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Report: NCAA infractions hearing looming for Ducks

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It’s been nearly a year since anything relevant has surfaced on the NCAA’s investigation of the Oregon football program as it relates to Willie Lyles.

Based on one report, that could very well change once the calendar flips from 2012 to 2013..

Oregon had been crossing every available appendage in the hope that the probe into its program would end in a summary disposition, with the NCAA agreeing to UO’s findings on rules violations and sanctions and end a saga that’s nearly two years in the making.  That apparently won’t be the case as Yahoo! Sports is reporting that the school’s bid for a summary disposition has failed, which will trigger an appearance in front of the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions.

While the exact date of the hearing is not yet known, Yahoo! reports that it will likely take place in the spring.  UO received its Letter of Inquiry from the NCAA in September of 2011.

In March of 2011, both Yahoo! and published reports that called into question the financial relationship between Oregon and a pair of so-called recruiting services.  One of those services was/is Complete Scouting Services, solely owned and operated by purported “street agent” Willie Lyles.

In late February of 2010, Oregon purchased for $25,000 from Lyles’ scouting service what was described as a “2011 National Package” that detailed recruits from several states.  One of the biggest problems with that? The package for 2011 purchased by UO contained zero recruits that would make up the following year’s recruiting class.  Instead, the vast majority of players highlighted in the 143-page book UO received from Lyles contained data on members of the 2009 recruiting class.

In the midst of rumors that Lyles had steered recruits such as Lache Seastrunk to the Ducks — and that he was paid handsomely for said steering (allegedly) — the man at the center of the controversy claimed in July of 2011 that UO “paid for what they saw as my access and influence with recruits. The service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should … I made a mistake and I’m big enough of a man to admit I was wrong.”

That claim came a couple of months after Lyles, who has spoken to the NCAA on multiple occasions, labeled as ““unequivocally false” reports that he steered recruits to universities.

This latest development comes amid speculation that Ducks head coach Chip Kelly could be headed to the NFL following the completion of the 2012 season.  Such a move would be eerily reminiscent of another Pac-12 head coach leaving for the for the next level amid a lingering NCAA cloud; shortly before the NCAA hammered the USC program for violations, Pete Carroll, in a move that should be considered nothing more than a coincidence winkwink nudgenudge, left for the Seattle Seahawks.

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28 Responses to “Report: NCAA infractions hearing looming for Ducks”
  1. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Dec 19, 2012 6:04 PM

    And 2 years later Miami is still floating in the wind.

    NCAA is a joke.

  2. burgandy2260 says: Dec 19, 2012 6:20 PM

    I still have no idea what team would want Kelly in the NFL? His offense is made for young kids who are barely out of their teens. It’s not made for a professional team. The hurry up offense is a strategy in the big leagues not a concrete game plan and veteran players are not going to be very receptive. Kelly had his shot last year and he declined the Bucs job. Who would want him now? Knowing my luck, my beloved BEARS will hire him and I’ll be miserable for another 10 years.

  3. alligatorsnapper says: Dec 19, 2012 6:22 PM

    Willie Lyles gets around, leaving NCAA violations in his wake.

    Another coach to leave his team when NCAA penalties are coming down to greener pastures in the NFL? Where have I heard that before?

    I don’t wish this on the good Duck fans I know. Great fans, even in losing to LSU and being dominated on the line and even in speed. I would attend a game with any of these Duck fans I know anytime. Classy folks. I am sorry for them as to what appears will happen in Spring 2013. Anxiety filled time between now and then for the many Duck fans and the Oregon AD and football department. Good Duck fans–Have a great Christmas with your families and friends and just forget about all this mess until it happens. No need to be uptight about it all. Enjoy Christmas and the new year and it all will happen later.

  4. deadeye says: Dec 19, 2012 6:25 PM

    Anyone notice that the college “trick” offenses are finding their way little by little into the NFL? Chip Kelly will get his shot soon.

  5. rolltide510 says: Dec 19, 2012 6:25 PM

    YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says:
    Dec 19, 2012 6:04 PM
    And 2 years later Miami is still floating in the wind.

    NCAA is a joke.


    Yeah, they’ve played in some pretty great bowl games the past two years, huh?

  6. jimbo75025 says: Dec 19, 2012 6:37 PM

    Crying shame when these coaches (and players also for that matter) pull some shenanigans and then waltz off to NFL paychecks while the programs are left holding the bag. Oh well, it’s never going to stop until the NFL/NCAA get on the same page in terms of carrying over penalties.

  7. uscatjerseyshore says: Dec 19, 2012 7:03 PM

    It hard to believe that Uncle Phil and Nike money weren’t able to buy Oregon’s way out of this. He and Nike have built state of the art arenas and palatial training facilities but the university’s general fund needs to pay for continuing support. In the meantime the academic side of the house is left wanting in Phil Knight’s quest to buy a Duck national championship.

    The UO football program house of cards is about to fall. A mediocre defense and a gimmick based offense is not going to win a NC. Thomas Tyner is on his way to flip to UCLA and Dontre Wilson will be looking for something closer to his home in Texas.

    Sorry Ducks your 10 minutes of fame is up.

  8. necr0philia says: Dec 19, 2012 7:40 PM

    And Yahoo does it again! GET A LIFE YOU TRASHY A$$ REPORTERS.


  9. timh1955 says: Dec 19, 2012 7:40 PM

    Whatever happens to UO I am still glad they have been so good the past few years and have shown USC they aren’t the captain of the PAC12 ship anymore. In fact USC is in the middle of the PAC12 at best. I hope UO doesn’t get hit too hard by the NCAA as they seem to be a class school.

  10. xtremesportsmaniac says: Dec 19, 2012 8:06 PM

    These schools need to learn that according to NCAA rules it is only acceptable to cheat if you are in the SEC.

    They have the smoking gun with Oregon and Lyles but they also have dirt on LSU granted is it not as severe.

    I live in SEC country and love watching SEC football but it is amazing what those schools are allowed to get away with compared to other conferences. Mike Slive is the most powerful man in college athletics.

  11. ronin262 says: Dec 19, 2012 8:30 PM

    I feel bad for Ducks fans in having to wait to find out the penalties, if any. I wonder if recruiting will take a hit, especially if Kelly leaves for the NFL. Guys like Lyles are the worst parasites around, latching themselves onto high school kids like a football pimp.

  12. manchestermiracle says: Dec 19, 2012 9:16 PM

    After listening to Duck fans chortle over the sanctions put on USC, I have little to no sympathy now that it’s their turn.

  13. tampabayirish says: Dec 19, 2012 9:45 PM

    Oregon is going to get hit hard on two fronts: Someone in the NFL will give Chip Kelly a shot (and he, like Pete Carroll, knows when to get out of town and stay one step ahead of the posse). And the NCAA has got to hit Oregon hard for the Willie Lyles affair. With USC hurt by scholarship limits (and piss poor coaching) and storm clouds in Eugene, could we see UCLA and or Stanford as the new kings of the Pac-12? Stanford knows who they are in terms of identity and I think UCLA is almost there too. Pac-12 football should be fun to watch for the next several years.

  14. deefig says: Dec 19, 2012 9:46 PM

    Hey U of Oh

    Watch Chip walk away from you.

    Welcome to mediocrity.

    Fight On!

  15. 06mustang says: Dec 19, 2012 10:17 PM

    I live in Oregon. We love the Ducks, but we’re not too stupid to know that the football program and Chippy are slippier than a rainy February day in Eugene. I mean, hey, all of the players are either from Texas or Southern Cal. There is no homegrown players on the Ducks. 11% graduation rate. GO DUCKS!

  16. seabronco says: Dec 19, 2012 10:36 PM

    I am glad those a$$bags are finally going to crumble. I as well as anyone who is not a bandwagon fan know how much of a$$holes every duck fan is in the area. I could not have wished for a better Christmas present.

  17. irishdodger says: Dec 19, 2012 11:13 PM

    Regardless of sanctions, does anyone believe he’s NOT going to the NFL? Sanctions will just hasten his departure. They had a nice run but Stanford showed how to solve their offense. Their O was fun to watch until that Stanford game. When their D gave up all those points & yds to SC, it showed they weren’t quite an NC contender.

  18. kozbee says: Dec 20, 2012 1:02 AM

    Pete and Chip run off to the NFL only in the pac 12 do they get violations and run for the nfl before the $hit hits the fan.I always thought it would be Kiffin but Chip dug his A$$ a hole and cant get out.Without Chip the Ducks will be just another team in the pac,and SC having Kiffin hangin around is just about as worthless as a Duck team with no headcoach.

  19. wphood says: Dec 20, 2012 1:10 AM

    “…There is no homegrown players on the Ducks. 11% graduation rate.”

    Nice try, but wrong…flat-out wrong. 64% graduation rate for the football program, according to numbers released in October of 2012 by the NCAA. Is that a good enough source for you?…/oregon_ducks_graduation_rates.html

    Home-grown players include Keanon Lowe, Colt Lyerla, and 18 others, according to ESPN:…/oregon-ducks

    You may live in Oregon, but I doubt you went to school here – your inability to conduct simple research before spouting off would shame most of our sixth-graders.

  20. 06mustang says: Dec 20, 2012 2:20 AM

    You think 64% graduation rate is a success? GO DUCKS!!

  21. packerbadger says: Dec 20, 2012 8:23 AM

    About time these guys get spanked. Nike Univ….er…Oregon coach cheats by drafting players; wins a big game or two….coach gets caught….coach moves on to NFL and lets his school hang out to dry w/o any ramifications on cheating coach. Where have I seen this before?

  22. millersirish1986 says: Dec 20, 2012 8:24 AM

    Wow just another program and coach doing it the wrong way…go to the nfl chip where you can pay to play just ask carroll…ahhh good day to be a notre dame fan

  23. packerbadger says: Dec 20, 2012 8:24 AM

    Btw, Oregons “education” is similar to SEC’s in that its just a technicality.

  24. rebelnutt says: Dec 20, 2012 8:41 AM

    And USC fans can’t wait for this…why? Because misery loves company. They need someone else to join them in mediocrity! Heck even NON-relevance… The NCAA screwed USC and now Lane and dad did too. Here’s to you USC, seen in 10 yrs or so…

  25. bongloader says: Dec 20, 2012 10:30 AM

    Does anybody doubt that there were shady things happening at Oregon?

    You don’t just go from middle of the road Pac 10 team, to national contenders without getting a little dirt on your hands.

  26. uscatjerseyshore says: Dec 20, 2012 11:14 AM

    @rebelnut. USC’s situation is hardly comparable to that of Oregon’s with regard to the NCAA. In the case of USC the improper benefits consisted of Reggie Bush’s parents getting a deal on a house in San Diego, based on Bush’s potential to bring a big commission to Lloyd Lake, an agent who wanted to represent Bush in the pros. Jilted by Bush and out some $290K, Lake sued Bush to obtain repayment of his bestowed “gifts”. Conveniently Lake “cooperated” with the NCAA investigation with 290,000 reasons to do so. USC’s role? Per the NCAA, Todd McNair, the USC running backs coach, either knew and did not disclose or should have known about the Bush family “relationship” with Lake. Recent developments show the NCAA was “malicious” in its investigation of McNair and documents associated with the investigation and appeal “tend to show ill will or hatred” towards McNair. Understandably the NCAA is attempting to block disclosure of the documents that according to the judge in this case, reveals NCAA’s true intentions.

    By comparison Willie Lyles, a small time football scout, provided “services” as follows
    1. Assisted Lache Seastrunk in signing a letter of intent to play for Oregon against the expressed opposition of Seastrunk’s mother.
    2. Assisted in the transfer of LaMichael James to a high school in Arkansas for his final semester of his senior year to avoid a Texas standardized test required for graduation.
    3. Go between for Marcus Davis to transfer from University of Texas to one of 4 schools – Oregon, Cal, UCLA or Louisville. Eventually signing with Oregon the other 3 schools could not admit Davis due to academic concerns
    4. Orchestrated visits for multiple recruits later signed by Oregon traveling with the prospects
    NCAA bylaw 13.02.14 defines a representative of athletic interests as someone “who is known [or who should have been known] by a member of the institution’s executive or athletics administration to be assisting or to have been requested [by the athletics department staff] to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes.”

    While universities pay high-end scouting services for information on prospects, Oregon never asked for Lyles to provide any information until it was learned that there was an investigation. Rather it can be readily assumed that the $25,000 paid to Lyles was for his “influence” in getting these athletes to join the Oregon football program. This is what will be investigated by the NCAA infractions committee however it is telling that a summary judgement (i.e. a plea bargin) could not be worked out. “Influence” by someone who is supposed to be a fan or source of informaion and not a member of the Oregon staff is in violation of NCAA bylaws, and given the amount of communication that occurred between Kelly, his staff and Lyles, it is certainly appears that Oregon was in violation of a few NCAA rules to obtain players for their program.

  27. iamjimmyjack says: Dec 20, 2012 1:13 PM

    Watch Kelly bail on the program now. Oregon’s run has officially come to an end folks… It was fun while it lasted I guess.

  28. cosanostra71 says: Dec 20, 2012 3:27 PM

    Not surprising.

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