Ugghhh, where should I look for role models for youngsters in the inner city, many of whom do not have a male role model? The professional leagues? Colleges are a GREAT PLACE for role models b/c if nothing else, these people GO TO SCHOOL!! To some of these young people, school is not cool so we need to change that to inspire more kids to go onto school….BTW, Miami is facing more penalties and you can point to the knee-jerk reaction of your esteemed President Madam Shalalala for her outburst against the NCAA.

It’s because of the THUGS that Miami has used to attain their haughty record over the years. Ray Lewis – 6 kids with 4 different women! What kind of role model is that for inner city children? No, no, no…. I’ve had enough of Miami and the “U” and all the other shtickla that Miami represents. Just look in the mirror and see what Miami has become….you guys are like a pariah. Everyone except your small fan base wants to see Miami go down…and go down HARD!! Get ready because the NCAA is going to grill ya. But Canehouse, I have nothing against you personally….What can I tell ya….

Randy Shannon closed the barn door after all the cattle and horses were allowed to roam free. The “Used To Be” is finally going to receive what is due them. I don’t care who Pres Shalalalalala knows in the White House! Two years of bowl bans are not enough. This is Miami’s third major violation in 20 years and that big mouth President of yours can yell and scream all she wants! She should have known what was happening and my sense is Paul Dee, your esteemed former and now deceased AD, probably did know! He probably said: it’s not on the “U’s” dime so what do I care…..FIRE SHALALA for starters!!!

If the NOA is so flimsy then maybe you shouldn’t be afraid of releasing it to the public?

If you go through the USC report you will see they never had any evidence against USC. The did have evidence that Reggie’s family took gifts from a criminal but no evidence that USC knew about it. Todd McNair, the coach the NCAA referenced in their report is about to win his lawsuit against the NCAA over this situation.

The USC case an the UM case are very similar aside from the amount of players involved and the type of gifts.

The NCAA hammered SC because they said they “should have known” and had no facts that they did know. The NCAA is not a court of law they do not need facts. They will operate and punish on hearsay.

People keep talking about “Truth” and “Facts.” They don’t matter. It is what is “proven” and “not proven” to the satisfaction of the NCAA. The NCAA is not accountable to the public or to the fans. And this is all possible because Miami agreed to the rules of the NCAA in exchange for their participation in the giant money-grab that is NCAA Football.

If they don’t like it, the NAIA would certainly be willing to take them.

But please, stop playing lawyer. There is nothing here that involves the legal or justice system.

“Let me ask something else: if Nevin Shapiro was never convicted, would Miami have disassociated itself from this guy? My sense is “no, they would not” because there would not be an incentive to end such activity. ”

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about in regards to this case as Shapiro was exiled long before he was even arrested. Randy Shannon barred him from the players well before his ponzi scheming came to light.

Anyone who thinks Miami is taking ANYTHING close to a death penalty is just lying to themselves at this point. They have been blinded by libelest Charles Robinsons fluff piece from 2 years ago that presented no facts, to the point where the NCAA ran a witch hunt and paid a convicted felon to talk on a burner cell phone.

If the infractions committee DARES to raise one finger to Miami they will be into a massive lawsuit not only from Miami but from the entire ACC, considering the Bowl Revenue that Miami turned down is split amongst the conference.

This is a war the NCAA doesn’t want. They don’t want to go to discovery with a University President that has the White House standing behind her.

And those depositions really smell bad. If Shapiro had kept any records of his own, those depositions would never have been needed. The only two possibilities would seem that either A) The NCAA thought they needed them because they knew they didn’t have much of a case without them, or B) The entire purpose of them was to launder the $20K and get it to Shapiro. Which one of those does the NCAA want to cop to?

I hope Miami fans are enjoying basketball season this year, it will be the last interesting thing that happens on that campus for a very long time.

The only thing about this that is sad is that the NCAA seems to only care about the successful programs… USC, Ohio St., Miami, North Carolina, Auburn, Oregon… it seems the NCAA is trailing those successful programs (money) with a poop bag trying to scrape just a little more off the top.

But what you can’t argue is that Miami plays by the NCAA rule book VOLUNTARILY, and are subject to the whim of the NCAA for breaking those rules. This is not law, not a court, and fairness has nothing to do with what is going on here.

Donna Shalala is another issue entirely. She is a politician at heart who was a cabinet member of President Clinton. I happen to like Clinton politics but never was a fan of Secretary Shalala. Truly an empty suit with a big mouth.

Also, Haden didn’t have this chance to stand up. Shalala is in the position to do so only b/c Miami has cooperated so heavily over the past 2.5 years. If Haden had done so, it wouldn’t have made a big impact.

USC famously *refused* to cooperate, which as the last 2.5 years indicates, is the RIGHT thing to do. If the outcome is pre-determined, may as well make it hard as hell for the NCAA.

Sorry for the confusion, I was trying to emphasize that Shapiro is a guy whose entire life revolved around creating illusions, not just that he was a convicted felon.

Taking Shapiro at his word is believing someone who is a pathological liar. Sure some of what he says may be true, but goddam you’re gonna have to back it up with *hard* evidence.

Now apparently, all the ‘explosive’ claims have no merit (per the NCAA itself), and “many” of the claims that made it into the NOA are uncorroborated…hell what *is* there? If the Reynolds information is true, we’re looking at 35k (subtracting the 5k that players were suspended for in 2011) over a 10 year period?

USCe will tell you that’s a blip on the radar.

Lloyd Lake was also a convicted felon /gang member.

He and Reggie were from the same neighborhood and he was trying to use Reggie to start his own marketing firm after he got out of jail.

It’s good to see Donna go after these guys I wish Pat Haden wasn’t so weak.

Is there a better University than the U to trailblaze against the NCAA? The rest of you universities will benefit from the U!!

It’s kinda nice after all the “we’ll let the process play out” statements you get from other teams that receive these notices.

The enforcement committee and the infractions committee are two different groups. The EC is the ‘prosecutor’, the IC is the ‘jury’. So with that said, I’m not *really* surprised the EC is making allegations based solely on the word (spoken twice) of a convicted felon. They’ve certainly relied on a sole hearsay before (Lloyd Lake), though in this case it’s unique since the hearsay is from a *convicted felon who is in jail for massive fraud and a career of lying*.

Intuition would normally tell me that this is a bit of theatrics: the NCAA gets to save face by storming at Miami, Miami rallies support by butting heads with the NCAA…while a carefully crafted agreement has been made for the COI (‘jury’) to ignore the unsubstantiated claims and cements the self-imposed scholarship reductions — both parties end up happy.

HOWEVER, the NCAA/Emmert has been incompetent up to this point. I wouldn’t be shocked if they could bluster their way out on top. They’re already being sued by the State of Pennsylvania…it would be mind-numbingly stupid to invite ANOTHER lawsuit.

Emmert is not going to survive as it is; if he keeps messing up, the NCAA might not either.