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	<title>Comments on: Irish&#8217;s 2013 jump to ACC won&#8217;t impact football scheduling</title>
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		<title>By: amosalanzostagg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Florida won&#039;t allow FSU into the SEC.

Va Tech brings nothing.

NC and Virginia brings TV market share. I doubt if either team joins the SEC if they have an agreement that Va/VT have to be in the same conference. Same with NC/NC St. I could see the Virginia schools go to the B1G and the North Carolina schools to the SEC.

Everything is contingent upon Notre Dame remaining a member of the the ACC.
With them the ACC survives, without them, it&#039;s every program for itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florida won&#8217;t allow FSU into the SEC.</p>
<p>Va Tech brings nothing.</p>
<p>NC and Virginia brings TV market share. I doubt if either team joins the SEC if they have an agreement that Va/VT have to be in the same conference. Same with NC/NC St. I could see the Virginia schools go to the B1G and the North Carolina schools to the SEC.</p>
<p>Everything is contingent upon Notre Dame remaining a member of the the ACC.<br />
With them the ACC survives, without them, it&#8217;s every program for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: classyjacklambert</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Ajarkoski

So you are saying if the four biggest teams in the ACC decide to leave and join the SEC then the ACC might be in trouble? Excellent deduction there. Now I can&#039;t really understand why the ACC wanted this deal with ND. The ACC basically gave ND everything they want while getting nothing in return. ND IS football. No one really cares about basketball until March.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ajarkoski</p>
<p>So you are saying if the four biggest teams in the ACC decide to leave and join the SEC then the ACC might be in trouble? Excellent deduction there. Now I can&#8217;t really understand why the ACC wanted this deal with ND. The ACC basically gave ND everything they want while getting nothing in return. ND IS football. No one really cares about basketball until March.</p>
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		<title>By: frug</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 05:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to double post, but I will add that ND did approach the Big Ten back in 2003 about a non-FB membership, but the Big Ten immediately rejected the idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to double post, but I will add that ND did approach the Big Ten back in 2003 about a non-FB membership, but the Big Ten immediately rejected the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: frug</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 05:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Deb

ND tried to join the Big 10 a few times in the era of leather helmets, but the most recent attempt was 60 years ago (the spot that ultimately went to MSU). 

Since then the Big Ten has approached the Irish a couple of times, but ND has turned them down (though they were close to joining in both &#039;99 and &#039;10)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Deb</p>
<p>ND tried to join the Big 10 a few times in the era of leather helmets, but the most recent attempt was 60 years ago (the spot that ultimately went to MSU). </p>
<p>Since then the Big Ten has approached the Irish a couple of times, but ND has turned them down (though they were close to joining in both &#8217;99 and &#8217;10)</p>
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		<title>By: ajarkoski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ajarkoski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 04:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@pastabelly, 

You and the ACC might say good riddance to Maryland, but this will set a precedence to the other teams who are watching.  FSU and Vatech might be paking their bags in case the SEC comes calling with their bank roles.  And if the B12 come calling for more teams, Gtech, Clemson, who else will be very tempted.  The left behind teams will not be able to wait to get off the sinking ship.  And if the B1G wants those final 2 teams to get to 16,  ACC teams will line up waiting to be offered!  Where else can a league get halfway decent teams to join them.  It is musical chairs and their are only a few left in the future super 16 leagues.  Then the ACC and the former Big East will merge.  ND will have to join B1G and leave the ACC just like the Big East after it gets picked clean.  Call me crazy,  but this is how I see it playing out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pastabelly, </p>
<p>You and the ACC might say good riddance to Maryland, but this will set a precedence to the other teams who are watching.  FSU and Vatech might be paking their bags in case the SEC comes calling with their bank roles.  And if the B12 come calling for more teams, Gtech, Clemson, who else will be very tempted.  The left behind teams will not be able to wait to get off the sinking ship.  And if the B1G wants those final 2 teams to get to 16,  ACC teams will line up waiting to be offered!  Where else can a league get halfway decent teams to join them.  It is musical chairs and their are only a few left in the future super 16 leagues.  Then the ACC and the former Big East will merge.  ND will have to join B1G and leave the ACC just like the Big East after it gets picked clean.  Call me crazy,  but this is how I see it playing out.</p>
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		<title>By: pastabelly</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pastabelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 02:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only reason Maryland left is that their athletics department is in a financial hole as the result of over expansion of facilities without matching revenues. They&#039;re an outlier whose exit is a speed bump.  If Maryland and Rutgers are the Big 10&#039;s big moves eastward, the ACC will be fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason Maryland left is that their athletics department is in a financial hole as the result of over expansion of facilities without matching revenues. They&#8217;re an outlier whose exit is a speed bump.  If Maryland and Rutgers are the Big 10&#8242;s big moves eastward, the ACC will be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 02:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ttalarico ...

That&#039;s more believable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ttalarico &#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s more believable.</p>
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		<title>By: ttalarico</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 01:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Notre Dame has turned down the Big Ten,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notre Dame has turned down the Big Ten,</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@tampabayirish ...

Notre Dame tried to join the B1G and was rejected? When did that happen? It must have been in the 30s. It&#039;s difficult to imagine a modern-day Big 10 would turn down the financial rewards of an affiliation with Notre Dame. Then again ... for all the bragging B1G fans do about how brilliant their football players are, their conference management clearly runs a few bricks shy of a full load.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tampabayirish &#8230;</p>
<p>Notre Dame tried to join the B1G and was rejected? When did that happen? It must have been in the 30s. It&#8217;s difficult to imagine a modern-day Big 10 would turn down the financial rewards of an affiliation with Notre Dame. Then again &#8230; for all the bragging B1G fans do about how brilliant their football players are, their conference management clearly runs a few bricks shy of a full load.</p>
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		<title>By: tampabayirish</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tampabayirish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see Notre Dame joining the Big 10/11/12 ever. They tried many years ago and were told &quot;no.&quot; There still is a large anti-Catholic bias in Big 10 country even though there are millions of Catholics in the midwest.  Notre Dame may eventually join the ACC in football. Not anytime soon however. It&#039;s amazing that Catholic Notre Dame would join the Baptists in Tobbaco Road instead of the Big 10/11/12. Notre Dame may actually be a better cultural fit for the ACC. The Irish have more in common with Wake Forest, Duke, Virginia, Miami, Georgia Tech and North Carolina than they do with the large, land grant, liberal universities of the Big 10/11/12 other than geography.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see Notre Dame joining the Big 10/11/12 ever. They tried many years ago and were told &#8220;no.&#8221; There still is a large anti-Catholic bias in Big 10 country even though there are millions of Catholics in the midwest.  Notre Dame may eventually join the ACC in football. Not anytime soon however. It&#8217;s amazing that Catholic Notre Dame would join the Baptists in Tobbaco Road instead of the Big 10/11/12. Notre Dame may actually be a better cultural fit for the ACC. The Irish have more in common with Wake Forest, Duke, Virginia, Miami, Georgia Tech and North Carolina than they do with the large, land grant, liberal universities of the Big 10/11/12 other than geography.</p>
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		<title>By: darkbluegarage</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[darkbluegarage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Notre Dame versus Clemson should make for some very fun football to watch.&quot;

YaBaDaBoDo!  Go Tigers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Notre Dame versus Clemson should make for some very fun football to watch.&#8221;</p>
<p>YaBaDaBoDo!  Go Tigers!</p>
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		<title>By: catfanatic1979v1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Notre Dame versus Clemson should make for some very fun football to watch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notre Dame versus Clemson should make for some very fun football to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haven&#039;t had much time lately to check the blogs--saw this headline, assumed (because this is &lt;em&gt;CollegeFootballTalk&lt;/em&gt;) the ND football program had moved to the ACC, and thought the Catholic universe had fully imploded. No offense to the ACC, but Notre Dame&#039;s football program would be a much better fit for the B1G. My interest in their basketball program equals my interest in everyone else&#039;s basketball program: nonexistent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t had much time lately to check the blogs&#8211;saw this headline, assumed (because this is <em>CollegeFootballTalk</em>) the ND football program had moved to the ACC, and thought the Catholic universe had fully imploded. No offense to the ACC, but Notre Dame&#8217;s football program would be a much better fit for the B1G. My interest in their basketball program equals my interest in everyone else&#8217;s basketball program: nonexistent.</p>
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		<title>By: ajarkoski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ajarkoski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[agree Normtide,

The ACC picked almost all of the former Big East schools, with a few left.  So, is Maryland the snowball that starts the next team pillaging of a former pillager.  SEC gets to 16, Big 12 goes for at least 2 (maybe 6 to match the SEC) and the Big Ten needs two more if Conneticutor or Cincy doesn&#039;t fill their need.  The ACC is  just not the top predator and their fate lies in the hands of the  bug leagues.  I see ND finally moving to the Big Ten, just don&#039;t know how long that will come to fruition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree Normtide,</p>
<p>The ACC picked almost all of the former Big East schools, with a few left.  So, is Maryland the snowball that starts the next team pillaging of a former pillager.  SEC gets to 16, Big 12 goes for at least 2 (maybe 6 to match the SEC) and the Big Ten needs two more if Conneticutor or Cincy doesn&#8217;t fill their need.  The ACC is  just not the top predator and their fate lies in the hands of the  bug leagues.  I see ND finally moving to the Big Ten, just don&#8217;t know how long that will come to fruition.</p>
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		<title>By: acieu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[acieu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Irish should also join in Football the ACC needs another doormat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Irish should also join in Football the ACC needs another doormat.</p>
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		<title>By: darkbluegarage</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[darkbluegarage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Notre Dame people/fans think of themselves as some sort of premadonna&#039;s, too good to be part of a conference like other college teams.  This is one reason so many college football despise them.

Then there are the special rules written into the BCS just so they can compeat!  Another reason they have so many haters.

These issues are so obvious to everyone who is not a ND fan.  Jack Swarbucks needs to take his blinders off and become a full fledged member of a conference.  The BCS will be gone soon along with the &quot;special exceptions&quot; maybe then the rest of the college football will start to have a little respect for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notre Dame people/fans think of themselves as some sort of premadonna&#8217;s, too good to be part of a conference like other college teams.  This is one reason so many college football despise them.</p>
<p>Then there are the special rules written into the BCS just so they can compeat!  Another reason they have so many haters.</p>
<p>These issues are so obvious to everyone who is not a ND fan.  Jack Swarbucks needs to take his blinders off and become a full fledged member of a conference.  The BCS will be gone soon along with the &#8220;special exceptions&#8221; maybe then the rest of the college football will start to have a little respect for them.</p>
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		<title>By: normtide</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[normtide]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ND can&#039;t save the ACC. Its fate comes down to two things: How much does Maryland pay to leave. And, the decisions made by the B1G. Delaney is driving expansion, he holds the ACC&#039;s fate more then anything else. In fact, the ND partnership may hurt the ACC. I think the B1G has beef with ND, and could crush the ACC to try and force the Irish to actually join a league. Maybe that won&#039;t drive it, but its a check in the pro column. Also, adding the Irish does little to appease the football schools. Power still resides in NC, and it&#039;s still a basketball league. ND retains the rights to it&#039;s home games, so I don&#039;t see it bringing the ACC a loaf of cash. Not enough to bridge the gap to the mega 4 leagues. 

A partnership with the SEC or big 12 is the only shot for the ACC to keep it&#039;s status quo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ND can&#8217;t save the ACC. Its fate comes down to two things: How much does Maryland pay to leave. And, the decisions made by the B1G. Delaney is driving expansion, he holds the ACC&#8217;s fate more then anything else. In fact, the ND partnership may hurt the ACC. I think the B1G has beef with ND, and could crush the ACC to try and force the Irish to actually join a league. Maybe that won&#8217;t drive it, but its a check in the pro column. Also, adding the Irish does little to appease the football schools. Power still resides in NC, and it&#8217;s still a basketball league. ND retains the rights to it&#8217;s home games, so I don&#8217;t see it bringing the ACC a loaf of cash. Not enough to bridge the gap to the mega 4 leagues. </p>
<p>A partnership with the SEC or big 12 is the only shot for the ACC to keep it&#8217;s status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: parkcityute</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ttalarico: Your point well taken...I will answer for the slow....None!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ttalarico: Your point well taken&#8230;I will answer for the slow&#8230;.None!</p>
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		<title>By: ttalarico</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ttalarico]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Duke

I don&#039;t understand your statement.

What decision does ND have to make?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Duke</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand your statement.</p>
<p>What decision does ND have to make?</p>
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		<title>By: Duke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Duke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ACC is going to live or die based on Notre Dame&#039;s decision.  It is quite a gamble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACC is going to live or die based on Notre Dame&#8217;s decision.  It is quite a gamble.</p>
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		<title>By: sanduskyshowerboy</title>
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