Alabama v. Western Carolina; South Carolina v. Wafford; Georgia v. Georgia Southern; Florida v. Jacksonville State). Notre Dame has played every week against a BCS-eligible team, whereas the SEC teams have scheduled at least 2 FCS games, some teams scheduling 3. When you play a FBS, BCS-eligible team every week, regardless of their rank & record, you are playing against some of the most talented players in the nation. While the SEC elite played JV squads, Notre Dame played another BCS conference team, Wake Forest, and dominated them. Notre Dame has won every game they played this year, something else the SEC elite haven’t been able to do. Notre Dame is head & shoulders better than the next best team in the nation & once they take care of USC in LA, with or without Matt Barkley, they will affirm their dominance. The fact some coaches gave Bama & Georgia first-place votes is a joke & more evidence why coaches shouldn’t have a vote. I can’t wait until the BCS Championship Game; I promise you that Notre Dame will beat any SEC team they match up against them & they’ll beat them handily. HERE COMES THE IRISH!!!
Alabama loose to the Irish NO WAY!!!!!!! Never will happen!!!
Notre Dame couldn’t beat Georgia!!!!!!
BREAKING NEWS, Matt Barkley won’t start next week vs. Notre Dame. Looks like UCLA did ND a HUGE favor. You people make me laugh, every body loves their on team and can’t see the forest for the freakin’ trees. Take off the whatever colored glasses and quit with the hatin’ and start the congratulating!! Don’t you just love college football, brings out the best in all of us….
ND Versus SEC – 32 w, 14 l
Against Alabama -ND 5 w – Alabama 1w
Against LSU – ND 5 w – LSU 4 w
Against UGA – UGA 1 w – ND 0 w
As a ND fan, I have been very impressed with ND this year. They won games that last year they would have lost(Stanford, Pitt). I really expected ND to go at least 10-2, and realistically 9-3 and get a bowl game, but to go undefeated, I never envisioned it.
Its nice seeing a relevant ND again, its always good for college football to have a relevant ND, because of the potential match ups that can happen.
If it comes down to Alabama/Georgia against ND, of course the SEC will have the media saying they will win, but remember this, the media had Kansas St. defeating Baylor this past weekend, and had Oregon beating Stanford as well, and that did not happen. They also had Alabama defeating Texas A&M the weekend before. Anything can happen in college football every week
NOTRE LAME!!
notre lame is the sorriest number 1 team ever in the BCS, Broken Computer System. Ohio State would wipe the floor with notre lame, too bad we won’t get to see that. notre lame plays in a sissy conference against a bunch of pansy teams, only good team they beat was Stanford and the refs jobbed Stanford so notre lame could win.
Ohio State is #1 !!!
Clemson for #3 right behind Florida State at #2. If ND loses a game, the NC should be a Clemson-Florida State rematch!!!!!
@onmiusprime
How stupid are you? Notre Dame is not in a conference!
That just shows how much you know about college FB. Those refs at Stanford were from Stanford’s conference so I’m sure they had it out for them and not ND. Did you even see the game?
Now let me see who did OSU beat this year? Oh yeah, everyone in the Little 10, oh sorry, I meant the Big 10 or is it 12? Can’t remember.
You think there is a reason the, undefeated, buckeyes are only rated #4 in the AP poll?
Too bad the OSU program is being punished (again). I would have loved to see ND shut down OSU.
Hope you enjoy seeing ND in the NC game!!!
@kappy32
“…whereas the SEC teams have scheduled at least 2 FCS games, some teams scheduling 3…”
hmm…your whole argument simply breaks down at this point. Name one SEC school who has scheduled more than one FCS school? I didn’t check them all, but LSU, ‘bama, Georgia, and Florida only scheduled 1 per. The other non-conf are typically with 2 FBS from non-auto qualifying conf (WAC/Sun Belt) and 1 FBS from an auto-qualifying conf (PAC 12/Big 10/ACC).
The SEC has nothing to prove by adding their SOS. Additionally, most other FBS schools don’t want to add the SEC to their schedules.
Try these shoes on for size:
1) Bama wins vs Auburn but loses vs Georgia
2) Georgia loses vs GT but beats Bama.
3) Florida beats FSU
4) ND loses vs USC.
5) UCLA wins the PAC12 CC
6) Oregon loses to Oregon St.
7) K-state loses to Texas
Florida vs Clemson in BCS TG. HA! Wouldn’t that be a hoot.
I don’t believe SEC teams should be ranked highly. They load their non-conference schedule with non FBS creampuffs.
The SEC is living off of past reputations right now. Other than their rivalry games this week, they have not played anyone decent save for Michigan-Bama out of conference. Examples:
LSU (Towson, Washington, Idaho, North Texas),
South Carolina (East Carolina, UAB, Wofford and this week Clemson)
Georgia (Buffalo, Florida Atlantic, Georgia Southern)
Miss. St. (Jackson St, Troy, South Alabama, Middle Tennessee)
Florida (Bowling Green 27-14, Louisiana Lafayette 27-20, Jacksonville St 23-0, a team that is 6-5 in FCS, and they score 23 points?! Does this look like the #4 BCS Team in the Country?!
People keep saying that they play someone difficult everyone each week in the SEC. Guess what, they haven’t shown anyone how good they are compared to other major conferences. So how do you know that South Carolina is a good team in College Football? In fact, a Big 12 team last year with a freshman QB has come in and taken down their top team in Bama at their place and sits at 9-2, a year after going 6-6 in the Big 12!!!
The SEC teams have only lost to each other because they haven’t played anyone that any major conference team should lose to. Play someone worthwhile out of conference once in a while, like Oklahoma did with Notre Dame, or Texas and Ohio St, USC, Miami (Fl) have over the past few years. Or at the very least, schedule some BCS conference teams. Or would a few losses actually expose the SEC that they don’t in fact have 5 of the top 10 teams in the nation? Prove it on the field.
It’s okay – Oregon is obviously the best team in the country. But go ahead and disgree with me and be wrong. You all have the right to be wrong if want to.
I don’t think you boys up north know what you’re talking about. Oregon OBVIOUSLY the best team in the country? I don’t think so. And Notre Dame such a world beater? I don’t think so. They lucked out too much this year rather than relying on talent. Alabama will easily win BCS.