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And there is a B1G award named after her. By your narrow thinking, all B1G female athletes are represented by her as well.

Merry xmas, and maybe stop throwing stones.

Yes, as noted previously, I form opinions based on behavior, not where people are from or what teams they follow. Your bitter obsession with the SEC, bigoted stereotyping of all the people in the region, vulgarity, and cuckoo posts speak for themselves. Hmmm … you’re a former player? Perhaps you forgot to duck a few too many times. You poor thing.

I see Deb, our sanctimonious hypocrite poster who says she judges no-one, but yet judges EVERYONE is back. You started your attacks on me because I dare state the facts that the SEC is a less educated conference; and thus its easier to field better football and basketball teams. You and normtide get are pretty sensitive over the academic issue; guess you’ve heard that quite a bit from others in the past. I guess the truth hurts, doesn’t it? Get over yourself. I’m guessing you’re a Steeler fan the way you complain. Btw, I’ve forgotten more than you’ll ever know.

If you scan this ridiculously long thread, you’ll see some comments on the historic reasons Southerners pull for the conference when its teams play outside the SEC. And, of course, our internal rivalries are fierce. But you’re right about the cyclical nature of the sport. I’ve posted many times about the pendulum swings in football. The SEC is a dominant conference right now–that doesn’t necessarily mean we dominate any other specific conference, as you pointed out. However, the bitter, unprovoked, and volatile comments posted to SEC fans by some Big 10 fans–such as packerbadger–does suggest the SEC has rented space in his little pea brain.

As you noted, though, these things run in cycles. The Big 10, Pac-12, and ACC have dominated at various times in football history. One thing we all know–or should–is that the pendulum will swing again. That’s why we should enjoy it when our teams are up … but not get too comfortable. What goes up, must come down.

To Deb:
Thanks for not judging me you sanctimonious hypocrite. Theres lots of those down here. I bet you’re one of those “hypochristians”.

To woebegone:
Be gone already. Ask Santa for a spine because you obviously don’t have one.

To angleheartbuckey:
As much as I like to kick OSU’s azz, I still root for them and the other Big 10 teams in bowl games and games against other conferences. OSU is a good school. All Big 10 schools are good schools. The SEC has some good athletic teams; but when I lived up north, we joked about the “education” system they have compared to the other conferences. These conversations seem to come up more down here; but its more ACC. People in the SEC seem to be a bit hypersensitive when you bring up the academics…. seems SEC has inferiority complex. Buts its just like the Civil War; up north we never talked about it after my freshman yr in college, but they’re still fighting it down here.

I personally think he is going to get crushed in the SEC — not because it is so much better but because he is a mediocre coach.

I live in the South now and have since 1998. I have had this whole conference superiority conversation a few times. A few things; cfb is cyclical. The SEC is up right now — no doubt. However, I would really like it if SEC fans (amother phenomenia that boggles the mind–I cheer for my TEAM not my region, but whatever) could comprehend the simple fact that they DO NOT DOMINATE THE B1G.

Not every school in the B1G is tOSU. The heads up record between the B1G and the SEC shows a slight lead — nothing that would indicate complete domination.

Are you still here? Good grief.

My, you have poor reading-comprehension skills for someone with a doctoral degree. I didn’t say research grants aren’t an indicator of a school’s academic standing. I said the number of research grants awarded to an institution isn’t determined by the graduation rate of its football team.

I don’t judge people by their region of origin, the degrees they claim, or the football teams they support–and certainly not by the graduation rates of the football teams they support. I base my opinions on their behavior. Yours speaks volumes.

Here is all you need to know about Wisconsin: your coach passed on coaching in the rose bowl, to move to NW Arkansas. Not because you wanted him gone, before him you had one 11 win session. One. Just look how it chapped you, when he left.

“It’s a bit like your spouse walking in and saying she’s leaving you to marry your brother. ”
They’re used to that down south. If a couple is married in Alabama and gets a divorce in Arkansas…..are they still brother and sister?

Deb said:
constantly dragging academics into these football discussions, such as the hiring of Bret Bielema, is idiotic. This should never have been an argument in the first place. And I’m sure if the Big 10 had won the last six national titles, it wouldn’t have been. ”

Um, they’re called “Student Athletes”. Academics is part of being a student athlete.

Heartbreak will become your friend.

To give you a bit of the integrity of BB, he never so much as informed Barry Alvazez he was even thinking of leaving. He just walked in and said he was hired at Arkansas. It’s a bit like your spouse walking in and saying she’s leaving you to marry your brother. Alvarez picked him out from a group of other candidates and stuck by him when it was obvious he wasn’t ready to be a head coach. That’s the thanks you get from BB.

We won many games with BB there, but do you get the sense that most Wisconsin fans think another coach would be preferable?

I don’t know when you tripped in, dear, but both normtide and I have been making intelligent, football-based comments on this blog for years. However, we do reserve the right to talk back to fools who come on for the sole purpose of slamming our intellect, our history, our religion, and anything else they can think of to damn us as a collective simply because SEC football teams perform well on the field. That, my friend, is what I consider “mouthing off.”

The graduation rate of players on the football team does not determine the total academic performance of a university much less the total amount of research grants given to a school … which is why constantly dragging academics into these football discussions, such as the hiring of Bret Bielema, is idiotic. This should never have been an argument in the first place. And I’m sure if the Big 10 had won the last six national titles, it wouldn’t have been. But I suspect that’s a little too much intelligence for you.

A good standard of quality of education in a given conference or individual school is to determine the number and total amount of research grants given to the schools or school. That should end the argument. Or not.

Hard to decide whether to laugh or shake your head at these guys. They have no idea what the SEC’s academic rankings are. Half our schools rank higher than half the Big 10 schools. But it makes them feel better about their football irrelevance to troll our threads and tell us how stupid Southerners are. Then when we give it back to them, they go off half-cocked and start ranting like lunatics. Yeah, Tyrann Mathieu … one poor kid who grew up in squalor has had trouble adjusting. Clearly he is the posterchild for all the SEC … just as Jerry Sandusky is the posterchild for all the Big 10. Right.

I think pbadger needs some Xanax.

For someone who says that they don’t judge, you sure judge a lot!! Typical of a sanctimonious hypocrite. I bet you’re in church thumping your bible every Sunday too. I have the finesse of a freight train. If that runs over you…good!

Not quite sure what all that was about. I’m just talking smack with the guy who keeps ragging the SEC.

@packerbadgers …

Honey, I write with tongue firmly in cheek most of the time. Smack to you is just blathering nonsense. I use a little more finesse. If that confuses you … good

I also sense you have no sense of humor. You must be an accountant or chemist. Yes, Star was a good qb, but wouldn’t even be a back-up today; and sucked as a coach. Favre was my all time favorite before going south; and Reggie White was more responsible for resurecting the Pack.

I’m a happy go lucky fan. Packers rated the best pro sports franchise in all of sports; and a lot of that has to do with their happy fans drinking beer and eating brats at Lambeau. You are a bump on a log. Paterno was a legend until it was revealed he allowed more little boys to raped on Penn States campus which kind of wipes out the previous sixty yrs of accomplishments. Football to me is something to talk smack about, laugh and have a good time. For you its all serious and seems to consume your life.