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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, I know that, gamecocker. LOL  But I&#039;m still real ... except when I pixelate ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, I know that, gamecocker. LOL  But I&#8217;m still real &#8230; except when I pixelate &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cometkazie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cometkazie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are all just pixels . . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all just pixels . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: thegamecocker</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thegamecocker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Deb

You do know I&#039;m joshing with ya?   :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Deb</p>
<p>You do know I&#8217;m joshing with ya?   <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 06:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@thegamecocker ...

Yes, I am a real live honest-to-goodness Bama-lovin&#039;, Steelers-lovin&#039; Southern gal! Will admit to flirting a little online, but I have never imagined anyone to be my &quot;boyfriend&quot; unless we were up close and personal. The times may be a-changin&#039;, but a relationship is not something you have with a keyboard. 

Oh ... speaking of it being late. Yes, it is ... which is probably why I just sent a blistering note to PFT that may be the end of me. No one with my wicked typing skills could have an online relationship. In person, I have a soft voice and sweet smile to get me out of trouble ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@thegamecocker &#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, I am a real live honest-to-goodness Bama-lovin&#8217;, Steelers-lovin&#8217; Southern gal! Will admit to flirting a little online, but I have never imagined anyone to be my &#8220;boyfriend&#8221; unless we were up close and personal. The times may be a-changin&#8217;, but a relationship is not something you have with a keyboard. </p>
<p>Oh &#8230; speaking of it being late. Yes, it is &#8230; which is probably why I just sent a blistering note to PFT that may be the end of me. No one with my wicked typing skills could have an online relationship. In person, I have a soft voice and sweet smile to get me out of trouble <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: thegamecocker</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122873</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thegamecocker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Deb

You&#039;re real, right?  I mean you&#039;re not Lannay Kekua are you?   I mean all us guys are establishing this relationship with  you via these blogs so I just want to confirm that you are &quot;The Deb&quot; and that you&#039;re not catfishing with us.  I guess it&#039;s late and I&#039;m just paranoid.   I guess &quot;The Times, They Are A&#039;Changin&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Deb</p>
<p>You&#8217;re real, right?  I mean you&#8217;re not Lannay Kekua are you?   I mean all us guys are establishing this relationship with  you via these blogs so I just want to confirm that you are &#8220;The Deb&#8221; and that you&#8217;re not catfishing with us.  I guess it&#8217;s late and I&#8217;m just paranoid.   I guess &#8220;The Times, They Are A&#8217;Changin&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122847</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is a great song old anti-war song. And since we&#039;re just singing Pete Seeger and being mellow, I&#039;m gonna light a match in tribute to John and Ben for letting us be ourselves ... unlike the asses who censor us on PFT. I can say that here. Can&#039;t say much of anything there with the Brat Patrol on duty. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2ikZZDeogo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great song old anti-war song. And since we&#8217;re just singing Pete Seeger and being mellow, I&#8217;m gonna light a match in tribute to John and Ben for letting us be ourselves &#8230; unlike the asses who censor us on PFT. I can say that here. Can&#8217;t say much of anything there with the Brat Patrol on duty. </p>
<p><span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='635' height='388' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/V2ikZZDeogo?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0'></iframe></span></p>
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		<title>By: cometkazie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cometkazie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And written by Pete Seeger.

The PP&amp;M cover is the one I think of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And written by Pete Seeger.</p>
<p>The PP&amp;M cover is the one I think of.</p>
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		<title>By: thegamecocker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thegamecocker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@FOREVERLSU says:

Where are you Notre Dame fans hiding? Come out come out and defend this loser’s imagination.
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Answer:
From Peter, Paul, &amp; Mary:  Where Have All The Flowers Gone.....

&quot;Gone to graveyards everyone.....Oh when will they ever learn, when will they ever learn.......&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FOREVERLSU says:</p>
<p>Where are you Notre Dame fans hiding? Come out come out and defend this loser’s imagination.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Answer:<br />
From Peter, Paul, &amp; Mary:  Where Have All The Flowers Gone&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8220;Gone to graveyards everyone&#8230;..Oh when will they ever learn, when will they ever learn&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kupski</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122799</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kupski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So ??????????????

Whats this Nutjobs next move ?

Does he commit suicide ?
Hanging, Jumper ? O.D....

Or is he ONE COMPLETE FREAK

and purchases something as a gun, chemicals or explosives of some sort to &quot;punish all the bad people on his campus for being &quot;mean&quot; to him &quot;&quot;&quot; ????????

HE IS A COMPLETE 100% WACK  JOB !

I hope that the University has him tested because hes nuttier than squirrel S%$# !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So ??????????????</p>
<p>Whats this Nutjobs next move ?</p>
<p>Does he commit suicide ?<br />
Hanging, Jumper ? O.D&#8230;.</p>
<p>Or is he ONE COMPLETE FREAK</p>
<p>and purchases something as a gun, chemicals or explosives of some sort to &#8220;punish all the bad people on his campus for being &#8220;mean&#8221; to him &#8220;&#8221;" ????????</p>
<p>HE IS A COMPLETE 100% WACK  JOB !</p>
<p>I hope that the University has him tested because hes nuttier than squirrel S%$# !</p>
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		<title>By: amosalanzostagg</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amosalanzostagg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The  best thing about this is that EVERYONE will now remember the runner up to Johnny Football in the Heisman race decades from now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  best thing about this is that EVERYONE will now remember the runner up to Johnny Football in the Heisman race decades from now.</p>
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		<title>By: amosalanzostagg</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122654</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amosalanzostagg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim&#039;s Neighbor wrote: Jan 16, 2013 11:08 PM

For the people throwing the word “rape” around, know that there was never an accusation of rape. Never. Alleged sexual assault is an entirely different thing. By saying rape, you prove how ignorant you are of that story and how you only see what you want to see.

There are two sides to every story and the answer is usually somewhere in between. That goes with this case and the Lizzy Seeburg case. But if you’re going to use a dead woman’s tragic passing to make a point on an internet board, at least get the details correct.

Okay, Mensa,

Explain to the blog of the rape kit submitted by Elizabeth Seeberger being sequestered by University Police within 24 hours of the event and there has been no
talk of the kit ever since by the University Police. despite requests from the Seeberger family?

Explain to the blog that the initial report by Elizabeth Seeberger to the University Police was submitted within 24 hours, yet University Police wait 9 days to even call
the alleged suspects in for a discussion? Better yet, explain to the blog how Prince
Shembo is lawyered up BEFORE going to the police. The lawyer in question is an 
influential, well heeled plaintiff attorney who happens to be an ND alum who 
is retained on a pro bono basis? Explain to the blog how Shembo&#039;s legal counsel is allowed access to information with specific regards to the investigation by the University Police Department when the University tells the press and family members that the investigation is ongoing and &quot;There are no details available, but will be made available once the investigation is completed.&quot;

Finally, explain to the blog how the County DA declines to bring charges against Prince Shembo because the deceased committed suicide and her rape report is considered hearsay, not a &quot;dying declaration&quot; that could have been used.

Can you say Quid Pro Quo?

Face it, Notre Dame President John Jenkins is great saying that he hasn&#039;t seen the report nor asked questions regarding the Seeberger incident because he &quot;wants to be
an impartial arbiter regarding the final report.&quot; Bottom line is that ND&#039;s in house counsel doesn&#039;t want him any where near the case in order to give him &quot;plausible
deniability&quot; to the question of &quot;what did he know and when did he know it?&quot;.

The press conference yesterday was a huge CYA by the ND AD to protect the brand, nothing more, nothing less.

ND is pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim&#8217;s Neighbor wrote: Jan 16, 2013 11:08 PM</p>
<p>For the people throwing the word “rape” around, know that there was never an accusation of rape. Never. Alleged sexual assault is an entirely different thing. By saying rape, you prove how ignorant you are of that story and how you only see what you want to see.</p>
<p>There are two sides to every story and the answer is usually somewhere in between. That goes with this case and the Lizzy Seeburg case. But if you’re going to use a dead woman’s tragic passing to make a point on an internet board, at least get the details correct.</p>
<p>Okay, Mensa,</p>
<p>Explain to the blog of the rape kit submitted by Elizabeth Seeberger being sequestered by University Police within 24 hours of the event and there has been no<br />
talk of the kit ever since by the University Police. despite requests from the Seeberger family?</p>
<p>Explain to the blog that the initial report by Elizabeth Seeberger to the University Police was submitted within 24 hours, yet University Police wait 9 days to even call<br />
the alleged suspects in for a discussion? Better yet, explain to the blog how Prince<br />
Shembo is lawyered up BEFORE going to the police. The lawyer in question is an<br />
influential, well heeled plaintiff attorney who happens to be an ND alum who<br />
is retained on a pro bono basis? Explain to the blog how Shembo&#8217;s legal counsel is allowed access to information with specific regards to the investigation by the University Police Department when the University tells the press and family members that the investigation is ongoing and &#8220;There are no details available, but will be made available once the investigation is completed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, explain to the blog how the County DA declines to bring charges against Prince Shembo because the deceased committed suicide and her rape report is considered hearsay, not a &#8220;dying declaration&#8221; that could have been used.</p>
<p>Can you say Quid Pro Quo?</p>
<p>Face it, Notre Dame President John Jenkins is great saying that he hasn&#8217;t seen the report nor asked questions regarding the Seeberger incident because he &#8220;wants to be<br />
an impartial arbiter regarding the final report.&#8221; Bottom line is that ND&#8217;s in house counsel doesn&#8217;t want him any where near the case in order to give him &#8220;plausible<br />
deniability&#8221; to the question of &#8220;what did he know and when did he know it?&#8221;.</p>
<p>The press conference yesterday was a huge CYA by the ND AD to protect the brand, nothing more, nothing less.</p>
<p>ND is pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: alligatorsnapper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alligatorsnapper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s see...the media pumped up Notre Dame to a #1 ranking which was imaginary, proven by the butt whipping and annihilation by the Crimson Tide.  

Manti pumped up his imaginary lover and none in the complicitious media which wanted Manti to win a Heisman and Notre Dame to break the hegemony of the SEC on the National Championship did not investigate.  If she had been a blow up doll, she would have had more substance than the Irish team and Manti against Alabama.

This is a laugh and Manti is a sick man.  The news media and NBC especially which has a contract with ND, are complicitious in this deception.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230;the media pumped up Notre Dame to a #1 ranking which was imaginary, proven by the butt whipping and annihilation by the Crimson Tide.  </p>
<p>Manti pumped up his imaginary lover and none in the complicitious media which wanted Manti to win a Heisman and Notre Dame to break the hegemony of the SEC on the National Championship did not investigate.  If she had been a blow up doll, she would have had more substance than the Irish team and Manti against Alabama.</p>
<p>This is a laugh and Manti is a sick man.  The news media and NBC especially which has a contract with ND, are complicitious in this deception.</p>
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		<title>By: cometkazie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cometkazie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[foreverlsu says:
Jan 17, 2013 10:03 AM

(snip)
Where are you Notre Dame fans hiding? Come out come out and defend this loser’s imagination.
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With PapaBush drowning their sorrows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>foreverlsu says:<br />
Jan 17, 2013 10:03 AM</p>
<p>(snip)<br />
Where are you Notre Dame fans hiding? Come out come out and defend this loser’s imagination.<br />
+-+-+<br />
With PapaBush drowning their sorrows.</p>
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		<title>By: thegamecocker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thegamecocker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@gamustangdude

Reminds me of an old adage:

OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN FIRST WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gamustangdude</p>
<p>Reminds me of an old adage:</p>
<p>OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN FIRST WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE.</p>
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		<title>By: gamustangdude</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gamustangdude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ND has no choice now but to ride with the &quot;hoax&quot; hoax.  Of course ND is going to have Teo&#039;s back here.  If this came out that Teo made this story up that would put a major black eye on the univeristy.  Teo, would ultimately be stripped of all awards and accolades.  This would be one of the biggest cover ups in recent years, second to Penn State, some can argue greater than Reggie Bush.  No way ND wants  / hell lets that happen.  

If I were ND investigating, and it did came out that Teo had some knowledge, Teo would be in this all byhimself.  It&#039;s better to save face,  accept the ridicule, and admit Teo&#039;s involvement (if there was any).  Bad news only gets worse over time, not better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ND has no choice now but to ride with the &#8220;hoax&#8221; hoax.  Of course ND is going to have Teo&#8217;s back here.  If this came out that Teo made this story up that would put a major black eye on the univeristy.  Teo, would ultimately be stripped of all awards and accolades.  This would be one of the biggest cover ups in recent years, second to Penn State, some can argue greater than Reggie Bush.  No way ND wants  / hell lets that happen.  </p>
<p>If I were ND investigating, and it did came out that Teo had some knowledge, Teo would be in this all byhimself.  It&#8217;s better to save face,  accept the ridicule, and admit Teo&#8217;s involvement (if there was any).  Bad news only gets worse over time, not better.</p>
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		<title>By: foreverlsu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foreverlsu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anyone file a missing persons report on @irishdodger or the mass of Notre Dame fans talking all of that smack in December about how ND would beat Bama?  Come to think of it, I&#039;ve seen very few ND &quot;fans&quot; since January 7.  Guessing that bandwagon was actually a carriage 
that turned into a pumpkin.

Where are you Notre Dame fans hiding?  Come out come out and defend this loser&#039;s imagination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone file a missing persons report on @irishdodger or the mass of Notre Dame fans talking all of that smack in December about how ND would beat Bama?  Come to think of it, I&#8217;ve seen very few ND &#8220;fans&#8221; since January 7.  Guessing that bandwagon was actually a carriage<br />
that turned into a pumpkin.</p>
<p>Where are you Notre Dame fans hiding?  Come out come out and defend this loser&#8217;s imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: thegamecocker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thegamecocker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@tim&#039;sneighbor

Google &quot;PRINCE SHEMBO RAPE&quot; and I think you will see posters on this are quoting from those links.  At least I used the word &quot;ALLEDGED&quot; in my post.  But if you read many of the articles, it states Prince Shembo had a pattern of violence in high school:
throwing desks, throwing a young HS student against the wall, etc.  

Net/net, ANY KIND OF SEXUAL ASSAULT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tim&#8217;sneighbor</p>
<p>Google &#8220;PRINCE SHEMBO RAPE&#8221; and I think you will see posters on this are quoting from those links.  At least I used the word &#8220;ALLEDGED&#8221; in my post.  But if you read many of the articles, it states Prince Shembo had a pattern of violence in high school:<br />
throwing desks, throwing a young HS student against the wall, etc.  </p>
<p>Net/net, ANY KIND OF SEXUAL ASSAULT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!!</p>
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		<title>By: fordmandalay</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an accomplished liar myself, I can guarantee that Manti and his buddies were behind this from the beginning. They created the story for their own reasons (there are many probable), but they&#039;re dumb jocks and did it poorly, and were found out finally by the lazy reporting community - who should have blown this story months ago if they were competent instead of just &#039;issued statement&#039; repeaters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an accomplished liar myself, I can guarantee that Manti and his buddies were behind this from the beginning. They created the story for their own reasons (there are many probable), but they&#8217;re dumb jocks and did it poorly, and were found out finally by the lazy reporting community &#8211; who should have blown this story months ago if they were competent instead of just &#8216;issued statement&#8217; repeaters.</p>
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		<title>By: mtmk0586</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mtmk0586]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like a nasty trick by some people that are evil!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a nasty trick by some people that are evil!</p>
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		<title>By: codysteeler</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[codysteeler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha good! I love this, i wanna shake the hand of the people who faked the girlfriend, brilliant! Go Blue!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha good! I love this, i wanna shake the hand of the people who faked the girlfriend, brilliant! Go Blue!</p>
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		<title>By: whatchutalkinboutwillis</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122512</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whatchutalkinboutwillis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh. Lifetime couldn&#039;t have written a better script. How long do you reckon it&#039;ll take before some networks makes a movie about all this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. Lifetime couldn&#8217;t have written a better script. How long do you reckon it&#8217;ll take before some networks makes a movie about all this?</p>
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		<title>By: barbeaux</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[barbeaux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol. Helen of Troy was a real person at least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol. Helen of Troy was a real person at least.</p>
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		<title>By: pricecube</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122505</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pricecube]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tim&#039;s Neighbor

&quot;Their AD, Jack Swarbrick, is a former (successful) lawyer who wouldn’t have done what he did today without solid standing.&quot; 

_____________________________________


You realize lawyers are basically hired guns skilled in sophistry right? They are &quot;ethically&quot; obligated to look out for their clients interests right or wrong. If a lawyer knows his client is guilty he still has to defend him... and even lie for him.

Look at means, motive and opportunity. I cannot help but ask cui bono? Who benefits? In this case the adulation, attention etc are the only motive I can see for anyone doing this. That points to Manti.  The alleged perpetrators of the hoax are probably going to turn out to be friends of Manti. We will see I guess... but in this day and age you leave a trail of digital crumbs... If he is behind this he should come clean.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tim&#8217;s Neighbor</p>
<p>&#8220;Their AD, Jack Swarbrick, is a former (successful) lawyer who wouldn’t have done what he did today without solid standing.&#8221; </p>
<p>_____________________________________</p>
<p>You realize lawyers are basically hired guns skilled in sophistry right? They are &#8220;ethically&#8221; obligated to look out for their clients interests right or wrong. If a lawyer knows his client is guilty he still has to defend him&#8230; and even lie for him.</p>
<p>Look at means, motive and opportunity. I cannot help but ask cui bono? Who benefits? In this case the adulation, attention etc are the only motive I can see for anyone doing this. That points to Manti.  The alleged perpetrators of the hoax are probably going to turn out to be friends of Manti. We will see I guess&#8230; but in this day and age you leave a trail of digital crumbs&#8230; If he is behind this he should come clean.</p>
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		<title>By: boobsmcgoo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boobsmcgoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first NFL player to be &quot;outed&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first NFL player to be &#8220;outed&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tim&#039;s Neighbor ...

Yes, I&#039;d agree with you if the imaginary love affair had been going on prior to this season. But while the Deadspin article says he tweeted some references to an LMK prior to the start of the season, he didn&#039;t say anything to the media about this relationship and her car accident and cancer treatment until the season was underway. In those interviews, he said he met her during 2009, etc. But those interviews occurred during the 2012 season. Again, so far nothing has been publicly released to suggest anything relevant actually occurred outside the 2012 season.

But ... as you said, we&#039;ll have to wait and see what kind of documentation Te&#039;o and Notre Dame can produce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tim&#8217;s Neighbor &#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;d agree with you if the imaginary love affair had been going on prior to this season. But while the Deadspin article says he tweeted some references to an LMK prior to the start of the season, he didn&#8217;t say anything to the media about this relationship and her car accident and cancer treatment until the season was underway. In those interviews, he said he met her during 2009, etc. But those interviews occurred during the 2012 season. Again, so far nothing has been publicly released to suggest anything relevant actually occurred outside the 2012 season.</p>
<p>But &#8230; as you said, we&#8217;ll have to wait and see what kind of documentation Te&#8217;o and Notre Dame can produce.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim's Neighbor</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/notre-dame-manti-teo-victim-of-a-hoax/#comment-122499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim's Neighbor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ND hired a team of private investigators.  Their AD, Jack Swarbrick, is a former (successful) lawyer who wouldn&#039;t have done what he did today without solid standing.  

Te&#039;o&#039;s press conference will be interesting to say the least.  Until then, let&#039;s not get all internet tough guy and pretend that men have never before been swayed by beautiful women (Helen of Troy anyone?).  Of course, most of the time people meet those beautiful women, but we&#039;re living in a new day.  How many internet relationships have you heard of?  How many people have been divorced over internet relationships?  These things exist.

That said, even if the facts do favor Te&#039;o, there are still some discrepancies he needs to account for.  

And remember, if he made this girl up as a hoax, it came well before the season started.  Had I told you in August Te&#039;o would be a Heisman candidate and ND would be undefeated in the regular season, you would have accused me of typical ND arrogance.  So making this girl up last year to hoax the world was either the greatest long con involving a ton of moving pieces over a considerable amount of time and we&#039;re all dumb for not catching on or he was the one who was hoaxed by a small group of people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ND hired a team of private investigators.  Their AD, Jack Swarbrick, is a former (successful) lawyer who wouldn&#8217;t have done what he did today without solid standing.  </p>
<p>Te&#8217;o's press conference will be interesting to say the least.  Until then, let&#8217;s not get all internet tough guy and pretend that men have never before been swayed by beautiful women (Helen of Troy anyone?).  Of course, most of the time people meet those beautiful women, but we&#8217;re living in a new day.  How many internet relationships have you heard of?  How many people have been divorced over internet relationships?  These things exist.</p>
<p>That said, even if the facts do favor Te&#8217;o, there are still some discrepancies he needs to account for.  </p>
<p>And remember, if he made this girl up as a hoax, it came well before the season started.  Had I told you in August Te&#8217;o would be a Heisman candidate and ND would be undefeated in the regular season, you would have accused me of typical ND arrogance.  So making this girl up last year to hoax the world was either the greatest long con involving a ton of moving pieces over a considerable amount of time and we&#8217;re all dumb for not catching on or he was the one who was hoaxed by a small group of people.</p>
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		<title>By: kozbee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kozbee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As in the movie Drop dead Fred a kids movie,maybe Teo has Imaginary friends like the kids in the movie did.Only friends that Teo can see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As in the movie Drop dead Fred a kids movie,maybe Teo has Imaginary friends like the kids in the movie did.Only friends that Teo can see.</p>
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		<title>By: mogogo1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mogogo1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I&#039;m not understanding is why ND is blindly backing this absurd hoax excuse rather than keeping a safe distance until more facts become apparent.  Were they in on it?

Manti&#039;s latest version of events doesn&#039;t fly. He never really met her?  What about them supposedly meeting after the Stanford game?  What about his dad saying she&#039;d visited him in Hawaii multiple times?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;m not understanding is why ND is blindly backing this absurd hoax excuse rather than keeping a safe distance until more facts become apparent.  Were they in on it?</p>
<p>Manti&#8217;s latest version of events doesn&#8217;t fly. He never really met her?  What about them supposedly meeting after the Stanford game?  What about his dad saying she&#8217;d visited him in Hawaii multiple times?</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@mazblast ...

Hmmm ... I wonder what Brian Kelly knew ... and when he knew it :cool:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mazblast &#8230;</p>
<p>Hmmm &#8230; I wonder what Brian Kelly knew &#8230; and when he knew it <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mazblast</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mazblast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lasseter, we were all fooled.  Even those of us who loathe Notre Dame. its phony, holier-than-thou attitude, and Lyin&#039; Brian Kelly wanted this kid to succeed after all he&#039;d been through.

It hurts when you believe the best in people and find out it&#039;s all a pack of lies.  It really irks me when the suspicions I&#039;ve dismissed as cynicism are proven true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lasseter, we were all fooled.  Even those of us who loathe Notre Dame. its phony, holier-than-thou attitude, and Lyin&#8217; Brian Kelly wanted this kid to succeed after all he&#8217;d been through.</p>
<p>It hurts when you believe the best in people and find out it&#8217;s all a pack of lies.  It really irks me when the suspicions I&#8217;ve dismissed as cynicism are proven true.</p>
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