Comments on: Report: NCAA infractions hearing looming for Ducks

By: cosanostra71

cosanostra71 — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:27:59 +0000

Not surprising.

By: iamjimmyjack

iamjimmyjack — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:13:50 +0000

Watch Kelly bail on the program now. Oregon’s run has officially come to an end folks… It was fun while it lasted I guess.

By: uscatjerseyshore

uscatjerseyshore — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:14:23 +0000

@rebelnut. USC’s situation is hardly comparable to that of Oregon’s with regard to the NCAA. In the case of USC the improper benefits consisted of Reggie Bush’s parents getting a deal on a house in San Diego, based on Bush’s potential to bring a big commission to Lloyd Lake, an agent who wanted to represent Bush in the pros. Jilted by Bush and out some $290K, Lake sued Bush to obtain repayment of his bestowed “gifts”. Conveniently Lake “cooperated” with the NCAA investigation with 290,000 reasons to do so. USC’s role? Per the NCAA, Todd McNair, the USC running backs coach, either knew and did not disclose or should have known about the Bush family “relationship” with Lake. Recent developments show the NCAA was “malicious” in its investigation of McNair and documents associated with the investigation and appeal “tend to show ill will or hatred” towards McNair. Understandably the NCAA is attempting to block disclosure of the documents that according to the judge in this case, reveals NCAA’s true intentions.

By comparison Willie Lyles, a small time football scout, provided “services” as follows
1. Assisted Lache Seastrunk in signing a letter of intent to play for Oregon against the expressed opposition of Seastrunk’s mother.
2. Assisted in the transfer of LaMichael James to a high school in Arkansas for his final semester of his senior year to avoid a Texas standardized test required for graduation.
3. Go between for Marcus Davis to transfer from University of Texas to one of 4 schools – Oregon, Cal, UCLA or Louisville. Eventually signing with Oregon the other 3 schools could not admit Davis due to academic concerns
4. Orchestrated visits for multiple recruits later signed by Oregon traveling with the prospects
NCAA bylaw 13.02.14 defines a representative of athletic interests as someone “who is known [or who should have been known] by a member of the institution’s executive or athletics administration to be assisting or to have been requested [by the athletics department staff] to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes.”

While universities pay high-end scouting services for information on prospects, Oregon never asked for Lyles to provide any information until it was learned that there was an investigation. Rather it can be readily assumed that the $25,000 paid to Lyles was for his “influence” in getting these athletes to join the Oregon football program. This is what will be investigated by the NCAA infractions committee however it is telling that a summary judgement (i.e. a plea bargin) could not be worked out. “Influence” by someone who is supposed to be a fan or source of informaion and not a member of the Oregon staff is in violation of NCAA bylaws, and given the amount of communication that occurred between Kelly, his staff and Lyles, it is certainly appears that Oregon was in violation of a few NCAA rules to obtain players for their program.

By: bongloader

bongloader — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:30:48 +0000

Does anybody doubt that there were shady things happening at Oregon?

You don’t just go from middle of the road Pac 10 team, to national contenders without getting a little dirt on your hands.

By: rebelnutt

rebelnutt — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:41:15 +0000

And USC fans can’t wait for this…why? Because misery loves company. They need someone else to join them in mediocrity! Heck even NON-relevance… The NCAA screwed USC and now Lane and dad did too. Here’s to you USC, seen in 10 yrs or so…

By: packerbadger

packerbadger — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:24:30 +0000

Btw, Oregons “education” is similar to SEC’s in that its just a technicality.

By: millersirish1986

millersirish1986 — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:24:28 +0000

Wow just another program and coach doing it the wrong way…go to the nfl chip where you can pay to play just ask carroll…ahhh good day to be a notre dame fan

By: packerbadger

packerbadger — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:23:09 +0000

About time these guys get spanked. Nike Univ….er…Oregon coach cheats by drafting players; wins a big game or two….coach gets caught….coach moves on to NFL and lets his school hang out to dry w/o any ramifications on cheating coach. Where have I seen this before?

By: 06mustang

06mustang — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:20:20 +0000

You think 64% graduation rate is a success? GO DUCKS!!

By: wphood

wphood — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:10:53 +0000

06mustang:
“…There is no homegrown players on the Ducks. 11% graduation rate.”

Nice try, but wrong…flat-out wrong. 64% graduation rate for the football program, according to numbers released in October of 2012 by the NCAA. Is that a good enough source for you?

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/…/oregon_ducks_graduation_rates.html

Home-grown players include Keanon Lowe, Colt Lyerla, and 18 others, according to ESPN:

espn.go.com/college-football/team/roster/_/id/…/oregon-ducks

You may live in Oregon, but I doubt you went to school here – your inability to conduct simple research before spouting off would shame most of our sixth-graders.

By: kozbee

kozbee — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:02:24 +0000

Pete and Chip run off to the NFL only in the pac 12 do they get violations and run for the nfl before the $hit hits the fan.I always thought it would be Kiffin but Chip dug his A$$ a hole and cant get out.Without Chip the Ducks will be just another team in the pac,and SC having Kiffin hangin around is just about as worthless as a Duck team with no headcoach.

By: irishdodger

irishdodger — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:13:12 +0000

Regardless of sanctions, does anyone believe he’s NOT going to the NFL? Sanctions will just hasten his departure. They had a nice run but Stanford showed how to solve their offense. Their O was fun to watch until that Stanford game. When their D gave up all those points & yds to SC, it showed they weren’t quite an NC contender.

By: seabronco

seabronco — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 03:36:23 +0000

I am glad those a$$bags are finally going to crumble. I as well as anyone who is not a bandwagon fan know how much of a$$holes every duck fan is in the area. I could not have wished for a better Christmas present.

By: 06mustang

06mustang — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 03:17:51 +0000

I live in Oregon. We love the Ducks, but we’re not too stupid to know that the football program and Chippy are slippier than a rainy February day in Eugene. I mean, hey, all of the players are either from Texas or Southern Cal. There is no homegrown players on the Ducks. 11% graduation rate. GO DUCKS!

By: deefig

deefig — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:46:47 +0000

Hey U of Oh

Watch Chip walk away from you.

Welcome to mediocrity.

Fight On!

By: tampabayirish

tampabayirish — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:45:11 +0000

Oregon is going to get hit hard on two fronts: Someone in the NFL will give Chip Kelly a shot (and he, like Pete Carroll, knows when to get out of town and stay one step ahead of the posse). And the NCAA has got to hit Oregon hard for the Willie Lyles affair. With USC hurt by scholarship limits (and piss poor coaching) and storm clouds in Eugene, could we see UCLA and or Stanford as the new kings of the Pac-12? Stanford knows who they are in terms of identity and I think UCLA is almost there too. Pac-12 football should be fun to watch for the next several years.

By: manchestermiracle

manchestermiracle — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:16:14 +0000

After listening to Duck fans chortle over the sanctions put on USC, I have little to no sympathy now that it’s their turn.

By: ronin262

ronin262 — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:30:04 +0000

I feel bad for Ducks fans in having to wait to find out the penalties, if any. I wonder if recruiting will take a hit, especially if Kelly leaves for the NFL. Guys like Lyles are the worst parasites around, latching themselves onto high school kids like a football pimp.

By: xtremesportsmaniac

xtremesportsmaniac — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:06:06 +0000

These schools need to learn that according to NCAA rules it is only acceptable to cheat if you are in the SEC.

They have the smoking gun with Oregon and Lyles but they also have dirt on LSU granted is it not as severe.

I live in SEC country and love watching SEC football but it is amazing what those schools are allowed to get away with compared to other conferences. Mike Slive is the most powerful man in college athletics.

By: timh1955

timh1955 — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:40:48 +0000

Whatever happens to UO I am still glad they have been so good the past few years and have shown USC they aren’t the captain of the PAC12 ship anymore. In fact USC is in the middle of the PAC12 at best. I hope UO doesn’t get hit too hard by the NCAA as they seem to be a class school.

By: necr0philia

necr0philia — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:40:03 +0000

And Yahoo does it again! GET A LIFE YOU TRASHY A$$ REPORTERS.

NOT AN OU FAN BUT LIKE TO WATCH THEM PLAY. SORRY TO THERE FANS AS WELL AS THE U.

By: uscatjerseyshore

uscatjerseyshore — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:03:17 +0000

It hard to believe that Uncle Phil and Nike money weren’t able to buy Oregon’s way out of this. He and Nike have built state of the art arenas and palatial training facilities but the university’s general fund needs to pay for continuing support. In the meantime the academic side of the house is left wanting in Phil Knight’s quest to buy a Duck national championship.

The UO football program house of cards is about to fall. A mediocre defense and a gimmick based offense is not going to win a NC. Thomas Tyner is on his way to flip to UCLA and Dontre Wilson will be looking for something closer to his home in Texas.

Sorry Ducks your 10 minutes of fame is up.

By: jimbo75025

jimbo75025 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:37:55 +0000

Crying shame when these coaches (and players also for that matter) pull some shenanigans and then waltz off to NFL paychecks while the programs are left holding the bag. Oh well, it’s never going to stop until the NFL/NCAA get on the same page in terms of carrying over penalties.

By: rolltide510

rolltide510 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:25:21 +0000

YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says:
Dec 19, 2012 6:04 PM
And 2 years later Miami is still floating in the wind.

NCAA is a joke.

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Yeah, they’ve played in some pretty great bowl games the past two years, huh?

By: deadeye

deadeye — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:25:05 +0000

Anyone notice that the college “trick” offenses are finding their way little by little into the NFL? Chip Kelly will get his shot soon.

By: alligatorsnapper

alligatorsnapper — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:22:50 +0000

Willie Lyles gets around, leaving NCAA violations in his wake.

Another coach to leave his team when NCAA penalties are coming down to greener pastures in the NFL? Where have I heard that before?

I don’t wish this on the good Duck fans I know. Great fans, even in losing to LSU and being dominated on the line and even in speed. I would attend a game with any of these Duck fans I know anytime. Classy folks. I am sorry for them as to what appears will happen in Spring 2013. Anxiety filled time between now and then for the many Duck fans and the Oregon AD and football department. Good Duck fans–Have a great Christmas with your families and friends and just forget about all this mess until it happens. No need to be uptight about it all. Enjoy Christmas and the new year and it all will happen later.

By: burgandy2260

burgandy2260 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:20:06 +0000

I still have no idea what team would want Kelly in the NFL? His offense is made for young kids who are barely out of their teens. It’s not made for a professional team. The hurry up offense is a strategy in the big leagues not a concrete game plan and veteran players are not going to be very receptive. Kelly had his shot last year and he declined the Bucs job. Who would want him now? Knowing my luck, my beloved BEARS will hire him and I’ll be miserable for another 10 years.

By: YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou

YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 23:04:24 +0000

And 2 years later Miami is still floating in the wind.

NCAA is a joke.