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Alabama joins LSU in offering scholarship to eighth grader

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Last summer, we noted that LSU had taken the unusual — but not unprecedented — step in offering a scholarship to a 14-year-old prospect who had yet to complete his junior-high playing career let alone high school.

Seven months later, a recruiting behemoth from the same conference has hopped on the way-too-early offer train as well.

The father of eighth grader Dylan Moses confirmed to al.com that Alabama had offered his son a scholarship over the weekend.  The offer came in the midst of the Tide’s Junior Day event and was one of several handed out.

Like everyone else, Edward Moses says he was surprised by the offer that came wrapped in a pretty little “your son could be the best player in the Class of 2017” bow.

“We got the invitation to come to Alabama’s Junior Day a few weeks ago and to be honest we were kind of surprised,” said Dylan’s father Edward Moses Jr. “When we got there, Coach (Burton) Burns took us around and introduced us to the entire coaching staff and they all seemed very interested in Dylan. They treated him like a five-star recruit.”

“We met with Coach Saban after lunch and he talked to Dylan about his future and what he needed to do to achieve his potential as a student and as a football player. When he said he was offering Dylan a scholarship, we asked a lot of questions just to make sure we knew exactly what he meant. Coach Saban said the Alabama staff believes Dylan has a chance to be the best player in the country in the Class of 2017 and they were ready to offer him a scholarship. That’s when the fireworks started going off in our heads.”

Just to reiterate, Moses has yet to complete the eighth grade and will not make his high school football debut for about six months.

Moses, who lives a short distance from LSU’s Tiger Stadium, has yet to give a verbal commitment to either of the schools, although he did say last July after his first scholarship offer that he’s “always wanted to play for LSU since I was a kid, and now it’s coming true in front of my eyes.”  The elder Moses added that the family isn’t “putting any pressure on him with the recruiting process right now” and that his son doesn’t “feels any need to rush his decision.”

As previously noted, this is not exactly an unprecedented move on the part of either Alabama or LSU.  At around the time Moses was receiving an offer from LSU, 14-year-old San Diego quarterback Tate Martell was on the receiving end of one from Washington.

Neither of those players are the youngest, however (unfortunately?), as that honor falls to David Sills, who was a 13-year-old quarterback when he received a scholarship offer from Lane Kiffin and USC.  Unlike Moses, though, Sills verbally committed to the Trojans; three years later, and after sitting in on positional meetings with Trojan players and coaches, both the commitment and offer remains rock solid.

Sills will be a member of the 2015 recruiting class.

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61 Responses to “Alabama joins LSU in offering scholarship to eighth grader”
  1. scalpemseminoles says: Feb 25, 2013 4:20 PM

    this is fuggin ridiculous

  2. tigersgeaux says: Feb 25, 2013 4:25 PM

    What’s up Bama? Slow to the recruiting, a few months behind LSU? Can’t let that happen!

    All jesting aside, this is ridiculous for any school to do. How can this be binding to anyone when the young lad may not even have an interest in football in high school or the school may not have an interest in him? W–a—y too soon!

  3. bamafan36 says: Feb 25, 2013 4:34 PM

    I just let my 7th grader read this article (not the responses), for a clear message that even now, he has to keep his nose clean and his grades up.

  4. ajw21 says: Feb 25, 2013 4:48 PM

    Its sad & pathetic for any school to do this. The kid isnt matured physically and the school has no idea how he will turn out. In 3 years they could pull the scholarship and crush the kid for not living up to his “potential”. I personally don’t think you should be able to offer any athlete until they are 15 or a sophmore at the hs level.

  5. 10kmp says: Feb 25, 2013 5:04 PM

    I love college football. It has brought me much pleasure in my life… sincerely. But I just cannot reconcile this offering of a scholarship to a middle schooler. Recruiting (which I follow extensively I must admit) was already out of control IMO, but this has crossed a line. There’s something skeevy, sleazy, shifty or creepy about it. I don’t know why exactly, but something is just wrong when 60 year old men are competing for the attention of 14 year old kids. If the NCAA wants to do something positive (that’ll never happen, I know) they’ll institute clear rules forbidding contact with a player until he has completed his sophomore year in HS.

  6. tony34343434 says: Feb 25, 2013 5:09 PM

    Sad thing is any 8th grader in the county could graduate Magna Cum Laude from bama!!

    They should close it down, it is even a school or just minor league football? This is a disgrace. All the people saying how honorable Saban and the great history of this school. It is all down the toliet.

    Keep winning football games that is all you have, disgusting and disgraceful!!!

  7. Deb says: Feb 25, 2013 5:10 PM

    It’s just cuckoo for any program, including ours, to be offering scholarships to junior high kids. It might be a positive thing for coaches like Miles and Saban to visit teams and talk to young players about what they can achieve if they work and study hard. But telling them a scholarship is on the table puts too much pressure on these children and increases the potential for family members to start pulling them apart like the wishbone on the fryer or trying to sell them to the highest bidder.

  8. cometkazie says: Feb 25, 2013 5:10 PM

    Geaux Tigers!

    Did the article say which high school he will be attending next school year?

  9. imaduffer says: Feb 25, 2013 5:23 PM

    Saban asked him to spell “cat”and he did and that made him qualified to play for bama.

  10. tony34343434 says: Feb 25, 2013 5:28 PM

    He spelled cat and when instantly put in the high honors program!!! hahaha

  11. effjohntaylornorelation says: Feb 25, 2013 5:31 PM

    Wonder how these coaches would feel if it was their child. Soulless beings.

  12. crazyfootballfun says: Feb 25, 2013 5:34 PM

    Wow, this is what college football has now stooped to. How bout sending scouts to Pop Warner games? the NCAA wastes its time on so much frivolous nonsense and this kind of thing is fine?

  13. Deb says: Feb 25, 2013 5:38 PM

    @crazyfootballfun …

    You think they don’t already send scouts to Pop Warner games?

  14. necr0philia says: Feb 25, 2013 6:31 PM

    China has sweat shops with kids his age making Walmart products. I guess that’s NOT as bad as playing for one of these schools!!!

  15. midwestwarrior says: Feb 25, 2013 6:51 PM

    well to be honest , king dwarf saban has a lot in common with 8th graders. for one, saban is the average height of most 8th graders, so he can stand eye to eye while talking to them. 2nd, he is like a 62 year old justin beiber as it is, he dyes his hair every week, visits tanning booths, typical preteen behavior that saban exhibits. so in all honesty this makes perfect sense for saban.

  16. marcinhouston says: Feb 25, 2013 7:35 PM

    He already has a faster 40 time and a girlfriend with a bigger bust size than #2 Heisman vote getter Manti Te’o, so why not take offers?

  17. thegamecocker says: Feb 25, 2013 7:46 PM

    With the high cost of a college education, I would feel honored if a major university offered my child a full scholarship. I really do not see the harm that many of you are stating. Is there something wrong with having the knowledge you have a scholarship in 6 years IF you maintain a certain grade level and continue to develop? The coaches met the child’s parent and made a decision about character and ethics. Then they offered the young man a scholarship. I really do not understand the backlash. Also, say we were recruiting in a poor neighborhood and the coaches told some outstanding player: “You can EARN a fully paid for college education BUT you must stay out of trouble; take EDUCATION seriously; and continue to play your best”. Maybe that young person would take HS academics more serious which would prepare him for college level academia.

  18. cometkazie says: Feb 25, 2013 8:06 PM

    I searched the BR Advocate site and came up with this article from this past fall. The boy is mentioned towards the end.

    http://theadvocate.com/sports/preps/4083394-123/louisiana-alabama-all-star-football-game-in

    University is the lab school on the LSU campus. It’s hard for civilians to get into. Miles’ kids go there.

    One or more of his parents may work at LSU or he got lucky.

  19. Deb says: Feb 25, 2013 9:00 PM

    @thegamecocker …

    I wouldn’t have a problem with coaches telling youngsters they could earn a scholarship if they keep up their grades, etc. But the implication here is that this child has been told a scholarship already has been reserved for him. It’s a more aggressive form of recruiting that seems excessive when you’re talking about junior-high kids.

    And I was serious in my earlier comment. If they’re trying to get commitments from junior high kids, I’m sure college scouts are also scoping out Pop Warner games.

  20. Deb says: Feb 25, 2013 9:03 PM

    @cometkazie …

    Thanks for that info! Hope it means his parents are a little more savvy than the average and will keep level heads through all this.

  21. goodfieldnohit says: Feb 25, 2013 9:30 PM

    And Mack Brown complained about unfairness, all the while the Longhorn Network plans to televise this kid’s middle school football games.

  22. lasseter1113 says: Feb 25, 2013 10:25 PM

    And there’s that BUTTHURT ND fan Tony343434 running his mouth again. Hey Tony, what the hell is this mess?

    “He spelled cat and WHEN instantly put in the high honors program”

    And your trying to say Alabama doesn’t give students good educations? It’s like that in ALL of the stupid comments you leave on Alabama articles. Here’s you, “I make fun of people not so good, duh”…Come on, give me a break.

    Hey I heard ND was going to offer him too but then they found out the kid doesn’t believe in Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny anymore, the main requirement for getting into ND…Ho Ho Ho, Merry Christmas Teo, I know you still believe…

    SCORE to the BOARD to the BOARD to the SCORE….SCOREBOARD….God I love it….

  23. imaduffer says: Feb 25, 2013 10:41 PM

    @lassie

    Please reread YOUR comment.

  24. normtide says: Feb 25, 2013 10:47 PM

    Nothing is binding, on other side of the offer. This is pageantry, nothing more. The only harm is the kid’s ego getting hyper inflated. If this truly disgusts you, take a third of the time and money you invest in college football, and spend it on academic competition. Most that are complaining are a part of the ‘problem’. Spelling bees are not selling out, high school football games are. You spend a lot of time reading football blogs, yet are appalled that football is so important. Hypocrisy.

  25. jason1214 says: Feb 25, 2013 11:35 PM

    “Surrreee…those scholly’s will still be there in 4-5 years son”
    Funny people blame the programs who have offered middle schoolers, which is insane. They forget ESPN who has made recruiting the insanity it is now. Tony, go to bed.
    Lest we not forget technology has made it almost impossible for NCAA to enforce their rules.

  26. lasseter1113 says: Feb 25, 2013 11:38 PM

    Sorry YOU’RE right, but I’m not the one accusing anybody of not having a good education. At least my sentences make sense. It’s not YOUR fight anyways, or is it? YEP, just googled YOUR screen name, turns out YOU’RE just another BUTTHURT ND fan. OMG, you mean you don’t like Alabama?????? Get the hell out of here??? NO FREAKIN’ WAY??? I am stunned to say the least. On behalf of all my fellow Bama fans I would like to apologize for that horrible beatdown YOUR team had to suffer at the hands of my team Alabama in the National Championship Game. Must have been hard huh? I can’t even imagine, biggest game of the year on National Television. Hey but you can get YOUR revenge one comment at a time on Alabama related articles on CFT. Congrats on that….

  27. jason1214 says: Feb 25, 2013 11:47 PM

    @lass
    Well put! RTR

  28. imaduffer says: Feb 26, 2013 12:02 AM

    @lassie,

    Please reread your last statement. Not only are you confusing me but you are making an arse out of yourself.

  29. lasseter1113 says: Feb 26, 2013 12:24 AM

    What’s not to get about it? YOU’RE a NOTRE DAME fan and I can think of somewhere between FORTY-TWO to FOURTEEN reasons why you would be here. Most of them are synonyms for bitterness and jealousy though…

    The names Lasseter by the way, I don’t call you ImaFLUFFER… ;)

  30. imaduffer says: Feb 26, 2013 12:40 AM

    Lasseter,

    The Irish suck.

    ImaFLUFFER, that is funny. I’m a Oregon Duck fan and yes we should have been playing in the NCG, not ND.

    Good night

  31. suprmous says: Feb 26, 2013 1:46 AM

    As crazy as this may sound why is it that I get the feelin some of the die hard Bama fans will come and say that LSU’s joinin Bama in offerin a scholarship to this eighth grader? I, however think that givin scholarships to younguns this young is a bit much. Who’s to say that youngun will want to go to College rather than join the Military and become an Officer or go thru life on a wing and a prayer as part of the Gimme/You Owe Me School of Thought. Just sayin….. On the other hand if said youngun feels confident they’ll be goin to College no harm in settin aside a change jar for misc expenses.

  32. LasseterRTR says: Feb 26, 2013 1:49 AM

    My bad, I just figured judging by this comment

    Saban asked him to spell “cat”and he did and that made him qualified to play for bama.

    that you HAD to be a ND fan like that thought it was so funny Tony343434. Especially after I said all that about ND and you corrected me. But to be fair, if you are going to come on to other rival team’s articles and leave comments like you did you could put something in your name to show what school you represent so people like me can give it right back. I know that is probably asking too much but just to be fair I have already done the same thing. I actually did it before I even read your last comment.

    Can I ask you something? Why does somebody from Oregon have a problem with Alabama anyways? I actually root for you guys in the Pac12 and would have loved to play you in the National Championship. It would have been a WAY better game than what it was that’s for sure. You have to forgive my knee jerk reaction to your comments but you just don’t understand how old it gets hearing the same insults from the same people on here over and over and over again. The way I see it, if people are going to come on to an article about my team and dish out shit, they better be ready to take it right back. Ok, it’s time for me to go to sleep, it’s way too late here. Once again, sorry for calling you an Irish fan, that’s the worst insult of them all…

    Check out my new screen name…

  33. LasseterRTR says: Feb 26, 2013 1:55 AM

    @suprmous

    What are you talking about? LSU did offer this kid a scholarship way before Bama did. That’s what this article is about? He lives right next to LSU’s stadium…

  34. suprmous says: Feb 26, 2013 1:59 AM

    Lasseter, what I was sayin was die hard Bama Fans will want to say LSU was followin Bama’s lead in givin the youngun the scholarship rather than the other way around. Put on your thinkin cap and notice a lot the time some of those die hard Bama fans had rather see other folks follow them rather than them follow others. Geesh Louise.

  35. LasseterRTR says: Feb 26, 2013 2:02 AM

    ***insert ‘your partner in crime’ in between like and that on the first paragraph on my next to last comment. Sorry, it’s been a long ass day….

    Why isn’t there an option to edit your comments on here anyways?

  36. LasseterRTR says: Feb 26, 2013 2:13 AM

    @suprmous

    You guys can have the credit for offering this kid a scholarship. Apparently it doesn’t sit to well with the natives. Hey, I’m a die hard Bama fan and I got nothing but respect for LSU. If it wasn’t for you guys, the season would almost be too easy…and that’s not an opening for some SOS quips people…

  37. suprmous says: Feb 26, 2013 5:36 AM

    I didn’t mean to start another Holy War but just stated a fact or 2. And as for my “partner in crime” I’ve only got a few livin, and they’re my 3 brothers and my parents who I hold a whole bunch of respect up to and some friends. Ironically, I’m not interested in SOSs I just love the simplicity of watchin 2 teams play. Call me wierd if you want to but that’s just me. The razzle dazzle doesn’t impress me a lot. Either you can play a good game or you can play dirty and get caught up in it the wrong way.

    As for havin a bad day, treat yourself to a long hot shower and a good nite’s sleep and know you’ll be as good as new once you re-energize. Take care, Mon Cher and have a good week.

  38. dcroz says: Feb 26, 2013 7:35 AM

    While this is pretty much just for show or to get the kid thinking about a school well in advance of his actual recruitment, this is still ridiculous.

    And nevermind Pop Warner; college scouts are soon going to be showing up at maternity wards…if not Lamaze classes.

    Speaking of maternity wards, Tony34343434, midwestwarrior, and the rest of the crybabies need to go back there to see if they can find their lost pacifiers.

  39. 24pointlead says: Feb 26, 2013 7:56 AM

    This does not get any better – “Here comes Moses parting the Red D”. Moses is heard screaming “Let my people go!” When he goes on the road, he says, “I have become an alien in a foreign land”. His grandmother in the stands (Grandma Moses, of course) says…..well you get it.

  40. dkhhuey says: Feb 26, 2013 7:57 AM

    Congrats Mr. and Mrs. Smith on the birth of your newborn son. We have been looking at the ultrasounds for months and want to offer him a scholarship to play football at….

  41. thegamecocker says: Feb 26, 2013 8:53 AM

    @suprmous and LasseterRTR

    Do I sense a “Bromance” about to happen with you guys? :)

  42. florida727 says: Feb 26, 2013 9:01 AM

    If you happen to be a basketball fan and/or especially one from the midwest, you might remember Bobby Knight did this back in the mid-1980’s when he offered a scholarship to Damon Bailey, while he was in 8th grade. Bailey did go to Indiana and played from 1990 through 1994 if I remember right.

    The headline in Sports Illustrated read, “Bailey Commits to IU, Will Choose High School Later”. Still laugh at the thought of it.

  43. polegojim says: Feb 26, 2013 9:12 AM

    WOW… you people are nuts.

    Do me a favor and See BAMAFAN36 comment – it’s#3 – that’s sanity and focus.

    How many of you are parents???

    How many would love to have your child focused on a superior goal in the 8th grade???

    How many would like to have that goal reinforced in your childs mind???

    SO FREAKING WHAT if he decides NOT to play football. What difference does that make???

    RIGHT NOW… this is helping him focus on football and school…. and you all think that’s a BAD THING? SOBER UP!

    YOU’RE NUTS and YES… I’m yelling with the CAPS – in disbelief at the shallow vision presented here.

  44. LasseterRTR says: Feb 26, 2013 9:58 AM

    @thegamecocker

    Lmao, not quite, I don’t think either of us understood what the other was saying the whole time. I would like to be able to get along with all the fans on here but wish in one hand and do you know what in the other right? I really hate that saying. Probably got a lot of thumbs down coming whether people like my point or not now that I’ve added the RTR into my screen name. More than half the time on here I can say the nicest most logical thing in the whole entire world and if I just mention Alabama in my comment I get nothing but thumbs WAY down. But who cares, it’s a college football site, not a popularity contest…

    Oh and I COMPLETELY agree with you on this. I have a son and it would be friggin’ AWESOME (I like using the yelling caps too) if he was good enough to be offered a scholarship by either of these schools when he was in 8th grade.

  45. LasseterRTR says: Feb 26, 2013 10:02 AM

    @polegojim

    Sorry that last paragraph was meant for you on my last comment. Once again why we can’t edit these things is beyond me???

  46. cometkazie says: Feb 26, 2013 10:42 AM

    So many of these kids hit their max early and don’t amount to much after that.

    Track coaches tell me they look at potential for development, both physically and mentally.

    SaturdayDownSouth ran a review of recent five star high school recruits, following them thru college and into the NFL. Seemed as if at least half were busts, if success in college football is any indicator.

    As far as thumbs down being any indicator, Deb can post “God is great!” and get five thumbs down before you can blink an eye. Don’t take yourselves too seriously. ;)

  47. Deb says: Feb 26, 2013 12:31 PM

    @cometkazie …

    LOL! You’re the best! Not only would I get five thumbs down, but several would post snarky rebuttals and one verbally meandering LSU fan would say my post meant that a “diehard Bama fan” was claiming Saban loves God more than Miles does. ;)

  48. Deb says: Feb 26, 2013 12:38 PM

    @Lasseter …

    What I wouldn’t give for an edit feature!!

    @florida727, polegojim, normtide, and apologies to thegamecocker …

    After reading your perspectives (thanks for the info florida727–didn’t know about Bobby Knight), maybe we have overreacted. I’m still concerned about putting too much pressure on kids … but if it can keep them focused and out of trouble, that’s a good thing.

  49. fahmundamahbalsaq says: Feb 26, 2013 1:39 PM

    Should be a rule: no hair on your balls, no scholarship offer.

  50. sanduskyshowerboy says: Feb 26, 2013 2:49 PM

    @fahmundamahbalsaq

    we can call it the sandusky rule

  51. sqlozzie says: Feb 26, 2013 3:36 PM

    What about John Reid at St Joes Prep?

  52. vader7176 says: Feb 26, 2013 8:26 PM

    Oh yeah. this kid and his parents are gonna be a treat for his High School coaches….

  53. suprmous says: Feb 27, 2013 2:46 AM

    Once again Ms. Know it All takes it for granted she knows what I’d do and usin the icons all the while as to knowin what I’d say /or do. L’il does she know but what the hell she’s wrong once again, just goes to prove she doesn’t have ESP. cometkazie, does it ever dawn on you that maybe her personality has her gettin all of those thumbs down, just as your’s has you gettin thumbs up; just sayin.

  54. ironmike778 says: Feb 27, 2013 5:38 AM

    Something seriously wrong with this.

  55. thegamecocker says: Feb 27, 2013 8:52 AM

    I’ve been hard at work past couple of days and not able to “play” on these blogs…..let me sum this up IMO: two great colleges offer a young teen with incredible upside a scholarship. This young man attends a prep school where the academics are probably superior to the public schools in his area. And we are throwing stones at one another over this?
    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Maryland needs to find out about whether or not they owe $50 million or something less; Miami doesn’t know what if any sanctions are coming down; the States are about to lose a boat-load of funding; etc. and we are debating the ethics of an offer that could be rescinded at any time…..makes no sense to me. You all make valid points, pro and con….but now it is time to move on. “Can’t we all just get along”?

  56. omniusprime says: Feb 27, 2013 9:02 AM

    This is why Alabummer is the scum of humanity and should be investigated by the NCAA for recruiting violations. Just sick that any college would offer a junior high school kid a scholarship. I hope that kid is a total bust or decides to go somewhere else.

    NCAA Investigate Alabummer!!!

  57. packerbadger says: Feb 27, 2013 9:22 AM

    Well, at least he has the same edjamacation level as the college players down there.

  58. packerbadger says: Feb 27, 2013 9:26 AM

    SEC educational bar is now officially BELOW sea level.

  59. packerbadger says: Feb 27, 2013 9:50 AM

    Deb:
    Not only would I get five thumbs down
    =================================
    You always get more thumbs down.

  60. clemsonstillsucks says: Feb 27, 2013 9:34 PM

    LMFAO. This must be what it was like to cruise on the “Triumph”…not a whole lot to do but sling sh!t at one another.

    Only this one lasts 6 more months…

  61. ravenseattheirownpoop says: Feb 28, 2013 12:30 PM

    Nick Satan is a sleaze ball pos

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