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Saban: arrested Tide players suspended indefinitely

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And there you have it.  The king of college coaching has spoken.

In a statement released shortly after one was issued by his boss, Alabama head coach Nick Saban confirmed that the four players arrested Monday — running back Brent Calloway, linebacker Tyler Hayes, defensive lineman D.J. Pettway and defensive back Eddie Williams – have been indefinitely suspended.  As was the case with athletic director Mal Moore‘s statement, however, Saban did not address their long-term future with the program.

The young men charged are indefinitely suspended as we continue to gather information and talk to the appropriate people. The University and football program have strict guidelines regarding issues of this magnitude. This behavior is unacceptable for any student-athlete at the University of Alabama and not representative of our football program.

Williams was charged with second-degree robbery and fraudulent use of a credit/debit card as the result of two separate incidents that allegedly involved the beating and robbing of two UA students.  Hayes and Pettway were charged with second-degree robbery, while Calloway was charged with fraudulent use of a credit/debit card.

The robbery charges the three are facing are felonies.

Williams was also arrested the day before for carrying a pistol without a permit.

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79 Responses to “Saban: arrested Tide players suspended indefinitely”
  1. cubano76 says: Feb 12, 2013 2:11 PM

    “indefinitely” = Or until we have a REALLY big game where we’ll need them.

  2. tigersgeaux says: Feb 12, 2013 2:11 PM

    Of course they are. Just what I expected of Saban. Despite his distractors, he does run a tight ship.

  3. BrownsTown says: Feb 12, 2013 2:15 PM

    Bama is going to be owning the penal league conference as well.

    Their domination knows no bounds.

  4. BrownsTown says: Feb 12, 2013 2:21 PM

    After reading the previous stories on this saga, it appears that I’m late to the prison football jokes party.

    Well played, everybody else…..well played.

  5. gatorprof says: Feb 12, 2013 2:24 PM

    Appropriate response.

  6. rabbi187 says: Feb 12, 2013 2:24 PM

    There’s no doubt the SEC is the most dominant conference in college football, but even SEC fans can’t deny the scumbags that LSU, Bama, Auburn, and Florida recruit.

  7. domerboyirish says: Feb 12, 2013 2:26 PM

    This was a tough call for Saban. I’m sure this devastates the roster. He’ll just have to bump up a few of the freshman 5-star recruits up the depth chart. What a shame. I guess it is easy to kick kids off the team when you have that level of depth.

  8. gatorprof says: Feb 12, 2013 2:27 PM

    BrownsTown,

    I can only assume that you are a OSU fan given your handle, so be careful about the rocks you throw with Urban as your coach. He drove folks crazy down here with his 30+ arrest record, many for serious offenses, with many kids making it back on the team.

    If not for the glow of Tebow’s halo, UF would have (rightfully should have) received a lot more criticism nationally.

  9. Deb says: Feb 12, 2013 2:27 PM

    @cubano76 …

    As noted in a previous article, all these players are either true freshmen or redshirt freshmen. They have no role on the team.

    But a couple of years ago, Nick suspended a key starter for a bowl game because he violated team rules. tigersgeaux is right–you may hate the guy but he does run a tight ship.

    The loss in this case is completely theirs.

  10. blueinok says: Feb 12, 2013 2:51 PM

    How many kids does he have to be in compliance? Guess the decision was made easy for some.

  11. blueinok says: Feb 12, 2013 2:52 PM

    Have to cut – oops.

  12. xtremesportsmaniac says: Feb 12, 2013 2:53 PM

    Deb,
    He had no choice but to suspend Smith, he lied to Saban about contact with an agent. It was potential NCAA violation not just a character issue. They were also playing Utah which on paper didn’t look like a serious opponent.

  13. bralinshan says: Feb 12, 2013 2:58 PM

    This is not a Bama issue. It’s a problem with our society. These players are likely coming from poor backgrounds and have no good father model…and a “family” unit best described as chaotic.

    It’s a reflection of our decaying moral fiber with the inner city leading the decline.

    When kids grow up with no rules and nobody to teach them or show them how to act…they don’t get the discipline they need. Kids from these backgrounds are headed right back into poverty in most cases because they haven’t been taught life skills.

    It’s the wild west out there…and this mess is just the beginning. Because these players will likely repeat the same behavior that they’ve known forever…rinse and repeat.

  14. Deb says: Feb 12, 2013 3:00 PM

    @xtremesportsmaniac …

    Thanks … I couldn’t remember the details and was too lazy to them up. Obviously Utah was underestimated.

    Yep, Smith was a no-brainer … but so is this. It’s just silly for people to say they’ll be suspended until they’re needed. They’re not the first Bama players to be arrested or booted from the team, and they won’t be needed. It’s college football, and this happens. Sad, but it happens.

  15. friarjack61 says: Feb 12, 2013 3:07 PM

    Suspended ! Does that mean that they do not have to attend their TV Guide 101 class, and I am sure that their Public Speaking class will be without them too !

    Kick them out of school, and the B.S. suspension, can be terminated, as they should.

    Another great job of recruiting players of character.

  16. domerboyirish says: Feb 12, 2013 3:10 PM

    “Players of Character? I thought I was supposed to recruit ‘Characters that could play!’ Man, did I screw up…”

    - Nick Saban

  17. loadofwashmother says: Feb 12, 2013 3:16 PM

    LoL tide!
    Stay classy ! Hope you go to school one day!
    But best football team just dumb as rocks
    Who cares anyway they r just athletes
    Not student athlete

  18. bunyanj says: Feb 12, 2013 3:21 PM

    These 4 arrests with 3 of them felonies give Bama the clubhouse lead for the Fulmer Cup. That lead is not safe, though, with the competitors listed in rabbi187′s post. In fact he left out a few of the best including Georgia( a back to back winner recently), South Carolina and of course Tennessee, the home of the namesake of the cup. While there is plenty of time, those jailhouse suspensions at Bama may be hard to beat.

  19. Deb says: Feb 12, 2013 3:40 PM

    rabbi187 says:

    There’s no doubt the SEC is the most dominant conference in college football, but even SEC fans can’t deny the scumbags that LSU, Bama, Auburn, and Florida recruit.
    ————————————————-
    Interesting post for a rabbi. Somehow I expected one with that name to be better educated and more reflective.

    First, the arrest reports on CFT feature athletes from throughout the NCAA … the SEC doesn’t have close to a monopoly on this sort of thing.

    Second, I take exception to the word scumbags. These are kids, often from backgrounds you couldn’t imagine in your worst nightmares. As others have pointed out, they’ve never had anyone to teach them right from wrong or anything else. My brother, a successful criminal defense attorney, began his career as a public defender. He once told me it cut him up to see that he was the first positive male role model many of his clients had ever seen.

    Yes, if the case against them is proved, these kids should suffer the consequences. But that doesn’t mean anyone recruited “scumbags” or that they didn’t deserve a chance, even if they blew it.

  20. dickroy says: Feb 12, 2013 3:43 PM

    These things are all too common anymore.

  21. noring4youstill says: Feb 12, 2013 3:44 PM

    So are they expected to give back they money that was used to recruit? How bout the cars?

  22. florida727 says: Feb 12, 2013 3:44 PM

    Okay, okay, I get the whole I-hate-the-SEC thing. But seriously, do any of you idiots have any familiarity with “due process”? You know, that whole “innocent until proven guilty” thing?

    Saban did exactly what Saban was supposed to do. He suspended them. If he kicks them off the team and they’re proven to be innocent, they sue the school for defamation of character, breach of contract (scholarship), or any one of a number of other demeaning actions inappropriately taken. By suspending them, they’re barred from any team activity until a determination is made of their guilt or innocence.

    IF they are proven guilty, and Saban THEN does NOT drop them from the team, THEN you haters can have your so-called field day against Saban and the university. Until then, shut the —- up or get educated on a human being’s legal rights.

  23. noring4youstill says: Feb 12, 2013 3:46 PM

    bralinshan, in other words Democrats and Liberals.

  24. rcali says: Feb 12, 2013 4:02 PM

    And they’ll all be ready to go for the first game of the 2013 season.

  25. friarjack61 says: Feb 12, 2013 4:12 PM

    Lack of education, discipline in life, and respect for others……..but living on the ghetto code, of ‘you don’t matter, if I want what you have’. BUMS, who know nothing about responsibilities in life, and respect of, and for others. ME ! ME ! ME ! And wait until I’m in the NFL > “I’ll get the respect that I deserve. And who cares about everybody else”.

  26. guinsrule says: Feb 12, 2013 4:16 PM

    Parole Tide Pa-roool-e #PTP

  27. stairwayto7 says: Feb 12, 2013 4:17 PM

    Lack of institutional control! 3 year bowl ban!

  28. th56 says: Feb 12, 2013 4:31 PM

    Do any of these coaches even look a a kids character before wooing them like they’re the greatest person on the face of the earth, or is all they see is the stars after their name?

  29. poopiedumdum says: Feb 12, 2013 4:37 PM

    Florida727:

    In the police reports it says they all confessed to everything so even though judicial due process is certainly due think it’s safe to work off the assumption of guilty for purposes of commenting on a college football sports blog.

    Also, I’m sure an examination of your comment history would only reveal the un-tarnished level of “due process” you preach of.

  30. midwestwarrior says: Feb 12, 2013 4:40 PM

    when did dwarf saban learn about this news? while he was in the tanning salon? while he was busy dyeing his hair? he is more feminine than justin beiber and this guy is 62 years old. i know he is 4 feet tall and is shorter than the average size woman, so his massive napoleon complex/little man syndrome takes over repeatedly. will he get back the Yukon and Escalades he purchased these recruits like he purchased for trent richardson? of course the ncaa wont do anything to the almighty sec.

  31. 11inthebox says: Feb 12, 2013 4:58 PM

    @ friarjack61 who says:
    …but living on the ghetto code, of ‘you don’t matter, if I want what you have’. BUMS, who know nothing about responsibilities in life, and respect of, and for others. ME ! ME ! ME ! And wait until I’m in the NFL > “I’ll get the respect that I deserve. And who cares about everybody else”.
    ————————-
    Interesting. Same can be said for some people on Wall Street.

  32. knowmewell85 says: Feb 12, 2013 5:05 PM

    I don’t understand, playing college football is a privilege not a right. Cut them – its that simple. If I’m a big time recruit I wouldn’t want to be around this thuggery. Hence this is the reasons some players go to big ten schools. Less thuggery! nicholas saban man up every athlete can be replaced!

  33. snaxdsp says: Feb 12, 2013 5:07 PM

    What about the deer antler spray? Dirty program if I’ve ever seen one

  34. drago2012 says: Feb 12, 2013 5:17 PM

    I bet you anything that all of these players have problem with English language. I think Saban has a recruiting assistant who is an expert on ghetto English and who brings these guys in. Did you ever hear these guys being interviewed ? WOW!!! These colleges just want to make money on football and that is it. They say they care about the student athlete, but it is only a saying. Some of these guys make it to the NFL and i just don’t see how they went past the second grade of elementary schooling.

  35. vie05ua says: Feb 12, 2013 5:24 PM

    midwestwarrior – nice knock on Saban, except that had you ever met him or seen him upclose, he’s far from “feminine” and definitly looks his age. If in a tanning salon, he must do it with his shirt on since he’s got a farmer’s tan worse than mine and I’m a biker NOT cyclist. And dyed hair? You do realize sun bleaches hair blonde, right?

    snaxdsp – all young athletes do dumb stuff, and even a lot of the veteran ones. They were gullible enough to believe the sales guy, didn’t even test positive for any drugs. You might have a point if it could be proven they were doing it with the intent on breaking bylaws, but, no matter what news article you read, they were gullible and believed the sales guy and didn’t confer with the strength and nutrition coaches first.

    By policy these kids have to be suspended pending the formal investigation and judgement. Like someone said, it’s the University’s way of covering its rear in case one of them really is innocent and was coerced (not Williams, he’s dirty…). Once that’s all said and done, they’ll be officially kicked. This happens AT EVERY UNIVERSITY. Suspension pending formal investigation and charges, then based on judgement re-admission or expulsion.

    Guarantee most of the bashing on this thread is from SEC-haters and then “I’m mad you spanked Notre Dame so hard and embarassed Te’o” crowd.

  36. tony34343434 says: Feb 12, 2013 5:35 PM

    Roll Dam Cheaters!!! ROLL DAMMMMM!!!

    that never gets old.

    lots of great classes at bama,

    Deer Antler Spray at 8:15
    weapons possession at 9:30
    Night class is armed robbery!!!

  37. sabatimus says: Feb 12, 2013 5:48 PM

    Enough already: kick them OFF THE TEAM.

  38. kattykathy says: Feb 12, 2013 6:11 PM

    paROLL Tide, paROLL

    He/she stated that these kids probably never had anyone teach them right from wrong.

    Seriously?

    If you have a brain, then you know what is right and what is wrong. You don’t need someone to teach you that. But I expect the Tide defenders to come up with ridiculous defense arguments. Hope that successful brother criminal defense attorney, is on retainer..Hope he also isn’t imaginary, like all other boasts that are spewed out/

    Saban said they were suspended “indefinitely”. But that just means until spring practice begins. We all know that he didn’t suspend their paychecks though, or suspend the envelopes sent back to mama.

    Time for the catfish to respond.

  39. midwestwarrior says: Feb 12, 2013 6:20 PM

    the picture posted of dwarf weeman saban jumping is hilarious. Even in full verticle leap mode, he cant break 5 feet tall.

  40. domerboyirish says: Feb 12, 2013 6:35 PM

    Tony3434,

    Love the classes. It looks like Armed Robbery 101 must get ‘Lab Credit.’

  41. imaduffer says: Feb 12, 2013 7:05 PM

    This a classic example of a University of Alabama Road Scholar. They wear orange jump suits and pick up trash along Alabama highways.

  42. kansas525 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:10 PM

    Yes, he runs a really tight ship, unless it puts him in danger of losing a big game. Like the defensive end in the SEC championship game that had the uncalled late hit on the Georgia quarterback. No suspension there. Of course, if it would have been called, Alabama would not have been in the BCS championship game.

  43. seanb20124 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:57 PM

    this is why you over sign

  44. pipesmokin says: Feb 12, 2013 7:59 PM

    Does the whole team carry guns.If Williams was caught with a gun then why is Saban allowing him around to get other players in trouble.I think Saban cares about wins more then anything.Saban just cares about Saban.

  45. pipesmokin says: Feb 12, 2013 8:03 PM

    Bammers will be bammers,Updykes

  46. irishdodger says: Feb 12, 2013 8:31 PM

    http://socyberty.com/issues/alabama-football-program-violations-released/#ixzz2KjJsY1Tp

    It’s probably nothing. I can’t imagine Saban & staff committing any major infractions. Probably some minor self reported stuff. I don’t mean that in an Eddie Haskell kind of way.

  47. dcroz says: Feb 12, 2013 8:43 PM

    It’s terrible to see young men throw away the opportunity they had to get an education and perhaps have an NFL career. But, if they don’t have enough sense to appreciate what they have, then they should lose it. Saban has indefinitely suspended them for now to ensure the I’s are dotted and the T’s crossed, then they will be officially off the team. Not that he really has much choice, for if convicted they will be transferring to the State of Alabama Department of Corrections Fightin’ Jailbirds football program.

  48. bralinshan says: Feb 12, 2013 8:50 PM

    Saban will kick these kids off the team shortly. There is due process and covering the bases properly…

    There is a .0005% chance that these kids are getting the shaft or set up in some fashion. Remember Duke Lacrosse? Rushing to judgement is not something that needs to be done TODAY.

    There is a 99.5% chance that these kids are thugs and did exactly as what is being reported. But, until these things are 100% verified, Saban and Alabama must not kick them off the team.

    They will never wear the Tide uniform again… but protocol has to be followed.

  49. dcroz says: Feb 12, 2013 8:51 PM

    irishdodger:

    Nice try on the sarcasm. So we’re supposed to believe a website that no one besides you has apparently ever heard of when it says that violations rivaling SMU in the 1980s are going to be announced against Alabama on Friday, when 1) no one else is reporting it, 2) the site says that only portions of the report have been leaked so far, but then says absolutely nothing about what those leaks reveal in terms of details, and 3) there have been no reports of the NCAA snooping around Tuscaloosa. Riiiiight….

  50. pipesmokin says: Feb 12, 2013 9:15 PM

    @ dcroz

    I don`t know much about this link of irishdodger but this i know for sure,the NCAA has an office in Tuscalooser.LOL

  51. irishdodger says: Feb 12, 2013 9:20 PM

    @dcroz:

    guess you’re too young to know who Eddie Haskell is? That was my point of my statements Mr. Paranoid. I truly don’t think there’s anything to it. It was found on a Rivals message board. I’ve never heard of the site either & I agree that other outlets would have smoked this out if there’s anything to it. Seriously, Saban & Urban may not be saints but I’d be shocked if they knowingly committed major violations. Other idiots like Kiffin? Yeah, I could see him getting nabbed. Love him or hate him, Saban is the coach of this generation. His record is unparalleled. He’s responsible for elevating LSU to a national power & he’s responsible for returning Bama to national prominence. I’m an Irish fan but I can admit that Saban is king of the hill right now & I believe he’s not dumb enough to commit violations. Now go back to riding Bama’s coattails.

  52. Deb says: Feb 12, 2013 9:40 PM

    @irishdodger …

    Other than the knocks on dcroz, thanks for your last comment. The reason some of us react as he did to posts like your earlier one is because half the people on these blogs seem to have no real knowledge of the sport or rooting interest in any team. They come on for the sole purpose of harassing fans, claiming good programs cheat, and abusing people who are trying to talk about the game they love. It’s a sad life, but apparently it’s all they have. As a Notre Dame fan, I’m sure you’ve encountered more than your share of these trolls, so you should understand why dcroz got kinda testy there.

  53. ironman721 says: Feb 12, 2013 9:54 PM

    This is an awful situation for Alabama but in Miami this is just an average Tuesday. 🚨🚓🚔

  54. jason1214 says: Feb 12, 2013 9:59 PM

    Anyone find any irony in ND fans calling other teams thugs and criminals, when their school has covered up rape allegations against football players? Look ND fans you got your butts kicked on national tv…get over it. RTR

  55. irishdodger says: Feb 12, 2013 11:18 PM

    @ Deb

    Thanks. I realize everyone is used to sarcasm but I have no problem saying that Saban is the best HC of this era. I do have a problem with the rest of the SEC jumping on his coattails. Those NC were earned by Bama…not the other 13 teams. We can agree to disagree on the rooting for a conference…I respect your opinion. I didn’t realize dcroz was a Bammer….was thinking he was an LSU or Gator fan. Regardless, the Leave it to Beaver reference went right over his head. I am confident there’s nothing to that link I posted but why the hell would some offbeat, non-sports site report that. I would guess for hits, but it seemed to be a non-sports site. Anyway, a buddy of mine sent it to me (I’m an Irish fan in SEC country), so I thought someone here may be able to snuff it out.

  56. bigdinla says: Feb 13, 2013 7:26 AM

    Just for the record, no player that Saban has suspended indefinitely has ever played for Alabama again. This is always step one in the process of removing these people from the team.

    It is sad to see kids throw away a great chance for a better life, but it is impossible for today’s coaches to watch players 24/7. Saban does a better job then most at guiding these kids to a better life, but not everyone buys into the process. As Ron White says, “You can’t fix stupid.”

  57. packerbadger says: Feb 13, 2013 8:46 AM

    Any other non SEC coach would have kicked their azzes off the team. Sabans translation: “Suspended until we need them in big game to win”….because in the SEC, thats the only thing that matters. I guess I’ll concede that the SEC has the best, and most uneducated and stupid players in COLLEGE football!

  58. omniusprime says: Feb 13, 2013 8:55 AM

    No surprise that Alabama has a bunch of gun toting criminals as players. When will the NCAA start investigating the corrupt SEC teams, especially Alabama, for breaking NCAA rules? The NCAA has given the corrupt SEC too little scrutiny considering how too successful their programs are. There has to be cheating involved in Alabama’s success over the years, Saban isn’t that big a genius – more likely just another cheater who hasn’t been caught yet.

    Alabama – University of Criminals!!!

  59. packerbadger says: Feb 13, 2013 9:23 AM

    Question for you Deb. What does the word “COLLEGE” in phrase “COLLEGE FOOTBALL” mean to you? Being that you’re all high and mighty pounding your chest to your so called knowledge of football and other college sports. Other than winning at all costs in your holier than thou SEC, I really don’t see you standing for anything much other than “winning”.

  60. florida727 says: Feb 13, 2013 9:39 AM

    poopiedumdum says: Feb 12, 2013 4:37 PM

    In the police reports it says they all confessed to everything so even though judicial due process is certainly due think it’s safe to work off the assumption of guilty for purposes of commenting on a college football sports blog.

    Also, I’m sure an examination of your comment history would only reveal the un-tarnished level of “due process” you preach of.

    ———————————————————

    As a matter of fact, yeah, my history would reveal exactly that. Probably because I have a law degree. Since you obviously know nothing about police reports, confessions, and the like, look up the words “coerced confessions” and let me know what you find. That’s why defense attorneys get “confessions” thrown out all the time. Let it play out. If they’re guilty, I’d be the first one to promote them getting booted off the team. Why the rush to judgment? Got a date or something? Problem with assumptions is that they’re never rooted in fact, only supposition.

  61. Deb says: Feb 13, 2013 1:19 PM

    packerbadger …

    Obviously, the word college in this context means “amateur” rather than “pro.” This is a football blog, not an academic blog. And that’s good for you since you’re incapable of having a serious discussion of academics relating to football players.

    I made an effort on another thread to treat you like an adult and discuss the issues of education, etc., you claim are your only concern. You ran from that discussion because you’re full of BS. You don’t care about education. Adults interested in education don’t come onto blogs and screech that all kids who attend SEC schools and play for SEC teams are stupid. That’s the ranting of a troll. You’re just a fool who hates the SEC because their teams are competitive and your team isn’t. You’re a petty bully, and I don’t have time for petty bullies.

    And speaking of stupid … in the American criminal justice system, people are innocent until proved guilty. These players have been suspended from the team pending the outcome of their case. If they’re guilty, they’ll be kicked off. Alabama does not need these true and redshirt freshmen and is not keeping them around for that contingency. Even an idiot like you should be able to grasp that.

    Now … by all means, carry on with the hate posts that give you such joy and satisfaction. But don’t expect anymore replies from me. I answered your questions and gave you the opportunity to discuss. And you ran. I don’t waste my keystrokes on sad little trolls who have nothing productive to say and simply rant the same BS on every thread concerning rival teams.

  62. jason1214 says: Feb 13, 2013 1:50 PM

    I see the bitter Little 10 crowd has joined the anti-sec and Bama hating crowd. You are all sad.

  63. packerbadger says: Feb 13, 2013 2:21 PM

    Seems the MAJORITY here don’t support the sanctimonious SEC/Deb crowd by counting the thumbs. FACT! You are too much of a senseless being to correlate academics (or lack thereof) along with athletics. Theres a reason that the SEC is better in the mindless sports than say a Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc. You seem to “waste” quite a few keystrokes towards me. LOL! The Big 10 doesn’t have near the problems the SEC has because the idiots you can somehow get into the schools there wouldn’t even be looked at. All you care about is winning at all costs and turn a blind eye to anything goes until you get caught….which is quite frequent.

    Btw Deb, when I competed in college at Wisconsin, I kicked every SEC person in the activity I competed in; so no inferiority complex here.

  64. 1twinsfan says: Feb 13, 2013 2:31 PM

    Pa-role Tide.

  65. Deb says: Feb 13, 2013 2:53 PM

    @packerbadger …

    Yes, I have wasted quite a few keystrokes toward you. I’m an eternal optimist–always hoping to engage people in rational conversation. Alas, that’s not always possible. I’m glad you know what I care about since you don’t know me and your conclusion isn’t supported by the content of my posts. I’m thrilled you kicked every SEC person in every activity in which you competed while at Wisconsin. We’ll just take your word for that assertion … which isn’t supported by the content of your posts.

    As for the thumb support … since you’re all-knowing, I assume you’re aware this blog attracts up to 8 million unique readers during it’s busiest months and several million unique readers even during its slow months. I wouldn’t read universal approval into a dozen thumbs up. But then I don’t come to a football blog for validation. Have a nice life, packerbadger.

  66. metalhead65 says: Feb 13, 2013 2:59 PM

    way to go coach saban! making them miss conditioning and spring drills and summer workouts will really show them!nothing says don’t do this again like not making them work as hard as their teammates. I am sure they are all sitting at home now talking about what a mean man he is. see you guys in time for the first game.

  67. ezwriter69 says: Feb 13, 2013 3:01 PM

    The last time a team was this dominant was Nebraska. What brought them down? Jason Peter and Lawrence Phillips, and Tom Osbourns’s refusal to punish them, his choice to defend and enable and abet criminal thugs to keep his team dominant. Hope Saban doesn’t make the same mistake, but since these aren’t key players, he’ll probably suspend them for a game or two, unlike Osbourne.
    You can’t win without recruiting thugs, no one has for a long long time, but you can boot them when they f up, let’s hope Saban handles this better than Osbourne did a generation ago.

  68. normtide says: Feb 13, 2013 3:15 PM

    I expect them to all be removed from the team, permanently. The amount of talent there is staggering, so I doubt they will even be missed. Kids are free to make mistakes, but not free from the ramifications.

  69. packerbadger says: Feb 13, 2013 3:32 PM

    1twinsfan says:Feb 13, 2013 2:31 PM

    Pa-role Tide.
    ==================================

    +1

  70. packerbadger says: Feb 13, 2013 3:34 PM

    Alabama/SEC is akin to Barry Bonds and his home run title*.

  71. packerbadger says: Feb 13, 2013 3:37 PM

    Deb:
    Have a nice life, packerbadger.
    ================================

    I am/will!!
    *pops open can of Miller, takes big bite of brat and smiles*

  72. Deb says: Feb 13, 2013 3:56 PM

    LOL

  73. jason1214 says: Feb 14, 2013 2:02 PM

    Wow…so much for due process. The four players in this case, will not be members of the football team come fall. Bank on it.

  74. onlyoneleft says: Feb 14, 2013 4:17 PM

    Saban says don’t worry about it–Spurrer gives them 5 chances. The SEC is all about character building.

  75. lasseter1113 says: Feb 15, 2013 1:06 PM

    And people wonder why Alabama and most SEC fans are the way we are. It’s so funny, these same players you are condemning Saban for recruiting are the same players that your school tried to recruit too, and if you would have beat us out for one of them you would have been on here pounding your chest, bragging like hell.

    PackerBadger takes the cake. Why the hell ANYBODY from Wisconsin could have such a problem/obsession with a team and conference that has NOTHING to do with them is beyond me? Maybe it has something to do with Bret Bielema? You know, the coach from the beloved Wisconsin team that he thinks is so high and mighty that TOOK OFF for a head coaching job in the SEC the first chance he got. Imagine that, the HEAD COACH of Wisconsin thought the SEC is a good enough place to take a job over staying at Wisconsin. LMAO!!! I truly pity you Packer, you are an embarrassment to all Wisconsin football fans.

    To all the people that have been kind and understanding throughout this horrible ordeal, and to those that realize this is an isolated incident and chose not to kick us when we are down, I just wanted to say THANK YOU. This has been an embarrassing situation for us Alabama fans and we hope that these kids are punished for what they did and feel like they should NEVER be allowed to play football at Alabama, or anywhere for that matter, ever again. What would make these kids do something this stupid and throw away such bright futures is mind boggling??

    To everybody else that is having so much fun belittling Alabama and the SEC for this. Just remember, what goes around comes around. Karma is a bitch and it could very well be your program that is next. So why don’t you let us Alabama fans worry about Alabama and you go worry about your own team…

    ROLL TIDE ROLL and GO SEC!!!!

  76. waynefontes says: Feb 15, 2013 11:12 PM

    packerbadger says:
    Feb 13, 2013 2:21 PM

    Btw Deb, when I competed in college at Wisconsin, I kicked every SEC person in the activity I competed in; so no inferiority complex here.
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    Of course you did.

    The fact that you constantly post on SEC matters makes it more likely that you were embarrassed by SEC opponents. Kind of like how you would be embarrassed by your coach leaving for a middle of the road SEC school.

    Can’t say I blame you. Isn’t about time for another academic report. After all, your football program is going nowhere other than trying to break the record of most losses by a BCS bowl team.

    “All you care about is winning at all costs and turn a blind eye to anything goes until you get caught….which is quite frequent.”

    Are you referring to Penn State enabling and protecting a child molester? Looks like the Big 10 isn’t exactly holier-than-thou.

  77. philipmiller111 says: Feb 17, 2013 5:48 PM

    Alabama is the new Miami U.

  78. obieknobbe says: Feb 19, 2013 12:08 AM

    I am a Notre Dame fan and I don’t really see this being telling of how Saban runs his team. These guys were freshman if I am correct, I think if these guys were seniors and pulling things like this it would be a different story because then they would have been in his system much longer. Honestly as much as people love to hate on Alabama and Nick Saban, I can’t really find a reason to. Seems to me he is just a great coach with a great system. As of right now, he is doing everything he can to win which is his job. If he gets caught cheating that all changes but as of right now he has one of the tightest ships in the SEC, from my point of view anyway.

  79. friarjack61 says: Feb 19, 2013 10:37 AM

    Obieknobbe: Well stated. I too, am a Irish fan.

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