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Poll: Tide-Irish title-game winner will be…

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After fourteen weeks of the 2012 season, we’re now down to two.

The No. 1 Notre Dame Fighting Irish, the only eligible unbeaten left standing, versus the No. 2 Alabama Crimson Tide, the one-loss defending champion, in a winner-takes-all matchup for this year’s BCS championship Jan. 7 in Miami.

Both programs will bring storied traditions into what will be one of the most anticipated title games in the BCS era, armed with a record eight Associated Press titles apiece.  The Irish will be playing for its first national championship since 1988, the Tide gunning for its third BCS title in four years.

Notre Dame will be looking to become not only the first non-SEC team to win a BCS title since the 2005 season, they will be looking to become the first non-conference team to beat an SEC team in the title game — seven appearances, seven wins.  Meanwhile, Alabama will be charged with extending its league’s unprecedented streak of BCS titles to seven in a row.

North vs. South.  Catholics vs. Christians.  Whatever trite tag gets slapped on it, this game is shaping up to be a true Game of The Century.  Not because of the massive hype that will surely spiral out of control over the next five weeks, either; rather, it will pit a pair of evenly-matched teams whose strengths — and weaknesses — are eerily similar once you strip the invincible SEC veneer off the Tide and remove the Irish-colored glasses.

So, there you have it.  Notre Dame vs. Alabama for all the crystal.

Now, who ya got?  A back-to-[blank]-to-back-to-back extension of the SEC’s dominance over the college football world, or a program dripping with tradition returning to what they believe is their rightful place in the heirarchy of the sport?

Vote below and, God help us all, let your feelings be known in the comments section below that.

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95 Responses to “Poll: Tide-Irish title-game winner will be…”
  1. irishking says: Dec 1, 2012 10:25 PM

    I believe the game will be very similar to the 1973 Sugar Bowl. One crucial mistake will make all the difference in the outcome. Just my take on it.

  2. goodellsadouche says: Dec 1, 2012 10:28 PM

    ” Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth. ” — Mike Tyson

  3. normtide says: Dec 1, 2012 10:33 PM

    The two most hated entities in college football, ND and the SEC, slugging it out for the title. Sign me up, can’t wait.

  4. barbeaux says: Dec 1, 2012 10:34 PM

    Given the long gap until the game there’s a huge advantage that an SEC team has that I believe has led to the 6 game championship streak. It will continue. 21-7 Bama.

  5. mannydomer61 says: Dec 1, 2012 10:34 PM

    UGA poor tackling the entire night great running attack by bama, should be a great title game.

  6. bamafan36 says: Dec 1, 2012 10:42 PM

    Bama wins BIG! This may be a shut-out! But, I think the Irish accidentally find the end-zone, once.
    Bama – 45
    ND – 10

  7. bamasleeper13 says: Dec 1, 2012 10:43 PM

    Should be epic! Bring it on! ROLL TIDE ! # 15!!

  8. thefiesty1 says: Dec 1, 2012 10:45 PM

    Sounds like a boring defensive football game. II jus like last year, only LSU didn’t show up. Which one will show up this year!? Should be Oregon against a good defensive team.

  9. kozbee says: Dec 1, 2012 10:48 PM

    I call it a close game,Bama wins.

    Bama 35

    ND 24

  10. normtide says: Dec 1, 2012 10:52 PM

    Why do people think football is a television drama that should be scripted to what they think would be entertaining? Its a sport, you earn your way. You actually keep score, every team isn’t getting to get trophy, there will not bee juice boxes afterward. It is not a form of pop culture. Btw, we have seen Oregon play good defenses every year, it doesn’t end well for them. The title game has the teams that deserve to be there.

  11. bamagirl33 says: Dec 1, 2012 10:55 PM

    Sorry Golden Dimers, it is gonna be the Tide rolling in Miami.

  12. aglawman says: Dec 1, 2012 10:58 PM

    “Catholics vs. Christians”???

    Are you an idiot???

    The phrase should be “Catholics vs. Protestants”…learn your subject matter before you show your ignorance.

  13. 8man says: Dec 1, 2012 11:03 PM

    Alabama has had the far tougher schedule and is battle tested.

    Tide Roll. A decisive win.

  14. pens5829 says: Dec 1, 2012 11:05 PM

    Pitt racked up a ton of yards on the ground and the only reasons ND won that game was sh*tty officiating and a missed FG. If Pitt’s o-line can do that to ND, the Tide surely will Roll. Ask Coach Kelly how he did last time he played in a BCS bowl against an SEC team. Florida embarrassed Cincinnati.

    Roll Tide!

  15. loadofwashmother says: Dec 1, 2012 11:10 PM

    Alabama graduation rate 42% in the last four years
    Notre dame 97%
    Nd kids are the winner , they have a future either win or loose
    Every university owes the kids to graduate them and basket weaving does not count
    Respect the players and graduate them ! That’s a national champion, they owe that to the student”athlete ” if not they are just athlete !

  16. kiopta1 says: Dec 1, 2012 11:12 PM

    pens5829 are you sure he coached that game?

  17. kiopta1 says: Dec 1, 2012 11:13 PM

    8man not sure Bama should talk about tough schedules.

  18. houndofthebaskervols says: Dec 1, 2012 11:15 PM

    Doesnt ND have a Freshman QB? It wont be pretty.

    Bama 48 ND 13

  19. Tim's Neighbor says: Dec 1, 2012 11:22 PM

    I see it being a close game. I can’t imagine either team scoring more than 21-24 points. ND’s defense is vastly superior to UGA’s. ND has also shown that it gets bogged down against good defenses like Bama’s. Sure, Pitt ran on ND, but imo, the Pitt back is superior to the very good Bama backs.

    Bama ran for for almost 300 yards w 2 TEs on the field tonight. ND runs a ton of 2 TE sets. This will be a football purist’s delight.

    My head says Bama by 4, but my heart says ND by 3. Should be a great game. Good luck trolling or the next month, everyone.

  20. normtide says: Dec 1, 2012 11:23 PM

    Load- maybe they will change the football game to a spelling bee. Bringing up grad rates now makes it seem like your worried. Good luck ND, looking forward to a hard hitting game.

  21. teal379 says: Dec 1, 2012 11:35 PM

    It won’t be the cakewalk Alabama fans and SEC fans think.

    Remember – ND wasn’t supposed to survive Norman? Ask Oklahoma if ND can play ball.

    And really – Alabama and the SEC should be thanking OSU for being stupid because that’s the only reason why they’re in the game.

    ND vs OSU would have been the results.

  22. grendelg says: Dec 1, 2012 11:35 PM

    This isn’t going to be close. The #1 and #2 teams played today and it came down to 5 yards and 5 seconds. The BCS championship will be a huge letdown from this game. Bring on the playoffs!

  23. aglawman says: Dec 1, 2012 11:39 PM

    You ND lovers better show up after the NC game to apologize for wasting our SEC bandwidth.


  24. WingT says: Dec 1, 2012 11:49 PM

    All the pressure is on ND. This is the 3rd time that Bama has been to the big dance in the past 4 years and they will not let the hype and media BS affect them nearly as much as will ND.

    Alabama has THE most efficient QB in the counrty – that’s quite an accomplishment given the level of competition he has faced throughout the year.

    So ND will have to choose if they will stack the box to try and stop the run and take their chances that McCarron will not be able to check Bama into a passing play and then execute it.

    The pressure is all on ND.

    The Tide by 10

  25. bills4 says: Dec 1, 2012 11:49 PM

    Can’t really stand either team but how can anyone with half a brain choose ND. Alabama is gonna slaughter them!

  26. Deb says: Dec 1, 2012 11:54 PM

    goodellsadouche says:

    “Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth.” — Mike Tyson

    ROFL … I’m a Tide fan but making no predictions because Iron Mike is right.

    And you’re right about Goodell, too!

  27. phreakin says: Dec 1, 2012 11:59 PM

    Notre Dame uses the haters the same way they did in the Oklahoma game. 27-20 Irish win

  28. Deb says: Dec 2, 2012 12:00 AM

    @aglawman …

    I agree that Catholics vs. Christians was terrible, but your idea was no better. We’ve got a whole slew of Catholic in-laws who are rabid Bama fans. Nick freakin’ Saban is Catholic! So Notre Dame doesn’t have the monopoly on Catholics in this battle.

    Maybe we should leave the religious labels out of this.

  29. techvet says: Dec 2, 2012 12:06 AM

    Alabama is 1-5 lifetime against Notre Dame. Bear Bryant went to his grave 0-4 against the Irish. If Nick Saban and all his fans think this will be a blowout, that will make it even better.

  30. loadofwashmother says: Dec 2, 2012 12:06 AM

    Not a spelling bee , but if you don’t give the kids anything in return you have already failed the student athlete or as the sec calls them just plain athletes
    Give them an education
    Nd players will win, either win or loose they graduate and they are number one so !
    For now Alabama is number 2 and that comes after number one
    After the game it may change or may not . we will see , but all of nd will graduate and they will either have career in the nfl or they will be very successful career in something else
    University has to graduate those kids that should be their job, they already profit millions from them, give them a decent education ! That’s it ! Simple
    If you can’t handle the truth about graduating is because you don’t want to look at it ! Very simple again
    all major football powerhouse graduate about 50 percent of their athlete , look at nd, wake navy standord bc etc…..
    You can be proud of all those kids
    student athlete not just athlete
    Remember that

  31. miserynmossouri says: Dec 2, 2012 12:10 AM

    History tells us the SEC wins the title.
    I just hope the priests don’t get too excited watching men in tight pants on tv.

  32. goodellisruiningtheleague says: Dec 2, 2012 12:11 AM

    grendelg says:
    Dec 1, 2012 11:35 PM
    This isn’t going to be close. The #1 and #2 teams played today and it came down to 5 yards and 5 seconds. The BCS championship will be a huge letdown from this game. Bring on the playoffs!


    I thought Alabama was #2 and Georgia was #3 when they took the field today…

  33. grendelg says: Dec 2, 2012 12:11 AM

    Great, so your players will win even though they’ll lose, badly, in the NC game. Congrats?

  34. grendelg says: Dec 2, 2012 12:12 AM

    goodellisruiningtheleague I guess we’ll see if ND gives Bama the same challenge UGA did. I doubt it.

  35. ndnut says: Dec 2, 2012 12:15 AM

    To all the idiots claiming it will be a blowout, you guys are wrong. ND has a good enough defense to let them hang around for at least 3 quarters. I knew ‘Bama would be a tougher opponent than Georgia, but I wanted this matchup so that no one could dispute who won the title this year because the Tide wasn’t playing. I hope ND wins but my only prediction is that the final score is within 10 points. Cheer, Cheer For Old Notre Dame! Shake Down The Thunder! Go Irish!

  36. jgater1981 says: Dec 2, 2012 12:30 AM

    To quote the greatest band of all time, “if man is five, then the devil is six, then GAWD IS SEVEN! THEN GAWD IS SEVEN!” Sorry, there seemed to be a lot of seven’s in that article. ND wins.

  37. jgater1981 says: Dec 2, 2012 12:34 AM

    SEC fans are pathetic. Cheering for a conference over a team? I guess you’re new to football ask Michigan fans if they root for for OSU. Ask UCLA if they root for USC. You guys are lame.

  38. Deb says: Dec 2, 2012 12:37 AM

    Notre Dame fans must be worried about losing if they’re already pulling out the “consolation prize” that their players are smarter. That may be true, but if the Irish played Harvard and won, Crimson fans could say the same. And it wouldn’t be anymore relevant than it is here. The subject is football, not academics. You win or lose on the field.

  39. normtide says: Dec 2, 2012 12:40 AM

    Ask those team’s fans if they would like to have those crystal footballs the sec teams have. The thing is, southern people have always stood by each other. We have to be doing something right, just look how mad it makes you.

  40. r0b1b0y says: Dec 2, 2012 2:05 AM

    Trailer park trash will win by 17…the Lucky Charms are only on the level of maybe an Arkansas or Ole Miss this year. Should be a very boring game.

  41. Tim's Neighbor says: Dec 2, 2012 2:13 AM

    Serious question… Do the grey shirted Bama players still get rings if they win?

  42. domerhomer says: Dec 2, 2012 4:09 AM

    ND 24 – Bama 10, just the way I see it!

  43. mempusa says: Dec 2, 2012 6:42 AM


  44. rsmeans says: Dec 2, 2012 7:03 AM

    I feel compelled to talk about ND’s graduation rate It is one of the highest in the country that is true. But Alabama, Florida and Georgia have graduation rates of 75% plus which is very high nationally.

    Secondly, ND has very high entrance requirements both for the general population and football players which has both negative positive aspects attached to it. Most of the SEC except for Vandy are made up of state schools which cannot discriminate against minorities with respect to entrance requirements. The positive side for ND and against the SEC is that you will have a high graduation rate with a select population.

    Many different agencies rate schools and some will rate ND very high and some very low. The most prestigious rating agency is the AAU which is made up primarily of research and scientific oriented professors. ND was turned down as a member given its lack of reseach and its theology orientation. Four SEC schools were accepted and two more have pending applications.

  45. bamafan36 says: Dec 2, 2012 7:31 AM

    Let it be known, the reason for the lowered graduation rate at Alabama, is not for lack of institutional control or general thuggery. Yet, Bama puts stars in the NFL, early. I don’t agree with, nor condone a kid leaving college for the pro’s, without his degree. I understand why they go…I just don’t like their decision. But, to try and compare these two teams based on graduation rate, religion, or what happened three years before the tire was invented… ludacris! Looking at the body-of-work this year….the nod goes to Bama in the NCG. ND beats Stanford in OT (blown call by the officials, otherwise we play Florida), Pitt in triple OT (if they had a kicker, we play Florida), BYU and Purdue by 3. A first-start freshman at USC, keeps it close.

    The score that Bama puts up against Brian Kelly (who left Cincinnati BEFORE their Bowl Game), will have you hater’s, no longer questioning the offense’s in the SEC (Bama is ranked #9 in the nation in scoring offense). It will, however, have you all questioning whether a play-off system will benefit ANYONE other than the SEC. If the play-off took place this year….Bama and Florida would play for the National Title! But, UGA is CLEARLY the second best team in the nation. RTR

  46. bigbuckeye76 says: Dec 2, 2012 7:38 AM

    I think it will resemble Bama /Michigan..

    Tide rolls 35-14

  47. bamafan36 says: Dec 2, 2012 7:45 AM

    And, the reason the SEC fans cheer for other SEC teams in the post-season, is out of respect for what they do to each other, ALL YEAR LONG! If OSU and Michigan had Bama, UF, LSU, UGA, SC, Ole Miss, A&M, and MSU in their conference…..they would root for their rival in the Bowl Games. Why would you want the team that beat you to lose? Doesn’t that make YOUR loss, look even worse? Understand it, or not….the SEC will ALWAYS pull for the SEC! It’s out of respect. We understand what it took to get there.


  48. loadofwashmother says: Dec 2, 2012 8:53 AM

    Yes Alabama is awesome of course they are when you don’t have to attend class
    This is called an athlete factory but don’t call your athlete : student athlete when they are call them like they are athlete
    Very simple
    Over the past 4 years Alabama has graduated 42 players only just look at it as an institution what favor are you doing to the kids that you play . You are using they talent and then throwing them back to the street and you don’t care anymore
    There is the difference with soapy other institution . Do a favor to all those kids and graduate them in something they can use
    Go back and look at all the players if they don’t make it in the nfl where they end up
    You owe that to those kids, we all know the sequels they get from playing football.
    And if you look at African American graduation rate is even lower so do yourself a favor and admit you have a factory and you don’t care about the athlete just the bcs
    And by the way why are you guys so worried ? Just show up on the seventh and will see who wins
    Football 101: for all the very smart Alabama fan that claims that Stanford beat us, if Stanford scored it would have gone to another overtime again very simple , but you may think otherwise

  49. pens5829 says: Dec 2, 2012 8:59 AM

    Kiopta1. I stand corrected. Kelly did not coach that Cincinnati team that got destroyed by Florida in the Sugar Bowl. I forgot. He bailed on the kids that committed their college career to him.

  50. thegloriousone says: Dec 2, 2012 9:04 AM

    Rooting for a conference is stupid.

    The reason the south roots for the SEC is because the crappy schools in that division want to justify their pathetic records.

    Our school sucks, but its because your school’s so good!

    SEC! SEC!


  51. monsterright says: Dec 2, 2012 9:43 AM

    loadofwashmother says:
    Dec 1, 2012 11:10 PM
    Alabama graduation rate 42% in the last four years
    Notre dame 97%

    @loadofwashmother, I agree. If you aren’t good enough to play in the NFL, you should stay in school.

  52. bucrightoff says: Dec 2, 2012 10:08 AM

    It is pretty pathetic to see fans from LSU and Georgia cheering for their “conference”. What it looks like to me is if your girlfriend fools around on you, but since its with your friends not only are you cool with it, you actually root your friends on. Only Alabama fans should celebrate when they win, and yet every SEC fan will feel like they’ve won something.

    I guess as a Bucs fan i’ll take a piece of the Giants last couple SBs, and Green Bays too. NFC baby!/sarcasm

  53. normtide says: Dec 2, 2012 10:19 AM

    Load, are you so afraid that your making excuses now? No one is keeping anyone from graduating, and if a kid doesn’t want to, its on them. We do not share your liberal view that everyone is owed something. Also, I know this for a fact, if you played football for Bama, you will have no problem getting a decent job in this state.

    Back to the game, you know, the reason most people post on CFT. Your trying to leave a back door open because you feat Bama. Relax, is just a football game baby.

  54. steincj36 says: Dec 2, 2012 10:27 AM

    The “blown call in OT” with ND and STAN was the Cardinal attempt to TIE the game, not win. The only thing that was “blown” on that play was the whistle when Taylor’s forward progress was stopped. Te’o was running away celebrating when Taylor reached over. Get your facts right.

    Bama won by running on the 67th rush D (GA). ND is 5th in rush D. Blowout? I think not…

  55. normtide says: Dec 2, 2012 10:27 AM

    You don’t get it, its over your head. This isn’t the NFL. This is football that represents a region, a group of people, a culture. To resent what you don’t understand, that’s a telling fact about you.

  56. scalpemseminoles says: Dec 2, 2012 11:05 AM

    These bama people predicting big wins for the tide should realize there’s 12 other teams who said the same thing and wound up with their tails between their legs…

  57. earz4lsu says: Dec 2, 2012 11:34 AM

    ndnut says:

    “To all the idiots claiming it will be a blowout, you guys are wrong. ND has a good enough defense to let them hang around for at least 3 quarters. ”

    You do know this is a football game and not a hockey game right. BAMA is built to win in the fourth after the huge and talented OL has body blowed your smallish Def for 3 quarters.

    scalpemseminoles says:

    These bama people predicting big wins for the tide should realize there’s 12 other teams who said the same thing and wound up with their tails between their legs…

    And who would that be an Over rated MEECHAGAN, Maybe that powerhouse NAVY, oh I know PITTSBURGH. OU sure Ill give you THAT one, but Stanford got screwed by a bad call, and your vaunted D had to hold on to a freshman QB and a joke of a coach.

    Seriously how do you burn nearly 21/2 MINUTES of game time inside the 5 on 4 plays. Kick the FG, they still needed a TD to win.

    BAMA on the other hand won a game because of the worst college football coach in the SEC and 4 were fired this week.

    Then got snake bite by the soon to be Heisman winner on the road.

    BTW – UGA has by some estimates – Mel Kipper – As many as 9 players who could be drafted into the NFL this year.

    My Take on the game, Bama’s offense will run the ball 75 % of the time, golden domers play decent defense and by the fourth quarter taeo gets run over multiply times by lacy and yeldon who were blowing up a better LB corp in Georgia.

    Final thoughts.

    Be honest nd fans, who would you rather have nick saban or brian kelley? be very honest.

  58. bucrightoff says: Dec 2, 2012 12:22 PM

    normtide says: Dec 2, 2012 10:27 AM

    You don’t get it, its over your head. This isn’t the NFL. This is football that represents a region, a group of people, a culture. To resent what you don’t understand, that’s a telling fact about you.
    So let me get this straight: If LSU had beat Alabama in the title game last year, it’d be cool cause they’re SEC? Dude, you cheer for a team. Not a conference. Not a region. A team. To do otherwise is not to be a fan, rather a hanger on desperate to seek any sort of validation. Congrats to all Vandy and Kentucky fans, apparently every time Florida and Alabama win the title, you should feel happy? This is such a pathetic attitude, I would never cheer for a rival just because they are “regionally” tied together. You think Michigan fans would be rooting for Ohio State to win it all? Or Texas fans for Oklahoma? Its more of the southern inferiority complex (cause you’ll rise again right?) than anything else. I hate Notre Dame but will be happily rooting for them January 7th

  59. Deb says: Dec 2, 2012 12:25 PM

    @loadofwashmother …

    Sorry to be blunt, but no one with your poor grammar and punctuation skills should be slamming any institution’s quality of education. Frankly, what happens to Alabama’s football players is none of your business, and I seriously doubt you give a damn. You’re just whining because the school produces superior athletes, and hedging your bets in case your school loses the game.

    I have a college degree but recently lost a Monopoly game to a friend who didn’t finish college. I suppose I could have picked that moment to brag about my education, but it wouldn’t have made me a better Monopoly player; it would only have made me a poor loser.

    Different people have different gifts. Students on academic scholarships aren’t required to run a 4.4 in the 40. So why should students on an athletic scholarship be held to the same academic standards as kids there to earn business degrees? Some people leave college to pursue traditional careers and others leave to pursue athletic careers. Alabama has a fantastic reputation among NFL scouts as having its kids pro-ready and has sent a signficant number of players to the NFL. The purpose of college is to prepare kids for a career of their choice–not a career of your choice.

    Now please let these kids and their fans enjoy their achievements on the field and save your unpunctuated rants for College Academic

  60. Deb says: Dec 2, 2012 12:28 PM

    @bucrightoff …

    SEC fans have been cheering for SEC teams since before you were born, squirt. The reasons are historic and socioeconomic, and clearly over your head. But just because you don’t get it doesn’t invalidate it.

  61. irishdodger says: Dec 2, 2012 12:44 PM

    I’m not predicting an ND win, but I like NDs chances after seeing UGA choke on applesauce last night. The same Georgia that beat only TWO FBS teams w/ a winning record & got throttled by 4 TDs in their regular season loss,

    Here’s what I am confident in: while I’ve watched three entire Bama games (LSU, TAMU, UGA), I doubt ANY Bama/SEC fan has watched 4 quarters of ND football.

    Yeah ND won close ones over BYU, Purdue & Pitt…but at least those are all bowl eligible teams that play in a BCs conference. Do you honestly think Bama’s schedule is tougher? That’s why no one respects Bama fans, most (not all) think beating only 5 teams (Michigan, Western KY!, Ole Miss, MissSt, LSU & UGA) w/ a winning record trumps NDs schedule of beating 10 bowl eligible teams (Navy, Purdue, MSU, Mich, Miami, BYU, Stanford, Pitt, OU, USC). Western Kentucky !?!? What irks non-SEC fans is that SEC is only conference that only plays 8 conference games. Most play nine. All Conferences are becoming a joke being as they play little more than half their conference + 3-4 cupcakes.

    While the CFB world was anxiously watching two games w/ NC implications 3 weeks ago, the powers of the SEC were on a bye week as they played the following murderer’s row: Western Carolina, Wofford, Georgia Southern, Jacksonville St. I don’t care if you’ve won the last 50 National Championships…playing FCS schools (especially late in the season) is inexcusable and not worthy of respect regardless of conference.

    Bama’s biggest win was likely LSU in Baton Rouge. The same LSU that struggled w/ FCS Towson at home at night and were lucky to survive a horrible Auburn (12-10) and let a nearly as horrible Ark take them down to the last play.

    Florida survives SunBelt also-ran LA-Lafayette w/ a miracle blocked punt return for a TD and lets one of the worst defenses in the FCS, Jacksonville St, hang around for 3 quarters. And SEC fan is crying about NDs goal line stand win vs a top 10 Stanford? Proof that SEC fans haven’t watched an entire ND game is they don’t realize that were the call reversed in favor of Stanford, it still didn’t guarantee ND would lose.

    Ironically, SEC fan points to NDs low scoring wins not realizing that this Irish team is led by their D. In the one common opponent w/ ND & Bama, the Irish held Michigan to ZERO touchdowns. Bama allowed TWO touchdowns to Michigan. And, sorry…the starters were still in as the first TD was scored in the 2nd qtr & the second TD was scored in the 3rd qtr.

    I wish there were more common opponents to compare, but ND does not schedule FCS (DIV I-AA) or Sun Belt teams.

  62. snaxdsp says: Dec 2, 2012 12:50 PM

    Bama is garbage.

    And all you SEC rah rah cheerleaders….I am an SEC school fan and would NEVER cheer for another conference team. If you do that’s just dumb because if you don’t pull for them any other time why now? Just stupid

  63. irishdodger says: Dec 2, 2012 12:58 PM

    As an avid ND fan, I would prefer academics debates be left to another site. it’s unbecoming of ND or Stanford fans to play the academic card…especially after a loss on the field.

    Again, it’s too early for me to pick a winner & I’m an obviously bias ND fan, but Bama is the only team I’d want to play as their program is the only one I respect from the SEC.

  64. trick321 says: Dec 2, 2012 1:37 PM

    The Irish will surprise some people and win this game. Bama won’t be able to run roughshod through Notre Dame’s front seven, forcing McCarron to pass the ball, which won’t work… Bama’s offensive performance will resemble their effort against LSU. Everett Golson is playing well enough to attack Bama’s defense down-field and with his feet, which will open up the running lanes, and allow Notre Dame to win the field position battle… Notre Dame wins close but soundly.

  65. Deb says: Dec 2, 2012 2:23 PM

    @irishdodger …

    Great post. Like you, I’d never make a prediction for this game. I’m a Tide fan, but respect what Notre Dame has accompished this season and looking forward to a good game!

  66. snaxdsp says: Dec 2, 2012 4:29 PM

    @dodger…..and why pray tell do you only respect them?

  67. pkopco says: Dec 2, 2012 5:11 PM

    The SEC should be represented by the Florida Gators — they had by far the best resume in college football –4-1 against ranked teams. Alabama isn’t even close. And the Gators beat the team that Alabama lost to — A&M.

  68. irishdodger says: Dec 2, 2012 5:19 PM


    The same Gators team that needed a miracle to beat a Sun Belt team in regulation AND struggled with Jacksonville State for a half before finally putting them away. You know…FCS (Div I-AA) Jacksonville State? Y’all haven’t traveled outside your own state since 1991 for an OOC matchup. Sorry…not impressed. Bama would boatrace UF. Georgia was overrated & you still couldn’t pull off the victory.

  69. rockermaximus says: Dec 2, 2012 11:35 PM

    SEC Teams that would beat ND. Bama, GA, LSU, FLA, Texas A&M and South Carolina.

  70. hollieann0517 says: Dec 3, 2012 1:10 PM

    @Load, you’re making a complete fool of yourself. Yes, education is first and foremost, but these boys are not graduating because the UofA is not an excellent school-they are being drafted into the NFL because they are worthy athletes trained in an extraordinary athletic program. It is their choice to stay or go, not the University, not the Coach and not the fans decision. If ND produced the same quality athlete, their grad rate would drop too! Dangle millions of dollars or a degree in front of ANY college student and guess what they will choose?! With that said, this poll WAS about who will win the title game? Which had ZERO to do with your comments!

    It will be a great game, but BAMA will win:)

    And to the low-class person who referred to Alabama people as “white trash”….don’t throw stones when you live in a glass house :)

  71. justheb says: Dec 3, 2012 11:28 PM

    Catholics vs. Married Cousins … Lets do this, Irish!!!

  72. justheb says: Dec 3, 2012 11:40 PM

    Mormons & Catholics vs.
    a o
    r u
    r s
    i i
    e n
    d s

  73. justheb says: Dec 3, 2012 11:42 PM

    Mormons & Catholics vs.

  74. autumnwind999 says: Dec 4, 2012 9:28 AM

    Notre Dame 20, Alabama 17

  75. autumnwind999 says: Dec 4, 2012 9:39 AM

    The one thing that scares me in this game for the Irish is not the SEC or the perceived talent differential. I think that’s bogus.

    – ND’s defensive front 7 is probably the best unit in the game, even better than Bama’s o-line.

    – I’ll give ND’s o-line the edge over Bama’s front 7.

    – QBs are different styles, but both are good and in sum bring about an equal impact to their teams.

    – Bama’s secondary is superior to ND’s.

    – I’ll give the edge to Bama’s other offensive skill position players over ND, though not by much when you factor in ND’s superior TE play and ND is pretty close in talent at the RB position too, though RB and WR goes to Bama.

    To me, the thing that is scary as an ND fan is Nick Saban having 6 weeks to prepare. Saban is very good with that kind of layoff. A big reason why he’s 3-0 in NC games. What will he do to stop ND. I think he may devise a way to take the TE out of the game, which is the crux of ND’s passing attack. Brian Kelly needs to have some wrinkles prepared to offset Saban’s plans early. And ND needs to just pound the rock behind that o-line early and often, much like Bama did in the second half against Georgia.

  76. 8to80texansblog says: Dec 4, 2012 2:17 PM


    Have a feeling Bama has the better offense than ND and both have great defenses….

    Should be a very close game with under 40 total points scored..

    Bama: 19

  77. 8to80texansblog says: Dec 4, 2012 2:19 PM

    justheb says:
    Dec 3, 2012 11:42 PM
    Mormons & Catholics vs.

    Pedophiles and polygamists vs.
    Southern evangelicals….

    Not so funny when you flip it the other way…. huh?

  78. 8to80texansblog says: Dec 4, 2012 2:54 PM


    That has to be one of the most arrogant diatribes I’ve seen a long time.

    I usually scoff at Aggies who “claim” the SEC as we’ve been here for 10 minutes, and I am actually a casual ND fan as I have family in Niles, MI, but its obvious to anyone who looks that the SEC is the best conference in CFB. 6 of the top 10 teams come from the SEC, the NFL is FULL of SEC players, and they have won half of the last 20 National titles and the last 6 in a row.

    Most schools don’t have the luxury of cherry picking their schedule as they need the conference tie ins for the TV money to fund the program. ND has a sweet deal with NBC so they can stay independent and play who they want. But honestly, ND coaches have been complaining about the ND schedule for years saying that in modern CFB, its near impossible to win a title with it.

    Then you get 2012 where you catch almost ALL of your major rivals on mediocre to bad years. I am very impressed with the Stanford win and especially impressed with the OU win on the road where OU rarely loses. But the rest of the teams ND played were mediocre at best… BC was downright terrible. Being Bowl eligible doesn’t mean you’re a good team…(Miami by the way is not bowl eligible). You played a tougher schedule than Bama..but you can pick apart anyone’s schedule and find weak spots… Stop acting like you played Mizzou’s schedule. (They played 5 10+ win teams)

    I am in no way discounting ND. I fully believe they have every right to be there and are a great team and great defense. But to sit there on your high horse and say that everyone else played a garbage schedule and we’re better than you because we don’t have to be in a conference is just arrogant and ignorant.

  79. bamafan36 says: Dec 4, 2012 3:35 PM

    Alabama Crimson Tide – 52
    Nuetered Dames Irish Child Molestor’s – 9

  80. tigersgeaux says: Dec 5, 2012 8:22 AM

    This info came from the doc with southernpatriots…

    After the top-ranked Irish came to Baton Rouge and were butt whipped by the Tigers to the tune of 28-8, Irish coach Ara Parsegian said he would NEVER return to Tiger Stadium…and he did not.

    Historically, Alabama has only won one game out of 5 with Notre Dame.

    None of that has a bearing on the new butt whipping the Domers will receive from Bama.

  81. bamafan36 says: Dec 5, 2012 8:50 AM

    Bama’s “cupcake” schedule is ranked as the 3rd hardest schedule, in CFB (behind Oregon State and Stanford). ND’s is 30th.
    ND’s scoring offense is 75th in the nation, while Bama sits at 8!
    Bama’s overall defense is ranked number 1 in the country, while ND sits at 6.
    The common opponent between this year’s teams: Michigan. ND beat Michigan 13-6, while Alabama won 41-14. Denard Robinson was healthy, until Bama got ahold of him. Michigan gained 299 yards, while ND mustered 235 yards of total offense against them. Michigan gained 269 yards to Bama’s 437.
    ND finished this game with all their starter’s in. Bama started rotating in 2nd and 3rd string players, near the end of the 2nd quarter, as Bama was already up 31-0.
    ND threw to interceptions in the Michigan game, while they took five from the Wolverine’s. Bama didn’t turn the ball over, and had three interceptions.
    ND has played three teams this year, that sport a winning (.500) record. Bama has played eight, including 3 in the top 10.
    ND is 2-10 in their last 12 Bowl Games (wins over Hawai’i and Miami), while Bama is 7-5 in their last 12 Bowl Games (with three National Championships).

    ND’s defensive front, will be tested (early and often), by a heralded and vaunted offensive line. Arguably one of the best in college history. There are four first-round draft picks on that line. The other one, isn’t eligible for the sraft this year. However, he will be a first-rounder, next year!

    Bama wins BIG…..and this game is over in the first half!

  82. irishking says: Dec 5, 2012 9:27 AM

    It could be a great upset win for the Irish. Keep talking Bama fans. Make the Bear and Joe Namath proud.

  83. nd72mgr says: Dec 5, 2012 2:44 PM


    From where do you get your facts? According to the NCAA, ND opponents were 81 and 62 (with 12 of the losses coming against ND, obviously). Seven (Navy, MI, Miami, Standford, BYU, Oklahoma, and SC) had winning records. Three (Purdue, Mich. St., Pittsburgh) had .500 records, only two, WF and BC, had losing records (combined 7 & 17). ND defeated 2 teams (OK and Standford) which finished 10 & 2.

    Alabama also won 12 games, but did lose one to a very good 10 & 2 team, Texas A&M. Their opponents’ record was 79 and 77 (and that would have been 68 and 75 without the SEC title game). Five of their opponents had winning records (W. Ky, Miss. St., LSU, T A&M, and Georgia). Only two finished at .500 (Mich. and Ole Miss). The rest were a combined 21 and 50. Which is the same losing percentage as ND’s losing record opponents.

    Big difference is “Bama lost to one of it’s 10 and 2 opponents and ND didn’t. And ND didn’t have an FCS team on the schedule (I do understand that scheduling problem the SEC faced so let’s not ding them too much on that).

    One last thing, “Bama and ND played 6 away games (technically the ND-Miami game was a ND home game but played in Chicago and the SEC Championship game was in Georgia’s backyard). ‘Bama had to go perhaps 500 miles to play a game, ND played games in Ireland, Oklahoma, Boston, and LA. If you haven’t traveled with a team you don’t realize how tough that can be (I have, with the Irish, though a long time ago).

    Go Irish!

  84. bamafan36 says: Dec 5, 2012 3:24 PM


    Phil Steele, Sagarin, USA Today, and both teams football website’s.

    Out of all that I wrote, all you come up with is an argument about opponent’s winning percentage, and whatever you were trying to accomplish while talking about your travels with the team? Argue the S.O.S, the impressive wins over BYU, Purdue, Stanford, and Pitt. Argue the stat’s against our common opponent, the rankings in scoring offense and overall defense. I didn’t even bring up the abysmal red zone scoring percentage or the TD to FG ratio, while in the RZ!

    Here is another fact: If ND had dropped one game this year, they wouldn’t be ranked in the top 10.

    Enjoy your short-lived time at #1. That belongs to the SEC, and Bama is coming to get it back!

    Roll Tide, Roll!

  85. bamafan36 says: Dec 5, 2012 3:27 PM

    If I was incorrect about the winning percentage’s of Bama’s and/or ND’s opponent’s…..I apologize. It was a mistake, and unintended.

  86. whyalwaysthehate says: Dec 5, 2012 6:45 PM

    Lizzy Seeberg

  87. nd72mgr says: Dec 5, 2012 11:00 PM


    You did bring up the winning percentages in your earlier post, appreciate you acknowledging your unintended error. Just setting the record straight.

    The Dec 1st Sagarin schedule ranking I see shows ‘Bama #35 and ND #30, but I admit I could be reading that wrong. It does show that both teams played 4 teams in the top 30 with ND 4-0 and ‘Bama 3-1.

    Your basic argument seems to be that you played Michigan better than ND and ND won a bunch of close games. ‘Bama is a couple of goofy plays by the Hat and missed opportunity by the Dawgs away from being 10 & 3. But that’s football and good teams can sometimes be lucky ones as well.

    My point about team travel is that ND plays a national schedule and it takes a strong team focus to do that and win. Try taking a ‘Bama football team on the road 10,000 miles a season instead of never leaving the deep south and see how it plays out.

    My argument is not that Alabama is not a great team, of course it is. But ND certainly has the capacity and will to beat ‘Bama. To say differently is just bravado and ignores all of the facts. Your loyalty is apparent, I’m sure as a graduate of a great university you’re proud of its accomplishments. I know, as a very happy alumnus, I am of ND’s great season; frankly it’s been way too long.

    While history is of little use in predicting outcomes I will remind the readers that ND is 4 & 1 against Alabama all time and 2 & 0 in bowl games with NC ramifications.

    If ND loses I’ll come back and offer ‘Bama my congratulations. If ND wins I would hope ‘Bama fans will acknowledge that on January 7th 2013 ND was the better team.

    Go Irish!

    A quick footnote, Notre Dame has participated in nine “#1 vs #2” matchups since the AP poll began in 1936. They have a record of 5–2–2 in such games, with a 4–0–1 record as the #1 team in such matchups.

  88. bamafan36 says: Dec 6, 2012 1:16 AM


    I will do the same, if Bama should lose. ND has a very good team, and should not be discounted. They earned their right to be in the big game, and rightly so. They have a very rich history in College Football. An avid fanbase, to boot.

    Here is something interesting to note….Historical facts, are just that; history. Where it may make for good foddet, it has no real bearing on this game, this season, or these teams. The team’s from 1964, are not playing next month. As I was pointing out, the match-up truly favors Alabama, when looking at the two teams from this year, and what they accomplished. The strength of schedule on Sagarin (as of this afternoon) lists Bama at #1. However, I went with Team As it is more representative of just SOS. Sagarin gets caught up in national standing, sos, and projections. After the BCS NC, Bama will be ranked #1, and ND should break into the top 20.

    Either way, I hope it’s a great game. Unfortunately, I just don’t see it that way. Analysis of these two teams (mainly looking at their shared opponent) indicates that Bama will break down the defensive front of ND for three quarters with PA Pass, and running between the tackles. In the fourth quarter, our O line (1st and 2nd team) will still be fresh, while ND will be struggling to grab a breath. The O for ND has struggled all year. Our defensive secondary is weaker than we had hoped. Truthfully, none of us (me, for certain) thought we would win more than 10 games this year. It’s not often that you lose 9 starter’s on D, and put up similar numbers, with mainly under classmen. But, our Offensive line has made the difference.

    I underatand your excitement and anticipation. It wasn’t that long ago that winning seasons at UA, were non-existent! Do you remember Mike Shula sitting at the hwalm? I wish I didn’t.

    The reason that I started responding to this story, was in response to @justheb! I was really wanting him to “come out and play”, due to his remarks about “us” being married cousins. He is obviously too ignorant to know that we Irish, are in other states, as well.

    Best of luck to you and ND in January. I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas.

  89. bamafan36 says: Dec 6, 2012 1:25 AM

    I apologize for the typeographical error’s. I am on my cell phone, and the text box is very small (I must be writing WAY too much :-P)


  90. chillyphil73 says: Dec 6, 2012 6:03 AM

    To quote my eight year old daughter, “OMG!” All you Irish fans, “COME ON, MAN!” I seem to detect a animosity, condescension, and hostility in a lot of your posts. The question is, why? It’s only a game, gals and guys. Yes, Bama will beat the snot out of ND, but that’s football and life. Someone has to win, and someone has to lose. All the evidence that ND fans have to validate their expectations of a victory is that they had the #5 rated defense, or that they beat OU and Stanford, or that they’re undefeated. Let’s see, in order now shall we: it’s not hard to have the 5th rated defense when you play Navy, Purdue, Mich St., Michigan, Miami, Stanford, BYU, OU, Pitt, BC, Wake Forrest, & USC. Most of those teams aren’t even worth mentioning, so I won’t even bother to. As for Mich, Stanford, OU, and USC, they all had either decent or mediocre seasons, depending on your expectations of them each year. Mich as usual had a good offense, but no defense. Stanford should’ve won but for bad refereeing and conservative play calling at the end of the 4th quarter. OU is a shadow of it’s normal self this year, and of course USC didn’t have Barkley, and they still had a decent chance to win in

  91. chillyphil73 says: Dec 6, 2012 7:26 AM

    Sorry about the break in my post. Here’s the rest:

    OU is a shadow of it’s normal self this year, and of course USC didn’t have Barkley, and they still had a decent chance to win in the 4th quarter. By the way, none of those teams has a stand out defense this year. Normally OU or USC would, but this year look at all the points they gave up in most games. You guys have the gall to talk about Georgia’s defense? At least UGA showed steady improvement on D this year, and they ended the season playing as good as anyone on that side of the ball going into the SEC Championship game. If ND had to play an SEC schedule this year, do you guys REALLY think that they’d had the 5th best defense? Please, tell me you don’t! As for them beating OU and Stanford, well I’ve really pretty much covered that- as far as their mediocre defenses and play this year. Yes, ND did go undefeated this year. So, what of it? They didn’t have to play any really good team but Stanford, and they had an assist from the refs. Reference my earlier comment about them playing an SEC caliber schedule also. In lieu, of being able to make credible arguments with sound reasoning and facts, a lot of you Irish fans are jumping on subjects that have nothing to do with who’ll win the game. That reminds me of kids who loose an argument, but then then say, “Well so, you can’t do (so and so)…” Just plain ridiculous, if you ask me. Finally, as for us SEC fans taking pride in our conference, why does it bother all you fans of other conferences SO much? Is it because of the SEC’s dominance in sports, perhaps? We don’t jump ship as far as wanting the other conference teams to beat our alma matters or favorite schools. But, when an SEC team plays a non-conference foe then they are representing the conference their in plain and simple. When we win championships in football, basketball, baseball, track and field, gymnastics, etc., it speaks to the volume of talent overall in the conference- that’s all. No more, no less. Besides, you guys are like that in basketball when you are bragging about the Big East, Big Ten, or ACC, and how good the whole conference is in any given year. Don’t forget, we here in SEC country have had to listen all these years about all the great talent/teams in the PAC10 (now PAC12), Big Ten, and Big Twelve (then Big Eight) in football; and the ACC and Big East in basketball for years and years! Instead of whining, what did the SEC do? We got much better in all sports of course. The SEC started investing in sports facilities, stadiums, coaches, living facilities for athletes, etc. and the rest is history. So, stop your whining, and step your game up and beat us! Until that happens, as if. Please, do us all a favor and shut up!

  92. nd72mgr says: Dec 6, 2012 9:14 AM


    Thanks, you and yours have a great holiday, we’ll speak again in January.


    Chill, dude. I’ve go nothing against the SEC but it sometimes feels like SEC fans have a bit of persection complex and that does start get annoying after a while. And I’m not sure why SEC fans only talk about how undeserving ND is and never talk about how ‘Bama got to 12 & 1. (see my earlier post about opponent rankings).

    Saban’s a heck of a coach and the SEC’s been on a great run of late. That may or may not end on 7 January. To say that ‘Bama will crush ND is simply bravado with no serious evidence to back it up. Not saying it can’t happen but ND’s demonstrated strength and stamina in the fourth quarter tells me it won’t be a blow out.

    Every team has its share of insufferable homers, but let it go, enjoy the game, feel the excitement, marvel at the TV ratings, be nauseated by all the hype, curse the intolerable breaks in the action for TV timeouts, and Cheer, Cheer for your favorite school.

    P.S. How does that ‘Bama fight song go?

  93. chillyphil73 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:59 PM

    well nd72mgr, as for the Bama fight song, I wouldn’t know. I really don’t know the fight song to the school that I attended all that well, the Univ. of Arkansas. So why would I know Bama’s? LOL Maybe, it does get to be annoying to you Golden Domers because you really don’t know what it’s like to be a part of a real conference. You guys have been a part of the Big East only in basketball up to now. We here in SEC country feel that we have the toughest, deepest, most talented conference in football year in and year out, and we are usually right. But the bi-coastal based nature of our media and pop culture always seems to favor the conferences that appeal to those markets. This means your usual suspects: Notre Dame, USC, Mich, Penn St. pre-scandal, Ohio St., UCLA, Stanford, Texas, OU, Nebraska. It wasn’t until the people in the SEC began shouting out loud their conference’s initials during inter-conference games, that the rest of the country began to take notice that there were other teams out there besides those in the Big Ten, Big Twelve, and Pac 10.

  94. twoody50 says: Dec 6, 2012 7:21 PM

    Maybe ND will put 11 #2s on the field to confuse the refs again. Luck of the Irish.

  95. LasseterRTR says: Feb 28, 2013 1:27 AM

    42-14, looks like all the people that said Bama would kill ND on here were right, funny to go back and read what all the ND people wrote…

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