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	<title>Comments on: Louis Freeh responds to Paterno family critique</title>
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		<title>By: eightysixisback</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-126439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eightysixisback]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although i know it won&#039;t make any difference to the people who continue to blame anyone and everyone who has ever gone to school at, worked for or even lived near penn state this sentence from the article above:  
&quot;I stand by our conclusion that four of the most powerful people at Penn State failed to protect against a child sexual predator harming children for over a decade.&quot;  
The four most powerful people at Penn state, not everyone at Penn State.  One person commited the acts and four people covered them up.  Those are the people who should be criticized and punished not everyone else associated with the school.  I am pretty sure that what the NCAA did is not affecting a single one of those five people in any way whatsoever.  That does not make any sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although i know it won&#8217;t make any difference to the people who continue to blame anyone and everyone who has ever gone to school at, worked for or even lived near penn state this sentence from the article above:<br />
&#8220;I stand by our conclusion that four of the most powerful people at Penn State failed to protect against a child sexual predator harming children for over a decade.&#8221;<br />
The four most powerful people at Penn state, not everyone at Penn State.  One person commited the acts and four people covered them up.  Those are the people who should be criticized and punished not everyone else associated with the school.  I am pretty sure that what the NCAA did is not affecting a single one of those five people in any way whatsoever.  That does not make any sense.</p>
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		<title>By: materialman80</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125917</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[materialman80]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as the Paterno family wants to make this better, they can&#039;t. Joe and all the powers that be at Pedophile State are guilty. Any of them could have and should have stopped this. They chose to look the other way. Joe is gone but the rest of the folks at Penn State who did nothing need to join Jerry the Pervert in jail, and sooner rather then later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as the Paterno family wants to make this better, they can&#8217;t. Joe and all the powers that be at Pedophile State are guilty. Any of them could have and should have stopped this. They chose to look the other way. Joe is gone but the rest of the folks at Penn State who did nothing need to join Jerry the Pervert in jail, and sooner rather then later.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bobzilla ...

Since I&#039;m not that important, perhaps you and kattykathy can find somethng more worthwhile to do with your lives than making me your blog mission.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bobzilla &#8230;</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m not that important, perhaps you and kattykathy can find somethng more worthwhile to do with your lives than making me your blog mission.</p>
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		<title>By: ermur22</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ermur22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deb-----Teo is a fucking liar just like Paterno. U believe him your an idiot also!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb&#8212;&#8211;Teo is a fucking liar just like Paterno. U believe him your an idiot also!</p>
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		<title>By: ermur22</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ermur22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Penn St needs to wake the fuck up.......he is GUILTY !! Fact- he protected a sexual predator to better his football team and put countless young men in harms way and he KNEW IT!!! He&#039;s rotting in hell. Deal with it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penn St needs to wake the fuck up&#8230;&#8230;.he is GUILTY !! Fact- he protected a sexual predator to better his football team and put countless young men in harms way and he KNEW IT!!! He&#8217;s rotting in hell. Deal with it</p>
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		<title>By: bobzilla1001</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125746</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobzilla1001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deb:
Please get over yourself.
You simply aren&#039;t that important.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb:<br />
Please get over yourself.<br />
You simply aren&#8217;t that important.</p>
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		<title>By: oldcat157</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125732</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oldcat157]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol, I had almost forgotten about this and was thinking about Bill Obrien and the decent season he had. Thanks for rehashing this. I, again, hate everything Joe Paterno was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, I had almost forgotten about this and was thinking about Bill Obrien and the decent season he had. Thanks for rehashing this. I, again, hate everything Joe Paterno was.</p>
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		<title>By: kozbee</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125729</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kozbee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Throw all in jail involved for 50 years then quit kicking a dead horse and let Penn st move on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throw all in jail involved for 50 years then quit kicking a dead horse and let Penn st move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125722</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bobzilla ...

ROFL ... after all the years you&#039;ve been dogging me on PFT because your fragile ego can&#039;t handle sharing the blogs with a female Steelers fan, it must have been like a dose of Geritol to pop over here and stumble across the ramblings of my stalker. But your momentary giddiness won&#039;t make your bizarre posts on the other side anymore cogent.

And the Notre Dame fans here have seen me post that, in the end, Te&#039;o turned out to be the victim of a terrible hoax. Unlike you guys, I&#039;m not hating on anyone--just commenting on information as it&#039;s released and trying to keep an open mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bobzilla &#8230;</p>
<p>ROFL &#8230; after all the years you&#8217;ve been dogging me on PFT because your fragile ego can&#8217;t handle sharing the blogs with a female Steelers fan, it must have been like a dose of Geritol to pop over here and stumble across the ramblings of my stalker. But your momentary giddiness won&#8217;t make your bizarre posts on the other side anymore cogent.</p>
<p>And the Notre Dame fans here have seen me post that, in the end, Te&#8217;o turned out to be the victim of a terrible hoax. Unlike you guys, I&#8217;m not hating on anyone&#8211;just commenting on information as it&#8217;s released and trying to keep an open mind.</p>
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		<title>By: crappygovernment</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crappygovernment]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PA taxpayers have had $100 Million stolen already for this garbage.  No more money for worthless lawyers and equally worthless non-profits!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PA taxpayers have had $100 Million stolen already for this garbage.  No more money for worthless lawyers and equally worthless non-profits!</p>
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		<title>By: houndofthebaskervols</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125718</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[houndofthebaskervols]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Screw Louis Freeh, he&#039;s a fraud and a liar. This is the man that covered up the FBI&#039;s own complicitness in the Oklahoma City bombing and the Waco murders of 80 men, women, and children. Nothing he has to say bears any weight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw Louis Freeh, he&#8217;s a fraud and a liar. This is the man that covered up the FBI&#8217;s own complicitness in the Oklahoma City bombing and the Waco murders of 80 men, women, and children. Nothing he has to say bears any weight.</p>
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		<title>By: blackdonnelly</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blackdonnelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We can safely state that BOTH reports are flawed in their own ways, but one fact remains undisputed: Coach Paterno knew.

And that&#039;s all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can safely state that BOTH reports are flawed in their own ways, but one fact remains undisputed: Coach Paterno knew.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: tttrojan4life</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125710</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would still not allow my own kids anywhere near that place.  There are people on  that campus that have not been brought to justice for their crimes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would still not allow my own kids anywhere near that place.  There are people on  that campus that have not been brought to justice for their crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: bobzilla1001</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobzilla1001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kattykathy:
Well said!!!
In fact, I&#039;m still laughing...
He also doesn&#039;t care much for Te&#039;o and Notre Dame. Must be a curse, he being so wise and all knowing...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kattykathy:<br />
Well said!!!<br />
In fact, I&#8217;m still laughing&#8230;<br />
He also doesn&#8217;t care much for Te&#8217;o and Notre Dame. Must be a curse, he being so wise and all knowing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: srg608</title>
		<link>http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/louis-freeh-responds-to-paterno-family-critique/#comment-125704</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[srg608]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@powercorrupts2

Nicely Written PC2!!]]></description>
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<p>Nicely Written PC2!!</p>
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		<title>By: powercorrupts2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Louis Freeh had to resign as FBI Director after a Business Week article on &quot;Carnivore&quot;. He left with a history of: the Waco siege cover-up, insubordination to Attorney General Janet Reno, the Robert Hansen mole case, ordering use of FBI sharpshooters at Ruby Ridge which led to the death of Randy Weaver&#039;s wife while she was holding their child in her arms, etc..
The Freeh Report is: (1) an &quot;ex parte&quot; document (not an independent report) that was funded with millions of dollars by parties who have a conflict of interest in the case (Tom Corbett controlled the PSU Board of Trustees and was the PA DA who had jurisdiction over the original complaints against Sandusky but failed to investigate them in a timely fashion); (2) written in a prosecutorial fashion with no apparent concern for innocence; (3) criticizes the actions of people using a hindsight perspective that employs information that none of them knew; (4) does not contain a response by the accused parties (Curley, Spanier, Schultz, Paterno); (5) is written by someone who has a checkered history and may have a biased view of the case.

Tom Corbett, the Pennsylvania Governor, used Freeh to scapegoat Paterno, et al. so that he (Corbett) would not be blamed. He controlled the Penn State Board of Trustees that arranged for the Report and accepted its incredibly biased conclusions (read the Report and you will see that the evidence cited does not support the conclusions). The only real evidence against Paterno was the testimony of McQueary. McQueary was a very unreliable witness (he changed his story many times) and his testimony was directly contradicted by the testimony of Dr. Jonathan Dranov. Dr. Dranov is a very reliable witness, graduated Phi Beta Kappa, attended a prestigious Ivy League medical school, is a Board Certified Internist and Nephrologist, has more than 30 years of experience in questioning patients to get accurate histories and is familiar with the mandatory reporting requirement for child abuse. He interviewed McQueary on the night that McQueary says he saw Sandusky and the child showering together. Dr. Dranov testified that he asked McQueary three times if he had seen anthing of a sexual nature and three times McQueary said no. It can safely be assumed that Dr. Dranov did not report this himself because from his extensive knowledge and experience he didn&#039;t think it crossed the threshold for reporting. So this is what Paterno, a layman, and the others heard. They also had access to a report by the police in 1998 when Sandusky gave a child &quot;a bear hug&quot; and was investigated by a police detective, the PA Department of Public Welfare in Harrisburg, the Centre County DA&#039;s Office, and a CCYS counselor who interviewed the child and wrote a report. The conclusion of the police report was &quot;no sexual assault occurred&quot; and no charges were filed. Since this is all that Paterno and the others knew, what are they guilty of?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis Freeh had to resign as FBI Director after a Business Week article on &#8220;Carnivore&#8221;. He left with a history of: the Waco siege cover-up, insubordination to Attorney General Janet Reno, the Robert Hansen mole case, ordering use of FBI sharpshooters at Ruby Ridge which led to the death of Randy Weaver&#8217;s wife while she was holding their child in her arms, etc..<br />
The Freeh Report is: (1) an &#8220;ex parte&#8221; document (not an independent report) that was funded with millions of dollars by parties who have a conflict of interest in the case (Tom Corbett controlled the PSU Board of Trustees and was the PA DA who had jurisdiction over the original complaints against Sandusky but failed to investigate them in a timely fashion); (2) written in a prosecutorial fashion with no apparent concern for innocence; (3) criticizes the actions of people using a hindsight perspective that employs information that none of them knew; (4) does not contain a response by the accused parties (Curley, Spanier, Schultz, Paterno); (5) is written by someone who has a checkered history and may have a biased view of the case.</p>
<p>Tom Corbett, the Pennsylvania Governor, used Freeh to scapegoat Paterno, et al. so that he (Corbett) would not be blamed. He controlled the Penn State Board of Trustees that arranged for the Report and accepted its incredibly biased conclusions (read the Report and you will see that the evidence cited does not support the conclusions). The only real evidence against Paterno was the testimony of McQueary. McQueary was a very unreliable witness (he changed his story many times) and his testimony was directly contradicted by the testimony of Dr. Jonathan Dranov. Dr. Dranov is a very reliable witness, graduated Phi Beta Kappa, attended a prestigious Ivy League medical school, is a Board Certified Internist and Nephrologist, has more than 30 years of experience in questioning patients to get accurate histories and is familiar with the mandatory reporting requirement for child abuse. He interviewed McQueary on the night that McQueary says he saw Sandusky and the child showering together. Dr. Dranov testified that he asked McQueary three times if he had seen anthing of a sexual nature and three times McQueary said no. It can safely be assumed that Dr. Dranov did not report this himself because from his extensive knowledge and experience he didn&#8217;t think it crossed the threshold for reporting. So this is what Paterno, a layman, and the others heard. They also had access to a report by the police in 1998 when Sandusky gave a child &#8220;a bear hug&#8221; and was investigated by a police detective, the PA Department of Public Welfare in Harrisburg, the Centre County DA&#8217;s Office, and a CCYS counselor who interviewed the child and wrote a report. The conclusion of the police report was &#8220;no sexual assault occurred&#8221; and no charges were filed. Since this is all that Paterno and the others knew, what are they guilty of?</p>
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		<title>By: sparky151</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Grand Jury had subpoena power while Freeh did not. The Grand Jury indicted Curley and Schultz and exonerated Paterno. Why people want to second guess them is beyond me.

 Sandusky was reported as an alleged child molester in 1998. There was an investigation with the DA ultimately deciding not to indict, probably because the state child welfare official who interviewed the alleged victim concluded that no abuse had taken place. I&#039;m not sure why Paterno should be expected to have mind reading powers regarding Sandusky. 

 One of the strange aspects of the case is that no victims have come forward from earlier decades. Usually pedophiles don&#039;t start in middle age but there haven&#039;t been any reported victims before the 90s. Since Sandusky was on staff since the late 60s, Paterno may have been inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 The undisputed evidence is that Paterno took McQuery to see Schultz, the head of the university police dept. Of the PSU administrators, Schultz is the most culpable since it was his department&#039;s role to investigate, not the athletic department&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Grand Jury had subpoena power while Freeh did not. The Grand Jury indicted Curley and Schultz and exonerated Paterno. Why people want to second guess them is beyond me.</p>
<p> Sandusky was reported as an alleged child molester in 1998. There was an investigation with the DA ultimately deciding not to indict, probably because the state child welfare official who interviewed the alleged victim concluded that no abuse had taken place. I&#8217;m not sure why Paterno should be expected to have mind reading powers regarding Sandusky. </p>
<p> One of the strange aspects of the case is that no victims have come forward from earlier decades. Usually pedophiles don&#8217;t start in middle age but there haven&#8217;t been any reported victims before the 90s. Since Sandusky was on staff since the late 60s, Paterno may have been inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p> The undisputed evidence is that Paterno took McQuery to see Schultz, the head of the university police dept. Of the PSU administrators, Schultz is the most culpable since it was his department&#8217;s role to investigate, not the athletic department&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: cometkazie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cometkazie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well put, onceuponwhatever.

A rant?  Hardly.  Mebbe it tired them too much to read it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put, onceuponwhatever.</p>
<p>A rant?  Hardly.  Mebbe it tired them too much to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: joewilliesshnoz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joewilliesshnoz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe Paterno = Scumbag]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Paterno = Scumbag</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much as I always liked Paterno, I&#039;m afraid Freeh is right: Joe&#039;s testimony before the grand jury speaks for itself. tommy57 called it ... the Freeh report may be flawed, but its conclusions are accurate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much as I always liked Paterno, I&#8217;m afraid Freeh is right: Joe&#8217;s testimony before the grand jury speaks for itself. tommy57 called it &#8230; the Freeh report may be flawed, but its conclusions are accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: dkhhuey</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These 2 paragraphs pretty much sum it all up appropriately - rest in hell Paterno:

During the investigation, we contacted Mr. Paterno’s attorney in an attempt to interview Mr. Paterno. Although Mr. Paterno was willing to speak with a news reporter and his biographer at that time, he elected not to speak with us. We also asked Mr. Paterno’s attorney to provide us with any evidence that he and his client felt should be considered. The documents provided were included in our report.
 
 
Mr. Paterno was on notice for at least 13 years that Sandusky, one of his longest serving assistants, and whose office was steps away, was a probable serial pedophile. Mr. Paterno was aware of the criminal 1998 investigation into Sandusky’s suspected child sexual abuse. Indeed, the evidence shows that Mr. Paterno closely followed that case. Later, in 2001, another one of his assistants, Mr. McQueary, directly reported to Mr. Paterno that Sandusky was sexually abusing a young boy in Mr. Paterno’s Penn State football locker room. The evidence shows that Mr. Paterno purposefully ignored this evidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These 2 paragraphs pretty much sum it all up appropriately &#8211; rest in hell Paterno:</p>
<p>During the investigation, we contacted Mr. Paterno’s attorney in an attempt to interview Mr. Paterno. Although Mr. Paterno was willing to speak with a news reporter and his biographer at that time, he elected not to speak with us. We also asked Mr. Paterno’s attorney to provide us with any evidence that he and his client felt should be considered. The documents provided were included in our report.</p>
<p>Mr. Paterno was on notice for at least 13 years that Sandusky, one of his longest serving assistants, and whose office was steps away, was a probable serial pedophile. Mr. Paterno was aware of the criminal 1998 investigation into Sandusky’s suspected child sexual abuse. Indeed, the evidence shows that Mr. Paterno closely followed that case. Later, in 2001, another one of his assistants, Mr. McQueary, directly reported to Mr. Paterno that Sandusky was sexually abusing a young boy in Mr. Paterno’s Penn State football locker room. The evidence shows that Mr. Paterno purposefully ignored this evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: tommy57</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@srg608

Yes, we&#039;re in agreement.  

The vast majority of Joe Paterno&#039;s life was positive and benefitted many whith whom he came in contact.

Still, just as other good people sometimes make mistakes that cause terrible harm to others (drunk drivers come to mind), Joe&#039;s mistake was significant, cannot be ignored, but should not negate the other aspects of his life&#039;s work (as the NCAA did).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@srg608</p>
<p>Yes, we&#8217;re in agreement.  </p>
<p>The vast majority of Joe Paterno&#8217;s life was positive and benefitted many whith whom he came in contact.</p>
<p>Still, just as other good people sometimes make mistakes that cause terrible harm to others (drunk drivers come to mind), Joe&#8217;s mistake was significant, cannot be ignored, but should not negate the other aspects of his life&#8217;s work (as the NCAA did).</p>
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		<title>By: srg608</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@onceuponatimeinsports

Well, you did get one thing right in that rant of yours: 

&quot;Cultists believe what cultists believe and no amount of common sense is going to deter them from their beliefs.&quot;

I don&#039;t think you proved the exact point you had intended, afterall, we often have trouble recognizing in ourselves that which we attribute to others.  

&quot;Do not seek the truth, only cease to cherish your opinions.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@onceuponatimeinsports</p>
<p>Well, you did get one thing right in that rant of yours: </p>
<p>&#8220;Cultists believe what cultists believe and no amount of common sense is going to deter them from their beliefs.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you proved the exact point you had intended, afterall, we often have trouble recognizing in ourselves that which we attribute to others.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Do not seek the truth, only cease to cherish your opinions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: onceuponatimeinsports</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regardless of how you view the Freeh report, there are several facts that Paterno apologists have never adequately answered…

Paterno was aware of the 1998 allegations against Sandusky, no one disputes this. The fact that Sandusky was not charged by the local authorities is irrelevant. Why did Paterno continue to allow Sandusky access to the Penn St campus and more specifically, the football facilities after this? Even if he understood that Sandusky had not been charged, why allow someone who’s had such a serious and vile accusation leveled against him to continue to hang around your student athletes? Paterno ran that team like a field marshal; he could have easily told Sandusky personally that his presence there around the team was no longer welcome.

Yet he didn’t. He continued to allow a man he knew had been accused of molesting a child ON CAMPUS access to his players, access to his facilities and access to his sidelines and coaching booth. 

After 2001 he knew from what McQueary had explained to him that once again, his friend and ex-coach had been seen by an eye witness engaging in some sort of sexual act in the Penn State showers with an underage unidentified boy. Paterno testified that he understood that what McQueary saw was of a “sexual” nature and not mere horseplay or innocent roughhousing. He must have believed what McQueary told him because after thinking it over for more than a day, he went with this information to the AD and VP of the University. He continued to allow McQueary to work with the team and eventually, hired him as an assistant coach. He must have found him convincing or he would never have trusted him enough to actually hire him.

Even if Paterno believed that he done the right thing by leaving it in Schultz and Curley’s hands, why did he never question them as to what they did with this information? There is no evidence in either report that Joe followed up and demanded action from either of them or threatened to go above their heads to Spanier or the outside authorities. Even if you believe that Paterno felt he it wasn’t his job to prosecute Sandusky himself, why the total apathy towards these obviously extremely serious accusations? Why the complete indifference to the victims, the young man Paterno now knew had been molested by Sandusky in his own facility?

Paterno, and his apologists point toward his statement made when the accusations against Sandusky became public that he “In hindsight, I wish I had done more.” as if that alone exonerates or excuses his seeming complete disinterest in seeing some sort of action taken against Sandusky after 2 credible and serious charges had been leveled against him of being a child molester. One that was operating right under his very nose in the very facilities that he had utter and complete control over!!!

Did Paterno forbid him from hanging around the team? No.

Did Paterno ban him from using the teams’ facilities? No.

Did Paterno take away his office that sat just a few feet from his own? No.

Did Paterno ban his coaches from attending events with Sandusky or helping him with his charity? Again….no.

All these actions were well within Paterno’s scope of power at Penn St. Any head football coach at any university in America would have had such power. And we all know Paterno carried an almost Svengali like sway over that entire campus let alone the football facilities and everything that came into contact with it.  

These inactions go waaaaaay beyond a simple and simplistic statement of “I wish I had done more.” To say that’s inadequate is like saying the Pacific Ocean is a large body of water.

Paterno knew, as he clearly believed McQueary, that Sandusky was having sex with underage boys in the Penn State facilities yet took no action to prohibit it. None, Nada, Zilch. How many times in the ensuing dozen years did Joe see Jerry around the campus, around his team, around his facilities, in his locker room, in his showers, with or without little boys or had knowledge that he still access to young boys off campus and he did nothing!

NOTHING!

And we’re supposed to believe that it was all just out of his grasp, that he didn’t truly understand the magnitude of the accusations. That in hindsight, he’d wished he done more, and leave it at that.

PUHLEEZE!!!

Paterno himself made it clear before his death that he understood exactly what McQueary told him, that he clearly understood that Sandusky was molesting underage boys’ right in the Penn State showers. Yet he never lifted a finger to stop it. Never demanded as was his right as the head football coach and single most powerful and influential figure on that campus, that if Sandusky wasn’t going to be turned into outside authorities that at the very least he wanted him banned from the Penn State campus and to stay far away from his team and players. 

Paterno knew what was going on, the emails that came to light and are quoted in both reports make it clear he kept a rapt interest in the case and wanted to know what Schultz, Curley and Spanier were doing about it. And yet we’re supposed to believe that he was helpless to do anything but go along with whatever course of action these men determined was best.

BULLSH*T!!!!

It’s clear to anyone who isn’t in the cult of Paterno that he agreed with these men’s actions or more accurately, inactions if he didn’t instigate the cover-up himself. There’s simply no other logical conclusion you can draw from his actions or again, his inactions.

Cultists believe what cultists believe and no amount of common sense is going to deter them from their beliefs. But please don’t try and convince the rest of us that the earth is the center of the solar system, the world is flat and the moon is made out of green cheese. 

It’s patently obvious which report has more credibility here….]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of how you view the Freeh report, there are several facts that Paterno apologists have never adequately answered…</p>
<p>Paterno was aware of the 1998 allegations against Sandusky, no one disputes this. The fact that Sandusky was not charged by the local authorities is irrelevant. Why did Paterno continue to allow Sandusky access to the Penn St campus and more specifically, the football facilities after this? Even if he understood that Sandusky had not been charged, why allow someone who’s had such a serious and vile accusation leveled against him to continue to hang around your student athletes? Paterno ran that team like a field marshal; he could have easily told Sandusky personally that his presence there around the team was no longer welcome.</p>
<p>Yet he didn’t. He continued to allow a man he knew had been accused of molesting a child ON CAMPUS access to his players, access to his facilities and access to his sidelines and coaching booth. </p>
<p>After 2001 he knew from what McQueary had explained to him that once again, his friend and ex-coach had been seen by an eye witness engaging in some sort of sexual act in the Penn State showers with an underage unidentified boy. Paterno testified that he understood that what McQueary saw was of a “sexual” nature and not mere horseplay or innocent roughhousing. He must have believed what McQueary told him because after thinking it over for more than a day, he went with this information to the AD and VP of the University. He continued to allow McQueary to work with the team and eventually, hired him as an assistant coach. He must have found him convincing or he would never have trusted him enough to actually hire him.</p>
<p>Even if Paterno believed that he done the right thing by leaving it in Schultz and Curley’s hands, why did he never question them as to what they did with this information? There is no evidence in either report that Joe followed up and demanded action from either of them or threatened to go above their heads to Spanier or the outside authorities. Even if you believe that Paterno felt he it wasn’t his job to prosecute Sandusky himself, why the total apathy towards these obviously extremely serious accusations? Why the complete indifference to the victims, the young man Paterno now knew had been molested by Sandusky in his own facility?</p>
<p>Paterno, and his apologists point toward his statement made when the accusations against Sandusky became public that he “In hindsight, I wish I had done more.” as if that alone exonerates or excuses his seeming complete disinterest in seeing some sort of action taken against Sandusky after 2 credible and serious charges had been leveled against him of being a child molester. One that was operating right under his very nose in the very facilities that he had utter and complete control over!!!</p>
<p>Did Paterno forbid him from hanging around the team? No.</p>
<p>Did Paterno ban him from using the teams’ facilities? No.</p>
<p>Did Paterno take away his office that sat just a few feet from his own? No.</p>
<p>Did Paterno ban his coaches from attending events with Sandusky or helping him with his charity? Again….no.</p>
<p>All these actions were well within Paterno’s scope of power at Penn St. Any head football coach at any university in America would have had such power. And we all know Paterno carried an almost Svengali like sway over that entire campus let alone the football facilities and everything that came into contact with it.  </p>
<p>These inactions go waaaaaay beyond a simple and simplistic statement of “I wish I had done more.” To say that’s inadequate is like saying the Pacific Ocean is a large body of water.</p>
<p>Paterno knew, as he clearly believed McQueary, that Sandusky was having sex with underage boys in the Penn State facilities yet took no action to prohibit it. None, Nada, Zilch. How many times in the ensuing dozen years did Joe see Jerry around the campus, around his team, around his facilities, in his locker room, in his showers, with or without little boys or had knowledge that he still access to young boys off campus and he did nothing!</p>
<p>NOTHING!</p>
<p>And we’re supposed to believe that it was all just out of his grasp, that he didn’t truly understand the magnitude of the accusations. That in hindsight, he’d wished he done more, and leave it at that.</p>
<p>PUHLEEZE!!!</p>
<p>Paterno himself made it clear before his death that he understood exactly what McQueary told him, that he clearly understood that Sandusky was molesting underage boys’ right in the Penn State showers. Yet he never lifted a finger to stop it. Never demanded as was his right as the head football coach and single most powerful and influential figure on that campus, that if Sandusky wasn’t going to be turned into outside authorities that at the very least he wanted him banned from the Penn State campus and to stay far away from his team and players. </p>
<p>Paterno knew what was going on, the emails that came to light and are quoted in both reports make it clear he kept a rapt interest in the case and wanted to know what Schultz, Curley and Spanier were doing about it. And yet we’re supposed to believe that he was helpless to do anything but go along with whatever course of action these men determined was best.</p>
<p>BULLSH*T!!!!</p>
<p>It’s clear to anyone who isn’t in the cult of Paterno that he agreed with these men’s actions or more accurately, inactions if he didn’t instigate the cover-up himself. There’s simply no other logical conclusion you can draw from his actions or again, his inactions.</p>
<p>Cultists believe what cultists believe and no amount of common sense is going to deter them from their beliefs. But please don’t try and convince the rest of us that the earth is the center of the solar system, the world is flat and the moon is made out of green cheese. </p>
<p>It’s patently obvious which report has more credibility here….</p>
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		<title>By: rehmer2389</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha change the &quot;facts&quot;. They sound more like opinions to me but I guess that&#039;s what you get when you let a hack run the investigation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha change the &#8220;facts&#8221;. They sound more like opinions to me but I guess that&#8217;s what you get when you let a hack run the investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: ralphross373</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In some ways I admire Mrs. Paterno for trying to clear her husbands name. However there is enough evidence to indicate Joe Paterno should and could have taken action that would have stopped Sandusky from doing future harm. Also other Penn State officials were just as lax. On the other hand; I think punishing the current coach and players is stupid - the NCAA needs to find a better way to address violations in general.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some ways I admire Mrs. Paterno for trying to clear her husbands name. However there is enough evidence to indicate Joe Paterno should and could have taken action that would have stopped Sandusky from doing future harm. Also other Penn State officials were just as lax. On the other hand; I think punishing the current coach and players is stupid &#8211; the NCAA needs to find a better way to address violations in general.</p>
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		<title>By: rickrock6661982</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Paternos are just determined to bring more embarrassment upon Penn State.

And themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Paternos are just determined to bring more embarrassment upon Penn State.</p>
<p>And themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: jackericsson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[State Penn University- just like the real prison, everyone says they are innocent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>State Penn University- just like the real prison, everyone says they are innocent.</p>
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		<title>By: srg608</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tommy57

I&#039;m not blind Tommy.  We all make mistakes and Paterno was obviously no different.  And you&#039;re right, he admitted that he wished he had done more.  In retrospect, I can&#039;t imagine anyone in his shoes saying anything different.  

Nothing is so crystal clear as hindsight.  Should he have done more?  Probably.  But how much more?  I guess that depends on whose opinion you&#039;ve decided to believe.  Freeh or Thornburgh.  Both are very well respected men.  But one of them says he knows what Paterno knew (and did) and the other says it&#039;s impossible to know based strictly on the evidence (without adding speculation and conjecture).  

Many of yesterdays facts now seem a lot more opinion based after reading Thornburgh&#039;s report.   I really don&#039;t know how much Paterno knew about Sandusky.  I don&#039;t know if he tried to cover it up.  I don&#039;t know how much more he could have or should have done.  But then again, No One Does.  

But I do know that he has touched countless lives in a positive way and the body of his work at the University and within the community mean far more to me than speculation.  

Flawed, yes.  We all are.  But a very good man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tommy57</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not blind Tommy.  We all make mistakes and Paterno was obviously no different.  And you&#8217;re right, he admitted that he wished he had done more.  In retrospect, I can&#8217;t imagine anyone in his shoes saying anything different.  </p>
<p>Nothing is so crystal clear as hindsight.  Should he have done more?  Probably.  But how much more?  I guess that depends on whose opinion you&#8217;ve decided to believe.  Freeh or Thornburgh.  Both are very well respected men.  But one of them says he knows what Paterno knew (and did) and the other says it&#8217;s impossible to know based strictly on the evidence (without adding speculation and conjecture).  </p>
<p>Many of yesterdays facts now seem a lot more opinion based after reading Thornburgh&#8217;s report.   I really don&#8217;t know how much Paterno knew about Sandusky.  I don&#8217;t know if he tried to cover it up.  I don&#8217;t know how much more he could have or should have done.  But then again, No One Does.  </p>
<p>But I do know that he has touched countless lives in a positive way and the body of his work at the University and within the community mean far more to me than speculation.  </p>
<p>Flawed, yes.  We all are.  But a very good man.</p>
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		<title>By: mancave001</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tttrojan4life:  &quot;The complete lack of remorse by PSU fans and the Paterno family makes it clear that the program needed the complete cessation of football, or at the very least the death penalty&quot;

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Why would the fans be remorseful?  The fans did nothing wrong.  Penn State&#039;s football culture is no different from yours or any other team&#039;s.  The notion that somehow the fans, students or anyone outside the accused was responsible is absolutely disgusting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tttrojan4life:  &#8220;The complete lack of remorse by PSU fans and the Paterno family makes it clear that the program needed the complete cessation of football, or at the very least the death penalty&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Why would the fans be remorseful?  The fans did nothing wrong.  Penn State&#8217;s football culture is no different from yours or any other team&#8217;s.  The notion that somehow the fans, students or anyone outside the accused was responsible is absolutely disgusting.</p>
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