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Woman tells OTL that Tuiasosopo admitted to duping Te’o

File photograph of Notre Dame linebacker Te'o speaking during media day for 2013 BCS National Championship NCAA football game in Miami Reuters

It’s been two days since Deadspin published a report stating that Lennay Kekua, the girlfriend of Notre Dame All-American Manti Te’o – the same girlfriend who supposedly passed away last September following a battle with leukemia — was a hoax.

There have been a plethora of questions (and few answers) arising from this bizarre story, but the primary one has been whether Te’o was the victim of the hoax, as Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick stated in a press conference Wednesday night, or in on the hoax. Or, perhaps the truth is somewhere in between.

Either way, a confession of some kind appears to be the only way to begin to set this story straight. Turns out, there may be one.

The man believed to be behind the hoax, behind the identity of Kekua, is 22-year-old Ronaiah Tuiasosopo. On Friday, a woman identifying herself only as a friend of Tuiasosopo told ESPN’s Shelley Smith on “Outside the Lines” that Tuiasosopo confessed in December to duping Te’o. Not only that, but the woman stated Tuiasosopo admitted that Te’o was not his first target.

“He (Ronaiah) told me that Manti was not involved at all, he was a victim. … The girlfriend was a lie, the accident was a lie, the leukemia was a lie,” said the woman. “He was crying, he was literally crying, he’s like ‘I know, I know what I have to do.’

“It’s not only Manti, but he was telling me that it’s a lot of other people they had done this to.”

Two other people — 28-year-old J.R. Vaosa of Torrance, Calif., and 21-year-old Celeste Tuioti-Mariner, 21, of Whittier, Calif. — also told Smith on “OTL” that they had a cousin who fell victim to a similar online hoax, allegedly orchestrated by Tuiasosopo using Kekua’s identity, beginning in 2008.

“When Lennay said she was gonna be at this park one day, we’d go to the park and Ronaiah pops up and then we go to the gym in Orange County where the kids have volleyball tournaments, Ronaiah’s there,” Vaosa said.

Finally, the family convinced Vaosa’s cousin that something wasn’t right and he needed to cut things off not only with Kekua, but Tuiasosopo, whom they were convinced was the real Kekua, Tuioti-Mariner said.

According to the ESPN report, the woman whose photos were portrayed as Kekua has been identified by “Inside Edition” as Diane O’Meara. O’Meara’s attorney told “Inside Edition” that his client’s photos were stolen and used in the hoax. Deadspin reported that the woman whose photos were used was a former classmate of Tuiasosopo.

Vaosa and Tuioti-Mariner also appear to be the same individuals engaging with one another over the past month or so via Twitter regarding the hoax. Additionally, all three testimonies on “OTL” seem to line up with this paragraph from the Deadspin story:

… We spoke with friends and relatives of Ronaiah Tuiasosopo who asserted that Ronaiah was the man behind Lennay. He created Lennay in 2008, one source said, and Te’o wasn’t the first person to have an online “relationship” with her. One mark—who had been “introduced” to Lennay by Tuiasosopo—lasted about a month before family members grew suspicious that Lennay could never be found on the telephone, and that wherever one expected Lennay to be, Ronaiah was there instead. Two sources discounted Ronaiah’s stunt as a prank that only metastasized because of Te’o’s rise to national celebrity this past season.

Deadspin reports that “Te’o and Tuiasosopo definitely know each other,” but exactly how isn’t clear. A supposed friend of Tuiasosopo told Deadspin that he was “’80 percent sure’ that Manti Te’o was ‘in on it,’ and that the two perpetrated Lennay Kekua’s death with publicity in mind.”

However, Te’o’s uncle, Alema Te’o, appeared on The Zone Sports Network Thursday night to speak about the story. During the interview, he called Tuiasosopo a “liar” and noted during one particular interaction that Tuiasosopo began promoting a foundation to raise money for leukemia victims. 

Te’o has not spoken publicly about the hoax outside of a statement issued on Wednesday after the Deadspin story was published and there doesn’t appear to be any sign that he plans to do so in the foreseeable future. The questions Te’o will be asked once he does speak — be it with reporters or representatives from NFL clubs at the upcoming combine — will surely be numerous with explicit inquiries about the timeline of his supposed relationship with Kekua.

Updated 5:30 p.m. ET: The Honolulu Star-Advertiser adds a disturbing and bizarre twist on the Te’o story, reporting that Kekua told Te’o she had to fake her own death to avoid drug dealers. Te’o spoke over the phone with a person he believed to be Kekua on Dec. 6, nearly three months after she reportedly died.

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61 Responses to “Woman tells OTL that Tuiasosopo admitted to duping Te’o”
  1. soobster says: Jan 18, 2013 2:46 PM

    I can’t wait to see the Gameday signs for Notre Dame next season. Also, Te’o is going to have the worst Awareness rating in the history of Madden.

  2. cometkazie says: Jan 18, 2013 2:46 PM

    Stay tuned . . .

    More will be revealed.

  3. trbowman says: Jan 18, 2013 3:02 PM

    Wow, looks like Tui is really willing to fall on the sword for his friend here.

    Do you believe Te’o was duped?

    If so, I’ve got some beautiful ocean front property in Montana to sell ya…..

  4. bangithard says: Jan 18, 2013 3:04 PM

    Does this group of people think that the public is stupid?

    How does he get duped, if he met Lenmay @ 2009 ND vs. Stanford football game?

    How do you dupe someone if you met in person?

    how about the comments of her visits to HI?

    Does this group of people think that the American public cannot READ or watch videos?

    It is well documented that MANTI stated he met her IN PERSON at hte football game in 2009

    What kind of sick person does not go to her FUNERAL? (if he was so in love)

    how much would it cost to get the ‘women’ to claim anything?

    call it like it is America!

  5. kiopta1 says: Jan 18, 2013 3:04 PM

    You were that dumb to buy that property?

  6. strauhal says: Jan 18, 2013 3:07 PM

    I Knew Teo before he was arrested for drunk driving on the way home from the sex change surgery of his girlfriend, who’s name used to be Tuiasosopo but had been changed from Lennay right before the surgery. Tragically, his girlfriend died at the scene from injuries systained and Leukemia simultaneously. Interestingly enough, Lennay and Teo were twin brothers separated at birth and mysteriously fell in love online not knowing they were siblings. They corresponded while Lennay was on the space station while Lennay underwent state of the art space cancer treatment. Little did they know, they were actually conceived in space as both her parents worst top-secret CIA astronauts. However they were not identical twins because their mother had had relations with two astronauts at the same time and so there were two fathers. Unbeknownst to them both the mother was actually a secret Russian CIA covert double agent. More to come.

  7. 8to80texansblog says: Jan 18, 2013 3:21 PM

    ^^^ This is the most interesting story about Notre Dame I’ve heard all year!! Top Secret CIA Astronauts…. go on…

  8. be4bama says: Jan 18, 2013 3:26 PM

    I pity the fool that thinks Te’o wasn’t in on it.

  9. pricecube says: Jan 18, 2013 3:28 PM

    Manti is a liar.

  10. foreverlsu says: Jan 18, 2013 3:32 PM

    Agreed 8to80texansblog!

    Come on ND fans, tell us all about those graduation rates again. Got some geniuses on that football team. Supersmart athletic director too!

    Where oh where is irishdodger?

  11. thefiesty1 says: Jan 18, 2013 3:33 PM

    Ok he’s had his 15 minutes of fame from this “hoax” or better classified as a publicity stunt that has now backfired on him. End of story, everyone move on.

  12. scalpemseminoles says: Jan 18, 2013 3:40 PM

    i think he was the original victim but he found out she was fake and it was tuiasosopo and they decided to let him keep milking it for heisman votes

  13. ibreathefootball says: Jan 18, 2013 3:46 PM

    http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/4F37VvoUqkeSiuK1nRCuhQ/football-fall-05/profile-ronaiah-tuiasosopo.htm

    http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/BH84-0ZexEmOYMsffZQvTA/football-fall-06/profile-roniah-tuiasosopo.htm

    http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/hFsM6qFFSkmCBOB23_F6Zg/football-fall-07/profile-roniaha-tuiasosopo.htm

    Wow, backup QB causing all of this fuss? This guy didnt have an athletic bone in his body, wishes he was his cousins Matt and Zach Tuiasosopo and wanted to feel like he was a somebody. Fact is, dude is a straight up loser that is/was trying to make someone else look bad. Note to Ronaiah, you officially suck!

  14. guinsrule says: Jan 18, 2013 3:48 PM

    What’s worse? Finding out your online girlfriend has died or finding out your online girlfriend was a dude??

  15. stoutfiles says: Jan 18, 2013 3:49 PM

    For all we know this is a woman from the Te’o camp trying to help deflect this away from Te’o. If she can’t even offer up her name, then her story is useless.

    At the very least, Te’o has already been caught lying. He needs to admit he lied and why he lied, or else people will continue to assume the obvious, that he dreamed this up for publicity and/or he is in the closet.

  16. lew24 says: Jan 18, 2013 3:56 PM

    So who was Manti talking to for 4 hours every night on the phone?

  17. indi0228 says: Jan 18, 2013 4:08 PM

    The initial stories in the press were that Teo met this woman after a game and had seen her at other times as well. Then the story changes to he never met her, they only talked by phone or online. So which is it Teo?

    And Teo supposedly spent three years talking with this woman but never pushed to finally meet her? Isn’t that a little strange?

    And when the “love of his life” was in a car accident, he never visited her, when she was fighting leukemia, he never visited her and then he didn’t attend her funeral after she supposedly died….but she was the love of his life???

    There is a lot more to this story that hasn’t come out. I still don’t believe Teo isn’t innocent in all of this.

  18. florida727 says: Jan 18, 2013 4:12 PM

    I’m sure Te’o was duped to some extent and whether or not he was actually “in on it” may never be known. The one timeline reference I can’t get past is the one I read where he (Manti) learned of the hoax on a specific day (December 6th?) and TWO DAYS LATER in an interview he was referencing the deaths of his grandmother AND HIS GIRLFRIEND. So if he knew it was a hoax, why did he continue masking it two days later?

    Then just a week or so ago, ND’s basketball team was on ESPN, and at halftime the announcers interviewed him at their courtside table and again played the “all you’ve gone through” sympathy card, and he’s like, yeah, thanks, I’ve gone through a lot but with the ND family behind me and my teammates, I’ll get through it. (paraphrasing)

    He was STILL playing the hoax. That’s wrong. He’s got a LOT of explaining to do.

  19. udub says: Jan 18, 2013 4:13 PM

    Pretty sure this woman is going to be getting a sizable amount of Manti’s money after the draft.

  20. mogogo1 says: Jan 18, 2013 4:18 PM

    Good friend to be willing to take the fall for all this.

    But Manti is never going to get past saying multiple times that he’d met her face-to-face. And also still talking about her like she was real days after supposedly learning it was a hoax.

    Maybe it started out as a gag, but by the time the car accident and leukemia came up Manti was a willing participant.

  21. crazyfootballfun says: Jan 18, 2013 4:21 PM

    Florida 27 has it spot on. Even IF you accept there was some duping, there clearly were some huge bald faced lies! Both before he allegedly did not know of the hoax and after. He claimed to have met her…remember those warm and soulful eyes, how he gave her his hand and they exchanged numbers? Then after he knew of the so called hoax, he still talked about his dead girlfriend, the one , who , he knew DID NOT exist! No way is Te’o an innocent here, and frankly, money talks…he is getting a big paycheck shortly and wonder if these folks will get a little extra in their stocking!

  22. barbeaux says: Jan 18, 2013 4:28 PM

    Also, it has been revealed that there was a fundraiser in honor of her and Te’o last week, and Notre Dame took part in that fundraiser.

  23. mungman69 says: Jan 18, 2013 4:47 PM

    The more I hear the more confused I become. Just like when Abe Lincoln stated referring to the Civil War: “This don’t make no sense”.

  24. strauhal says: Jan 18, 2013 4:57 PM

    It makes even less sense when we realize that Abraham Lincoln was a vanpire slayer??!! Oh wait…that’s not true either.

  25. thebigcaptain2011 says: Jan 18, 2013 5:00 PM

    The truth doesn’t need to be advised. If his image is important to him and he actually is the victim of a hoax all Te’o needs to do is hold a press conference and tell the truth about what happened. There will be follow up questions and again, if he is telling the truth that won’t be a problem. Then after that you meet your advisors to see who you are going to sue/press charges against for fraud. This isn’t rocket science. All he has done in the three days since this has came out is have one of his handlers write a prepared statement.
    One more thing: Notre Dame stance is that Te’o and his family have known of the hoax since December 6th. That’s over a month to meet with your advisors and get everything straigtened out. He and his family made the decision to ignore this and now they look like idiots/liars. They had their chance to get ahead of this story and clean up this mess. That’s why, more than anything else, people think Te’o is in on this. His refusal to address a matter that affected his life so much, hoax or not, is what makes him look like a liar and not the victim.

  26. crazyfootballfun says: Jan 18, 2013 5:31 PM

    Even if there was an initial hoax, no matter what, big captain, he still talked about her death AFTER he knew she did not exist. And you are so right, if he is telling the truth, it won’t be a problem. That’s the thing about the truth..it doesn’t change. You don’t have to get the story straight or wonder who you told what..the truth simply is. Sadly, it is obvious, that at least on some occasions, Te’o has not spoken the truth in this matter.

  27. Deb says: Jan 18, 2013 6:20 PM

    Yeah … he was an innocent victim just like he told Notre Dame on December 6 … right before he grieved on national television for his make-believe dead girlfriend a couple of days later. And his dad was an innocent victim when he said she’d met him at a game in 2009 and had been visiting him in Hawaii. I guess Notre Dame was an innocent victim when they let CBS go to air with that touching story about the make-believe dead girlfriend the week of the championship game even though they knew December 26 she didn’t exist.

    Many many invisible victims here.

  28. sweepleft44 says: Jan 18, 2013 6:21 PM

    OWN IT Te’o. How can he be a victim of a cruel hoax? He stated he met this girl after a game at Stanford. She went to Hawaii to see family. “I miss them BOTH but I know I will see them BOTH again”. He played this everytime he was interviewed by media. Is it a coincidence that he knew the supposed purp? This whole thing smells of bad cess from South Bend to Hawaii. He played along and is an attention and sympathy grabber. It also resulted to stealing Heisman votes because of sympathy. “C’MON MAN!!!

  29. omniscient48 says: Jan 18, 2013 6:31 PM

    I think his agent, Tom Condom, will set us all straight.

  30. oldcat157 says: Jan 18, 2013 6:53 PM

    It wouldn’t surprise me if that guy is being paid my Manti’s NFL money to be the scape goat. He’ll, pay me a million bucks, ill tell the world I did it. If I was Manti, that’s more than worth it.

  31. thebigcaptain2011 says: Jan 18, 2013 7:05 PM

    I agree with you. Te’o and ND’s story has a million holes. As far as these people who are pointing squarely at Tuiasosopo, put a name on it. If you want to be an anonymous source that means you have something to hide. Tuiasosopo isn’t some drug kingpin that will have you killed for talking. He some punk kid that helped Te’o fool a country…..for a while.

  32. nuggets43 says: Jan 18, 2013 7:38 PM

    Te’o never said he met Kekua. To anyone that says otherwise, I challenge you to prove it. The story of them meeting in 2009 came from Manti’s dad, Brian Te’o. That needs to be explained but Manti never said they met.

    For everyone saying that Manti was in on the hoax and did it to boost his Heisman campaign, are you serious? Twitter contact between Manti and Kekua began in late 2011. Are you suggesting that Manti and some guy he sort of knew conspired to create a person and have her die during the 2012 season to boost his Heisman campaign? I can’t believe that. If this was true, there would likely be something in his past to suggest he’s capable of such manipulation, but his past is filled with evidence to the contrary. I think Te’o really thought he loved this girl. He loved her story, he loved her spirit, and he loved her motivational words about loving God and being humble.

    What Te’o is guilty of is playing her up as his girlfriend when she was actually just an online persona he had an emotional connection with. He should have mentioned that they never met but I believe he was both too embarrassed to say so, and he knew that saying so wouldn’t make his story as heartbreaking or even heartbreaking at all. But the idea that he was in on it is absurd. There’s no actual evidence and no evidence in his character to suggest he was in on it

  33. eidolon21 says: Jan 18, 2013 7:48 PM

    how many millions will ND pay these people to take the fall for Te’o and ND’s try to steal the Heisman

  34. 11thstreetmafia says: Jan 18, 2013 7:50 PM

    What the fuck is goin on right now?

  35. nuggets43 says: Jan 18, 2013 7:52 PM

    For anyone that disagrees with me, please provide me with a plausible explanation of Manti’s involvement

  36. be4bama says: Jan 18, 2013 7:59 PM

    Manti’s dad was in on the hoax but Manti wasn’t. Yeah right. And I actually felt sorry for him when he didn’t win the Heisman.

  37. amosalanzostagg says: Jan 18, 2013 8:48 PM

    ND is all about protecting the brand.

    Student videographer gets killed and football practice still goes on., Feign sorrow, bus the team to the funeral, cry crocodile tears, settle with the family, seal the records.

    Liz Seeberg is allegedly raped by Prince Shembo. ND police slow walk an investigation, gives a heads up to an influential ND alum who just happens to be a top plaintiff attorney in Chicago who represents Shembo pro bono BEFORE the police even interview the suspects 9 days after the alleged assault. Never mind the threats of intimidation from the suspect’s
    friends telling Liz Seeberg “Don’t mess with ND football!”

    Think about it, the AD shed more tears for a fake woman than for Liz Seeberg.

    T’eo is a joke and ND held that news conference to separate from T’eo and protect the brand.

    The Investigators (paid by ND) will manufacture anything to protect the brand. Two people just happen to come forward AFTER the news breaks? Yeah, right. Remember, ND sent investigators to the school attended by Liz Seeberg prior to Saint Mary’s to try to get her friends there to confirm that Liz was suicidal. ND is not to be trusted from President Jenkins (who still hasn’t met with the Seeberg family) on down.

    ND supporters should be up in arms about the Seeberg incident, but will be more excited about National Signing
    Day to see what new dupes and new alleged rapists will being playing for ND next fall.

    Notre Dame is pathetic

  38. killitandeatit says: Jan 18, 2013 8:55 PM

    Yes ,to sum it up, Notre Dame is pathetic. Well said my friend . Nothing to add to an excellent post.

  39. strauhal says: Jan 18, 2013 9:00 PM

    I think many of us are jumping to conclusions based on hearsay. Taking one persons somewhat casual comment about another persons actions can be taken out context so fast you can get whiplash. Even with carefully, scrutinized words, you can say the wrong thing. October 6th?! “You said October 6th!” Raise your hand if you can right now accurately quote what you said or thought from a specific day in early October last year. Not many people can, least of all some guy who gets hit in the head for a living. It would be nice if every time we talked to our wives, everything they said in passing added up with everything else but it doesn’t cause our wives our human. So’s Te’o. And that’s just common sense. By the way, CFT, I don’t appreciate you guys taking my post to the previous Teo story down. Lame.

  40. crazyfootballfun says: Jan 18, 2013 9:15 PM

    what about him talking about her death AFTER he knew she was not a real person? You mean it was not TE’o who said she had warm and soulful eyes, he took her hand….that’s even creepier if it was his dad. Ick.

  41. crazyfootballfun says: Jan 18, 2013 9:18 PM

    Ok, i agree some dates could be mixed up. True. But come on, he talked about her death on at least 2 occasions AFTER he knew she was not a real person…that part is clear.

  42. be4bama says: Jan 18, 2013 9:34 PM

    He spoke of her at the Heisman celebration which was days after he supposedly learned she was a hoax.

  43. kozbee says: Jan 18, 2013 9:41 PM

    Cover-up

  44. insertrandomletters says: Jan 18, 2013 9:46 PM

    This is how I see it:

    Te’o falls for the fake girlfriend. Finds out that his friend was screwing with him. Grandma dies. Someone has the bright idea of “hey, let’s have your fake girlfriend die too so it would be like DOUBLE TRAGEDY.” Milks the living hell out of the story. Crocodile tears, describes the most awesomest person he could imagine.

    Family members now get questioned by the media. Family members note that nobody gives a crap about his dead grandma, and instead want to know about some girl he was supposedly dating who fell over and died. Family members now start saying how awesome fakegirlfriend was and how they met her and blahblahblahfakecry so they bask in the awesomeness of having their faces plastered over the local media, catapulting them into local celebrity status. If they didn’t want their faces all over the media, they wouldn’t have talked to the press and been all “go away, give us privacy” or better yet, “never met the girl.” Anyways, yay, attention! Random strangers are walking up to them and all “OMGSOSAD :(” The fact that people recognize them from the paper/tv makes them feel awesome and cool. Random strangers don’t recognize you on the street unless you’re *famous.*

    Aw shucks, he didn’t get the Heisman, back to daily lives.

    Deadspin article. F***. Red alert, red alert, damage control. NDFD is called to put out a 5 alarm fire.

    Family members are now hiding from the media being all “omg give us privacy, these are tough times!” (they didn’t want privacy when they were grieving a fake dead girlfriend, or grandma for that matter!).

    In the mean time, random people on the internet now want to be internetfamous and being all “So my sister’s ex-boyfriends fiance’s step-brother’s cousin totally met the guy and yeah, he’s a dick” and are making frontpage headlines.

    I love the media machine.

  45. lrg51 says: Jan 18, 2013 10:29 PM

    If anyone thinks Manti is the victim here… Manti could have shut this down BEFORE he stood in from of his teamates and talked about his grandmothers death and girlfriends death. Manti is complicit…

  46. barbeaux says: Jan 18, 2013 10:59 PM

    @nuggets43: http://www.wsbt.com/sports/wsbt-south-bend-tribune-writer-brian-teo-said-manti-his-purported-girlfriend-met-20130117,0,615568.story

    Seems that reporter says he has tapes of manti saying he met her in person.

    Regardless of that, he knew it was a hoax in early December but get perpetuating her existence thereafter even though he knew she didn’t. That’s still quite shameful. Notre Dame did the same as well. That’s also quite shameful.

  47. barbeaux says: Jan 18, 2013 11:01 PM

    http://www.complex.com/sports/2013/01/notre-dame-promoted-fundraiser-in-fake-girlfriends-memory-after-learning-she-didnt-exist

    One would think Notre dame would’ve stayed away.

  48. Deb says: Jan 18, 2013 11:34 PM

    @strauhal …

    You’re not making any sense. Te’o isn’t being forced to remember what he said on a given date. The timeline is being provided by Notre Dame’s Athletic Director, who kept a log of their conversation, and the dates various media reports appeared. The AD logged that Te’o told him he knew the story was a hoax on December 26. But Te’o continued telling the false story to the media during the Heisman ceremony after December 26 and a CBS news story on his “tragedy” appeared the week of the championship game.

    This isn’t rocket science and no one is putting words in his mouth. He kept telling the story about the fake dead girlfriend after telling Notre Dame he’d been hoodwinked. And Notre Dame let him keep telling that story. This is one big university-sanctioned con … and you’d have to be a fool not to see that.

  49. kozbee says: Jan 19, 2013 1:08 AM

    Maybe Lennay is a Blowup Doll that never tells him no..

  50. cometkazie says: Jan 19, 2013 8:41 AM

    Ezra Klein has a short bit on it.

    A Tale of Two Dead Girls and Notre Dame Football

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/01/17/_notre_dame_scandals_why_is_manti_te_o_s_fake_girlfriend_lennay_kekua_more.html?fb_action_ids=10101971929514266&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_ref=sm_fb_like_chunky&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210101971929514266%22%3A353622408079270%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210101971929514266%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%7B%2210101971929514266%22%3A%22sm_fb_like_chunky%22%7D

  51. amosalanzostagg says: Jan 19, 2013 10:30 AM

    Who made T’eo available to the press, written or visual?
    Notre Dame

    Who milked the T’eo story story for all it is worth in a fawning media for a Heisman campaign?

    Notre Dame

    Who held a fund raiser in the fake girlfriend’s name?

    Notre Dame

    Who continued to use the T’eo story all the way up and through the National Championship Football game?

    Notre Dame

    Who held a press conference to distance themselves from T’eo once the feces
    hit the oscillator?

    Notre Dame

    You have to protect the brand

    Don’t think so? Here’s video proof from the Notre Dame Board

  52. strauhal says: Jan 19, 2013 10:57 AM

    @Deb: I am not saying he didn’t lie. I’m saying that he may not know exactly when he knew of what he sort of didnt know about in what he did or did not know and then have a date in time tied to it. If your saying dates don’t jive fine, but there was initially a lot of posts here about the date dec. 6th and posts were stating things like: “you said dec. 6th! You’re lying your lying!” And THAT in itself is absurd.

    If you take different dates after the fact and peice them all together after the fact, I would say you will uncover inaccuracies and inconsistencies, but witness testimony is the most inaccurate evidence in court, so to say he’s guilty in this court of public opinion based on previous words is not fair. That’s what I’m saying. I personally think he has allowed the media and fear to sway his choice of words and in that he is absolutely complicit and even very responsible for his words. Aren’t we all? But I don’t think his intentions are as malicious as many here so easily post about.

    @insertrandomletters: I love your post! It would be so amazing if that’s what actually happened. I’m going on record and saying I don’t think that’s the case. Maybe we will never know.

  53. strauhal says: Jan 19, 2013 11:50 AM

    Sorry, AREN’T as malicious…

  54. Deb says: Jan 19, 2013 5:01 PM

    @stauhal …

    What’s interesting in reading the interview transcript is that Coach Kelly is the one who went public with the tragic girlfriend story–not Te’o. Apparently he didn’t even know the Coach was going public with his story. Then when he went to the coach to tell him something was wrong, Kelly’s response was “she’s dead. That’s how we’re going to go about it. She’s dead.” So it seems he may have kept talking about her as his tragic dead girlfriend after learning otherwise because his coach ordered him to do that.

  55. cometkazie says: Jan 19, 2013 6:40 PM

    Thanks, Deb, for digging this out.

    And so the worm turns .. .

  56. Deb says: Jan 19, 2013 7:05 PM

    @cometkazie …

    Speaking of worms … I am having such a run with the censors on PFT. I posted re this on Florio’s article about the transcripts, but they censored my comment. I rewrote it three times and they censored it every time. I posted a comment on undrafted free agents after yours on the free agent thread, and they censored that, too.

    So … on a recent Crabtree thread, I posted:

    Did you actually want us to comment on this? I’ve been censored so many times I’m beginning to think the submit button is an order to surrender our souls rather than a solicitation for comments.

    Well … somehow that comment got through. And it got at least 50 thumbs up before they copped on and removed it LOL

  57. cometkazie says: Jan 19, 2013 7:40 PM

    The only football blogs I do are this one and PFT. There are others out there, but how important is it, really?

    I am more comfortable with the core group here, the ones that discuss college football and aren’t here to make snide remarks.

    I send in comments that never appear, but if they only posted comments that added to the conversation, there wouldn’t be much.

  58. Deb says: Jan 20, 2013 2:29 PM

    These are my only blogs, too. They’ve replaced my long-ago cigarette breaks. Now when I’m working, instead of leaning back and lighting up, I just pop over to the football blogs and exercise different writing muscles than the ones I use professionally.

    But something must have rolled my way after all my chippy complaints to the home office. I logged on today to discover all my censored posts had reappeared. Well … not all of them. The sarcastic asides to the moderators aren’t there, but all the football posts have been resurrected :)

  59. cometkazie says: Jan 20, 2013 2:42 PM

    Things are looking up, Deb!

    I have more trouble dealing with the gnats and skeeters than the tigers and cobras.

  60. Deb says: Jan 20, 2013 10:48 PM

    What a great way to put that! I’m exactly the same. Have always managed huge life crises so well while losing my mind over minutia.

  61. dylanesq says: Jan 24, 2013 1:40 PM

    Having been the victim of both a real life and an internet relationship hoax (over 20 years ago) I have to ask the following question: ‘Because a person is vulnerable is it right to take advantage of that vulnerability (need/poor self image) , especially when suicide is a possibility ?
    In the first instance I barely scraped through a so called ‘blind date that didn’t show up’ ruse without losing it, especially as it was committed by a very junior employee.
    In the second instance I was shocked by discovering that an online ‘relationship’ was based on the other person’s lies about her age. This just made me mad but it taught me to believe NOTHING from anyone I did not know on the internet and I became even more distrusting, making less of a chance I would be able to open up enough to have a future relationship. These games are committed by very sick people who need to be flushed out into the open to confront the results of their illness.

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