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	<title>Comments on: Poll: will Johnny Manziel win another Heisman?</title>
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		<title>By: 8to80texansblog</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/08/poll-will-johnny-manziel-win-another-heisman/#comment-116908</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I very seriously doubt that Manziel can win another Heisman.  It will take him breaking his own SEC recod and an udefeated season with a trip to the NCG.  Plus he has a HUGE target on his back right now. DCs all over the SEC are licking their chops to take a shot at this guy.

Plus on top of that, I imagine that Sumlin tries to coach the run out of him and turn him in to more of a pocket passer as he installs the full offense with Manziel.  Sumlin is going to have to adjust the offense as defenses adapt to Manziel&#039;s style.  

If Sumlin can adapt Manziel fast, look for a Heisman follow up year like Tebows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very seriously doubt that Manziel can win another Heisman.  It will take him breaking his own SEC recod and an udefeated season with a trip to the NCG.  Plus he has a HUGE target on his back right now. DCs all over the SEC are licking their chops to take a shot at this guy.</p>
<p>Plus on top of that, I imagine that Sumlin tries to coach the run out of him and turn him in to more of a pocket passer as he installs the full offense with Manziel.  Sumlin is going to have to adjust the offense as defenses adapt to Manziel&#8217;s style.  </p>
<p>If Sumlin can adapt Manziel fast, look for a Heisman follow up year like Tebows.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 23:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@buckeye94 ...

Thanks for the good sportsmanship. I&#039;m a Bama fan, but for what it&#039;s worth, I don&#039;t believe Ohio State or any team should be slapped with bowl bans for infractions committed by players and coaches who are long gone from the program. I look forward to being able to compete against the Buckeyes when their sanctions are lifted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@buckeye94 &#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the good sportsmanship. I&#8217;m a Bama fan, but for what it&#8217;s worth, I don&#8217;t believe Ohio State or any team should be slapped with bowl bans for infractions committed by players and coaches who are long gone from the program. I look forward to being able to compete against the Buckeyes when their sanctions are lifted.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 23:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@dmcgrann ...

Seriously? You&#039;re picking on the handle &quot;amosalanzostagg&quot;? Do you spend much time on PFT (otherwise known as Censorship Central)? Half the guys over there have named themselves after their own bodily secretions or women&#039;s body parts. It&#039;s refreshing to see a guy who knows enough about football to have heard of Stagg. Who cares how long ago he coached? And some of the championships claimed by teams outside the SEC--like Notre Dame--are contested, too. That works both ways. His point was that all these petty posts about the one-dimensional SEC are nonsense ... and you&#039;re smart enough to know that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dmcgrann &#8230;</p>
<p>Seriously? You&#8217;re picking on the handle &#8220;amosalanzostagg&#8221;? Do you spend much time on PFT (otherwise known as Censorship Central)? Half the guys over there have named themselves after their own bodily secretions or women&#8217;s body parts. It&#8217;s refreshing to see a guy who knows enough about football to have heard of Stagg. Who cares how long ago he coached? And some of the championships claimed by teams outside the SEC&#8211;like Notre Dame&#8211;are contested, too. That works both ways. His point was that all these petty posts about the one-dimensional SEC are nonsense &#8230; and you&#8217;re smart enough to know that.</p>
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		<title>By: nd72mgr</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@amosalonzostag

First of all congratulations to Mr. Manziel, certainly a deserving winner, no question about it. As a ND alum I certainly had been hoping for the upset for Manti but he did pretty well in the award department (6 national awards). It will be tough to repeat but good luck to Johnny Football.

AAS, why are you comparing an entire conference, located in mostly warm weather states, with perhaps 100,000 or more undergraduates to a single school locked in the barren fields of  northern Indiana with just 8,000 undergrads. (I once spent an entire week there where the temperature never got above 0 degrees and a month where it never got above freezing.)

I think that the list of ND&#039;s NC&#039;s is pretty impressive considering the handicaps ND faces in recruiting (location, weather, academics). But I&#039;ll grant you that an entire conference will do better, especially when you have a school with Pat Summit coaching.

Oh, and before ND haters start complaining about their NBC TV deal published reports show that SEC schools averaged about $14 million from the SEC TV deal (and that is expected to nearly double in the next couple of years). So ND&#039;s $15M a year is not much better and both pale in comparison to the Big 10&#039;s nearly $23M a school.

To all the SEC fans, have a great holiday season, good luck to all your teams in the bowl season (except for &#039;Bama, of course).

Go Irish!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@amosalonzostag</p>
<p>First of all congratulations to Mr. Manziel, certainly a deserving winner, no question about it. As a ND alum I certainly had been hoping for the upset for Manti but he did pretty well in the award department (6 national awards). It will be tough to repeat but good luck to Johnny Football.</p>
<p>AAS, why are you comparing an entire conference, located in mostly warm weather states, with perhaps 100,000 or more undergraduates to a single school locked in the barren fields of  northern Indiana with just 8,000 undergrads. (I once spent an entire week there where the temperature never got above 0 degrees and a month where it never got above freezing.)</p>
<p>I think that the list of ND&#8217;s NC&#8217;s is pretty impressive considering the handicaps ND faces in recruiting (location, weather, academics). But I&#8217;ll grant you that an entire conference will do better, especially when you have a school with Pat Summit coaching.</p>
<p>Oh, and before ND haters start complaining about their NBC TV deal published reports show that SEC schools averaged about $14 million from the SEC TV deal (and that is expected to nearly double in the next couple of years). So ND&#8217;s $15M a year is not much better and both pale in comparison to the Big 10&#8242;s nearly $23M a school.</p>
<p>To all the SEC fans, have a great holiday season, good luck to all your teams in the bowl season (except for &#8216;Bama, of course).</p>
<p>Go Irish!</p>
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		<title>By: thegamecocker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thegamecocker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 19:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@IrishDodger

All SEC Teams root for any SEC team when we are in a NC game or series in ANY SPORT or ACTIVITY!  Even in a debating contest as these blogs appear to be.  Even in a Heisman Award like this.  Manti T&#039;eo exemplifies all that is good about Scholar-Athletes.  The same thing can be said about Johnny Manziel and Colin Klein.  I might add Marcus Lattimore to that group as well and I&#039;m sure you will add every athlete at ND.  That fine and good.  And like ND, every SEC team laughs ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK when one of our teams wins a NC.   Since we are talking about a business, it has become ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!  And the SEC wins in all aspects of that objective.   So yes, if you want to call us &quot;hangers on&quot;, you&#039;re entitled to your opinion.  I prefer not to characterize that way though: I prefer to position it as members of the greatest collegiate conference in the United States.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@IrishDodger</p>
<p>All SEC Teams root for any SEC team when we are in a NC game or series in ANY SPORT or ACTIVITY!  Even in a debating contest as these blogs appear to be.  Even in a Heisman Award like this.  Manti T&#8217;eo exemplifies all that is good about Scholar-Athletes.  The same thing can be said about Johnny Manziel and Colin Klein.  I might add Marcus Lattimore to that group as well and I&#8217;m sure you will add every athlete at ND.  That fine and good.  And like ND, every SEC team laughs ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK when one of our teams wins a NC.   Since we are talking about a business, it has become ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!  And the SEC wins in all aspects of that objective.   So yes, if you want to call us &#8220;hangers on&#8221;, you&#8217;re entitled to your opinion.  I prefer not to characterize that way though: I prefer to position it as members of the greatest collegiate conference in the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: t16rich</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[t16rich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He will win 4 Heisman&#039;s before entering the CFL draft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He will win 4 Heisman&#8217;s before entering the CFL draft.</p>
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		<title>By: amosalanzostagg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 17:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actual Manziel facts for the low information posters

SMU scramble

A&amp;M center Pat Lewis used a word that became synonymous with Johnny Football following the Aggies&#039; 48-3 triumph first displaying Manziel was truly special: Wow. The biggest &quot;wow&quot; moment occurred early in the third quarter, when SMU linebacker Taylor Reed wrapped his arms around Manziel for an apparent sack. But Manziel spun out of Reed&#039;s grasp, sprinted to his left, sprang in the air and fired a pinpoint 42-yard touchdown pass over leaping linebacker Ja&#039;Gared Davis.

&quot;That was frustrating,&quot; Reed said.

Louisiana Tech tackles

A play that didn&#039;t count is a favorite among many Manziel fans. Midway through the third quarter in Shreveport, A&amp;M back Christine Michael tried stretching the ball across the goal line. But it squirted loose, and the Bulldogs&#039; Chip Hester came up with the ball and sprinted the other way.

Manziel, in hot pursuit of Hester, fought off a block by Bulldogs safety Quinn Giles, and then knocked the ball loose from behind near the 50-yard line. Louisiana Tech&#039;s Mike Schrang came up with the rolling ball on the run, and Manziel wound up tackling him near the Aggies&#039; 30-yard line. Meanwhile, officials had ruled Michael down at the 1.

Offered Louisiana Tech defender Shakeil Lucas, &quot;That guy is fast, man.&quot;

Ole Miss desperation

Manziel has pointed to this as a season-changer for the 10-2 Aggies: On their first SEC road trip and midway through the fourth quarter, the Aggies trailed 27-17 and were down to their last gasp when Manziel was sacked within inches of A&amp;M&#039;s goal line. While the crowd roared for a safety, officials ruled the ball on the 1-foot line.

Two plays later from the end zone, Manziel launched a desperation pass fellow freshman Mike Evans hauled in for 32 yards along the right sideline. Running back Ben Malena followed with a 36-yard run, and on the next play Manziel sprinted in from 29 yards out.

Alabama bobble

In a play on every Manziel highlight reel this season, Manziel connected with a 10-yard touchdown pass to Ryan Swope early against Alabama. What&#039;s so special about a 10-yard touchdown pass? Where to start …

Manziel spun out of the pocket and momentarily lost his grip on the ball. It popped in the air, he grabbed it and fired the ball on a roll to the left to a wide-open Swope.

&quot;Their offense,&quot; said Alabama coach Nick Saban following the Aggies&#039; 29-24 road win, &quot;is a very difficult offense to stop.&quot;

Missouri melodrama

By the regular-season finale, a capacity crowd on hand at Kyle Field knew full well the importance of Johnny Football to A&amp;M. So the fans caught their collective breath when he exited late in the first quarter with a hurt left knee - to chants of &quot;Johnny! Johnny!&quot; - but returned four plays later with a knee brace.

&quot;Johnny is the most exciting player in the world,&quot; A&amp;M senior defensive lineman Spencer Nealy said. &quot;Heismanziel? That&#039;s pretty catching.&quot;

Game stats2012 
Game Log	Passing	Rushing
DATE	OPP	RESULT  	CMP 	ATT 	YDS 	CMP% 	LNG 	TD 	INT 	RAT 	ATT 	YDS 	AVG 	LNG 	TD
8/30	@Louisiana Tech	Postponed 	No statistics available.
9/8	Florida	L 20-17 	23 	30 	173 	76.7 	28 	0 	0 	125.1 	17 	60 	3.5 	16 	1
9/15	@Southern Methodist	W 48-3 	20 	36 	294 	55.6 	42 	4 	0 	160.8 	13 	124 	9.5 	48 	2
9/22	South Carolina State	W 70-14 	15 	20 	174 	75.0 	37 	3 	0 	197.6 	8 	78 	9.8 	39 	2
9/29	Arkansas	W 58-10 	29 	38 	453 	76.3 	80 	3 	0 	202.5 	14 	104 	7.4 	52 	1
10/6	@Ole Miss	W 30-27 	17 	26 	191 	65.4 	38 	1 	2 	124.4 	20 	129 	6.5 	38 	1
10/13	@Louisiana Tech	W 59-57 	24 	40 	395 	60.0 	75 	3 	1 	162.7 	19 	181 	9.5 	72 	3
10/20	LSU	L 24-19 	29 	56 	276 	51.8 	27 	0 	3 	82.5 	17 	27 	1.6 	14 	0
10/27	@Auburn	W 63-21 	16 	23 	260 	69.6 	50 	2 	0 	193.2 	9 	90 	10.0 	36 	3
11/3	@Mississippi State	W 38-13 	30 	36 	311 	83.3 	40 	0 	0 	155.9 	21 	129 	6.1 	37 	2
11/10	@Alabama	W 29-24 	24 	31 	253 	77.4 	42 	2 	0 	167.3 	18 	92 	5.1 	32 	0
11/17	Sam Houston State	W 47-28 	14 	20 	267 	70.0 	89 	3 	1 	221.6 	16 	100 	6.3 	22 	2
11/24	Missouri	W 59-29 	32 	44 	372 	72.7 	39 	3 	1 	161.7 	12 	67 	5.6 	18 	2]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actual Manziel facts for the low information posters</p>
<p>SMU scramble</p>
<p>A&amp;M center Pat Lewis used a word that became synonymous with Johnny Football following the Aggies&#8217; 48-3 triumph first displaying Manziel was truly special: Wow. The biggest &#8220;wow&#8221; moment occurred early in the third quarter, when SMU linebacker Taylor Reed wrapped his arms around Manziel for an apparent sack. But Manziel spun out of Reed&#8217;s grasp, sprinted to his left, sprang in the air and fired a pinpoint 42-yard touchdown pass over leaping linebacker Ja&#8217;Gared Davis.</p>
<p>&#8220;That was frustrating,&#8221; Reed said.</p>
<p>Louisiana Tech tackles</p>
<p>A play that didn&#8217;t count is a favorite among many Manziel fans. Midway through the third quarter in Shreveport, A&amp;M back Christine Michael tried stretching the ball across the goal line. But it squirted loose, and the Bulldogs&#8217; Chip Hester came up with the ball and sprinted the other way.</p>
<p>Manziel, in hot pursuit of Hester, fought off a block by Bulldogs safety Quinn Giles, and then knocked the ball loose from behind near the 50-yard line. Louisiana Tech&#8217;s Mike Schrang came up with the rolling ball on the run, and Manziel wound up tackling him near the Aggies&#8217; 30-yard line. Meanwhile, officials had ruled Michael down at the 1.</p>
<p>Offered Louisiana Tech defender Shakeil Lucas, &#8220;That guy is fast, man.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ole Miss desperation</p>
<p>Manziel has pointed to this as a season-changer for the 10-2 Aggies: On their first SEC road trip and midway through the fourth quarter, the Aggies trailed 27-17 and were down to their last gasp when Manziel was sacked within inches of A&amp;M&#8217;s goal line. While the crowd roared for a safety, officials ruled the ball on the 1-foot line.</p>
<p>Two plays later from the end zone, Manziel launched a desperation pass fellow freshman Mike Evans hauled in for 32 yards along the right sideline. Running back Ben Malena followed with a 36-yard run, and on the next play Manziel sprinted in from 29 yards out.</p>
<p>Alabama bobble</p>
<p>In a play on every Manziel highlight reel this season, Manziel connected with a 10-yard touchdown pass to Ryan Swope early against Alabama. What&#8217;s so special about a 10-yard touchdown pass? Where to start …</p>
<p>Manziel spun out of the pocket and momentarily lost his grip on the ball. It popped in the air, he grabbed it and fired the ball on a roll to the left to a wide-open Swope.</p>
<p>&#8220;Their offense,&#8221; said Alabama coach Nick Saban following the Aggies&#8217; 29-24 road win, &#8220;is a very difficult offense to stop.&#8221;</p>
<p>Missouri melodrama</p>
<p>By the regular-season finale, a capacity crowd on hand at Kyle Field knew full well the importance of Johnny Football to A&amp;M. So the fans caught their collective breath when he exited late in the first quarter with a hurt left knee &#8211; to chants of &#8220;Johnny! Johnny!&#8221; &#8211; but returned four plays later with a knee brace.</p>
<p>&#8220;Johnny is the most exciting player in the world,&#8221; A&amp;M senior defensive lineman Spencer Nealy said. &#8220;Heismanziel? That&#8217;s pretty catching.&#8221;</p>
<p>Game stats2012<br />
Game Log	Passing	Rushing<br />
DATE	OPP	RESULT  	CMP 	ATT 	YDS 	CMP% 	LNG 	TD 	INT 	RAT 	ATT 	YDS 	AVG 	LNG 	TD<br />
8/30	@Louisiana Tech	Postponed 	No statistics available.<br />
9/8	Florida	L 20-17 	23 	30 	173 	76.7 	28 	0 	0 	125.1 	17 	60 	3.5 	16 	1<br />
9/15	@Southern Methodist	W 48-3 	20 	36 	294 	55.6 	42 	4 	0 	160.8 	13 	124 	9.5 	48 	2<br />
9/22	South Carolina State	W 70-14 	15 	20 	174 	75.0 	37 	3 	0 	197.6 	8 	78 	9.8 	39 	2<br />
9/29	Arkansas	W 58-10 	29 	38 	453 	76.3 	80 	3 	0 	202.5 	14 	104 	7.4 	52 	1<br />
10/6	@Ole Miss	W 30-27 	17 	26 	191 	65.4 	38 	1 	2 	124.4 	20 	129 	6.5 	38 	1<br />
10/13	@Louisiana Tech	W 59-57 	24 	40 	395 	60.0 	75 	3 	1 	162.7 	19 	181 	9.5 	72 	3<br />
10/20	LSU	L 24-19 	29 	56 	276 	51.8 	27 	0 	3 	82.5 	17 	27 	1.6 	14 	0<br />
10/27	@Auburn	W 63-21 	16 	23 	260 	69.6 	50 	2 	0 	193.2 	9 	90 	10.0 	36 	3<br />
11/3	@Mississippi State	W 38-13 	30 	36 	311 	83.3 	40 	0 	0 	155.9 	21 	129 	6.1 	37 	2<br />
11/10	@Alabama	W 29-24 	24 	31 	253 	77.4 	42 	2 	0 	167.3 	18 	92 	5.1 	32 	0<br />
11/17	Sam Houston State	W 47-28 	14 	20 	267 	70.0 	89 	3 	1 	221.6 	16 	100 	6.3 	22 	2<br />
11/24	Missouri	W 59-29 	32 	44 	372 	72.7 	39 	3 	1 	161.7 	12 	67 	5.6 	18 	2</p>
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		<title>By: gamustangdude</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 16:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[will he win another Heismen, No.  Not because he won&#039;t put up numbers, he will.  But he&#039;ll have to do something spectacular to beat what he did this year.  The Heismen candidates this year wasn&#039;t the spectacular.  Doubt that happens next year. Last reason, is because he&#039;s playing in the SEC.  SEC defenses will be ready for him next year.  A&amp;M will be a 6-7 win team at best next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will he win another Heismen, No.  Not because he won&#8217;t put up numbers, he will.  But he&#8217;ll have to do something spectacular to beat what he did this year.  The Heismen candidates this year wasn&#8217;t the spectacular.  Doubt that happens next year. Last reason, is because he&#8217;s playing in the SEC.  SEC defenses will be ready for him next year.  A&amp;M will be a 6-7 win team at best next year.</p>
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		<title>By: earz4lsu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[earz4lsu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 15:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can he win another heisman, sure he will have at least 2 more chances.  Will he probably not.  Lets be honest this year was not a super talented list of contenders.  It certainly wasn&#039;t anywhere near as good as last year with the honey badger, rg3 and luck.  That&#039;s not even considering some of the players who were even invited to New York like, Monte Ball, Russell Wilson, Trent richardson, and Case Kennum.  

Next year there will be a list of players, Manziel will be on the top of the list, just like Barkley.   One bad game or a series of sub-par will allow someone else to jump into the mix.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can he win another heisman, sure he will have at least 2 more chances.  Will he probably not.  Lets be honest this year was not a super talented list of contenders.  It certainly wasn&#8217;t anywhere near as good as last year with the honey badger, rg3 and luck.  That&#8217;s not even considering some of the players who were even invited to New York like, Monte Ball, Russell Wilson, Trent richardson, and Case Kennum.  </p>
<p>Next year there will be a list of players, Manziel will be on the top of the list, just like Barkley.   One bad game or a series of sub-par will allow someone else to jump into the mix.</p>
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		<title>By: buckeye94</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 15:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a fan of Ohio st. I love the big ten. Now do I like the sec domination. No. Does that make them bad? Only of your on drugs. Sec has great coaches that have raised great teams every title is earned not given. If anyone should be angry at the sec it&#039;s Ohio st fans cuz a 1 loss bama team is ahead of us in the AP. The big ten has no respect for Ohio state I mean not one of our players made first team all big ten. Bama I believe will go in and beat notre dame. 

As for the heisman. I knew Manziel would win. As someone said Klein was just there for show but he&#039;s a great guy. I thought Teo was there cuz of what had happened to him not taking anything away from him but i saw a LB named Ryan Shazier for ohio state take field about midseason and have better stats in almost every category than Teo. The sec is tough so can Manziel repeat? It&#039;s possible. Remember there is Braxton Miller, DeAnthony Thomas who is phenemonal, and there are always guys who make a name like Manziel. Personally I want Ohio state to be the only one to claim the two time heisman winner but hey Manziel is good and goodluck to him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a fan of Ohio st. I love the big ten. Now do I like the sec domination. No. Does that make them bad? Only of your on drugs. Sec has great coaches that have raised great teams every title is earned not given. If anyone should be angry at the sec it&#8217;s Ohio st fans cuz a 1 loss bama team is ahead of us in the AP. The big ten has no respect for Ohio state I mean not one of our players made first team all big ten. Bama I believe will go in and beat notre dame. </p>
<p>As for the heisman. I knew Manziel would win. As someone said Klein was just there for show but he&#8217;s a great guy. I thought Teo was there cuz of what had happened to him not taking anything away from him but i saw a LB named Ryan Shazier for ohio state take field about midseason and have better stats in almost every category than Teo. The sec is tough so can Manziel repeat? It&#8217;s possible. Remember there is Braxton Miller, DeAnthony Thomas who is phenemonal, and there are always guys who make a name like Manziel. Personally I want Ohio state to be the only one to claim the two time heisman winner but hey Manziel is good and goodluck to him.</p>
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		<title>By: hrudey</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 15:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t he have to win one first? I thought Geno Smith had already won this year&#039;s Heisman. Guess I&#039;ve been too busy following next month&#039;s Presidential Election.

(Sorry, I was just curious about all this living in the past nonsense the ND fans seem to enjoy and wanted to try it for myself!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t he have to win one first? I thought Geno Smith had already won this year&#8217;s Heisman. Guess I&#8217;ve been too busy following next month&#8217;s Presidential Election.</p>
<p>(Sorry, I was just curious about all this living in the past nonsense the ND fans seem to enjoy and wanted to try it for myself!)</p>
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		<title>By: burgandy2260</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 14:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s doubtful that he will win a 2nd. I guess it all depends on who has the media coverage next year. It&#039;s amazing how all these experts float back and forth on a weekly basis on who will win and who won&#039;t depending on who has a bigger story on Sportscenter! Not to take anything away from his abilities but Manziel was the GOLDEN CHILD the minute TAMU beat BAMA. If you watch all these &quot;experts&quot; and/or former players on a weekly basis as they inch fwd on their predictions all they really do is build the hype on a player, get them to really believe that they have a shot and then they back pedal the following week as to not be alone on the band wagon once others change their minds. I would&#039;ve loved to have seen how many times Mike Mayock &amp; Mel Kiper, Jr changed their minds. It&#039;s just like watching them analyze draft picks. Billy Beane said in Moneyball, &quot;I&#039;ve sat at those kitchen tables and watch you tell these parents that when you know you know and when it comes to their so, you know. AND YOU DON&#039;T...YOU DON&#039;T!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s doubtful that he will win a 2nd. I guess it all depends on who has the media coverage next year. It&#8217;s amazing how all these experts float back and forth on a weekly basis on who will win and who won&#8217;t depending on who has a bigger story on Sportscenter! Not to take anything away from his abilities but Manziel was the GOLDEN CHILD the minute TAMU beat BAMA. If you watch all these &#8220;experts&#8221; and/or former players on a weekly basis as they inch fwd on their predictions all they really do is build the hype on a player, get them to really believe that they have a shot and then they back pedal the following week as to not be alone on the band wagon once others change their minds. I would&#8217;ve loved to have seen how many times Mike Mayock &amp; Mel Kiper, Jr changed their minds. It&#8217;s just like watching them analyze draft picks. Billy Beane said in Moneyball, &#8220;I&#8217;ve sat at those kitchen tables and watch you tell these parents that when you know you know and when it comes to their so, you know. AND YOU DON&#8217;T&#8230;YOU DON&#8217;T!!</p>
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		<title>By: golewgo2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 13:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A repeat heisman will be difficult to pull off,with this year being an odd year with very few standout performances. The next few years will be more competitive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A repeat heisman will be difficult to pull off,with this year being an odd year with very few standout performances. The next few years will be more competitive.</p>
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		<title>By: gamustangdude</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 13:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@irishdodger – 

It&#039;s not so much the fans, as it is the media shouting SEC SEC SEC.  Hell, even this site wrote an article on how the SEC more than likely won&#039;t have a team represented in the NC game after 6 straight appearances when Bama lost to A&amp;M.   Some fans of other SEC schools may cheer for another SEC team in the championship game other than &quot;their&quot; team. personally I, as a UGA fan, never &quot;cheered&quot; for UF or Tenn when they were playing in title games.  That being said, if a SEC team does win it all, it looks good for the conference.  It pays well for the conference too.  That&#039;s the big kicker.  However, what we do put our hats on more than Championship games is the fact that not only due certain SEC teams have had 6 straight national titles, but the SEC champion hasn&#039;t had a repeat winner since the late 90&#039;s.  Not only that, the SEC leads all other conferences in BCS bowl game wins.  The title is one game, and any team can win on any given saturday. But SEC fans would rather see a SEC team win the championship rather than any other conference.  Maybe we do cheer for our conference more than most other conferences.  But, I would rather see Alabama beat ND, then the latter.  I would rather see UF, Tenn, South Carolina win the NC over any other school not in the SEC, other than UGA.  Will I cheer for those teams? No, but if those other teams win, it looks good for the conference as a whole.  At least in my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@irishdodger – </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so much the fans, as it is the media shouting SEC SEC SEC.  Hell, even this site wrote an article on how the SEC more than likely won&#8217;t have a team represented in the NC game after 6 straight appearances when Bama lost to A&amp;M.   Some fans of other SEC schools may cheer for another SEC team in the championship game other than &#8220;their&#8221; team. personally I, as a UGA fan, never &#8220;cheered&#8221; for UF or Tenn when they were playing in title games.  That being said, if a SEC team does win it all, it looks good for the conference.  It pays well for the conference too.  That&#8217;s the big kicker.  However, what we do put our hats on more than Championship games is the fact that not only due certain SEC teams have had 6 straight national titles, but the SEC champion hasn&#8217;t had a repeat winner since the late 90&#8242;s.  Not only that, the SEC leads all other conferences in BCS bowl game wins.  The title is one game, and any team can win on any given saturday. But SEC fans would rather see a SEC team win the championship rather than any other conference.  Maybe we do cheer for our conference more than most other conferences.  But, I would rather see Alabama beat ND, then the latter.  I would rather see UF, Tenn, South Carolina win the NC over any other school not in the SEC, other than UGA.  Will I cheer for those teams? No, but if those other teams win, it looks good for the conference as a whole.  At least in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: blitz4848</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 13:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[S = Success

E = Equals

C = Championships]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S = Success</p>
<p>E = Equals</p>
<p>C = Championships</p>
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		<title>By: dinklespiel</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 12:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason Manziel was shut down in the Florida  and LSU game is because the first half is the &quot;players&quot; half and the second half is the &quot;coaches&quot; half where the coaches make critical adjustments. Johnny had two great first halts against both teams, unfortunately his coach got out-coached in the second halfs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason Manziel was shut down in the Florida  and LSU game is because the first half is the &#8220;players&#8221; half and the second half is the &#8220;coaches&#8221; half where the coaches make critical adjustments. Johnny had two great first halts against both teams, unfortunately his coach got out-coached in the second halfs.</p>
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		<title>By: ndrocks2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 11:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome stats and great win against Alabama.  Other than that never heard of him until Bama win and ESPN ran with it.  

Will he win it again, not likely?  I assume the SEC will chew up the Aggies the next three years more than not and the team record won’t support it.  Also, fame can be fleeting as soon as he has two loses by mid-season ESPN will jump on next year’s likely winner, Braxton Miller.

I don’t even know if he will be drafted in the NFL to play QB he’s just too small, he’s listed at 6’ 1” no way looking at that group shot of the other two finalists, maybe 5’11”, maybe.  

But hey congrats for the year enjoy!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome stats and great win against Alabama.  Other than that never heard of him until Bama win and ESPN ran with it.  </p>
<p>Will he win it again, not likely?  I assume the SEC will chew up the Aggies the next three years more than not and the team record won’t support it.  Also, fame can be fleeting as soon as he has two loses by mid-season ESPN will jump on next year’s likely winner, Braxton Miller.</p>
<p>I don’t even know if he will be drafted in the NFL to play QB he’s just too small, he’s listed at 6’ 1” no way looking at that group shot of the other two finalists, maybe 5’11”, maybe.  </p>
<p>But hey congrats for the year enjoy!!!</p>
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		<title>By: goodfieldnohit</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 07:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@irishdodger - 

Doesn&#039;t matter, beat Bama. 

At the end of the day, Notre Dame will not be able to make that claim.

But Johnny Football sure as hell can.


Sour grapes suck, learn how to be a gracious second finish place finisher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@irishdodger &#8211; </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter, beat Bama. </p>
<p>At the end of the day, Notre Dame will not be able to make that claim.</p>
<p>But Johnny Football sure as hell can.</p>
<p>Sour grapes suck, learn how to be a gracious second finish place finisher.</p>
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		<title>By: barbeaux</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 07:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[6 of the top ten are sec teams.]]></description>
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		<title>By: barbeaux</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[barbeaux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 07:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[^refer to my prior comment.]]></description>
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		<title>By: floridascuba1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 07:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sec sucks. Over rated]]></description>
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		<title>By: barbeaux</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 06:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[^uh, maybe one is contested if you live in Southern California. Otherwise, the rest are extremely cut and dry for the SEC. What the hell are you thinking?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^uh, maybe one is contested if you live in Southern California. Otherwise, the rest are extremely cut and dry for the SEC. What the hell are you thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: dmcgrann</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 06:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gee, I didn&#039;t know that the Elias Sports Bureau could post here. Reminds me of the story where the fellas were playing poker, and one guy, who thought he had a great hand, laid his wallet on the table and said, &quot;I call&quot;.

Another fellow put his shoe on top of the wallet. The first guy asked what that was all about, and the shoe-thrower said, &quot;Well, if we&#039;re playing for leather, I call.&quot;

We get it, amosalanzostagg, though Amos AlOnzo Stagg hasn&#039;t been a head coach since 1946, or even alive since 1965. Heck, John Heisman died in 1936, and his last football head coaching gig was at Rice in 1927 - not to mention the lasting success he provided Oberlin from his tenure there. And, you know as well as anyone else that a couple of those &quot;SEC football national championships&quot; are contested. Not that many, but some.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, I didn&#8217;t know that the Elias Sports Bureau could post here. Reminds me of the story where the fellas were playing poker, and one guy, who thought he had a great hand, laid his wallet on the table and said, &#8220;I call&#8221;.</p>
<p>Another fellow put his shoe on top of the wallet. The first guy asked what that was all about, and the shoe-thrower said, &#8220;Well, if we&#8217;re playing for leather, I call.&#8221;</p>
<p>We get it, amosalanzostagg, though Amos AlOnzo Stagg hasn&#8217;t been a head coach since 1946, or even alive since 1965. Heck, John Heisman died in 1936, and his last football head coaching gig was at Rice in 1927 &#8211; not to mention the lasting success he provided Oberlin from his tenure there. And, you know as well as anyone else that a couple of those &#8220;SEC football national championships&#8221; are contested. Not that many, but some.</p>
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		<title>By: amosalanzostagg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 05:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Irishdodger says: Dec 8, 2012 11:52 PM

@amosalanzostagg:

That’s some sweet irony about the participation trophy &amp; such. Congrats to Manziel but no one knows participation trophies like all the SEC hangers on like Kentucky, Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy, Georgia, Mizzou, South Carolina &amp; Arkansas. Fans of those teams know their team will never compete for a NC, so they live vicariously through Bama, LSU &amp; UF. Then to further prove their inferiority complex, they shout “SEC!” after Bama wins a NC. AD don’t give me that “you don’t understand” crap. Look at Auburn &amp; Bama fans….u think Auburn is rooting for the SEC in the NC game? Hellllllll no…they appreciate the hatred that goes into a true rivalry. Same goes w/ Bama fan when Auburn won a few yrs ago….Bammers weren’t cheering for Auburn. And don’t give me the money excuse either….u come off sounding like a welfare recipient….besides your conference gets the money just for being in the game, not winning it. Y’all are like Cal Naughton in Talladegha Nights….you’re just Ricky Bobby’s wing man &amp; the wing man is Bama. Sad.

____________________

No, what is sad is seeing Notre Dame act like Randolph Duke screaming to &quot;turn the machines on, turn the machines back on!&quot; out of  &quot;Trading Places&quot;. Your precious little Rudy opined and then whined about Manziel winning over an AVERAGE linebacker from Notre Dame. Manti would not have seen the light of day at a Heisman award presentation if Notre Dame was not playing in the National Championship game. He is an average linebacker on his good days.

Now to your pathetic tirade against the SEC.

Let&#039;s compare National Championships since 1989

Notre Dame National Championships
Fencing:  (Combined) 1994, 2003, 2005, 2011,
Women&#039;s soccer: 1995, 2004, 2010,
Women&#039;s basketball: 2001

the pathetic SEC and all their hanger ons.

Football

1992 	Alabama 	AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck, FACT, FB News, Football Research, FW, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NY Times, Sporting News, UPI/NFF, USA/CNN 	Yes
1993 	Auburn 	National Championship Foundation 	No
1996 	Florida 	AP, Berryman, Billingsley, Eck, FACT, FB News, FW, NFF, Sagarin, Sporting News, USA/CNN, NY Times, National Championship Foundation, Dunkel, Matthews, DeVold 	Yes
1998 	Tennessee 	Alderson, AP, BCS, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck, FACT, FB News, FW, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NFF, NY Times, Seattle Times, Sporting News, USA/ESPN 	Yes
2003 	LSU 	AP, BCS, Billingsley, Colley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT, Massey, NFF, Sagarin, Seattle Times, USA/ESPN 	Yes
2006 	Florida 	BCS, USA Today, AP 	Yes
2007 	LSU 	BCS, USA Today, AP 	Yes
2008 	Florida 	BCS, USA Today, AP 	Yes
2009 	Alabama 	BCS, USA Today, AP 	Yes
2010 	Auburn 	BCS, USA Today, AP 	Yes
2011 	Alabama 	BCS, USA Today, AP

Mens Basketball

1994 	Arkansas 	
1996 	Kentucky 	
1998 	Kentucky 	
2006 	Florida 	
2007 	Florida 	
2012 	Kentucky 	

Women&#039;s Basketball
1989 	Tennessee
1991 	Tennessee
1996 	Tennessee
1997 	Tennessee
1998 	Tennessee
2007 	Tennessee
2008 	Tennessee

Men&#039;sTrack and Field

1992 	Arkansas
1993 	Arkansas
1994 	Arkansas
1995 	Arkansas
1997 	Arkansas
1998 	Arkansas
1999 	Arkansas
2000 	Arkansas
2001 	LSU
2002 	Tennessee
2003 	Arkansas
2004 	LSU
2005 	Arkansas
2006 	Arkansas
2010 	Florida
2011 	Florida
2012 	Florida

Men&#039;s Baseball
1990 	Georgia
1991 	LSU
1993 	LSU
1996 	LSU
1997 	LSU
2000 	LSU
2009 	LSU
2010 	South Carolina
2011 	South Carolina

I could go on, no need to. Face it, Notre Dame tries to wake up the echos of a bygone era by thumping their collective chests by saying &quot;We&#039;re relevant again!&quot; Big Deal. Once every 25 years does not a dynasty make. Your pedigree is worn and tattered. Notre Dame is a fine school with great sheltered courses for their Football and basketball teams. Same as any big time sports factory.

 Point is, why didn&#039;t you  apply for admission to the SEC instead of being a provisional member of the ACC? Answer, your teams couldn&#039;t face the rigors of an SEC conference schedule in any sport. 

Why not go find a nice bree to go with all your whining?

BTW, I&#039;m a Bama grad, 1968 not TAMU and I do look forward to playing Notre Dame in the National Championship game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irishdodger says: Dec 8, 2012 11:52 PM</p>
<p>@amosalanzostagg:</p>
<p>That’s some sweet irony about the participation trophy &amp; such. Congrats to Manziel but no one knows participation trophies like all the SEC hangers on like Kentucky, Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy, Georgia, Mizzou, South Carolina &amp; Arkansas. Fans of those teams know their team will never compete for a NC, so they live vicariously through Bama, LSU &amp; UF. Then to further prove their inferiority complex, they shout “SEC!” after Bama wins a NC. AD don’t give me that “you don’t understand” crap. Look at Auburn &amp; Bama fans….u think Auburn is rooting for the SEC in the NC game? Hellllllll no…they appreciate the hatred that goes into a true rivalry. Same goes w/ Bama fan when Auburn won a few yrs ago….Bammers weren’t cheering for Auburn. And don’t give me the money excuse either….u come off sounding like a welfare recipient….besides your conference gets the money just for being in the game, not winning it. Y’all are like Cal Naughton in Talladegha Nights….you’re just Ricky Bobby’s wing man &amp; the wing man is Bama. Sad.</p>
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<p>No, what is sad is seeing Notre Dame act like Randolph Duke screaming to &#8220;turn the machines on, turn the machines back on!&#8221; out of  &#8220;Trading Places&#8221;. Your precious little Rudy opined and then whined about Manziel winning over an AVERAGE linebacker from Notre Dame. Manti would not have seen the light of day at a Heisman award presentation if Notre Dame was not playing in the National Championship game. He is an average linebacker on his good days.</p>
<p>Now to your pathetic tirade against the SEC.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s compare National Championships since 1989</p>
<p>Notre Dame National Championships<br />
Fencing:  (Combined) 1994, 2003, 2005, 2011,<br />
Women&#8217;s soccer: 1995, 2004, 2010,<br />
Women&#8217;s basketball: 2001</p>
<p>the pathetic SEC and all their hanger ons.</p>
<p>Football</p>
<p>1992 	Alabama 	AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck, FACT, FB News, Football Research, FW, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NY Times, Sporting News, UPI/NFF, USA/CNN 	Yes<br />
1993 	Auburn 	National Championship Foundation 	No<br />
1996 	Florida 	AP, Berryman, Billingsley, Eck, FACT, FB News, FW, NFF, Sagarin, Sporting News, USA/CNN, NY Times, National Championship Foundation, Dunkel, Matthews, DeVold 	Yes<br />
1998 	Tennessee 	Alderson, AP, BCS, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck, FACT, FB News, FW, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NFF, NY Times, Seattle Times, Sporting News, USA/ESPN 	Yes<br />
2003 	LSU 	AP, BCS, Billingsley, Colley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT, Massey, NFF, Sagarin, Seattle Times, USA/ESPN 	Yes<br />
2006 	Florida 	BCS, USA Today, AP 	Yes<br />
2007 	LSU 	BCS, USA Today, AP 	Yes<br />
2008 	Florida 	BCS, USA Today, AP 	Yes<br />
2009 	Alabama 	BCS, USA Today, AP 	Yes<br />
2010 	Auburn 	BCS, USA Today, AP 	Yes<br />
2011 	Alabama 	BCS, USA Today, AP</p>
<p>Mens Basketball</p>
<p>1994 	Arkansas<br />
1996 	Kentucky<br />
1998 	Kentucky<br />
2006 	Florida<br />
2007 	Florida<br />
2012 	Kentucky 	</p>
<p>Women&#8217;s Basketball<br />
1989 	Tennessee<br />
1991 	Tennessee<br />
1996 	Tennessee<br />
1997 	Tennessee<br />
1998 	Tennessee<br />
2007 	Tennessee<br />
2008 	Tennessee</p>
<p>Men&#8217;sTrack and Field</p>
<p>1992 	Arkansas<br />
1993 	Arkansas<br />
1994 	Arkansas<br />
1995 	Arkansas<br />
1997 	Arkansas<br />
1998 	Arkansas<br />
1999 	Arkansas<br />
2000 	Arkansas<br />
2001 	LSU<br />
2002 	Tennessee<br />
2003 	Arkansas<br />
2004 	LSU<br />
2005 	Arkansas<br />
2006 	Arkansas<br />
2010 	Florida<br />
2011 	Florida<br />
2012 	Florida</p>
<p>Men&#8217;s Baseball<br />
1990 	Georgia<br />
1991 	LSU<br />
1993 	LSU<br />
1996 	LSU<br />
1997 	LSU<br />
2000 	LSU<br />
2009 	LSU<br />
2010 	South Carolina<br />
2011 	South Carolina</p>
<p>I could go on, no need to. Face it, Notre Dame tries to wake up the echos of a bygone era by thumping their collective chests by saying &#8220;We&#8217;re relevant again!&#8221; Big Deal. Once every 25 years does not a dynasty make. Your pedigree is worn and tattered. Notre Dame is a fine school with great sheltered courses for their Football and basketball teams. Same as any big time sports factory.</p>
<p> Point is, why didn&#8217;t you  apply for admission to the SEC instead of being a provisional member of the ACC? Answer, your teams couldn&#8217;t face the rigors of an SEC conference schedule in any sport. </p>
<p>Why not go find a nice bree to go with all your whining?</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m a Bama grad, 1968 not TAMU and I do look forward to playing Notre Dame in the National Championship game.</p>
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		<title>By: ningenito78</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 05:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Highly doubt he repeats. It&#039;s too tough. If St. Tebow didn&#039;t this kid probably won&#039;t. But if TAMU ends up being a NC contender during his time there then anything is possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Highly doubt he repeats. It&#8217;s too tough. If St. Tebow didn&#8217;t this kid probably won&#8217;t. But if TAMU ends up being a NC contender during his time there then anything is possible.</p>
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		<title>By: 2fleas</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 05:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if he will repeat.  What&#039;s more important to aggie fans and probably to Johnny himself is that A&amp;M wins a national championship while he&#039;s the QB.  There are crazy good recruits coming to College Station because of the amazing inaugural season. I hope he repeats but I would prefer a championship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if he will repeat.  What&#8217;s more important to aggie fans and probably to Johnny himself is that A&amp;M wins a national championship while he&#8217;s the QB.  There are crazy good recruits coming to College Station because of the amazing inaugural season. I hope he repeats but I would prefer a championship.</p>
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		<title>By: wethog66</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 05:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are now 4 &quot;Call me Johnny Heisman&quot; pop up adds on the SI.com home page right now.  3 of them are right next to each other.

Really A&amp;M?  Do you really need to spam something like the SI.com home page with Johnny Heisman adds?

How does that old football saying go?  Act like you&#039;ve been there before?  Yeah, Aggies Nation, we get you are proud of Johnny Heisman, but act like you&#039;ve won something like that before, even if you haven&#039;t.  You are in the SEC now.  Time to put on the big boy pants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are now 4 &#8220;Call me Johnny Heisman&#8221; pop up adds on the SI.com home page right now.  3 of them are right next to each other.</p>
<p>Really A&amp;M?  Do you really need to spam something like the SI.com home page with Johnny Heisman adds?</p>
<p>How does that old football saying go?  Act like you&#8217;ve been there before?  Yeah, Aggies Nation, we get you are proud of Johnny Heisman, but act like you&#8217;ve won something like that before, even if you haven&#8217;t.  You are in the SEC now.  Time to put on the big boy pants.</p>
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		<title>By: irishdodger</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 04:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@amosalanzostagg:

That&#039;s some sweet irony about the participation trophy &amp; such.  Congrats to Manziel but no one knows participation trophies like all the SEC hangers on like Kentucky, Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy, Georgia, Mizzou, South Carolina &amp; Arkansas.  Fans of those teams know their team will never compete for a NC, so they live vicariously through Bama, LSU &amp; UF.  Then to further prove their inferiority complex, they shout &quot;SEC!&quot; after Bama wins a NC.  AD don&#039;t give me that &quot;you don&#039;t understand&quot; crap.  Look at Auburn &amp; Bama fans....u think Auburn is rooting for the SEC in the NC game? Hellllllll no...they appreciate the hatred that goes into a true rivalry.  Same goes w/ Bama fan when Auburn won a few yrs ago....Bammers weren&#039;t cheering for Auburn.  And don&#039;t give me the money excuse either....u come off sounding like a welfare recipient....besides your conference gets the money just for being in the game, not winning it.  Y&#039;all are like Cal Naughton in  Talladegha Nights....you&#039;re just Ricky Bobby&#039;s wing man &amp; the wing man is Bama.  Sad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@amosalanzostagg:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s some sweet irony about the participation trophy &amp; such.  Congrats to Manziel but no one knows participation trophies like all the SEC hangers on like Kentucky, Ole Miss, MSU, Vandy, Georgia, Mizzou, South Carolina &amp; Arkansas.  Fans of those teams know their team will never compete for a NC, so they live vicariously through Bama, LSU &amp; UF.  Then to further prove their inferiority complex, they shout &#8220;SEC!&#8221; after Bama wins a NC.  AD don&#8217;t give me that &#8220;you don&#8217;t understand&#8221; crap.  Look at Auburn &amp; Bama fans&#8230;.u think Auburn is rooting for the SEC in the NC game? Hellllllll no&#8230;they appreciate the hatred that goes into a true rivalry.  Same goes w/ Bama fan when Auburn won a few yrs ago&#8230;.Bammers weren&#8217;t cheering for Auburn.  And don&#8217;t give me the money excuse either&#8230;.u come off sounding like a welfare recipient&#8230;.besides your conference gets the money just for being in the game, not winning it.  Y&#8217;all are like Cal Naughton in  Talladegha Nights&#8230;.you&#8217;re just Ricky Bobby&#8217;s wing man &amp; the wing man is Bama.  Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: thraiderskin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 04:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as he plays (and mostly wins) in the SEC and gets that signature moment, he will win another. I&#039;m not going to get into what is and is not hype, but lets just say the three letters, S E C, will give him a leg up no matter what.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as he plays (and mostly wins) in the SEC and gets that signature moment, he will win another. I&#8217;m not going to get into what is and is not hype, but lets just say the three letters, S E C, will give him a leg up no matter what.</p>
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		<title>By: irishdodger</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 04:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@normtide:

Congrats to Manziel, but I disagree w/ your statement about shutting him down.  LSU did just that.  I know everyone focuses on the Bama win &amp; the cupcakes that he  rolled up all those numbers on, but u need to credit your SEC brethren b/c LSU solved the kid &amp; shut him down in a hard fought win.  Florida did similarly in the 2nd half.  He still outplayed Driskell but his team lost nonetheless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@normtide:</p>
<p>Congrats to Manziel, but I disagree w/ your statement about shutting him down.  LSU did just that.  I know everyone focuses on the Bama win &amp; the cupcakes that he  rolled up all those numbers on, but u need to credit your SEC brethren b/c LSU solved the kid &amp; shut him down in a hard fought win.  Florida did similarly in the 2nd half.  He still outplayed Driskell but his team lost nonetheless.</p>
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