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Hokie AD’s SEC comments cause fit to hit Twitter shan

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Over the past two days, both Maryland and Rutgers have officially announced they were moving their athletics programs from the ACC and Big East, respectively, to the Big Ten.  As is usually the case in these types of situations, those actual moves have spawned myriad speculative ones.

UConn or Louisville to the ACC.  North Carolina and Virginia to the Big Ten to create the first major superconference.  Florida State to the Big 12 (again).  And on and on and on it goes, with seemingly anyone with a morsel of information flinging it against the wall in the hopes that something will stick in the latest round of conference expansion.

And then there’s Jim Weaver.  The Virginia Tech athletic director, normally not one to verbally shoot from the hip, preferring to keep his athletic department’s cards close to the vest, caused quite the Twitter stir late Tuesday night with comments that may or may not have been taken out of context.

During a weekly call-in show on 101.7-FM in Southwest Virginia, Weaver was asked, David Teal of the Hampton Roads Daily Press wrote, “whether he thought the SEC would contact Tech if it wanted to start its own network.”

“I really haven’t thought about it because the discussion has just come about three or four days ago,” Weaver began, before adding, “I’d like to defer my comment for right now, but there may potentially be some interest.”

Those last five words were all it took for a social media maelstrom to erupt, with some taking the comment as Weaver acknowledging Tech’s interest in discussing a move from the ACC to the SEC.  On several levels the conjecture made sense as the Hokies have been connected to the SEC via the rumor mill going back to 2010 if not further.

An incredulous Weaver, though, attempted to clarify a short time later his school’s position on its conference affiliation.

“I just can’t believe people are misinterpreting what I said,” Weaver told Teal. “We’re not in discussions with anyone.  We’ve always wanted to be in the Atlantic Coast Conference. We’re there, and we’re pleased to be there. …

“There’s nothing happening in regard to Virginia Tech going anywhere. I don’t know how to say it any clearer than that.”

Those denials fall in line with Weaver’s stance from this past May, and pretty much any other time the Hokies have been brought up as a candidate for SEC expansion for that matter.  At least for now, it appears any Tech-to-the-SEC talk is just that, talk.  And fodder for the never-sleeping rumor mill.

Should the ACC splinter and fall apart?  Well, that’s another matter entirely, for Tech and everyone else in the ACC, Big East and beyond.

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26 Responses to “Hokie AD’s SEC comments cause fit to hit Twitter shan”
  1. tomtravis76 says: Nov 21, 2012 8:27 AM

    Send all of the conferences, all of the college presidents and AD’s on a nice two week retreat, let them make whatever deals they have to make in realignment then when the come out of those two weeks college sports will have their new identity for the next 15 years with no more movements.

  2. drummerhoff says: Nov 21, 2012 8:27 AM

    There is a rumor that the SEC is 14 school conference and always wants to be.

  3. alligatorsnapper says: Nov 21, 2012 8:43 AM

    The rumors we have heard, and also bandied around on sports talk radio, was that Mike Slive and the SEC school presidents meeting at Sandestin Hilton discussed expansion and the criteria they were looking for (e.g. good academic ranking, research facilities; good one or more athletic programs; willingness to have a long term comittment to the SEC)…“I don’t have a timetable (for the expansion issue to be resolved). I don’t know a timetable.” And another: “We’re not complacent. There’s not a moment where we don’t want to be better.” –Mike Slive.

    Apparently, they are looking for the right schools, and at least to some extent can be choosey.

  4. jonkybon says: Nov 21, 2012 9:13 AM

    alligatorsnapper says:
    Nov 21, 2012 8:43 AM
    The rumors we have heard, and also bandied around on sports talk radio, was that Mike Slive and the SEC school presidents meeting at Sandestin Hilton discussed expansion and the criteria they were looking for (e.g. good academic ranking, research facilities; good one or more athletic programs;
    _________________________________

    Obviously trying to offset the academically challanged schools that let anybody in like Ole Miss, Miss St and South Carolina. To get into any of those three you only have to spell your own name correctly 50% of the time. In the case of J. Clowney, you don’t even have to take your own SAT’s.

  5. pastabelly says: Nov 21, 2012 10:00 AM

    Swofford needs to hold Maryland to the $50 million. If he does, it will stop a lot of this. He also should add UConn NOW.

  6. igottz5onit says: Nov 21, 2012 10:01 AM

    Lol @ Jonkybon. Clowney sure is dumb but he sure can play. Should be a great game this weekend.

  7. timh1955 says: Nov 21, 2012 10:13 AM

    @jonkybon
    Maybe before you make ignorant comments as you did above about academically “challanged”schools you should learn how to spell correctly.

  8. cubano76 says: Nov 21, 2012 10:55 AM

    @timh1955

    Wut u meen?

  9. kdbroom says: Nov 21, 2012 11:20 AM

    jonkybon,

    My experience is that when people knock other schools for academics, they normally have their own self-esteem issues. Thus, the only way you can feel better about yourself is to knock down other people. You are a sad individual.

  10. intergalacticbronco says: Nov 21, 2012 11:30 AM

    @kdbroom

    Is it also a ‘self-esteem’ issue when disparaging bad football programs? There are outstanding and poor football teams just as there are outstanding and poor schools. It is a fact of life, not everyone is going to win. Don’t be so sensitive.

  11. barnesaintnoble says: Nov 21, 2012 12:36 PM

    The SEC looking for a school with great academics? Yeah right! As long as they play football and have a huge, rabid fanbase that is all that matters to them. VT will never go to the SEC because they’ll slowly fall toward Vanderbilt status there, being a good school and all.

  12. kdbroom says: Nov 21, 2012 1:08 PM

    @intergalacticbronco,

    The offending comments involved academics (“academically challanged schools”), not athletics. Nice attempt to pivot via arguing hypocrisy, when nobody on here was making any claims about athletic competitiveness (or lack thereof).

  13. intergalacticbronco says: Nov 21, 2012 1:35 PM

    @kdbroom

    You are correct in that I was pointing out the hypocrisy of your statement. You are also correct in that no one was explicitly “making any claims about athletic competitiveness “. However, this is a college football blog and nothing is debated more than the supremacy or inferiority of one football team relative to another. My question to you is why is it OK to speak negatively about attribute X of a school but not OK to speak negatively about attribute Y? All we do here is “knock” other schools for having a football program not as good as the one we choose to follow. Is that also a sign of low self-esteem? Of course not. That is the point I was making.

  14. kdbroom says: Nov 21, 2012 3:22 PM

    @intergalacticbronco,

    Apparently you don’t understand the definition of hypocrisy. It is “the practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess”. You’re implying that I’m knocking one school’s athletic standing (which I didn’t do) while trying to defend another school’s academic standing (which I did do). If I had done that, it would have been hypocritical, and your point would have been valid. However, I didn’t say anything negative about any other school….academic, athletic, or otherwise. Thus, I’m not being hypocritical, and your point is immaterial to what I said.

  15. kcrobert10 says: Nov 21, 2012 3:31 PM

    I’ve been saying it I expect the sec to get Virginia (good academic school) and Virginia tech (good football school). Before the end of this academic yr.

  16. kdbroom says: Nov 21, 2012 3:52 PM

    @kcrobert10,

    Getting UVa would be great academically for the SEC, but they haven’t been mentioned prominently as a candidate. VT? Yes. UVa? No.

    You may be proven right, but everything I’ve been hearing involves expansion into NC (via NC St.) and VA (via VT). Money is the #1 concern, and from that perspective, VT and UVa would be redundant since they’d both bring the same TV markets. That’s the main reason why NC St. and VT have been mentioned. NC St. brings all the NC television markets, and VT brings the VA/DC markets. Some of the other frequently mentioned schools (Florida St., Clemson, GT, etc.) don’t bring any new TV markets to the SEC.

  17. coolhorn46 says: Nov 21, 2012 4:43 PM

    When all the deals are done, realignment will probably shake out something like this…

    Virginia and UNC become the B1G’s 15th and 16th teams.

    Va. Tech and NC State become the SEC’s 15th and 16th teams.

    FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech, and Louisville become the Big XII’s 11th through 14th teams. 15 and 16 are yet to be determined, but eventually, the Big XII will go to 16.

    If the Big XII moves don’t happen, UT, OU, OSU, and Tech will revisit moving west to the PAC, and the PAC will listen, despite anything that’s being said today.

    What’s left of the ACC will merge with what’s left of the Big East to form one dandy basketball conference. The Mountain West, C-USA, and other leagues will make some moves too, but nobody will notice.

  18. thegamecocker says: Nov 21, 2012 5:12 PM

    @coolhorn46

    At first I dismissed your post. But after Maryland and Rutgers to the BIG, anything is possible. The only thing that is IMPOSSIBLE if for someone to find JONKYBON’S BRAIN. Perhaps during a colonoscopy.

  19. kcrobert10 says: Nov 21, 2012 5:12 PM

    I’m not so sure that the Virginia and nc legislature will allow those schools to be split.

  20. deadeye says: Nov 21, 2012 6:17 PM

    @coolhorn46

    I believe the scenario you laid out is the one most likely one to happen. However, I also think there might be a couple of other “darkhorse” outcomes to consider:

    – UVA and UNC go SEC for fear that going BIG10 would allow VT and NCST to go SEC, and that might propell them into being more popular within Virginia and North Carolina. Numerous UNC fans are calling for a move to the SEC for that very reason.

    – UVA, UNC, VT, and Duke all go SEC. This could happen if the Virginia legislature wants to keep VT and UVA together. Also, UNC and Duke would absolutely hate to break up their rivalry and they might see who is more willing to take both between BIG10 and SEC. The SEC would be more inclined to do that IMO.

    Now if SEC did take VT, UVA, UNC, and Duke, they would obviously need to go to 20, because 18 is even more unweildy than 14. I think they would consider Louisville in that scenario as #19. Not sure about #20. Personally it might make sense to move into another state for more television eyeballs. But what school would that be?

  21. coolhorn46 says: Nov 21, 2012 7:45 PM

    You never want to say never concerning realignment, but I seriously doubt any of the conferences will go above sixteen. The SEC has already found out that fourteen creates scheduling headaches, whereas sixteen allows for a more realistic conference schedule, including going to pods, as some have suggested.

    If I recall correctly, the old WAC once went to twenty teams, and it was such a scheduling nightmare that several schools split off and formed the Mountain West.

    North Carolina could go SEC, and so could Virginia, but I doubt either would. Both of those schools pride themselves on their academics, and have a lot more in common academically with the B1G schools, plus, as B1G members, they would be able to take part in the CIC consortium, which brings in millions of dollars in research money to its’ members. We saw here in Texas that the legislature didn’t put up much of a fight once agricultural found a soft landing spot in the SEC, and I’d imagine the legislatures in those states wouldn’t oppose a move as long as Va. Tech and NC State can go somewhere good, like the SEC.

    Mike Slive wants representatives in all of the old confederate states, and NC State and Va. Tech would bring value to that conference.

    The real question to me is what the Big XII will do. There are some very solid programs there for the taking, FSU, Clemson, Louisville, maybe Georgia Tech…if Deloss Dodds, the UT AD doesn’t continue to oppose expansion, I look for the Big XII to move toward expansion in the next few months. If the Big XII does NOT expand, it will ultimately be left in the dust.

    The PAC? If that conference wants to go to sixteen teams, it has to hope something bad happens to the Big XII. There simply aren’t any other candidates west of the Mississippi River worth adding to the PAC. It’s UT, OU, OSU, and Texas Tech, or stay at twelve teams.

  22. kcrobert10 says: Nov 21, 2012 8:26 PM

    Well I’ve put in my two cents but I belive that the legislatures in Virginia and north Carolina won’t let there state schools be separated. So I see the sec grabbing Virginia and Virginia tech cause the dc tv market is more important than the nc tv markets. Also your underestimating how much unc values not only the duke rival but the nc state one to same for Virginia and Virginia tech. I don’t see any conferences going past 16 either to many scheduling problems and hands on the pie. Now that said I see the big 10 getting pitt and Syracuse cause they secure there hold on the north east tv markets. The big 12 will then pick up unc, duke, nc state, Miami, Florida st, cleamson. The pac 12 will get byu, bosie st, SD st, and either Hawaii or Idaho depending on which on begs the best. Now people will say what about nd but I say they have said they want to stay indy in football ill take there word for it. Also the big east will settle in with uconn, Louisville, Cincinnati, Georgia tech, south Florida, central Florida, Xavier, Dayton, and anyone else who is left that can play plus nd’s none football sports.

  23. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 21, 2012 8:54 PM

    Cool Horn,

    The PAC-12 has already nixed OSU and Tech. PAC-12 Chancellors and University Presidents
    are on the record that the academics of both schools do not meet the minimum standards that the conference has for academics. (Explain UA and ASU)

    FSU Administrators and Faculty have nixed FSU going to the big 12, saying the conference doesn’t meet the academic standards that FSU wants. (American Association of Universities)

    Right now, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Texas are the prime candidates for PAC-12 expansion. The two problems involve Texas.

    (1.) The two Arizona schools, the two Oregon schools, Colorado and Utah do not want Texas in the conference. That is half the conference membership.

    (2.) The Longhorn Network. Unless Texas jettisons the Network or subordinate the Network to conference guidelines and revenue sharing, the PAC-12 has no interest in having Texas piggy back the LHN into the PAC-12. Texas failed big time to calm fears when Texas played UCLA last year in LA and the Texas president when told that the LHN would have to be subordinate to the PAC-12 conference for the duration of the ESPN contract, UT President Bill Powers told the PAC-12 that the decision wasn’t his, it was with Deloss Dodds. Nothing has happened since.

    (3.) BYU is actively being courted to replace Texas should Texas balk.

    Right now, UConn and Louisville are being considered for the ACC and the B1G to bring them to 16 teams.

    OU and OSU, since they are joined at the hip by the Oklahoma legislature, are being considered by the SEC to bring them to 16 teams. OU and OSU going to the SEC would kill the Big 12. The PAC-12 is not an option for OSU. Remember, the SEC only needs two teams to reach 16 teams.

    If I was handicapping the conference race. ACC, (with ND), SEC, B1G,PAC-12 are the four 16 team super conferences totaling 64 teams. The only reason is that the big 12 tv market is regional at BEST. The additions of TCU ( a market that the conference already had) and WVU (Morganstown?) did nothing to make the alphabet networks sit up and take notice. Texas and OU are the only teams that have the necessary pedigree
    and fans that make the networks perk up. Unless Texas drops the LHN and doesn’t try to be it’s usual self,
    Texas could very well be left on the sidelines all dressed up and no where to go.

  24. thegamecocker says: Nov 21, 2012 10:35 PM

    @coolhorn

    I know you feel UVA & UNC are elite schools academically and they are. But U of Fla, A& M, Vandy, Mizzou, Ga, SC are all solid academic institutions. They would be ok in SEC. Just saying

  25. deadeye says: Nov 22, 2012 2:05 AM

    @coolhorn46

    Has anyone considered that the BIG10 might go to 17 to cushion themselves against a possible Clery Act punishment from the Department of Education against PSU?

    They might yet walk away with UVA, UNC, and GT.

  26. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 22, 2012 10:18 AM

    The SEC has the formula with 14 teams. 7 team divisions with 2 cross over games and 4 non conference games. Super conference with 16 teams in two divisions would be great. 7 division games, two cross over games, and three non conference games.

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