Comments on: Mack Brown: Jordan Hicks, Case McCoy have been reinstated to team http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/ CollegeFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Fri, 24 May 2013 06:31:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: responsiblemen http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-122076 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:12:55 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-122076 Absolutely! Innocent until proven guilty. I don’t know if a rape occured in this case. But the same needs to be extended to the girl. If people say she is lying then that is assuming she’s guilty of a crime ad well. Outside of all that, there is the court of public opinion. For example, OJ was found not guilty of murder, but I don’t know too manypeople that actually believe he’s innocent.

]]> By: jimbo75025 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121999 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:35:10 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121999 responsiblemen says:
Jan 14, 2013 9:16 AM
… but we owe it to all of the people that have been raped to assume that these cases are more than just regretted sex. In these cases, rape is far and away the norm.
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While I agree that sympathy is due to actual victims, I would never assume that just because someone cried rape or sexual assault that it was automatically true. That pesky innocent until proven guilty thing and all…..

]]> By: florida727 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121986 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:12:49 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121986 Rape is obviously nothing to joke about. But I have to admit, the ironic thought ran through my head when the article said they were involved in a “sexual assault” investigation… and Hicks had a groin injury all season.

Sorry. I know that’s demented, but heck, at least I’m being honest.

]]> By: sportsguygerald http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121985 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:03:27 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121985 Whorn’s legal cadre could make the St Valentine’s Day Massacre look like the murder victim’s fault and that Al Capone was the injured party. It must be nice to be a Whorn and know the worst punishment that you will ever face is when the Slimy Used Car Salesman makes you get up in front of the team, promise it will never happen again, cry, say you’re sorry and promise to be a good little Whorn

]]> By: responsiblemen http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121982 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:16:09 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121982 Also – the Duke case is one that is propped up as the standard rather than the exception. It was a high profile case and it turned out to be a false report, but we owe it to all of the people that have been raped to assume that these cases are more than just regretted sex. In these cases, rape is far and away the norm.

]]> By: responsiblemen http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121980 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:56:36 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121980 @jimbo – according to the law, yes. Then the burden of proof would fall on them. As I mentioned before, rape is hard to prove. Unfortunately, female on male rape is even harder because we have been socialized to believe that men can’t be raped by women – but it happens.

]]> By: bigdinla http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121978 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:01:13 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121978 Wait college kids having drinks and sex = questionable character? Give me a break. The rape laws are written like that to make it easier to convict real rape not to stop normal Saturday night at college. By the woman’s own admission she had 4 or 5 drinks over several hours. This was not a case of taking advantage of a girl that was hammered.

]]> By: zurnvs http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121977 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:52:03 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121977 (a) For the purpose of preventing resistance, the offender substantially impairs the other person’s judgment or control by administering any drug, intoxicant, or controlled substance to the other person surreptitiously or by force, threat of force, or deception.

This is the definition of tape in Ohio. Did these guys get her to drink or was she drinking on her own. I don’t know their intentions, but why do u put yourself in this situation?

]]> By: goodfieldnohit http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121976 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:40:37 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121976 Rape, murder, arson & rape.

]]> By: blitz4848 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121974 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:22:02 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121974 At the least we are talking about questionable
character!

Stunned the two weren’t hit with that almost death penalty most coaches use to intimidate the team:

The obligatory 1st game suspension against
Northwest Southeast School for the blind…….

]]> By: jimbo75025 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121972 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:55:17 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121972 responsiblemen says:
Jan 14, 2013 12:25 AM
By law, a drunk person cannot give consent
False rape reporting is almost non-existent statistically speaking.

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So, if they (the players) were drunk also then? Could they (or at least the one who nailed her while the other one watched) not countercharge with rape on her.

I agree from a statistical standpoint, you may be correct, but lets also not forget the Duke Lacrosse thing just a few years ago.

]]> By: pinchegringo12 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121968 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:33:00 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121968 Responsible nailed it, she said she didn’t remember anything, irresponsible on her part, but that doesn’t excuse their judgment and actions…and with the constant legal issues on the team, they unfortunately are guilty until proven innocent in public eye right now. And this is one of the worst

]]> By: responsiblemen http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121967 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:25:22 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121967 By law, a drunk person cannot give consent. Having sex with someone that is intoxicated is rape according to the law. Drunk hook-ups happen all the time, but they technically qualify as rape. Its not about regretted sex the vast majority of time. False rape reporting is almost non-existent statistically speaking. It is FAR more likely she was raped than not. Also, rape cases are incredibly difficult to get to trial and get a guilty verdict. They may never be found guilty of rape, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It only means it couldn’t be proven. She has nothing to gain from a false rape claim, but the players have everything to lose if found guilty.

]]> By: jimbo75025 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121965 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:02:14 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121965 tttrojan4life says:
Jan 13, 2013 10:34 PM
Raping women is OK if you are a Longhorn! Hook Em!!!!
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Hmm, how exactly do you know this was a rape? From what has been released publicly sounds like a young lady got tipsy, did something of her own accord, then later felt ashamed of it. Maybe kind of sleezy on the players part one watching, etc), but nothing illegal. The fact that there were no charges filed for a few weeks kind of indicates a problem.

]]> By: bigdinla http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121962 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 04:49:02 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121962 Or maybe they didn’t do anything wrong? Not a Texas fan, but man you are some judgemental people.

]]> By: geraldthecat http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121958 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:44:27 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121958 How many people do you have to kill to be permanently kicked off a team in Texas? Six?

]]> By: tttrojan4life http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/mack-brown-jordan-hicks-case-mccoy-have-been-reinstated-to-team/#comment-121956 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:34:07 +0000 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=205046#comment-121956 Raping women is OK if you are a Longhorn! Hook Em!!!!

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