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A&M president: Texas is ‘not relevant to us anymore’


Texas and Texas A&M aren’t playing rivals on the field, but they still resemble rivals away from it. Even if one or both of ’em tries not to.

Case in point, A&M president R. Bowen Loftin. Asked at SEC meetings if he had any remark about Texas, Loftin (pictured right) replied “I don’t have to make it anymore. It’s not relevant to us anymore, that’s the whole point. It’s not an important issue.”

If nothing else, Loftin’s remark is a bit of a departure from A&M’s previous stance. The Aggies have made no secret about wanting to continue playing Texas even though the two are no longer in the same conference. Texas has been less receptive to the idea.

Barring a sudden change, this rivalry, unfortunately, looks like it’ll be dormant for the foreseeable future. That’s a shame, because surely there will be plenty of interested folks on both sides if/when a series is resumed.

(Hat tip: Dallas Morning News) 

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64 Responses to “A&M president: Texas is ‘not relevant to us anymore’”
  1. be4bama says: May 31, 2013 10:12 PM

    TAMU is no longer Texas’ little brother. Roll Aggies Roll!!

  2. bender4700 says: May 31, 2013 10:16 PM

    Funny how weak Texas looks now that all they have left is OU (who seems to want to leave them more everyday), T-Tech, TCU, and Okie State. Compared to how strong of a position they had for awhile there. Losing Nebraska and A&M really weakened their position.

    For a couple years there they were practically ready to take over the Pac-12. Not even sure they’d be welcome in the SEC as it is.

  3. thefiesty1 says: May 31, 2013 11:52 PM

    UT doesn’t care as long as DeLoss is bringing in the big bucks. TAMU can take-flying leap. Oops, they already did.

  4. paulhart28 says: Jun 1, 2013 12:04 AM

    @b4bama No the aggies are still the longhorns little brother. One year doesn’t change that fact. \m/

  5. goodfieldnohit says: Jun 1, 2013 12:12 AM

    Great picture Ben. You work all night for that one?

    Fact remains, University of DeLoss can’t get their games on real TV, and A&M doesn’t give a shit about them anymore.

  6. texas1n9hrn says: Jun 1, 2013 12:12 AM

    The Big 12 looks real weak? 9 of the 10 teams went to a bowl game last year (the went 4 of 5).

    How can anybody talk about the conference and leave out Kansas State, the conference champion, OR Baylor (home of Heisman winning QB RG III)??

    A&M is so OBSESSED with the Texas Longhorns that they now claim 3 national championships in football (two are RETROACTIVE), in order to compete with Texas four AP Titles. Ags are over 70 years removed from their last national championship and haven’t won a conference title since 1998.

    Until A&M wins the SEC, what have they produced other than the big win over Alabama?

  7. 23chameleons says: Jun 1, 2013 12:32 AM

    It’s not out of the question that A&M becomes more of a powerhouse in recruiting and the BCS to make UT the bridesmaids. Let’s see what Father Time has to say …

  8. mikefoxtrottango says: Jun 1, 2013 12:39 AM

    “Until A&M wins the SEC, what have they produced other than the big win over Alabama?”

    -Boat raced your mighty conference co-champ in the Cotton Bowl (you know, the same team that beat Texas by 6 TDs)
    -Won the Heisman Trophy
    -Won the Outland Trophy
    -Won the Davey O’Brien Award
    -Won 11 games
    -Finished 5th in the country

    Give Texas A&M a break. It took them a whole season to do all this.

    “9 of the 10 teams went to a bowl game last year (the went 4 of 5)”

    No. The Big 12 was 4 AND 5. Not 4 OF 5. You’re embarrassing your school.

    Please stop typing.

  9. barnesaintnoble says: Jun 1, 2013 12:47 AM

    Texas might be the flagship school of the state and has had more success/tradition in football, but A&M has never been too far behind. High school football talent has been so good in Texas that makes sense. A&M made a risky move to the SEC, the best conference in football, and their first season was a huge success. “Just one season” you say? That is 12 new teams they had no previous scouting on. Most teams have 3 new opponents in the nonconference, usually of a lower level. A win on the road at the eventual national champion. A first year coach in Sumlin. The first freshman QB to ever win the Heisman.

    I’m not even an A&M fan, but you have GOT to be impressed with what they did last season. It projects well to their future. It does not, however, project well for UT’s status as the #1 football school in their state.

  10. barnesaintnoble says: Jun 1, 2013 12:54 AM

    Well said, mikefoxtrottango, well said.

  11. hoopsvader says: Jun 1, 2013 1:01 AM

    I would imagine that Sumlin will bring in the better Texas recruits by selling them on playing in the SEC vs Saban and Miles. You can’t sell the Big 12 with playing against guys like Big Time Choker Bob Stoops.

  12. normtide says: Jun 1, 2013 1:21 AM

    Texas A&M is a rocketing upward right now. The SEC sells itself in recruiting. The titles, players drafted, the coaching, the competition. Combine that with the recruits the state of Texas provides, and things are bright. Not to mention stringing areas like Louisiana . But, you can’t understate Texas potential. In my personal opinion, they are only a head coach away from getting back on it’s feet. Could get interesting the next few years

  13. bender4700 says: Jun 1, 2013 1:49 AM

    Nobody said the Big XII was weak.

    Texas is not as strong as they were before Nebraska left, followed by A&M.

    At one point Texas held all the cards for conference expansion and shift. Now?

    They can only decide the fate of the Big XII. The SEC was in limbo, the B1G, the Big East, ACC, and Pac-12 were all waiting for someone to take the first step.

    Now, Texas has only the option of the Pac-12, because it’s not likely SEC nor B1G care to have them join since they already both have so much $ as it is and considering the drama that comes with mixing Texas with B1G culture, or undercutting A&M by allowing Texas to follow them. Not likely. ACC would be a step down for Texas. Big XII is 3rd/4th on the power scale. Has less to do with wins/losses and more to do with influence. B1G and the SEC are running college football. Despite the B1G’s on the field struggles, still the main discussion. The SEC is clearly competitively running the show.

    Texas is an after thought, the fact they are not winning hurts them that much more. The Longhorn Networks underwhelming debut really demonstrated that Texas only thought they were a national powerhouse. Instead, like EACH and ever other big program, they were a regional powerhouse. B1G network works so well because you cover the entire midwest and a big chunk of the north east coast. The SEC Net will work because it covers the entire south. Longhorn Network covers 1 of several major schools in Texas. And American is so well known for just loving Texas and it’s cocky attitude.

    So again, Texas is not as strong influentially as they were 4 years ago.

    To the other debate:
    Texas A&M is NOT their little brother. There’s no basis to that claim. They went to a better conference, and won the Heisman, made an impact, and will only get better. Texas can either follow A&M which would be a total role reversal, or run away to the west, a PAC-16 shift would look like Texas is putting distance between them and the SEC.

    Face it longhorn fans, you took for granted a great program, they said screw you and left. Now you have Oklahoma who just despises you, and does beat you, and a bunch of other hanger ons. Texas really played the conference shift horribly. Instead of being the key to all change, they sat there and lost two key conference members. Could have owned the Pac-12, could have stepped into the SEC possibly, and actually before Nebraska popped up, could have been a B1G team which would have been a major shift. Instead, they got West Virgina. Oh and TCU, that’s cool I guess.

  14. rsmeans says: Jun 1, 2013 4:57 AM

    Texas used to be the top football school in the state. Now clearly TAM is the Big Brother and Texas is the little distant cousin who is declining in a declining conference. TAM is just beginning to own the recruiting in the state and other SEC teams not Texas will eventually be their only competition. I am not a TAM fan but an Alabama fan.

  15. alligatorsnapper says: Jun 1, 2013 7:36 AM

    I work with both Longhorns and Aggies in the petroleum industry. They all are great guys and we have one another’s backs. Aggies have waited a long time to get out of UT’s shadow. They are now out in the sunshine in the SEC. UT is languishing, as they have now for about a decade. If Mack Brown would retire already, things could change for the Longhorns quickly.

    I wish the Aggies the best of success all season, except when they come to Baton Rouge. Keep in mind, we have a coach who repels from 24 story buildings! ha. Go Miles Go!

  16. jimbo75025 says: Jun 1, 2013 8:07 AM

    While I am an SEC fan who was impressed by what A&M did last season, lets wait a few more years before trumpeting the ultimate downfall of Texas.

    If A&M does well this year, the NFL may start sniffing around Sumlin, so lets see what happens there.

    Texas would also get a shot in the arm by replacing Mack Brown who has done less with more talent than anyone with the possible exception of Lane Kiffin.

  17. classyjacklambert says: Jun 1, 2013 8:42 AM

    Texas just sucks. I don’t mean the university, I mean the state in general.

  18. 13datsyuk13 says: Jun 1, 2013 10:01 AM

    Let’s wait and see what happens now that Saban and Miles are ready for A&M. One good surprise year doesn’t scratch Texas off the map. Manziel will not win another Heisman and will rush to the nfl where he will Tebow it up for a few years (remember how that ended?).

  19. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 1, 2013 10:44 AM

    From reading the posts, an astute body of thinkers, (except classyjacklambert).

    I have no dog in the fight, just decades of intercollegiate experience with Universities and Conferences. Texas overplayed it’s hand, big time.

    Sure, The Big 12 and the SEC have record revenues this year to share among it’s member schools. It’s the future that the Big 12 has to look toward. Madison Avenue
    views the Big 12 as two schools, Texas and Oklahoma. Sorry Baylor, Tech, TCU at al, but Madison Avenue views you as chattel.

    Texas sought admission into the B1G, the PAC-12, and the ACC. Texas failed.

    Now Deloss has a boutique conference in which Texas SHOULD dominate in all sports in order to provide product to the LHN. LHN is not going to be the end all for Texas. Non conference football games against Wyoming is not what the consuming public wants.

    The Big 12 exists at Texas’s pleasure. If Deloss sees that he can make more money with another conference move AND he decides that the LHN isn’t worth it, PAC-12
    here he comes, probably along with the Kansas schools and BYU.

    Enjoy college football now because these are the good ole days.


  20. deadeye says: Jun 1, 2013 11:02 AM

    The BIG12 is in long-term danger.

    The loss of Nebraska, TAMU, Colorado, and Mizzou weakened the conference greatly. The addition of TCU and WVU has kept is alive.

    But if TAMU really takes off and continues their success, UT might be forced down the road to apply for SEC membership to regain their dominant position within Texas. And OU would be sure to follow UT.

    None of this could happen until the GOR gets close to running out though.

  21. georgebushsucks says: Jun 1, 2013 12:22 PM

    Yawn. The two programs have met a total of 117 times, including 63 times on Thanksgiving (UT leads the series 75-37-5). Both schools make note of the rivalry in their fight songs, and the annual matchup has spawned elaborate pre-game traditions such as Aggie Bonfire and Texas’ Hex Rally.

  22. georgebushsucks says: Jun 1, 2013 12:23 PM

    I will never forget when Texas scored 4 times on the aggies in the first 15 minutes one Thanksgiving before the aggies scored once.

  23. texas1n9hrn says: Jun 1, 2013 12:27 PM

    Bragging about finishing 5th in the country? Wow. What have things come to.

    No Conference Championship? What? Not even in the Game??

    A&M has a great record against UT. They have won what 37 games and lost 76? Easy to talk now that you don’t have the big loss to look forward? How is it even a rivalry when you lose twice for every win?

    Hell, they didn’t even win the last one at Kyle Field with basically the same team that rolled through the SEsleaze?

    Under Coach Sherman aggies were masters of disaster. They blew big leads against average teams on a regular basis.

    I think Kevin Sumlin is a massively talented coach, but if you don’t think he is going to wind up in the NFL in a couple of years (like Chip Kelly) you guys are high.

  24. jpaggie2010 says: Jun 1, 2013 12:44 PM

    College football is very much a “what have you done lately” league. A&M had a fantastic season in the best conference and Texas ripped off a rousing 9 wins in the Bevo 10. But it’s one year, lets finish the big brother little brother debate in 5.
    People on here seem to think that Texas has the option of joining the SEC? Besides Alabama and Tennessee, multiple team states will simply not happen in the SEC ever again. Just ask Clemson, Florida State. The Texas SEC market was cornered by A&M. The SEC has very little incentive to add Texas and it will never happen.

  25. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 1, 2013 12:55 PM


    Texas had it’s chance in 1986 to leave to the SEC. The Texas legislature said no.

    Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are tied at the hip by the Oklahoma Legislature. If OU goes to another conference, OSU has to go with them.

    As for the SEC extending an invitation to Texas, there are seven schools that have already said “Hell no!” Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas A&M, both Mississippi schools and Auburn are on record as not wanting Texas in the conference.


    Two reasons.

    (1.) The SEC already has what it wants, (Texas A&M)a quality program with a large alumni base that brings TV markets to the SEC.,

    (2.) No conference wants Texas. University Presidents and Chancellors know
    what Texas is, and they want no part of the Diva that Deloss Dodds and Bill
    Powers are. Texas wants it’s way on everything, from Athletics to Research Grants to Conference Administration.

    B1G Presidents and Chancellors saw first hand when Texas approached the B1G
    for membership. Why? The B1G was showing a marked increase in private research dollars across the board for their respective schools and the Administrators saw that Texas was looking for a way to “piggyback” on all the hard work that the B1G hard done and the results they had earned. The B1G said
    politely “No, Thanks!”

    Fast forward a couple of years when Texas tries to bolt to the PAC-12 by taking
    OU, OSU and TT with them. PAC-12 Presidents and Chancellors said “No, thanks”
    to OSU and TT based on academics. Yet when asked by the PAC-12 to subordinate
    the LHN to the PAC-12 procedures and guidelines for the duration of the ESPN contract, Bill Powers said he would have to get back with Deloss Dodds. There has
    no response since.

    When Texas sought admission to the ACC and the conference said “No”, what does Texas try to do?, poach Clemson and Florida State to the Big 12. FSU Faculty,
    Administrators and Athletics were rather adamant that they wanted nothing to do
    with Texas nor the Big 12. Why? Academics. The Big 12 is viewed as having poor

    Three conferences, three strikeouts.

    The SEC doesn’t want nor need the University of Texas.

    We already have OUR Texas school.


  26. crange71 says: Jun 1, 2013 2:43 PM

    Texas looks weak because a&m and nebraska left?? Ya, cause those two schools really tore the Big 12 up! Give me a break! Adding TCU and WV were huge upgrades over the aggs and huskers! Baylor is a contender, K-State and Okie State were both one game away from going to the National championship the last two years. But hey congrats aggs, a Cotton Bowl victory, awesome!

  27. Romulus says: Jun 1, 2013 2:45 PM

    A&M has one good year with Arkansas and Auburn down, LSU and Florida home losses, and an upset in Tusaclooser. Big deal. We all know that the SEC year in and year out is what determines the program.

  28. deadeye says: Jun 1, 2013 2:45 PM


    I hear ya, UT has a level of arrogance that does turn people off. But remember that prior to the USC and Arkansas invitations, the SEC invited UT and TAMU into the conference. The Gamecocks and Razorbacks were plan B to the Longhorns and Aggies.

    I truly believe that if the Longhorns were willing to join the SEC, it would be a 13-1 vote in favor of taking them. UT easily has one of the top national followings and they rival Notre Dame in overall brand appeal.

    Another factor to consider in the long term is the possible decline or demise of the cable television. If a la cart becomes law, and cable based networks lose revenue as a result, conferences will rely upon internet streaming to deliver content. Once that happens, in-state teams like FSU, Clemson, GT, and UT will no longer put a crimp in potential revenue. The SEC would be strictly interested in the quality of the universities. FSU and UT would be a lock for SEC acceptance under that scenario.

  29. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 1, 2013 3:09 PM


    Texas and FSU are DOA. Florida and Georgia would block FSU admission and Texas doesn’t have the votes and will never have the votes, period.

    Texas had it’s chance in 1986. A&M was never extended. Arkansas under Frank Broyles initiated the move to the SEC and South Carolina was an acceptable alternate to Clemson to balance out the SEC.

    There will be no 13-1 vote. Alabama, LSU Arkansas, Auburn, Missouri, Texas A&M and both Mississippi schools are on record saying no to Texas. That is eight schools.
    Texas would need 10 yes votes.

    If the SEC would expand to 16 teams, OU and OSU make the most sense since OU could not move to another conference without OSU. That will not happen unless
    Texas decides to go independent and then moves to a conference in order to void
    the TV rights remaining with the Big 12. Texas has to have the Big 12 go away in order in make any conference move and Texas regaining their TV rights.

    Wait to see what the SEC Network brings to the table with it’s debut.


  30. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 1, 2013 3:17 PM


    What was the score of the OU/Texas game last October?

    What was the score of the Big 12 Co-champions in this year’s Cotton Bowl game? A&M was the fifth best team in the SEC last fall, they have always had the talent, now they have a coach.

    Has Texas even recovered from the last time we played them?


  31. crange71 says: Jun 1, 2013 3:51 PM

    I’m pretty sure last time Texas played A&M at Kyle field the aggies walked off the field losers……again.

  32. coolhorn46 says: Jun 1, 2013 4:04 PM

    The move to the SEC by agricultural has been a success so far, and bless ’em. The hiring of Sumlin was a good move to. No doubt, the future’s so bright the farmers’ gotta wear shades.

    That being said, it is silly for anybody to be writing UT’s epitaph, or for that matter, the Big XII’s. I seriously doubt the SEC would have partnered up with the Big XII in bowl business if they thought it was going out of business anytime soon. The loss of Nebraska, more than anyone else, did hurt, but there are still plenty of good, and improving teams in the Big XII and it will hold its’ own on the field against anyone.

    It’s also pretty premature to say UT wouldn’t be welcome anywhere but the PAC or Big XII. UT is still one of th e biggest brand names in college athletics, and IF UT showed interest in a move to any other conference, that conference would be foolish not to listen. That won’t change in the near future. However, UT appears to be happy staying right where it is, and so does OU. Those two programs give the Big XII all the clout it needs going forward, although several conference programs are improving in facilities and performance by leaps and bounds.

    Fans of the agricultural school, be happy with your newfound success. UT is in your rearview mirror, something that should make both of us happy. If the two schools play again in a couple of decades, so be it, but right now, the divorce appears to be a good thing all the way around. The bowtie was accurate in his statement, whether he intended it tongue in cheek or not.

  33. goodfieldnohit says: Jun 1, 2013 4:27 PM

    Coolhorn –

    You do know that A&M is no longer a cow college, and hasn’t been, since oh, about 1967.

    It’s cute that you refer to us as ‘agricultural’. I assume you mean that as some kind of a derogatory phrase. Oh, and enjoy your annual gang rapes at the hands of OU.

  34. texasmafia1 says: Jun 1, 2013 4:39 PM

    would someone tell me why a&m has all male cheerleaders? and the reason they and nebraska corn holes left the big 12 IS THEY GOT TIRED OF GETTING THAT ASS WHIPPED BY THE HORNS!!! i quess maybe it should be GO GAY&M GIGGEM FAGGIES !!!!! HAVE A NICE DAY………….

  35. mikefoxtrottango says: Jun 1, 2013 4:57 PM

    You’re a disgrace to your G.E.D.

  36. 8to80texansblog says: Jun 1, 2013 5:54 PM

    I don’t care what Loftin says… As an Aggie, there will always be a rivalry with Texas. The A&M v Texas rivalry is the 3rd most played rivalry game in NCAA history.

    Aggies need to chill out with the superiority complex that we’ve rapidly developed. It was one great year. We accomplished a lot. The tide does seem to be turning, but let’s enjoy this while its here and stop anointing ourselves the new kings of college football.

    Texas is a great program, and I seriously hope the DeLoss Dodds will swallow his pride and get out of the way of a rivalry that dates back to the 1800’s.

  37. wildcat1100 says: Jun 1, 2013 5:56 PM

    Why does it always feel like Aggies are compensating for a lack-of-something? If Texas A&M were a person, he’d have a jacked up maroon truck with chrome rims and a bumper sticker of a kid pissing on a Longhorn.

  38. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 1, 2013 6:17 PM

    crange71 wrote on: Jun 1, 2013 3:51 PM

    I’m pretty sure last time Texas played A&M at Kyle field the aggies walked off the field losers……again.

    I’m pretty sure the last time Texas played Alabama, the Longhorns walked off the the field losers…..and haven’t been the same since.

    Alabama has won three National Championships and Texas is still trying to field a team.


  39. drummerhoff says: Jun 1, 2013 6:24 PM

    Well, A&M is not far off. After-all, on the national college football stage, Texas had been relevant twice in the last 40 years : once when they beat USC and once when they lost to Bama.

    One national championship in 40 years! How do you explain that?

  40. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 1, 2013 6:29 PM

    drummerhoff wrote on: Jun 1, 2013 6:24 PM

    Well, A&M is not far off. After-all, on the national college football stage, Texas had been relevant twice in the last 40 years : once when they beat USC and once when they lost to Bama.

    One national championship in 40 years! How do you explain that?

    Care to explain Alabama’s 15 to Texas’s 4?


  41. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 1, 2013 6:57 PM

    Coolhorn wrote;

    That being said, it is silly for anybody to be writing UT’s epitaph, or for that matter, the Big XII’s. I seriously doubt the SEC would have partnered up with the Big XII in bowl business if they thought it was going out of business anytime soon. The loss of Nebraska, more than anyone else, did hurt, but there are still plenty of good, and improving teams in the Big XII and it will hold its’ own on the field against anyone.


    Hold it’s own? That’s like Jerry Sandusky saying he held his own.

    Sure sort of like the Big 12 sterling performance in the last bowl season?
    4 wins, 5 losses? Mack Brown buys bowl rings for the Alamo Bowl win?

    Drill down more into how the Big 12 is viewed as a regional conference

    Take recruiting this past year.

    1. The SEC has double the four and five-star recruits of any other major conference. The main reason is not the elite teams, which always kill it on the recruiting trail, but rather the job done by schools like Kentucky, which has really stepped up its recruiting game.

    Three-quarters of the B1G’s four and five-star players are to Michigan and Ohio State. Half of the conference signed one or fewer such players.

    The Big XII was the worst recruiting major conference.Many expected it to be the ACC. The down years of Texas and Oklahoma were not offset by Baylor’s best year ever. Similarly, TCU and Oklahoma State both disappointed, as TCU was hoping the move to the Big XII would improve its luck on the trail, and Oklahoma State cannot seem to turn its recent on-field success into an elite recruiting machine. Also, West Virginia’s class, featuring just a single four-star player, is embarrassing for a program that was supposed to strengthen the Big XII.

    2.Top-20 classes, the recruiting breakdown is as follows: SEC (7), ACC (4), Pac-12 (4), B1G (2) Big XII (2). The Big 12 ranked dead last against the SEC, PAC-12, B1G and the ACC, dead last. 5 and 4 star players want to play where they can be the best. Ames, Iowa, Waco, Texas, Manhattan, Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas, Lubbock, Texas, Fort Worth, Texas, Morgantown, WV and Stillwater, Oklahoma just doesn’t scream out to TV ad execs or superior football athletes.

    Austin and Norman are perceived as quality destinations for TV ad rates and athletes. That’s great for the Big 12, but when conferences like the B1G and the SEC are NATIONAL in scope, you can see why the Big 12 is viewed as nothing but a glorified Big 8 with Texas replacing Nebraska

    BTW Bowl contracts can be amended big time. Just ask the Texas/Meineke/Gallery Furniture Bowl.


  42. rabbi187 says: Jun 1, 2013 7:02 PM

    Funny the idiots on here getting worked up over a team that finished 5th in the conference. I’ll believe that Texas will be irrelevant to A&M when they stop singing about the Horns and remove their sawed off stickers of their duallies. The Aggies have been to all of 1 BCS game and that was last century. They will always be the little red headed younger brother of Texas.

  43. normtide says: Jun 1, 2013 9:48 PM

    Just an fyi, TA&M and Missouri both got a FULL SHARE if the revenue pie. No waiting periods, see: Nebraska, WVU, TCU, etc.. This is another reason why the SEC has to exit fee or GOR, we need neither.

  44. be4bama says: Jun 2, 2013 10:16 AM

    The SEC split 289 MILLION. Close to 100 million more than any other conference. SEC SEC SEC

  45. classyjacklambert says: Jun 2, 2013 10:18 AM

    Look I didn’t mean anything offensive about my earlier comment. It’s just that until I meet someone from Texas that isn’t a moron or waste of space then I will have that opinion of the state.

  46. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 2, 2013 2:22 PM

    classyjacklambert wrote on Jun 2, 2013 10:18 AM

    Look I didn’t mean anything offensive about my earlier comment. It’s just that until I meet someone from Texas that isn’t a moron or waste of space then I will have that opinion of the state.

    Why post? You’re a slave to what you post and a master you don’t post.


  47. crange71 says: Jun 2, 2013 3:26 PM

    I thought we were talking about how A&M is and always will be Texas’ little brother, not what Texas did against Bama or OU. Let’s just all agree that A&M has done nothing since before any of us were born, A&M, has lost to Texas way more than they have beat them and the last time they played each other Texas won. Those are the facts, don’t care what Texas did agains’ t (insert team here)In (insert date here) and the same with A&M…when the Aggies win a national title this century or win their confrence then there will be something to brag about.

  48. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 3, 2013 8:56 AM


    Aggie envy.

    They just accomplished what the longhorns couldn’t. Beat Alabama and OU in the same year. We’re pleased as punch that your ego and narcissism gave A&M to the SEC. Why? because you opened up Texas HS’s to the SEC to recruiting full time rather than the occasional excursion and that by giving us the Aggies, you allowed the SEC to negotiate a REAL nice contract for the SEC Network.

    A&M only did what Texas does in looking out for their own interests and all Texas has is a regional conference with no bedrock for National exposure. Enjoy the Big Eight 2.0

    Btw you still haven’t recovered from when the Tide beat you in the National
    Championship game. Those are facts.


  49. csimmswin says: Jun 3, 2013 10:48 AM

    The AGs won only 50% of their games in the big 12 consistently underachieving. One good year in the SEC and you would think they won the national championship, but that hasn’t happened since before most of us have been alive. What makes me laugh even more is when the AGs start bragging about their new conference’s consecutive national championships as if they were a part of them… Got to love the Aggies. I’ll miss their comic relief…

  50. foreverlsu says: Jun 3, 2013 11:50 AM

    How did Missouri do in the SEC vs. when they were in the Big 12?

  51. txhorns12 says: Jun 3, 2013 2:41 PM

    Aggies are always sticking their foot in their mouth the fact is UT doesn’t need tamu never have never will!! One good season and their world beaters fact tamu would need to win 40 straight games vs UT 2 be @.500 what a joke!! They are nothing more than that red headed step child of UT now I hold no ill will towards tamu other than they won’t be our whipping dog anymore UT’s only rival has always been OU while every team UT plays they are that schools biggest rival I have said it before and will say it again tamu will leave the SEC within eight years and go to the WAC or con USA so they can be the big dog it is sad that all aggies can do is run their mouths aggies always make me laugh even my brother the only one out of all our family that went to tamu all the rest of us went to UT @ Austin and when he left he said he wouldn’t be brainwashed he only wanted to go to school and now he is a giant agg and won’t even listen to any of us when it comes to UT vs tamu BRAINWASHED !!!!! SAD FUNNY

  52. 8to80texansblog says: Jun 3, 2013 4:37 PM

    @crange71 says:

    Let’s just all agree that A&M has done nothing since before any of us were born….

    I was born in 1979. Since then,

    National Championships
    A&M : 0
    Texas: 1 (’05)

    Conference Championships
    A&M: 7 (85,86,87,91,92,93,98)
    Texas: 7 (83,90,94,95,96,05,09)

    A&M: 1 (’12)
    Texas: 1 (’98)

    W-L Record since ’79
    A&M leads 17-16

    You got us on National championships, and you’ve been the more successful team reccently. You have to admit that the pendulum seems to be swinging back to us as of late. Doesn’t mean Sumlin won’t leave for the NFL and it won’t swing back toward Austin but as of right now, the better program lies in College Station.

  53. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 4, 2013 9:40 AM

    To all Texas supporters,

    I am so sorry that A&M decided to grow up and leave an abusive partner in the University of Texas. Face it, you abused an entire conference for decades and left
    when you found something better.

    Anyone can dominate a conference with the likes of Rice, Baylor, TCU and SMU as half their conference schedule. You’ve done the same thing with your ten team conference called the Big 12. You abhor true competition and have to dominate on the field and in conference administration in order to succeed. You have to admit Texas that you and Oklahoma are the powers in the Big 12 and that Deloss designed the Big 12 for 2 powers and 8 wannabes.

    Texas should win the Big 12 every year with the resources and name recognition
    alone, yet unless your fair weather fans (you only need to see the third quarter of last year’s OU game to know what I’m talking about) are beating Wyoming or New Mexico State, you cannot handle competition much less UCLA.

    The SEC gladly accepted Texas A&M and Missouri and can never thank you enough for sending Texas High School recruits our way along with your TV markets.

    Enjoy your regional conference.

  54. pushingiron says: Jun 5, 2013 1:38 PM

    I think that Bowen is right, both schools are seperated from one another, and the only relevance they have to one another is in recruiting. It is in the best interest of both to be in seperate conferences.
    I find that the biggest Ag bashers typically never went to Texas. I have a brother, sister, and B-I-L that graduated from Texas, and all support the Ags as long as they are not playing Texas. I did go to A&M, love the school, and contribute with my pocketbook to the 12th Man Foundation. Aggies have never thought of themselves as “little brothers”, our university is older, is larger (over 7,000 acres) and our student body is larger. In my lifetime the record between the two schools is .500, so I never understood the “superiority complex” fans of Texas have. I take the “Agriculture” comment as a compliment, America feeds the world, and our univerisity leads the nation in Agriculture research. I don’t care much for the “tin soldiers” comments, as A&M has more recipients of the Medal of Honor than anyone outside of the service academies.
    Texas had a great run under Mack Brown, but right now they really are not a great program. These things are always cyclical, as one program is on the top, another is sucking wind. Right now my Ags have momentum, and losing that last game to the ‘sips was the best thing that has happened in a long time, without that loss we would never have gotten Kevin Sumlin, we owe you for that one Texas.

  55. 8to80texansblog says: Jun 5, 2013 2:12 PM

    rabbi187 says: Jun 1, 2013 7:02 PM

    I’ll believe that Texas will be irrelevant to A&M when they stop singing about the Horns

    Horns reference the Aggies in their fight song too…

  56. sportsag07 says: Jun 5, 2013 3:43 PM

    “crange71 says:
    Jun 1, 2013 2:43 PM
    Texas looks weak because a&m and nebraska left?? Ya, cause those two schools really tore the Big 12 up! Give me a break! Adding TCU and WV were huge upgrades over the aggs and huskers!”

    Upgrades huh? Have stats for that? Unfortunately for you, I have the stats:

  57. v2the4 says: Jun 7, 2013 10:27 AM

    hey stagg,

    did Texas high school recruits just start attending sec schools when agriculture joined the conference? Arkansas, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, and Florida have had great success going back into the 80’s of signing Texas based players to play for them.

    I know the entire sec has all kinds of aTm and mizzou gear, along with the alabama, auburn and lsu title banners up in their homes, but what aggie did was remarkable last season…

    a big 12 also ran, who had a losing conference record in their last season, went right into the shark tank and “Gigged-em”, beating the snot out of arkansas, auburn, miss st, and doing what no other sec team besides auburn could do, win on the road in Tuscaloosa.

    Will aggy be able to do it again…can they have consistency and perform year after year, or will they be a one year wonder like ..they wont be able to take the sec by suprise this year, and you cant expect arkansas and auburn, two top 25 teams at one point last season, to be as bad as they were with new coaches…

    I know a lot of people bring up what aggie did to OU in the cotton bowl, and that was a great win for them..they are still popping champagne and blowing up ballons…..but many forget that UT and a&m both played in Oxford last season against Ole miss…and the outcomes:

    Sept 15 2012: UT 66 Ole Miss 31…UT sat on the ball in the last 8 minutes of the game

    Oct 6 2012 A&M 30, Ole Miss 27…Johnny football scores 13 points in the last five minutes for A&M’s first road win in the sec

  58. pushingiron says: Jun 7, 2013 10:56 AM


    Everyone knows Ole Miss got a lot better as the season went on, the new coach is going to be really good. Ole Miss will never have the talent level a lot of teams have, but they will be very strong this year. Texas got worse as the season progressed. As hot as A&M was at the end of the season, nobody believed that Texas had a chance in hell of even staying in the game past the first quarter. If you thought the OU game was bad, it would have been nothing compared to a bowl game against the Ags. Texas officials made it clear to the Cotton Bowl they would not accept a game against A&M. It was all over this very website.
    However, it was one year. As confident as I am in the progression of Sumlin’s team, the SEC teams will more than likely be better prepared. So will Johnny Football. Kid won the Heisman as a RS-FR. Sky is the limit for this kid. The recruiting class that Sumlin brought in is going to be huge. The rivalry with Texas is only plays out now in recruiting. That is a good thing for the horns as in this cycle they are on their way down, while A&M is cycling up.

  59. v2the4 says: Jun 7, 2013 12:33 PM

    No doubt A&M is riding the wave right now and flying high, especially with what they did on the football field…Sumlin is an offensive juggernaut, based on what Case Keenum did under him at Houston, and we see what Johnny Manziel did in his first year in the regime.

    the loss of Kliff Kingsbury may hurt them a lil bit, but they had a good offense under Mike Sherman..the defense was the major issue, and thats probably where the aggies will have issues at this year….

    as for Texas being down, I wouldnt call a 9-4 season a down year, but I guess by Longhorn standards, it was…we were spoiled with the multiple 10,11, and and 13 win seasons from 2000-2008, 9 straight years of such..only Florida St has a longer streak….but if 9-4 is on the downswing as you say, I bet you money that last years sec bottom dwellers (Arkansas, Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky, Mizzouri,) and those who didnt win 9 games(Ole Miss, Miss St, Vandy) would have traded records with the Horns in a nano second…

    Horns have 19 starters back this year, and we will be in the hunt for the title this season..

  60. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 7, 2013 2:26 PM


    A&M coming to the SEC opened the flood gates for the entire SEC to openly recruit Texas enmass for ALL sports. Overall recruiting budgets allocated MORE money for recruiting Texas for two simple reasons.

    (1.) Shear numbers. Texas has a fertile base of quality HS athletic programs in all sports. Even now, juniors in high school will be receiving interest from schools like Kentucky in football that did not exist a year ago because of the addition of A&M.

    (2.) TV. The butts on the sofa or in a recliner demand quality football. By sending A&M and Missouri to the SEC, you gave those school alumni a reason to watch SEC football. You gave us the DFW, Houston, San Antonio/Austin markets along with the St Louis market., and we REALLY thank you with the increased numbers we were able to show Ad execs for the SEC Network.

    It will only get better for all the SEC schools.

    Bowin was correct in saying A&M doesn’t need Texas.

    Texas has it’s own boutique conference which was by design by Dodds for Texas to DOMINATE and provide content for the LHN. The Big 12 is a regional conference with very little appeal on a NATIONAL stage. The B1G and SEC are NATIONAL conferences. The Big 12 conference exists solely for the pleasure of Texas. Should Texas decide to go to the PAC-12, the conference dies. No TV executive wants Tech or Baylor or Iowa State or any other Big 12 school because there is no “sizzle” without true competition. Only Oklahoma has any legs on TV and that is limited given Big Game Bob’s performance in crucial NATIONAL games, and they are encumbered by OSU having to go to the same conference OU is in by the Oklahoma legislature. Dodds know this.

    Again, thanks Texas for sending A&M and Missori to the SEC. You gave us two first tier Universities with great academics AND quality athletic programs that opened a spanking new world for the SEC. It is good to have such great institutions!


  61. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 7, 2013 2:33 PM


    Since you brought up common opponents that Texas
    played last year with the comparison of Texas/Texas A&M with Ole Miss, could you please tell me the scores of the Oklahoma Texas game and the Texas A&M Oklahoma game? Inquiring minds want to know.


  62. be4bama says: Jun 7, 2013 2:35 PM

    Amos, I love reading your post!!! Keep them coming.

  63. 8to80texansblog says: Jun 7, 2013 4:19 PM


    The fact is, the power struggle in Texas for football dominance tends to hit each side in waves. Late 80s & early 90s were A&Ms, 00s were UTs, the last few years have been ours.

    Our move to the SEC has shifted the landscape and leveled the playing field. There is no denying that the SEC is the premier conference in college football and that the SEC is a pro factory. Now the high level talent in Texas can stay home and still play in the SEC spotlight.

    I actually hope Dodds and Brown keep their superiority complex, because if they continue the “We’re Texas and you’re not” mentality, the Aggies are going to wave as we pass them by.

  64. 8to80texansblog says: Jun 7, 2013 4:25 PM

    I also love that the majority of the support is coming from non Aggies….

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