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Gene Chizik fired from Auburn

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News of Tom O’Brien‘s firing from North Carolina State came earlier today, and as a bit of a surprise. Gene Chizik‘s fate at Auburn? Not so much.

Multiple reports Sunday, including ones from CBS Sports‘ Bruce Feldman and, claimed that Chizik has been fired one day after a 49-0 thrashing at the hands of end-all, be-all rival, Alabama. Auburn confirmed Chizik’s firing in a release a short while later.

“After careful consideration and a thorough evaluation of our football program, I have recommended that Coach Chizik not be retained,” said athletic director Jay Jacobs.  “President Gogue has accepted my recommendation.  Earlier this morning, I informed Gene that he will not return as head coach.”

A committee consisting of former players Pat Sullivan, Bo Jackson and Mac Crawford will conduct the search for a new head coach.

Here is Chizik’s statement:

I am very grateful for the opportunity that I had during the last four seasons to serve as the head football coach at Auburn University. I’m extremely disappointed with the way this season turned out and I apologize to the Auburn family and our team for what they have had to endure.

In my 27 years of coaching, I have gained an understanding of the high expectations in this profession. When expectations are not met, I understand changes must be made.

While we experienced a tremendous low in 2012, I will always be proud of the incredible highs that we achieved, including three bowl victories, an SEC championship and a national championship.

I want to thank Dr. Gogue and Jay Jacobs for the great opportunity they gave me. I’m confident in their leadership ability to continue to move this football program forward.

I feel blessed to have been surrounded with so many great coaches, players and administrators that have worked relentlessly and dedicated themselves to this institution. I will miss not being able to continue to mentor these players on a daily basis. I’m confident these young men will continue to excel both on and off the field. They are a great group and I wish them nothing but the best.

I’ve been fortunate to spend seven years of my coaching career at Auburn, which is an incredible place to work and live. My family and I have been blessed to call Auburn home and look forward to remaining in the Auburn community.

I have said this many times, but the Auburn fans are the best in college football. They have an incredible passion and love for their school and I want to thank them for their support in good times and in bad times.

As I said four years ago when I arrived, Auburn was great way before we got here and it will remain great long after we leave. My sentiments about Auburn have not and will not change. I wish the next football coach all the best and I anticipate a smooth transition.

I encourage the Auburn family to continue to be ‘All In’ and support this great university and its athletics programs. War Eagle!

Chizik leaves just two years after leading Auburn to a BCS championship over Oregon with Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Cam Newton. However, Chizik’s time on The Plains has been accompanied by an NCAA microscope on more than one occasion, including an inquiry as recently as this season.

Auburn finished 3-9 overall and 0-8 in the SEC in 2012, its worst conference record ever. In four seasons at Auburn, Chizik was 33-19 as the Tigers’ head coach. The total buyout for Chizik and his assistants is $11.09 million.

Chizik is the fourth SEC coach to lose his job this season, joining Derek Dooley (Tennessee), Joker Phillips (Kentucky) and John L. Smith (Arkansas).

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  1. timh1955 says: Nov 25, 2012 2:26 PM

    Why did Auburn hire him in the first place? He is a terrible coach with a bad record. Maybe he will do well at the high school level.

  2. thegamecocker says: Nov 25, 2012 2:28 PM

    To my friend Jon’s friends: both husband and wife are graduates of Auburn. Read it and WEEP Bitzes! You bought yourselves an NCAA NC and 2 years later your renegade team which went 0-8 in SEC this season are OUT!!! I don’t usually PILE ON WHEN SOMEONE IS DOWN, but I will in this case!! And the NCAA still has Auburn in its “short hairs”!!!!!

  3. bamafan36 says: Nov 25, 2012 2:28 PM


    If this is true, the NCAA will find the “smoking gun” surrounding the $cam Newton inveatigation (assuming they get out of paying the remainder of his contract). The Yellow Fellow will be involved. JS

  4. houndofthebaskervols says: Nov 25, 2012 2:42 PM

    Well of course my friends and family that live in Auburn told me about this last night, but I was not at liberty to say. I just hope my good friend and fishing buddy Jay Jacobs can find a suitable replacement that can once again unite the great Auburn Nation. LOL

    This was the worst Auburn team in the last 50 years, maybe of all time. Too bad Gene didnt have some of that “equity” that allowed that loser Fulmer to hang on for another 3 years in Knoxville.

  5. v2the4 says: Nov 25, 2012 2:43 PM

    sucks for chizik, but everyone knows he didnt have the pedigree to be a head coach anyway..he is a great defensive mind and will land somewhere as DC..

    hopefully the Auburn brass will not hire any retreads, but you know that in order to keep up with Saban and Miles and Muschamp, they are going to bring in some retread who has failed elsewhere….

    rumors are that Tommy Tubervilles name is in the mix, but look how Texas Tech faded down the stretch this year?

    Bobby Petrino? um, yeah sure….he has a great track record on offense, but also a track record of leaving jobs quickly and he also perfers young blondes…considering their are some very atrractive young ladies on the plains, mothers and fathers, watch your daughters…(okay that was hyperbole, but still)…..can Petrino really be trusted to stay and not look for his next oppurtunity in two years?

    I saw some people mention the names Mark Mangino and Ralph Friedgon, formerly of Kansas and Maryland respectfully? thats about 800 pounds worth of coaching pork right there, but neither will work out…

    Auburn will be in competetion with Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, NC State and others for the services of said coaches…..we will see who they decide….recruiting season will be in full swing in a month or so

  6. timh1955 says: Nov 25, 2012 2:53 PM

    Well of course all your friends in Auburn knew about his firing before anyone else. You are just in the inner circle aren’t you?

  7. lbroberts123 says: Nov 25, 2012 2:58 PM

    Well it is the entire Auburn fan base’s recommendation that Jay Jacobs not be retained as well, but Gogue is a pansy and let’s Jacobs have way too much power.

  8. houndofthebaskervols says: Nov 25, 2012 3:01 PM

    Its sort of an inside joke timh1955. You must be new to this board.

  9. tommy57 says: Nov 25, 2012 3:12 PM

    Yeah, he had to go. More of them to follow. Auburn needs to re-tool the program.

  10. jimbo75025 says: Nov 25, 2012 3:12 PM

    I gotta ask the obvious here and say why now? It is my understanding if they waited a week or so, they would have saved a few million? You guys crapping out that much money down there on the Plains? Just start openly begin your search and then formally let him go on Dec 3 or whatever and save some cash for your next coach.

  11. scalpemseminoles says: Nov 25, 2012 3:12 PM

    Can we get chizik to call Florida State’s offense please?

  12. thegamecocker says: Nov 25, 2012 3:15 PM

    I cannot believe Jay Jacobs gets to keep his job! That is just the ultimate insult as he was the Paunchess Pilot that hired Chizek the bottom feeder who hired Scam Newton and his Pastard father! Paul Finebaum should be hired as the new AD at Auburn. Maybe Tammy should join Pat Sullivan & Bo on the search committee!

    In all seriousness, why isn’t Pat Sullivan being considered for the AD job? He brings instant credibility to a program that desperately needs it!

  13. timh1955 says: Nov 25, 2012 3:15 PM

    Not new but I don’t see all the posts. Sorry to be sarcastic with you.

  14. thefiesty1 says: Nov 25, 2012 3:24 PM

    He’s more than welcome to come back as DC at Texas again. Maybe he can teach these guys how to tackle. Top recruits and poor coaching seems to be the norm around here since he heft.

  15. rolltide510 says: Nov 25, 2012 3:24 PM

    I’ll bet Gene wrote that when Cam declared for the draft, and just left the specific dates blank.

  16. dfalcon3522 says: Nov 25, 2012 4:06 PM

    Wow! That came out of nowhere! Lol

  17. 32maniac says: Nov 25, 2012 4:21 PM

    Bobby Petrino as next Auburn coach?!! Yeah.. with the NCAA microscope on Auburn right now… Petrino is JUST what Auburn needs!!

    By the way, Cam doesn’t give 2 sh*ts about what happens to Auburn. Don’t think so? Ask him.

    You Auburn fans are phucking idiots!!!

  18. lrg51 says: Nov 25, 2012 4:29 PM


    “Paunchess Pilot”? LOL… Too funny… Did you sleep through your world history classes?

  19. timh1955 says: Nov 25, 2012 4:38 PM


    It’s Pontius Pilate!

    Also isn’t Pat Sullivan the coach at Samford?

  20. kozbee says: Nov 25, 2012 4:56 PM

    @ dfalcon

    No actually it didn`t come out of nowhere i think hes been waiting for this since last season.Year they won the National Championship was due to a fairly good team with most help from Nick Fairley and Newton.I figured Auburn would wait till after Dec 2nd in order to save 3 million but i guess it means more to the Tigers letting Gene go then the money.Its time they did what had to be done cause Chizik was just hurting the program imo.Gene will be hired somewhere as a DC and hope they can make the right decision next time hiring a head coach.By the way 32maniac your wrong,Newton has been back to Auburn a few times visting schools and talking to young kids about staying in school and getting an education imo i give him alot of credit helping and talking to the youth of today.If kids don`t have an education they cant find jobs so sit back in your doublewide and think about being an idiot before calling others the same.

  21. jimbo75025 says: Nov 25, 2012 5:00 PM

    kozbee says:
    Nov 25, 2012 4:56 PM
    Newton has been back to Auburn a few times visting schools and talking to young kids about staying in school and getting an education
    Yes, since he is such a great example of what staying in school can do for you. Exactly what classes did he take in his few months at Auburn?

  22. kozbee says: Nov 25, 2012 5:04 PM

    Smart from the Tide just might be offered the job atleast he would be a top choice for the Tigers.Good recruiter Smart is and sure he is what they might need to rebuild.Bobby Petrino i doubt will be hired but who knows,wish them all the luck.Goodluck Tide going into the SEC Championship hope y`all can keep the crystal ball in the SEC.ROLL TIDE

  23. kozbee says: Nov 25, 2012 5:07 PM


    Some people look at it as helping kids think about it and learn.

  24. thegamecocker says: Nov 25, 2012 5:50 PM


    Cam Newton telling kids to stay in school is him being a hypocrite. Oh wait, that would be consistent with his other character flaws of stealing and cheating! Never mind.

  25. pedagoguish says: Nov 25, 2012 6:04 PM

    For certain, Chizik can find a coaching job in the JUCO ranks. In fact, he can take the entire Auburn football squad with him.

  26. pedagoguish says: Nov 25, 2012 6:09 PM

    In truth, the only reason anyone outside the SEC knows that Auburn even exists is because they play a rivalry game with Alabama at the end of the year. My Alabama friends tell me Auburn is nothing more than a trailer park. Is this correct?

  27. huck630 says: Nov 25, 2012 6:11 PM

    The only thing amazing about this so far is that no one has mentioned Jon Gruden’s name as a possible replacement…yet. Oh, I forgot, he’s going to Tennessee, or Philadelphia, or name a place.

  28. cosanostra71 says: Nov 25, 2012 6:13 PM

    Chizik can come be the DC for the Trojans! Yeah right, I wish.

  29. jimbo75025 says: Nov 25, 2012 6:17 PM

    kozbee says:
    Nov 25, 2012 5:07 PM
    Some people look at it as helping kids think about it and learn.
    And some of believe in leading by example-not by stealing laptops and selling your services for one year to the highest bidder. Cam-in theory anyway-has had 3(or more) years of college-1 at UF, 1 at Blinn, then 1 (ha ha) at Auburn. How close is he to getting a degree?

  30. thegamecocker says: Nov 25, 2012 6:56 PM


    Right on brother! I’d like to know how many credits he earned at Florida? At Blinn Jr College (or is it Bling JC)? and how many credits at earned at Auburn? I’d like to know if any Auburn student ever saw Cam Newton in any class they may have had with him? And he’s telling kids to remain in school? He’s a fake, phony, fraud of a role model for kids. I wouldn’t have any kid of mine ever listen to that cheater and thief! Cam Newton….brought to you by Gene Chizek! And Auburn wonders why they are so hated by other institutions. Jacobs should be next to go!

  31. cometkazie says: Nov 25, 2012 7:11 PM

    Surely he would have been making academic progress or he wouldn’t have played, right?

  32. thegamecocker says: Nov 25, 2012 7:22 PM


    Yes, of course he made progress! About as much progress as the LA police have had tracking down the killer of Nicole Simpson and the young man she was with. LOL

  33. normtide says: Nov 25, 2012 7:38 PM

    From my understanding, they let him know today, but it won’t be official till Dec 1st. Everything local says his buyout wool be 7.5 mill, and total staff and him will be 11.09 mill.

    As for Cam, I know what I believe happened, but all in all, that’s the past and is over. The results on the field won’t change. I prefer to focus my energy on the present and future.

    Also want to give a grats to my SEC brothers on the non-conference wins. Florida State and Clemson were exposed.

  34. gorilladunk says: Nov 25, 2012 8:52 PM

    @baskervols….I get it and I’m laughing out loud!

  35. ajonesmc931 says: Nov 25, 2012 8:53 PM

    They let him go today. The buyout amt is on a weekly basis so AU only had to pay ab 200,000 extra by not waitin till dec1. So the amt will be about 7.7 mil

  36. iamjimmyjack says: Nov 25, 2012 9:01 PM

    If your a USC fan and you want Boise State coach Chris Peterson, like this comment!

  37. thegamecocker says: Nov 25, 2012 9:12 PM


    I must give credit to Coach Dabo Sweeney for being a gracious loser. He said the right things after the game without inciting any ill feelings. This rivalry is already a powder keg and he diffused it which showed good sportsmanship. South Carolina played a very good game last night dominating time of possession and keeping Clemson’s wideouts under control. All the coaches need to be congratulated along with the team. All in all, it was a successful season at 10-2 for Carolina. Onto the bowl game.

  38. timh1955 says: Nov 25, 2012 9:28 PM

    Boise State and Chris Petersen are the most overrated team and coach in the history of college football!!!

  39. thefiesty1 says: Nov 25, 2012 11:15 PM

    Can he come back to Austin and coach these guys how to tackle?

  40. kozbee says: Nov 26, 2012 12:16 AM

    @ gamecocker

    I can understand your hate for Auburn,when was the last time SC beat Auburn,wasnt it back in the 1900`s.South Carolina and the drunk of a QB the last few seasons,yea guess thats where your hate comes from.And the year they won the NC they best y`all in regular season and the SEC Championship the same year,ole ball coach y`all got just cant win the big ones.

  41. kozbee says: Nov 26, 2012 12:53 AM

    Open coaches for the job.

    Bobby Petrino, Charlie Strong, Chris Petersen, Dan Mullen, Dan Roushar, Dana Holgorsen, David Cutcliffe, Doug Barfield, Gary Patterson, Gene Chizik, Gus Malzahn, James Franklin, Jimbo Fisher, Kevin Wilson, Kirby Smart, Kliff Kingsbury, Lorenzo Ward, Manny Diaz, Mario Cristobal, Mark Stoops, Mike MacIntyre, Pat Dye, Pat Narduzzi, Ralph “Shug” Jordan, Rick Stockstill, Skip Holtz, Sonny Dykes, Steve Addazio, Terry Bowden, Tim Beckman, Tim Stowers, Todd Berry, Todd Monken, Tommy Tuberville, Will Muschamp, Willie Taggart

    Hope you Auburn fans can get the right man to coach this time.

  42. thesheepdoghsv says: Nov 26, 2012 2:01 AM

    I hate to see anyone lose their job, especially for a stand up guy like Chizik. Expected him to be on the short end of things after that game with Alabama.

    As to the players, if you worked for me… you might be looking for a new job as well, but winning isn’t everything. To me if they don’t produce, they don’t benefit either.

    Everyone likes to beat up on old Auburn. Expecially Alabama. Having attended both schools, we always thought it was funny that those fans who were some of the most outspoken and hateful towards either team never even darkened the doors of either institution. All that childishness aside, I do wish Coach Chizik all the best and hope that Auburn is able to find a good coach soon. Auburn did obtain a national title under his leadership and I was proud for them. I grieved for them this year as it seemed that nothing seemed to work out. This investigation, seems pretty interesting that these pop up just before the Iron Bowl game. Did two years ago and was intended to rattle them, which this year it seemed to. But that is just speculation on my part. Seems funny to me that Alabama can have so many strong years without any investigations, and again that is coming from someone who attended both schools.

    Folks, tough time to loose a job with Christmas coming up, but you don’t hear much about that from the fans.

  43. bamafan36 says: Nov 26, 2012 7:28 AM

    I am certain, the NCAA is ALWAYS looking at Bama. However, Nick Saban either knows how to cover his tracks, or he is not cheating. The Barn is being looked at because of Newton and his illegal recruitment. They will find the evidence, if they fired Chiz for cause, and get out of paying him. Someone said that if tbey had waited until December 3rd, they would have saved some $3mil. That was probably by design…. We call that “hush money”.

    Not to be a butt, but you spelled “especially” the way you most likely say it. It is that statement (plus the one where you talk about the troubles of a millionaire losing his job around Christmas) that discredit’s your entire argument. In addition, there is no bylaw that says you must be a graduate, in order to be a fan.

  44. florida727 says: Nov 26, 2012 8:00 AM

    Obviously this firing came as no surprise, but if what another post on here says is true about the university COULD have saved $3 million by waiting until December 2nd to let him go, then they’re proving how stupid they really can be. 12/2 is, literally, what, 8 days away? Who the heck are they going to land in 8 days that makes firing him NOW so critically important? Again, that’s IF the other post is accurate. John Taylor, any way to find out?

    Also, love his parting, well-scripted, statement:
    “My family and I have been blessed to call Auburn home and look forward to remaining in the Auburn community. I have said this many times, but the Auburn fans are the best in college football.”

    TRANSLATION: I live in a huge freaking house that’ll take a long time to sell, so please don’t egg or toilet paper it, and I promise I’ll move as soon as I can find a buyer. AND: Auburn fans are the best in college football… until I get a new job, whose school will of course then have “the best fans in college football”.

    Do fired coaches have their own website where they download these departure messages from? Just curious…

  45. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 9:27 AM


    The Pastor Newton wrote it for him. This time it was a “freebie”.

  46. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 9:35 AM


    “Auburn did obtain a national title under his leadership and I was proud for them.”

    Yes Sheepdog, Auburn did OBTAIN A NC BY ALLOWING AN ATHLETE TO PLAY WHO WAS NOT A STUDENT AND WHOSE FATHER TRIED TO PEDDLE HIM AROUND TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER! And you say you’re proud of that while criticizing others for Chizik to be out of a job around the holiday season. He will receive $7.7 million over the next 48 months! Cam Newton: thrown out of U. of Florida for stealing and cheating! And you attended both universities? Tell me, what did you learn b/c your post indicates you know little and you are naive. That is all.

  47. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 9:44 AM

    Tell that to Clemson who we have now beaten 4 straight years. The only legitimate time Auburn beat SC was 2011 when they came to Columbia and upset us. The other two time they used an ineligible player by today’s standards. I’ll take the Head Ball Coach and two back-to-back 10-2 seasons. You obviously must be a fan of a school SOS has dominated over the years. Keep the hate coming b/c we thrive on that! Haven’t heard much from your brother, Jonkeybon. Another Clemson masochist.

  48. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 9:54 AM

    Here, here Bamafan. Absolutely agree one does not have to be a graduate or student to be a fan.

  49. v2the4 says: Nov 26, 2012 9:59 AM


    you’ve been saying some nasty and disgusting things about Cam Newton since this post came out…..are you still mad about Cam beating the gamcocks twice in 2010?

    and, if you have any personal proof he did not attend auburn and was not a student at any time, please present your proof here and submit it to the ncaa….Im sure if Cam was allowed to do what you said he did, then it probably happens at nearly every sec school as well.

    additionally, yes, Cam was suspended by Florida when he was found with the stolen laptop in his dorm room and tried to lie to police by throwing it out the window…he was arrested, released on his recognize and performed community service and the charges were dropped…this is America, everyone deserves second changes..

    stop assualting the young mans character because of your deep man hate and penis envy

  50. ebrownwareagle says: Nov 26, 2012 10:03 AM


    LIG it man! Translation LET iT GO! It’s white noise! Auburn has ALWAYS historically been a better school than SC!

  51. ebrownwareagle says: Nov 26, 2012 10:06 AM


    Well Said!

  52. bamafan36 says: Nov 26, 2012 10:07 AM

    $cam Newton left UF after the third time he was caught cheating. His father tried to sell him to the highest bidder, according to his father. He is a liar, a thief, and a cry-baby. And, I stole his girl friend. I go “places”, he can’t. LOL

  53. thesheepdoghsv says: Nov 26, 2012 10:10 AM

    My goodness, it seems my comments have opened me for a personal attack. Remember y’all this is just football we are talking about here, not real life. One suggestion was made, obviously by a fan, that Alabama knew how to cover its tracks or wasn’t guilty. Hopefully, the latter is the case as we all know that eventually all things hidden in secret will come to light. If Auburn has done anything wrong it will be either vindicated by the investigation or will suffer consequences. Again, I attended both schools, so I hope that both perform well, but it either has done anything wrong I hope it comes to light as we Alabamians should be hoping for the scholastic success of our young men and women rather than their success as the common labor in football. Teaching them on how to be successful as a cheat is not one of my goals at least.

  54. ebrownwareagle says: Nov 26, 2012 10:18 AM


    STOP It! I played at Auburn. While my cousin played at “Alabamer”! I KNOW about the TEAM BENEVOLENCE FUND! Every School THUMBS THRU THE CHECK! You bet that!

  55. ebrownwareagle says: Nov 26, 2012 10:22 AM


    Your probably exactly the person @thesheepdoghsv was talking about. NEVER ATTENDED A CLASS AT Bama! Yet want to degrade someone else accomplishments at Auburn. Damn Shame! Go TIP YOUR COWS And go play with your friend Harvey UpDICK and Sandusky!

  56. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 10:25 AM

    ” Again, I attended both schools, so I hope that both perform well, but it either has done anything wrong I hope it comes to light as we Alabamians should be hoping for the scholastic success of our young men and women rather than their success as the common labor in football. Teaching them on how to be successful as a cheat is not one of my goals at least.”

    This is true at U. of Alabama; but not so much at Auburn.

  57. ebrownwareagle says: Nov 26, 2012 10:27 AM


    So explain why in the 90’s The NCAA thought about giving “BAMER” the death penalty.

  58. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 10:27 AM

    You played at Auburn….I hope you graduated. Let me be specific: I hope you earned a degree and you are working. Earning a degree is what it should have been all about. I truly hope you earned your degree.

  59. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 10:33 AM

    I don’t mind losing fair and square like in 2011 when Auburn beat SC with a legitimate team. As for your comment re “penis envy”, I’ll just let you deal with that since that subject is obviously on your mind. For the record though, I choose not to roll that way. What you do in your personal life is your business and I am tolerant. Just don’t try and bring it my way. Now go away.

  60. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 10:35 AM

    Yup, I agree with your comments because they are accurate and truthful.

  61. ebrownwareagle says: Nov 26, 2012 10:36 AM

    Yeah CoCKER… Degree, Job, and even manage to get a Wife and some Kids!

  62. thesheepdoghsv says: Nov 26, 2012 10:38 AM

    You know I am puzzled on one thing, football being a minor issue to me, why has Alabama adopted the same crooked “A” as the Atlanta Braves? I am surprized that Atlanta hasn’t looked into Alabama for copyright violations. Know we are talking about a classic font here, but it is a big red “A” and it happens to be offset like the Braves.

  63. raseman says: Nov 26, 2012 10:58 AM

    Good riddance….Cam can’t carry you on his back anymore. He has bigger fish to fry and it sure as hell ain’t Chizzick (sp..I know). War Eagle.

  64. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 11:04 AM


    Great! Enjoy the holiday season with your Family. Hope Auburn selects a high-character coach this time. Bur first the school should replace Jay Jacobs with someone like Pat Sullivan or Bo Jackson. Really, that guy needs to be relieved of his duties.

  65. ebrownwareagle says: Nov 26, 2012 11:04 AM

    #Kirby Smart!

  66. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 11:09 AM


    The NCAA did give “Bamer” the death penalty: It was in the form of a head coach: Shula :)

  67. thesheepdoghsv says: Nov 26, 2012 11:09 AM

    It is old history now, but when Alabama got beat by Auburn (the year of its national title) I had one Bama fan tell me that Auburn really didn’t win. Bama did. Auburn played bad and Alabama looked much better, therefore Bama really won. Again, I attended both schools, the Bama fan in question didn’t… and I was quite surprized that you could win based on fashion or flair rather than by what the scoreboard posted. This is the kind of Bama fan that I have problems with. Sure, you can pick your team and that is fine with me. Heaven knows we can sure use the money from all those Officially syndicated Alabama and Auburn jerseys and caps. Those who duck paying royalties, shame on you.

  68. v2the4 says: Nov 26, 2012 11:16 AM

    my bad gamecocker…I wasnt insuiating that you are or have any you know “feelings” for another man…was just suggesting that in the course of conversation..

    speaking of Cam newton, I have him on one of my fantasty teams, and since I up by 20 points, let me put his behind on the bench before his sacks and turnovers give me a negative 21 points tonight

  69. timh1955 says: Nov 26, 2012 12:32 PM


    The “A” for the Alabama logo is not the same as the Braves logo. Any five year old can see the difference. Maybe that’s the reason the Braves don’t have a problem with it. By the way, are you an Auburn graduate?

  70. tigersntony says: Nov 26, 2012 1:09 PM

    @timh1955 The Bama A has a mullet.

  71. tigersntony says: Nov 26, 2012 1:20 PM

    I like Chizik as a person. I love him as a DC. I think like in everything in life, you are promoted to one step higher than you can perform.

    My problem was not that the offense struggled, there are reasons enough with the loss of Malzahn but the defense should have been stronger. We looked like the kids came right off of the field from high school and suited up. I know that is the case with the QB. I understand that we lost a lot of experienced players on both sides of the ball, but there was no improvement over the year.

    I never have and never will apologize for being an Auburn fan and if my degree is good enough for the DOD then I guess that is all that matters.

    Get over Cam. He was shopped by his dad to Miss. State. He said it, they said it. Everyone else assumes he was shopped at Auburn too. In the wake of a very exhaustive investigation, that has never been proven. There was no money trail to be found. Cam is no longer at Auburn. He won the Heisman because he was the best player in the country. We won the NC because we were the best team. We didn’t do it with a loss or by hoping someone else lost so we could get into the title. The years Bama has won the NC it was because they proved it on the field. So did Auburn. Let it go. Move on. Deep breaths. Oohhmmmmmm…. oohhmmmm…

    Should we not all be proud that not only has the NC not left the SEC in the last however many years, it hasn’t even left the state of Alabama for the last 3 and working on 4 years.

  72. cometkazie says: Nov 26, 2012 1:50 PM

    I wish we had a filter here that would remove the bloviators and let the levelheaded msgs discussing football through.

    Lots of good material here but I have to wade thru a lot of bs to get to it.

    After all, it’s just a game.

  73. normtide says: Nov 26, 2012 2:26 PM

    Ty Tony. What is lost in all this fuss is the fact that our state has won 3 straight bcs titles. That is pretty amazing in modern football.

    I read an ingesting article about Chizik, that he envied Gus a little. Also that her became lax about player workouts. I have no idea if it is true. To me, the defensive struggles are what cost him the job. I remember in 2011, my AU friends said 2012 was setting up as another great year on the plains. Chizik just could not get his players developed, and all on board. Here is hoping y’all make the right hire. Bama and AU are tied at the hip, like it or not. The better one is, the better the other has to be.

  74. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 3:35 PM

    LOL. OK —–no harm, no foul. After all the posts I’ve written about Newton, I’ve vented enough. People know how I feel and enough is enough! Even I’m sick of my rants!!!

  75. cometkazie says: Nov 26, 2012 3:48 PM

    thegamecocker says:
    Nov 26, 2012 3:35 PM
    LOL. OK —–no harm, no foul. After all the posts I’ve written about Newton, I’ve vented enough. People know how I feel and enough is enough! Even I’m sick of my rants!!!

    All ranted out!

    At least you made sense. (Mostly)

  76. kozbee says: Nov 26, 2012 5:24 PM

    @ gamecocker

    What about the $55,000.00 in benefits South Carolina improper received

    The school said it will reduce football scholarships by one in 2012-13, by three in 2013-14 and by two in 2014-15. The football team will reduce its official visits from 56 to 30 in 2012-2013.

    ( i wonder why )

    The NCAA found the Whitney Hotel charged a rate of $14.95 per athlete for two-bedroom suites. The NCAA said the rate should’ve been more than $57 per night for each athlete. One football player who spent more than year at the hotel, the NCAA said, received an extra benefit worth $19,280.

    plenty more South Carolina history gamecocker..

  77. thegamecocker says: Nov 26, 2012 6:45 PM


    You’re just jealous because they only found $55,000. Many of these kids are dirt poor and probably didn’t know the value of the room charge to begin with. LIG! Let It Go! Get on with your life. I’ll only bring up you know whose name if and when he gets in trouble. And trouble usually finds nefarious people like him. Now let’s move on.

  78. kozbee says: Nov 27, 2012 12:54 AM

    @ thegamecocker

    South Carolina Coach Steve Spurrier dismissed Garcia from the team after Garcia failed an alcohol test, Gary Garcia said. Stephen Garcia, who had five previous suspensions from the team for various offenses, was subject to a zero-tolerance agreement with the university and with Spurrier.

    Gary Garcia said the family felt no resentment toward the university because there was a firm agreement in place and Stephen Garcia, 23, broke the deal that led to his reinstatement to the team in August after a previous offense.
    from the team for various offenses, was subject to a zero-tolerance agreement with the university and with Spurrier.

    (You talk alot of smack about other fans and when it shows the cocks being on probation then you want to let it move on.)

    Stephen Garcia, who had five previous suspensions from the team for various offenses, was subject to a zero-tolerance agreement with the university and with Spurrier. FIVE PREVIOUS SUSPENSIONS !? He did alot of azz kissin,even heard rumors from fellow team members before a couple games they smelled booze on him.Ole ball coach played the drunk anyways,guess a HC will go far to win a SEC Championship,but then cant win the big ones,Newton beat y`all.>This ones for the Auburn fans..< Ready to move on !!

  79. kozbee says: Nov 27, 2012 1:27 AM

    Here i want to prove a point that in one time or another or more times then once just about every team has been in trouble and probation.

  80. alligatorsnapper says: Nov 27, 2012 8:00 AM

    I did not know Bama was considered for the Death Penalty a few years back. I do know they lost ALL wins for one season and about HALF for another season as a penalty. That will really mess up your 5 year and 10 year percentages.

  81. cometkazie says: Nov 27, 2012 8:27 AM

    alligatorsnapper says:
    Nov 27, 2012 8:00 AM
    I did not know Bama was considered for the Death Penalty a few years back. I do know they lost ALL wins for one season and about HALF for another season as a penalty. That will really mess up your 5 year and 10 year percentages.

    Does anyone pay attention to those, tho?

    I think it gave a win to LSU but there is no talking point in that. We still lost on the field of play.

  82. thegamecocker says: Nov 27, 2012 9:34 AM


    Let’s compare Stephen Garcia to Cam Newton.

    Garcia graduated in 3.5 years and was taking graduate courses when he was dismissed from the team. Newton took his classes on-line, spent perhaps 2 semesters at Auburn and obviously never earned a degree.

    The most serious offense Garcia ever did was a key a car for which he paid for repair. He was cited for underage drinking a number of times. He also initiated some pranks involving a fire hose and other childish incidents. He is a member in good standing at the University.

    Newton was dismissed from the U. of Fla. for stealing, lying, and cheating.

    Gary Garcia, Father of Stephen, NEVER peddled his son to the “highest bidding” school.

    Newton’s father attempted to gain money from Miss St U. and has been BANNED from Auburn University athletic events.

    My conclusion is Cam Newton was never a Student-Athlete in the true sense of the word. Stephen Garcia was a Student-Athlete and proved it on the field of play AND in the classroom. Garcia paid a hefty price during his collegiate career by being dismissed from the team in his senior season. Coach Spurrier took a reputation hit from people like yourself for giving Garcia a number of chances.
    Futhermore, I would take the character of Stephen Garcia over Cam Newton anyday.

    BTW, I compliment you on the NCAA research compilation you exposed in your follow-up post.
    Yes, I am ready to move on.

  83. bamafan36 says: Nov 27, 2012 11:54 AM

    When a win is vacated, the other team still has the loss. Case-in-point: Ohio State vs Arkansas, last year. OSU vacates the win, but, Arkansas still gets credit for the loss.

  84. kozbee says: Nov 28, 2012 12:13 AM

    Wrong i hate Uncle Clem as we call them maybe more then you as fact.My favorite team is Arkansas second Bama and 3rd Auburn.Got my degree from Auburn,my dad got his from Ark and my daughter just Got her Sports Medi degree from Bama.My brother went to South Carolina.SEC family

  85. thegamecocker says: Nov 28, 2012 9:07 AM


    Your Family is well-educated and I too would be proud of those achievements. I guess my only question is this: you earned your degree from Auburn yet they are listed as your 3rd favorite school behind Arkansas and The Tide. Why do you have Auburn ranked 3rd under those circumstances?

    I graduated from South Carolina and my two daughters from Rutgers. However I am loyal to Carolina FIRST and RU 2nd.

  86. kozbee says: Nov 29, 2012 12:53 AM

    Thru my teen years most games i went to Ark and it was a way of life as a razorback.Then moved to Auburn Alabama got married and went to college there cause that was the best job i could get there to pay my way.Now my daughter works in Aiken South Carolina and we`re planning a move there ourselfs when my wife retires in Jan.Building a new house in Trolley Run,Aiken to be close to my grand kids.Im a retired PT and my wife will be a retired Lawyer.

  87. cometkazie says: Nov 29, 2012 8:17 AM

    I guess if you stay in the south, you are in SEC country.

    I can’t find that many SEC football fans up here in the BlueGrass but, with basketball starting, their fans are coming out of hibernation.

  88. thegamecocker says: Nov 29, 2012 9:41 AM


    When you move to SC, I hope you will experience an epiphany and become a U. of South Carolina Fighting Gamecock fan! That will add years to your life. South Carolina residents are all friendly, respectful, and tolerant…..except for Clemson folk! Enjoy the grand kids.

  89. thesheepdoghsv says: Nov 29, 2012 2:28 PM

    Tim1935, that was a dirty dig about my comment about the “A” and I am sure you intended it that way. Yes, I am an Auburn graduate. I got my UG and Masters there. I then went on to get my JD from Alabama. From there I went on to SU get a second doctorate, so I guess you could say that I have some investment in both colleges and higher education in general. Degrees and vitae asside, as that is only a small part of someone’s life, I love both schools and although I don’t think that anyone must be an alum to support a particular school, it does make you appreciate the schools for something other than football. Perhaps that gives me reason to cut the AU coach some slack. He was under contract with the school and if he didn’t produce as stated in the contract he was in breach of contract. Pure and simple. Auburn wasn’t out to can him, but the rules of his employment were stated on the paper.

  90. thegamecocker says: Nov 30, 2012 11:07 AM


    Counselor: speaking strictly as a football fan, when Auburn plays THE University of Alabama, which team do you root for? You state you “love both schools”. But which one do you root for when they play against each other?

    This will help you going forward….consider it free therapy. Let me help you a little bit: being a lawyer and all, would you support a university that takes a NON-STUDENT but an excellent athlete? Would you support a university that allows a student who was DISMISSED from another major university for STEALING, LYING, AND CHEATING? I hope this helps you in answering my question. Have a quality day, Dr / ESQ.

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