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Report: S. Miss., SEC schools are transfer no-no’s for Wes Lunt

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We don’t yet know to where Wes Lunt will transfer, but we do know where it won’t be.  Reportedly.

According to Jeremy Fowler of CBSSports.com, Oklahoma State is restricting the quarterback from transferring to Southern Miss as well as any SEC school.  Such restrictions would severely limit desirable destinations for Lunt as he had been considering five schools; three of them — Southern Miss, Tennessee and Vanderbilt — are now off-limits because of his former school in general and his ex-coach specifically.

Still on Lunt’s radar are Illinois and Louisville.  Lunt either has or will in very short order visit the Illini, who are currently considered the front-runners by default.

A school spokesperson confirmed the head-scratching restrictions to Fowler, and stated it was between OSU head coach Mike Gundy and Lunt when asked why the player would not be released to that set of schools.  It’s unclear why Gundy — ya know, the “I’m a man, I’m 40″ rant guy when it came to defending one his players from the sharp barbs of the mean ol’ media — placed such restrictions on Lunt.

The Southern Miss football program is now headed by Todd Monken, who served as Gundy’s offensive coordinator in 2011 and 2012; the Cowboys and Golden Eagles are not slated to face each other during the regular season at any point over the next nine years.  After sitting out the 2013 season to satisfy NCAA transfer rules, Lunt will have three years of eligibility remaining; the only SEC school Oklahoma State will face in the regular season during that four-year timeframe is Mississippi State in 2013.

Ironically, Gundy spoke to at least two different schools this offseason about their head coaching vacancies, and would’ve been free to move to those programs without restriction.  The two schools he’s known to have spoken with about their openings?  Arkansas and Tennessee, both members of the SEC.

Excellent work, Coach Gundy.  You and your university and T. Boone should be very proud of the pettiness and double-standards on full display.  Stay classy, Stillwater.

UPDATED 6:26 p.m. ET: According to Zach Kerker, sports director at 1450 in Springfield, Ill., Lunt’s high school coach stated that his former player is also restricted from transferring to Pac-12 schools as well as Central Michigan (on OSU’s non-conference schedule in 2015 & 2016).  The reason behind the restrictions?  “They could play in bowl games,” the coach said.

Pitiful.  Absolutely pitiful situation.

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27 Responses to “Report: S. Miss., SEC schools are transfer no-no’s for Wes Lunt”
  1. barnesaintnoble says: May 17, 2013 6:21 PM

    This just confirms that the whole “I’m a man, I’m 40″ rant was just an act. It actually ended up hurting Bobby Reid in the long run, which a lot of people don’t remember. He really doesn’t care about what’s best for his players, just himself. If they have to sit out one year, it doesn’t make sense that some ego maniac coach can place a restriction on where you can go.

    There has to be a loophole through this rule. Maybe if the player purposely get’s kicked off his original team/has his scholarship revoked, he would be free to “walk on” and “earn” a scholarship anywhere?

  2. overratedgators says: May 17, 2013 6:50 PM

    Total bullshit. This is the kid’s education and potential career at stake. Let him go where he wants.

  3. tuscaloosaguy says: May 17, 2013 7:26 PM

    Sit out a year don’t attend school

  4. turfrage says: May 17, 2013 8:04 PM

    This coach needs to get over himself, get a life. The kid sat out his required year. He’s earned the right to play somewhere better. If he couldn’t handle coaching against him in a bowl game sure doesn’t say much for his coaching abilities. NCAA needs to stop this self-centered control freak.

  5. barbeaux says: May 17, 2013 8:10 PM

    This would only be right if the contracts for coaches had off limits clauses as well.

  6. raysfan1 says: May 17, 2013 8:42 PM

    I’ve said it before–this kind of thing is weak, petty, and fodder for the recruiter of every school interested in any athlete that OK State is also.

  7. normtide says: May 17, 2013 9:21 PM

    Seems like the SEC has a certain 40 (+) year old coach tied on knots. Being an SEC fan, I love it. Being the source of so many nightmares to all these ‘ultra macho’ coaches.

    SEC SEC SEC SEC!!!!

  8. dsharpe8 says: May 17, 2013 9:35 PM

    College sports has got to be the one of the worst in terms of the way it’s ran. Coaches can leave without penalty, but players who ask for a release are blocked from going elsewhere because of bullish!t excuses by the coaches… The NCAA are some of the biggest hypocrites there is…

  9. jkulha86 says: May 17, 2013 10:16 PM

    A kid signs a LOI to attend a school, which is similar to a contract, and a coach a signs a contract for a certain amount of years. So these kids have to sit out a year, and have restrictions on where they can go if they want to leave. But a head coach or any coach can pick up and leave at anytime without any restrictions. Just doesn’t make sense.

  10. normtide says: May 17, 2013 10:32 PM

    Is it fair? No. But, when your favorite teams star decided to transfer to LSU, Florida, USC, or Bama just to try and win a title, what would you say then? Look at how PSU fans reacted when their star RB took off for USC. Look at the backlash at the Miami heat after they signed Lebron and Bosch. Players are just that, playing a game. Coaching is a job. Would you like restrictions on your choice to find a new job? Its not fair, but then again, what is? People sound like school children, looking for fairness in an unforgiving world. Most students have to pay for an education, because they weren’t born with athletic ability. What’s next? Fairness imposed free educations? But then, would it be fair for everyone to pay for others education through taxes? When you find a fair system, that is even got everyone, send it to me. Until then, grow a pair and face the world how it is.

  11. cranespy says: May 17, 2013 11:35 PM

    Way to go Gundy…..try telling the world you’re a Man now. More like a selfish child…..no way T Boone allows this type of immature behavior. He should can you and then put restrictions on who could hire you. Pitiful.

  12. barbeaux says: May 17, 2013 11:46 PM

    @normtide, so if a hurricane hits and gas stations decide to sell gas at $80 a gallon then that’s okay because the world isn’t fair. Would you “grow a pair” and pony up the $80 a gallon? See, at its root this isnt a matter of fairness. fairness is an ancillary description. it’s a matter of right and wrong. Is it right to restrict players while at the same time not restricting coaches? both have major impacts on teams. Who cares where a kid transfers if he doesn’t win the starting job? Teams over sign to the detriment of players. That’s not right.

  13. normtide says: May 18, 2013 12:23 AM

    The difference us, price gouging is illegal. As for over signing, that’s a simple fix. A recruit need only check Web sights, if you think your school is over, change your commitment. The recruiting season is a long one. Of course, you run the risk if a fan base blasting you, or maybe having your ‘chest’ questioned. At the end of the day, this is a free market. If the NCAA disgusts you, hit them in the pocket. Stop watching, spending money, and posting about anything NCAA related.

    These kids get a free education, and hopefully a spend soon. I don’t see where their lives are so awful.

    I have seen how some fan bases reacted to a former coach going to a rival, have to think if was their star player, it would be worse. Death threats, burning effigy, etc.

    Its simple, if I go to a restaurant and hate the food or service, I don’t go back. I don’t show up just to complain everyday.

  14. overratedgators says: May 18, 2013 12:41 AM

    Sounds like it’s not just the SEC that has his panties in a bunch – it’s the PAC-12 and Central Michigan too. Asinine. Now he’s basically told the kid he can transfer, but he’s taken almost 30 FBS schools off the table.

    Normtide, fans have a right to be upset when they lose a talented kid to a rival team – they just don’t (IMO, anyway) have any legitimate right to get in the way of that move. If a pro player has fulfilled or bought his way out of his current contract – or in this case, a kid has already followed the requisite process to transfer – I just don’t think petty adults (whether a coach, pissed off booster, or pissed off fanbase) should be permitted to stand in the way.

  15. normtide says: May 18, 2013 12:52 AM

    I don’t agree with all of Gundy’s restrictions myself. I think a coach should be able to restrict certain schools, in league our rivals. There are play books and schemes to be protected. Also, some behind the scenes collusion.

    People act like these kids are abused in some way. They have it pretty good. As far as I know, Teo is the only college football player that can’t get a woman. Imagine your college experience, but your pretty much a rock star at the time. I for one love college football, its by far my favorite sport. I don’t understand why so many people watch something they hate. Like I said, stop making them money, and maybe things will change.

  16. bigmeechy74 says: May 18, 2013 9:25 AM

    Im a die hard OSU fan since I was a little kid. I was in 8th grade when Barry Sanders won the heisman and Mike Gundy was the record setting big 8 QB. I suffered through watching them lose to ou every year from age 2 until my early 20′s. so kindergarten through 12 we never beat them. I still loved them. Then I cried when we lost in the final 4 at the buzzer in basketball in 2004. All that being said, GUNDY IS SUCH AN ***HOLE!!!! I’m not one of those people who will defend their favorite team’s coach no matter what (ahem, Penn St….) I am embarrassed by this.

  17. ningenito78 says: May 18, 2013 10:01 AM

    @normtide you are lost. The old ‘Life ain’t fair so get over it!’ line is just a stupid cliche. The idea that a coach can put restrictions in where a kid can go when he decides he doesn’t want to play for a COLLEGE anymore is ludicrous. The problem with your little Miami Heat comparison is that those guys are PROFESSIONALS. College kids are not pros. I can understand not allowing them to transfer in-conference to a point. But if a kid wants to transfer to a school that isn’t even on your freaking schedule for the next 9 years there is no f–king way to justify that. None. Even with your cheesy, overplayed ‘well life ain’t fair’ logic.

  18. normtide says: May 18, 2013 12:49 PM

    Trust me, you do not want free agency in college football.

    Sometimes you have to put on your big boy pants and tough it out. Not wait for someone to come along and make it fair. Be a man, an adult, and overcome.

  19. speedy138 says: May 18, 2013 1:48 PM

    total bullshit!!! So the coach can go to any school he wants but this 19 year old kid is limited to where he can go!! Great job NCAA you hold kids to higher standards than “40″ year old men!!

  20. barnesaintnoble says: May 18, 2013 2:55 PM

    This isn’t about free agency in college, being an adult, fairness, etc. This is about a coach with an ego who is basically trying to show a kid who’s boss. He could go to Southern Miss and not miss a beat. That would be a win-win for Lunt and Monken-S-Miss. I can’t imagine Monken is too happy with his former boss.

    At the end of the day, Lunt does have plenty of options at the FBS and FCS level and will be fine. This story is more about what kind of coach Gundy is. I hope this story makes the rounds and turns into negative recruiting fuel for OSU’s rivals. He’s risking future OSU recruits being potentially turned off by this situation just to irk a player who is leaving.

  21. barbeaux says: May 19, 2013 12:12 AM

    @normtide, lol…big boy pants. Do you have any basis for your arguments that aren’t clichés? So, he’s not the starter at the school…why would they worry about him going to another team? Don’t feed that bull about ins and outs of game plans. Everyone knows that Saban is going to pound the ball down your throat. West Virginia is going to throw, throw, throw. Etc etc etc. “Free agency” won’t kill the ncaa. Greed and unfairness will.

  22. normtide says: May 19, 2013 12:30 AM

    First of all, I do think Gundy went to far.

    There is a reason these ‘old sayings’ stick around. They are usually relevant. All Penn State fans if free agency is a good idea. And yes, knowing play calls, signs, and other info IS a huge deal. Free agency in college football would devalue the academic side and shake the core of what makes it great. Its not the NFL. CFB us about Alma mater and state, city, and region pride.

    I’m all for a player stipend, but aside from that, they players have a pretty awesome deal already. I’m always amazed by the number of people who feel sorry for college football players at major programs. Life is really pretty sweet for them.

  23. raysfan1 says: May 19, 2013 12:10 PM

    @normtide,
    I’m glad you agree Gundy went too far. With that, I will agree that knowing calls, signs, etc is a big deal. For that reason, I’ve never criticized a coach restricting a player from transferring to a school on the current year’s schedule. Gundy went way past that, however, completely eliminating conferences over the possibility of facing one team in a bowl. That is completely lame and makes it look like he’s vindictively thwarting a kid’s chance to play ball. You can bet that is how the recruiters for other schools will portray him.

  24. noring4youstill says: May 19, 2013 8:59 PM

    What a crock of chit

  25. barbeaux says: May 20, 2013 12:01 AM

    @normtide, I lived with college football players in college. Their lives aren’t all like Manziel’s since his family is wealthy. “Non-profit” bowls make way too inch money off these kids. As do the conferences and schools via media rights. Do you mean to day that schools don’t evolve or switch their game calling etc year in year out? That’s idiotic. I’d be willing to bet every team switches it up year in and year out. Otherwise, they’re setting themselves up for failure. He’ll, ever coaching programs invite other programs in for observations and knowledge-shares. Restricting this kid just is not right. There’s no way of saying otherwise.

  26. normtide says: May 20, 2013 8:14 AM

    So you think a program changes everything over the summer? There is a reason most coaches don’t want kids transferring in league or to rivals. So you can honestly tell me that you and your fan base would have no problem if a star transfers from LSU to Bama? Don’t be delusional. I’ve seen how you reacted to a coach taking the Bama job. Hell, I have the reaction to a player changing a commitment. Free agency would have horrible effects. More so on mid level teams. You do understand the need for depth on a football team, don’t you? It sounds like you would concentrate on the NFL game.

    As for your ‘roommates’ who played football, but had an awful college experience, I dare say, they were doing it wrong. A lot of college kids are broke. Many actually pay their own way. For the football player, he has two options. One, get a free education at a large school, or two, move on to the NFL. Both are better then graduating with $200k of debt. If a player doesn’t at least make the most of option one, then that’s on them. I shed no tears for anyone who doesn’t make the most of that free education.

  27. florida727 says: May 20, 2013 12:56 PM

    I’m not a fan of a litigious society running amuck but I’d be very in favor of this kid suing OK State and Gundy personally (I know, he’s protected by his association with the university… but you could make his life a little more uncomfortable :) ) for “restraint of trade”. As others have said, it’s his career, his education, his future, that’s on the line here. You’re going to restrict that on the off-chance that you might have to play against him in a bowl game? Seriously? There’s got to be someone out there with more of a legal background than I have that can shed some light on this kid’s legal recourse.

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