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One BCS formula still has Notre Dame ranked No. 1

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Looks like someone wasn’t watching the BCS championship Monday night. Or, computing numbers correctly. Either one.

ESPN’s BCS guru Brad Edwards shared an interesting piece of information Thursday morning via his Twitter account, noting that one BCS computer kept Notre Dame at No.1 despite a 42-14 beatdown by Alabama.

“Just checked final computer rankings and found this interesting item: Colley Matrix still has Notre Dame ranked No. 1,” Edwards tweeted. “It just underscores the flaw of rating teams without using margin of victory. One more year of this system, folks.”

Here’s the website for the Colley Matrix, one of six computer polls used by the BCS. As you can see, the Irish have an overall rating of .973997 with Alabama recording a .961139. Notre Dame has been ranked as the No. 1 team consistently in that poll since Week 9. The Tide dropped from No. 2 to No. 4 in the Colley Matrix after a loss to Texas A&M and never got higher than that spot until this week.

Not that it matters — there are no end-of-year BCS rankings and there’s certainly no disputing Alabama as the best team in the country — but it’s another headscratcher for the BCS.

2014 can’t get here fast enough. Then we’ll get to complain about the selection committee.

(Hat tip: al.com)

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77 Responses to “One BCS formula still has Notre Dame ranked No. 1”
  1. kattykathy says: Jan 10, 2013 7:41 PM

    That’s because this one particular computer formula takes into account that Notre Dame is not a paid professional team, like Bama is.

    Alabama may very well be the best college team in the country. But they aren’t the best AMATEUR team…………………….they are the best team money can buy.

  2. idolized1 says: Jan 10, 2013 7:46 PM

    That’s because this one particular computer formula takes into account that Notre Dame is not a paid professional team, like Bama is.

    Alabama may very well be the best college team in the country. But they aren’t the best AMATEUR team…………………….they are the best team money can buy.

    —————————————

    First it was “Notre Dame is the best team in the nation and we’re going to prove it against Alabama!”

    Then it was “OMG THE REFS ARE TAKING OUR TITLE HOPES AWAY!”

    and now apparently Alabama is finding non-amateur players (which would imply they’re what, professionals that just came out of nowhere?) and paying them insane amounts of money to beat up on these poor, innocent, true to the game kids from Indiana, right?

    I love it.

    How ‘s that crow? Good?

    And the grapes?

    Sour enough?

  3. quizguy66 says: Jan 10, 2013 7:48 PM

    #LolBCS

    Congrats to Notre Dame on your Colley Matrix National Championship.

    -QG

  4. jimbo75025 says: Jan 10, 2013 7:58 PM

    Jeez, I am not even an Alabama fan, but let it go. You do not think there are a lot of people out there who would love to see Bama caught up in some scandal? Yet, a scandal never comes to light-only generic statements like, oh Saban is dirty, breaks rules, etc without any real backup. That leaves only two scenarios. One, Alabama is very dirty, but just much better at hiding it or two, Alabama is no dirtier than any other school. My money is on option 2.

  5. leftcoastnative says: Jan 10, 2013 8:07 PM

    What a bunch of whiney, titty babies. ND lost fair and square. Poll ranking as claimed by computers still are computer programs designed by human beings who are flawed; therefore, the polls are flawed based upon the design, the biases and oversights of humans. Take it all with a grain of salt. It’s just a game!!!!!!!!

  6. bamafan36 says: Jan 10, 2013 8:10 PM

    LOL @ kattykathy! Maybe the next time that “amateur team” is forced to play a “professional team” from the SEC, you can beg the BCS to not make them play. Your team sucks! Did you NOT watch them this year? They struggled against Perdue, BYU, Pitt, Stanford, and Michigan!

  7. boondocksaint7 says: Jan 10, 2013 8:10 PM

    BCS sucks! Payoffs!

  8. Irootforaconferencebecausemyregionsucks says: Jan 10, 2013 8:16 PM

    I’m offended by this sedition! Bow down to the greatest marvel of human invention, that which is SEC football!

  9. elwaysmilehighdenver says: Jan 10, 2013 8:25 PM

    Idolized1…………..Best post of the day!
    I have a feeling that domer fans will blame
    BK next week when he jumps to the NFL.
    Face it domers. Your season of “luck” ran out Monday night when your defense forgot to make the trip from south bend!

  10. dadawg77 says: Jan 10, 2013 8:34 PM

    Bondocksaints why i think you meant playoff, your comment does fit college football

  11. canetic says: Jan 10, 2013 8:35 PM

    The Colley Matrix also has Mitt Romney as President, the Patriots over the Giants, and Mike Tyson over Buster Douglas.

  12. WingT says: Jan 10, 2013 8:41 PM

    KattyKathy,
    You may be right about the fact that Alabama spends the most money on their athletes. The only problem with your argument is that the players do not receive the money directly, they receive it through the enormous amount of character building programs that Alabama puts their athletes through.

  13. thefiesty1 says: Jan 10, 2013 8:49 PM

    That just shows how screwed up the BcS really is. Come on 2014, only problem is the idiots in charge of the BcS are knee deep in the new playoff system. Same old, same old with only a four team playoff.

  14. goodfieldnohit says: Jan 10, 2013 8:56 PM

    I was at the grocery store yesterday and I saw Manti Te’o’s face on a milk carton.

    Never in the history of football has such a mediocre team received accolades as undeserved as the Fainting Irish did.

  15. boondocksaint7 says: Jan 10, 2013 8:57 PM

    Dadawg you are correct on both counts. Haha!

  16. necr0philia says: Jan 10, 2013 8:59 PM

    This Team is irrelevant Started showing during Pittsburg game! The people who are responsible for this school having a shot a Title should be arrested in Mexico and never allowed back in America.

  17. necr0philia says: Jan 10, 2013 9:01 PM

    Kathy you sound like a looser. Just face it your team had no reason to be in the game. I’m not a BAMA FAN! PS I love you!

  18. canehouse says: Jan 10, 2013 9:22 PM

    I am not surprised by the ND faithful….Catholics deny every truth at every corner.

  19. kattykathy says: Jan 10, 2013 9:30 PM

    Please folks. Do not mistake my comments regarding Saint Saban or his team of well paid “student athletes” as an indication that I am a fan of the Irish.

    Not a fan of pretentious, holier than thou programs.

    And certainly not a fan of programs that buy titles.

  20. gatorprof says: Jan 10, 2013 9:32 PM

    ND also wins the award of most overrated team in the country in dominant fashion reminiscent of OSU in 2008.

    Manti Teʻo also heads up the most overrated LB since Brian Bosworth.

  21. alligatorsnapper says: Jan 10, 2013 9:35 PM

    A female graduate of Notre Dame and now a reporter with a D.C. newspaper, posted before the game on December 4, 2012 the reasons she would not support her alma mater in the game.

    Made interesting reading about systemic coverups of sexual assault by the administration, police department, and related officials. Interesting reading that you can read “Why I won’t be cheering for old Notre Dame” by Melinda Henneberger, posted online.

  22. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Jan 10, 2013 9:46 PM

    @gatorprof

    By overrated I hope you mean over-ranked. We were not a Championship caliber team. A series of losses the final weekend moved us up in the rankimgs and we backed into the game. No one touted us as great that year.

    Now 2006 you guys killed us, but not because we weren’t a great team, but because u were a better one (& Ginn got hurt & Troy got fat & we waited 60 days to play — but mostly because you were better) :-)

  23. Deb says: Jan 10, 2013 10:04 PM

    Folks, kattykathy isn’t a fan of Notre Dame or any college football program. I’m a Steelers fan; she’s a Ravens fan. She showed up on PFT a few months ago and started harassing me–the only other woman on the Steelers/Ravens threads. When both Steelers and Ravens fans told her to get lost, she disappeared … until I mentioned being a Bama fan. Then she showed up here and started posting snarky comments to me and all this nonsense about Bama buying players. She’s never posted one word about any other aspect of college ball or support for any college team. If I’d said I was a Notre Dame fan, she’d be posting that they buy players.

    She’s a troll who is desperate for attention, nothing more.

  24. Deb says: Jan 10, 2013 10:16 PM

    How embarrassing for the Colley Matrix! Hope those folks won’t be involved in ranking teams as we move into the 2014 playoff era. Like all other real college football fans, I’m looking forward to a playoff system. Unfortunately, we’ll still have to contend with computer models and ranking systems.

  25. crazyfootballfun says: Jan 10, 2013 10:30 PM

    Deb….do you think kattykathy might really be a man who resents women posting on football sites? Just wondering, because she really makes no sense. I suspect Alabama has the same problems all college football teams have , but the fact that they have not been in much trouble ( especially with all their success and the jealousy that brings on) tells me they are running a pretty clean program. Someone would have ratted them out a long time ago otherwise.

  26. ndirishfan1 says: Jan 10, 2013 10:33 PM

    Must be the same formula that calculated FSU ahead of ND after the Irish beat them in 93.

  27. clemsonstillsucks says: Jan 10, 2013 10:42 PM

    Fact of the matter is – Kathy is somewhat correct.

    ND played like amateurs. That games was like watching the worst Pop Warner team play against the state high school champs.

    I have to say, other than hyperbole from people who don’t know what the frack they’re talking about (I’m talking about you kattykathy), incant remember a NC game in recent memory where the vast majority of the fans have agreed on who the outright national champion is as the result of the game.

    Now the method of deciding who those two are – that’s something altogether different. This game was a glaring reminder of the need for a playoff system..something beyond what 2014 holds.

  28. Deb says: Jan 10, 2013 10:45 PM

    @crazyfootballfun …

    That’s a good question. I’ve been posting on these sites for years and the stuff I get from resentful men is usually “Go make me a sandwich” and “I bet you’re fat” LOL

    Bama’s had its share of trouble with infractions like everyone else, and we were slammed with sanctions before Saban was hired. But as another commenter posted yesterday, half of all major college programs have been sanctioned. Saban runs a really tight program, and we have a very efficient compliance officer. The only thing Bama has been in trouble for in recent years was a textbook issue in 2009.

    The editor of the state’s major newspaper is an Auburn grad. If there were anything to find, they’d find it ;)

  29. mrlaloosh says: Jan 10, 2013 11:18 PM

    That computer must be programmed by a bunch of nuns.

  30. barnesaintnoble says: Jan 11, 2013 12:18 AM

    The SEC is a very unethical place in terms of college football. It has very little to do about college and much more about winning and money. But, it’s not cheating, because according to the NCAA, it’s within the rules. Oversigning? Greyshirting? Sabanshirting? (Lol) We expect coaches to have a certain level of moral character which many in the SEC just don’t have.

    So you can sit there and cry about how the SEC is this and that but there really isn’t a point. The college football of the past and of which all the “tradition” we speak of today is dead. That is, unless the NCAA does something, which uh, yea good luck.

  31. mazblast says: Jan 11, 2013 12:29 AM

    I suspect that the Colley Matrix would have Notre Dame #1 if they went 0-12. I’m not saying that the results were fixed, mind you; it’s sheer coincidence that no matter what the input, the output comes out the same.

  32. infrno says: Jan 11, 2013 12:40 AM

    @barnesaintnoble – What college football of the past are you speaking of? Paying players outright (I’m in the minority that firmly believes they should)? I could really go on and on about how smart coaches (Bear Bryant, for starters – and no, I’m not an Alabama fan, I’m an LSU alum that despises that program) have played the system for decades, and the NCAA has attempted to curtail it.

    Oh, and by the way. BY THE WAY, Ohio State and USC are NOT in the SEC.

    Don’t sprain your brain connecting the dots.

  33. draconian1111 says: Jan 11, 2013 1:34 AM

    Notre Lame didn’t even belong in that game.
    I am, however, happy about it because I bet it. Nice to know that you won REAL early!

  34. txnative61 says: Jan 11, 2013 1:44 AM

    Garbage in, garbage out. My criteria: #1 A game ends after the forth quarter, so does a season after a bowl game. #2 Head to head play on the field #3 Season record #4 Margin of victory adjustments #5 Adjustments for critical official error (I adjusted Notre Dame’s record down to 1bowl loss, 1head to head season loss, and Stanford season up to 1 season loss because I saw official error alter the outcome.) My rankings: Alabama, Texas A&M, Georgia, Stanford, Oregon, (Ohio State), Louisville, LSU, Florida, South Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, Boise State, Oklahoma State, Nebraska, (Penn State),Notre Dame, Kansas State, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Washington, Texas, UCLA, Oregon State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Arizona, because were they to play now head to head the higher ranked team would likely win. They are ALL opinions and that’s mine!

  35. thraiderskin says: Jan 11, 2013 2:04 AM

    Under the current system (which is the problem) Notre Dame did deserve to be in the NC. There are reasons why you should always play the actual games instead of letting stats and computers make decisions. Hopefully, we will be treated to a future of great college football under this coming play-off system.
    As for that Kathy lady… why would anyone even respond, you do know what she is trying to do, right?

  36. txnative61 says: Jan 11, 2013 2:17 AM

    Apologies to ACC and Big East teams because I neither see nor read much about them in the West, so I admit bias. Others like TCU, Michigan, Vanderbilt, Arizona State, Baylor, and many others I just didn’t know where they fit or who they might beat. Obviously LSU was a problem with injurys knocking them down after playing Bama tough, but how far? At the top the quality of bowl opponent put Oklahoma>>>Notre Dame>>Oklahoma over A&M>>>Oklahoma (despite their narrow season victory) and established Alabama as the gold standard to rank the other teams they played.

  37. txnative61 says: Jan 11, 2013 2:23 AM

    Uuhhhh—-ALABAMA>>>Notre Dame maybe >>>>!

  38. kattykathy says: Jan 11, 2013 6:24 AM

    Sorry Deb Does The Tide, I am not a Ravens fan.

    I simply got fed up with your obnoxious obsession to post a defense in response to anything and everything negative said about the Steelers or Bama.

    1000 witnesses could say they saw Saban kick a little child, and you would come on here and claim all 1000 were liars and claim that you have spoken with lawyers and prosecutors on the case.

    If hundreds said Big Ben parked in a handicapped spot and had photos of him entering and exiting his vehicle, you would claim that Ravens fans hired an impersonator to do it. And that the lil ol lady follows you everywhere.
    Honey, there ain’t nothing special about washed up, used up groupies. Waiting outside stadiums and hotels for hours to “worship” their idols is not very lady like. I certainly don’t “follow” females like that.
    Don’t hate, don’t be jealous. Appreciate the finer things………..like me.

  39. 35longmiles says: Jan 11, 2013 6:32 AM

    kattykathy = babbling idiot

  40. kattykathy says: Jan 11, 2013 6:46 AM

    If Saban is as smart as everyone thinks he is, then he should make sure his entire defense stays away from certain groupies. It would be a shame if they all had to get STD treatments.

  41. dawhorsefeathers says: Jan 11, 2013 7:07 AM

    Come on, Deb! Don’t think you’re going to get away with shoving that harpy under our tent. She’s obviously a fan of that roster of convicts in Cincinnati.

    RTR!

  42. normtide says: Jan 11, 2013 7:51 AM

    Until computers start writing programs, all programs are as flawed as the humans who write then. Ofc, when computers start writing programs, the machines will be taking over and skynet will be producing T-1000’s. Pick your poison.

    As for the playoff, it will be meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

  43. micklethepickle says: Jan 11, 2013 8:56 AM

    I doubt that many men are upset at a woman closely following football… if anything it is refreshing. However, I’m certain it IS upsetting to see a woman so rabidly defend rape and rapists simply because of the jersey they wear. If you guys could see the apologism Deb displays over in PFT, you’d realize why she’s so despised. She’s the kind of person who’d say that Ted Bundy’s victims were “asking for it”…

  44. omniusprime says: Jan 11, 2013 8:57 AM

    This proves how corrupt the BCS computers are. As the saying goes, “garbage in garbage out” and the BCS computers have been giving us nothing but garbage ever since they’ve been implemented.

    Give us a real 8 team national championship tournament, not just 4 teams.

  45. 8to80texansblog says: Jan 11, 2013 9:58 AM

    I am surprised ND is rated higher than A&M even… Look at their two common opponents.

    Alabama and Oklahoma

    A&M beat Bama on the road while ND got embarrased on a neutral field.

    A&M beat Oklahoma more convincingly and by a larger margin on a neutral field while ND won on the road.

    After the thorough trouncing Notre Dame took, I have no doubt they wouldn’t win 11 games in the SEC and I’m almost positive they would put 30+ on that ND defense.

    ND should be no higher than 7 or 8.

  46. psl1196 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:13 AM

    @gatorprof- that’s funny. Did Notre Dame get beat by Bama or Louisville? The team that got crushed by Louisville seems like the strongest candidate for more overrated. How bout them gators?

  47. Deb says: Jan 11, 2013 10:41 AM

    @dawhorsefeathers …

    Apologies to the Ravens!!!! I at least gave kattykathy credit for being an actual pro fan when she showed up bashing me on a Steelers thread under the guise of supporting Baltimore. Now I discover it was never about football on either board. It was all about me. How very … creepy!

  48. clemsonstillsucks says: Jan 11, 2013 10:47 AM

    @psl

    Louisville’s formula for FL was obvious all year. One week their offense shows up, the next they don’t. Their consistency was in their defense, but even it had holes and Charlie Strong had both inside knowledge and a season’s worth of film to study and plan his offense around. Florida is a great team, but the minute it became an offensive battle that game was over. It didn’t hurt that Louisville’s quarterback is somewhat of a stud either.

  49. 8to80texansblog says: Jan 11, 2013 10:48 AM

    ndirishfan1 says:
    Jan 10, 2013 10:33 PM
    Must be the same formula that calculated FSU ahead of ND after the Irish beat them in 93.
    —————————————

    To me that’s simple logic… FSU lost to #1 ND in South Bend that year and then ND lost to unranked BC at home.

    Both were 11-1 I believe after their bowls.

    FSU lost to one of the best teams in the country on the road
    and ND lost to an unranked team at home.
    FSU then went on to beat a very good #2 Nebraska team in the Fiesta Bowl. (After that Nebraska went on to win 3 of the next 4 titles)

    I’m no FSU fan but I remember that year.

  50. Romulus says: Jan 11, 2013 10:48 AM

    Its payback for Alabama claiming a championship when Notre Dame beat them in the title game. 77 i think

  51. Deb says: Jan 11, 2013 10:50 AM

    @micklethepickle …

    If you actually read my PFT posts you’d know that …

    a) I’m a rape survivor myself, so I don’t defend rape and rapists, and

    b) I’m one of Ben Roethlisberger’s biggest critics.

    But just as you can’t be an apologist for someone just because of the jersey he wears, you can’t condemn someone without evidence because of the jersey he wears. Because of my own history, of course I spent a great deal of time researching the Roethlisberger case. Since I write and research for a living, I was well equipped to do that. It was an added benefit that my brother is a criminal defense attorney who had a contact on the Georgia case that was able to speak after the case was closed.

    Whether you or some harpie who posts on a blog for the sole purpose of making sexually degrading comments to me believe that, I don’t care. It’s public record that the woman in the first case texted friends she couldn’t wait to see Roethlisberger again. It’s public record that the medical record of the woman in the second showed she’d had sex with no one in that time period.

    Whatever annoyance you two brain trusts feel at me defending an innocent man is nothing compared to the anger a real rape victim feels over women making false accusations for profit. But you wouldn’t know anything about that.

  52. Deb says: Jan 11, 2013 10:56 AM

    @Romulus …

    Alabama never claimed a championship that Notre Dame won. Notre Dame defeated Alabama in the title game in 1973 24-23 on a last-second pass.

    In 1966, Alabama was the reigning champion, still undefeated and untied, but the AP refused to award Alabama the title because of segregation. Instead they awarded the title to Notre Dame even though Ara Parseghian had deliberately played to a tie against Michigan State when both those teams were undefeated. He knew the title was in his pocket either way. If the AP wanted to make a political statement, they could at least have awarded the title to Michigan State, whose team tried desperately to play for the win.

  53. 8to80texansblog says: Jan 11, 2013 10:57 AM

    Deb drops the mic and walks off the and walks off the stage.

  54. Deb says: Jan 11, 2013 11:43 AM

    BTW, micklethepickle, if either you or the harpy really read my posts here or on PFT, you’d know I’ve defended players on even my biggest rival teams who’ve been falsely accused or when fans have rushed to judgment without giving them a fair hearing. Of course I defend my teams–as all fans do–but I’m also a great believer in fairness. And while you may believe I am “so despised,” many commenters on PFT have posted otherwise.

    But thanks for your “objective” analysis.

  55. hor2012 says: Jan 11, 2013 12:38 PM

    One more year of this sillyness and then we get to settle it they way it should be, on the field

  56. olskool711 says: Jan 11, 2013 1:07 PM

    As I have told you for years, there is no way to improve the current system.

    Sincerely,
    Bill Hancock

    The above statement is endorsed by every stripper, hooker, bartender, and caddie in every bcs city.

  57. olskool711 says: Jan 11, 2013 1:12 PM

    Jim Delaney and E. Gordon Gee would like to know what’s wrong with the Colley Matrix’s computations? Sounds good to them.

    Wait, Notre Dame has turned their nose to the big tin and gone to the ACC?

    Update: Jim Delaney and E. Gordon Gee thinks the system needs to change. As long as they can have behind the scenes control.

  58. normtide says: Jan 11, 2013 1:13 PM

    Hor2- we said the said the same thing the year before the bcs started. It won’t change so much, still going to be teams left out. There are way to many fbs teams. And they are adding more.

  59. amosalanzostagg says: Jan 11, 2013 1:44 PM

    kattykathy,

    No ND just has an alleged rapist on the team, Prince Shembo. Katty, how does a well heeled Chicago plaintiff attorney who just happens to be an ND alum get access to privileged university police information on a supposedly internal University investigation and ends up representing Prince pro bono? Can you say Quid pro quo?

    Explain to the board how President Jenkins will not meet with the Seeberger family on advise of ND’s legal counsel?

    Notre Dame isn’t lily white and as pure as you think they are.

  60. amosalanzostagg says: Jan 11, 2013 1:58 PM

    Irootforaconferencebecausemyregionsucks wrote: Jan 10, 2013 8:16 PM

    I’m offended by this sedition! Bow down to the greatest marvel of human invention, that which is SEC football!
    _____________________________

    Ahem, This evidently from an ND supporter who lives and dies on “ancient” National Championships. When was ND’s last National Championship in football? 25 years ago?

    Just some actual facts regarding the SEC for the last seven years. The SEC is the best conference in bowl games, period.

    The SEC has earned the benefit of the doubt due to its dominance in bowl games. Teams from the SEC have compiled a 17-8 record in BCS games, and are 41-21 in bowls over the last seven seasons. That is why the SEC is proud of it’s conference teams.

    What is ND’s bowl history since it’s last National Championship?

    0-4

    and if ND wants to think of itself of having and SEC defense and SEC running game, why not
    schedule some big boy games with LSU, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia or Texas A&M AWAY from South Bend?

    Answer, ND lives in the past. They have to play the likes of Purdue, Pittsburgh, Navy in order to pad their schedule. They’re afraid to play the big boys away from South Bend. Don’t think so? Then upgrade your schedule to play CURRENT powers, not programs living in the past.

  61. amosalanzostagg says: Jan 11, 2013 2:04 PM

    Deb wrote: Jan 11, 2013 10:56 AM

    @Romulus …

    Alabama never claimed a championship that Notre Dame won. Notre Dame defeated Alabama in the title game in 1973 24-23 on a last-second pass.

    In 1966, Alabama was the reigning champion, still undefeated and untied, but the AP refused to award Alabama the title because of segregation. Instead they awarded the title to Notre Dame even though Ara Parseghian had deliberately played to a tie against Michigan State when both those teams were undefeated. He knew the title was in his pocket either way. If the AP wanted to make a political statement, they could at least have awarded the title to Michigan State, whose team tried desperately to play for the win.
    ________

    Deb, thank you for using a rubber hose, It hardly left any marks and the pain will be
    felt for a long time.

  62. amosalanzostagg says: Jan 11, 2013 2:08 PM

    Kattykathy,

    Are you Ukeone?

  63. sinnermike says: Jan 11, 2013 2:33 PM

    Somebody needs to look closely at their formula. If it allows a team to get spanked and remain as #1 there are some problems or weakness in the formula that is biased. It would be nice to see where the bias lies.

  64. amosalanzostagg says: Jan 11, 2013 3:34 PM

    Kattykathy, you are ukeone!

  65. clemsonstillsucks says: Jan 11, 2013 11:03 PM

    @ amos

    You may be on to something. Seems like they’re both waiting for the spaceship behind the comet.

    /thankyouI’llbehereallweek

  66. 11thstreetmafia says: Jan 12, 2013 3:48 AM

    This is precisely how Alabama claims all of their national championships, seriously. If you look back, a sports information director in the early 80’s went back and found years where one rogue organization claimed a no. 1 spot for them and claimed all 5 of those. Look it up.

  67. fcmlefty1 says: Jan 12, 2013 5:12 PM

    Not a complete surprise to me, though I obviously dont agree. Just look at the black and white for a minute though: Both ended up with one loss. Alabama has three absolute jokes out of their 4 out of conference games, while ND played 12 BCS conference teams + Navy. Notre Dame played 9 teams that went to Bowl games, and a 10th that would have gone if not ineligible. Bama played 7. I can see how this would happen in the computers.

  68. bamafan36 says: Jan 12, 2013 6:21 PM

    When the head to head matchup took lace in Miami, the fbs vs fcs argument, went out the window! Alabama THRASHED them. By the way, those little schools that we play, get approximately a million dollars from us, to help build their program. You call it cupcake…..we call it charity. Look at Georgia State, as an example. Just three years into their football history, they are now joining a conference (the money made playing Bama AND ONLY PKAYING BAMA, has allowed this). Of the 9 teams (was actually 7) that ND played this year, how many of those that went to a bowl, won their bowl?

    ND sucks, and that it the rest of the story! By the way, shouldn’t you be in South Bend, trying to keep Brian Kelly?

  69. amosalanzostagg says: Jan 12, 2013 6:31 PM

    clemsonstillsucks wrote: Jan 11, 2013 11:03 PM

    @ amos

    You may be on to something. Seems like they’re both waiting for the spaceship behind the comet.

    /thankyouI’llbehereallweek

    Two shows nightly, 9pm and Midnight.

    Remember to tip your waitress, two drink minimum.

    Try the veal.

  70. amosalanzostagg says: Jan 12, 2013 6:50 PM

    fcmlefty1 wrote: Jan 12, 2013 5:12 PM

    Not a complete surprise to me, though I obviously dont agree. Just look at the black and white for a minute though: Both ended up with one loss. Alabama has three absolute jokes out of their 4 out of conference games, while ND played 12 BCS conference teams + Navy. Notre Dame played 9 teams that went to Bowl games, and a 10th that would have gone if not ineligible. Bama played 7. I can see how this would happen in the computers.
    ———-
    Big fricking whoop. How many of those bowl teams were ranked? Pitt? Navy? Way too many bowl games. 64 teams in 32 bowl games and that is the standard you evaluate ND success?

    Alabama was 3-1 against top ten teams
    ND was 1-1 against top ten teams

    Alabama was 5-1 against top thirty teams
    ND was 4-1 against top thirty teams

    Alabama had a strength of schedule 19th
    ND had a strength of schedule 21st

    Note: A&M was 1-2 versus top ten, 3-2 versus top 30 and SoS was 6th. A&M could be a sleeping giant in their new conference.

    Until ND decides to play a real big boy schedule against relevant, current powers, they’ll
    still try to wake up the chos.

  71. clemsonstillsucks says: Jan 12, 2013 11:53 PM

    @ Amos

    Well – with ND courageously agreeing to take on 5 ACC teams (I doubt Florida State, Clemson, or Georgia Tech will be one of them) they may improve their strength of schedule from “weak” to “mediocre”.

  72. amosalanzostagg says: Jan 13, 2013 8:48 PM

    clemsonstillsucks says: Jan 12, 2013 11:53 PM

    @ Amos

    Well – with ND courageously agreeing to take on 5 ACC teams (I doubt Florida State, Clemson, or Georgia Tech will be one of them) they may improve their strength of schedule from “weak” to “mediocre”.

    Duke, Waked Forest, North Carolina, Virginia and Miami (since the will be on probation).

    That way, nicky nick can pound his chest and say that ND plays “real” schools since the emphasize academics.

    Never mind that Alabama had a 77% graduation rate.

  73. bamafan36 says: Jan 14, 2013 6:20 AM

    77% graduation rate, with another 20% leaving early, for the professional draft. That is a VERY important statistic, that “higher education” schools, tend to forget!

  74. amosalanzostagg says: Jan 15, 2013 10:06 AM

    bamafan36,

    How right you are! Leaving early or a transfer to another school directly impacts the 6 year rolling average on graduation rates. Most NFL athletes are on a academic progress path to a degree while in school, but that is put to the side should the athlete be playing pro ball. It may take an athlete that is not active in going beyond college ball (ie, Notre Dame) to complete their education in 5 years (6 if you’re Notre Dame because of remedial reading, color recognition, simple word structure and counting to 100….. cue the ND supporters in 4, 3, 2, 1.)

    42-14 Bama over ND

    RTR

  75. bamafan36 says: Jan 15, 2013 2:14 PM

    LOL!

    When was the last Rodes Scholar Finalist enrolled at Notre Dame, while playing football? How many of their football players graduate with two degrees?

  76. fuzzebear says: Jan 15, 2013 2:50 PM

    kattykathy says:
    Jan 10, 2013 7:41 PM
    That’s because this one particular computer formula takes into account that Notre Dame is not a paid professional team, like Bama is.

    Alabama may very well be the best college team in the country. But they aren’t the best AMATEUR team…………………….they are the best team money can buy.

    ___________________________________

    WOW!! Sour grapes from the Irish fans…Before the game it was “we played as good of a schedule as Bama” and now this hilarious bull baby crap. Maybe Notre Dame should play in Division II football if the fans really feel that way. They’d fit right in as they play a Division II schedule every year anyway.

  77. normtide says: Jan 15, 2013 4:19 PM

    She isn’t an ND fan, just anti Bama. You Get those types when you win a lot.

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