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South Carolina investigating if Jadeveon Clowney spoke with Jay-Z’s agency

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After a mostly quiet offseason, South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney has made a couple of headlines over the past week.

First, the preseason Heisman candidate did some name dropping at SEC Media Days by listing off quarterbacks he felt were scared of him. Now, he’s being connected to Jay-Z and his agency,  Roc Nation Sports.

InsidetheLeague was, to our knowledge, the first source to report the story; the NFL Network and other outlets picked up on it later.

South Carolina has acknowledged its compliance department is looking into the details, calling the inquiry “standard operating procedure.”

Before this goes any further, it should be noted that Clowney is allowed to speak with agents. He’s just not allowed to come to a verbal or written agreement to be represented. Here is the NCAA’s rule, word for word, on an athlete’s contact with an agent:

Under NCAA Bylaw 12.3, a student-athlete (any individual who currently participates in or who may be eligible in the future to participate in intercollegiate sport) may not agree verbally or in writing to be represented by an athlete agent in the present or in the future for the purpose of marketing the student-athlete’s ability or reputation. If the student-athlete enters into such an agreement, the student-athlete is ineligible for intercollegiate competition.

Also, a student-athlete may not accept transportation or other benefits from an athlete agent. This prohibition applies to the student-athlete and his or her relatives or friends.

The term “agent” includes actual agents, runners (individuals who befriend student-athletes and frequently distribute impermissible benefits) and financial advisors.

It is not a violation of NCAA rules if a student-athlete merely talks to an agent (as long as an agreement for agent representation is not established) or socializes with an agent. For example, a student-athlete could go to dinner with an agent and no NCAA violations would result if the student-athlete provided his own transportation and paid for his meal.

It wouldn’t be surprising if Clowney, projected by just about everyone to be the No. 1 overall pick of the 2014 draft, was speaking with Jay-Z — or any agent for that matter. The topic of the conversation is what’s important. If Clowney simply spoke to Jay-Z and didn’t receive any benefits, then there’s no issue. If it was anything else, it could become one quickly and Clowney’s eligibility in 2013 would come into question. Gamecocks coach Steve Spurrier, speaking on ESPN today, seemed confident that Clowney has a solid understanding of what he’s allowed and not allowed to do NCAA-wise.

“All of our conversations (with Clowney) are wait until you have played your last game at South Carolina,” Spurrier said. “When the bowl game is over this coming season he’s free to accept any amount of money anybody wants to give him. But until then he has to be a student-athlete like all the other guys or he’s not going to be eligible. He’s done a good job of knowing that.”

We’ll find out for certain when South Carolina’s compliance department comes back with answers.

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40 Responses to “South Carolina investigating if Jadeveon Clowney spoke with Jay-Z’s agency”
  1. MasMacho says: Jul 23, 2013 5:48 PM

    I guess it is time to begin tearing the man down, right? Being pre-season all world and all.

    I’m looking forward to the part where football is about what happens between the sidelines.

  2. be4bama says: Jul 23, 2013 5:58 PM

    I’m looking forward to seeing him hit somebody!!

  3. classyjacklambert says: Jul 23, 2013 6:59 PM

    Great another witch-hunt.

  4. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Jul 23, 2013 7:05 PM

    The NCAA has repeatedly thrown their own rule books out the window when it comes to the SEC, why would they start now and hurt the money?

  5. 8to80texansblog says: Jul 23, 2013 7:09 PM

    I guess we’ve torn Johnny Football down enough for being a 20 year old…. lets move on to the other mega star and start tearing him down….

    37 more days, and we’ll have something real to talk about…

  6. hotlantalaw says: Jul 23, 2013 10:36 PM

    Why would a player sign with the narcissistic ripoff of a quality agent?

  7. mediocrebob says: Jul 23, 2013 11:06 PM

    Hahahahahaha didn’t see anything like this coming with this guy.

    H.O.V. (Jayz voice)

  8. vmannj says: Jul 24, 2013 12:10 AM

    “…may not agree verbally or in writing to be represented by an athlete agent in the present or in the future FOR THE PURPOSE OF MARKETING THE STUDENT-ATHLETE’S ABILITY OR REPUTATION.”

    So, word-for-word, this says Jay-Z can’t promote Clowney. They can come to a verbal agreement on representation, as long as Jay-Z isn’t pimping him around to NFL scouts. Am I right, or did I miss something?

  9. floridacock says: Jul 24, 2013 8:10 AM

    He has broken no rules. It is not illegal to talk with agents, all NFL bound players do it. It IS illegal to come to a verbal or written agreement with that agent.

  10. jonkybon says: Jul 24, 2013 8:17 AM

    I’ve seen pictures on facebook (may have been doctored) of Clowney getting out of Jay-Z’s limo at the ESPY’s. That is the transportation violation. He also made some tweets that indicate a professional relationship with JayZ.

    Since USC-east is already on probation and the Clown is their entire team, we may be seeing the last of the Ole Ball Sack! Gawd I hope not. As long as he’s coach, the best the Lamecocks can hope for is their usual fifth place finish.

  11. planck16 says: Jul 24, 2013 9:42 AM

    Where there is smoke, there is fire.

  12. florida727 says: Jul 24, 2013 10:00 AM

    #classyjacklambert hit the nail on the head. It’s another witch hunt. Why is it in our society that we love to build people up, then once they’re on that proverbial pedestal, we look for ways to tear them down? Leave this kid alone and let him live his life and enjoy his final year of collegiate football. (Even if he kicks my favorite team’s @$$, I want to watch him play.)

    How stupid is it to assume that Clowney and Jay-Z did NOT talk about his future? What do you think Jay-Z asked him about, the weather in Columbia, SC, or what he’d be wearing to next year’s Heisman ceremony and that’s it?

    The NCAA rule is stupid on several fronts: 1) it’s an unrealistic expectation that a “conversation” wouldn’t include the topic of a future working relationship, and 2) it’s unprovable. Short of wire-tapping their conversation, how do you PROVE what they TALKED about? Unless you heard it first-hand, Mr. NCAA Investigator, you have no proof. And without PROOF, you CANNOT punish the athlete.

  13. davemock says: Jul 24, 2013 10:30 AM

    Why would anyone with such great potential even consider a peanut group to represent him in professional sports. JayZ is not an attorney, his friends are not attorneys, and Im sure they cannot pronounce half the verbage in contractual agreements…let alone look out for JClowney’s best interests.
    JZ makes less than average music, entitles his followers to believe they are doing the right thing by stealing, promoting violence and discourse, and above all….thinks he is above everyone else. All while saying nothing to the fact SCHOOL and hard work is the only thing that will make you successful.

  14. jets12 says: Jul 24, 2013 11:48 AM

    As usual jonkybon has his facts wrong. But that’s understandable since he is an habitual liar. What is a fact for the last four years his worst nightmare, The Gamecocks, have owned his clemson tigers. South Carolina doesn’t usually finish fifth in the SEC East. What they have been doing is winning the instate rivalry and it hasn’t been close. Also Clowney has done nothing wrong and his status for this season is in no jeopardy. And Spurrier will be gone as soon as he tires of handing out his yearly ass whipping to the aforementioned tigers.

  15. mediocrebob says: Jul 24, 2013 12:17 PM

    If your Clownsong why put yourself in the situation in the first place? No sympathy.

  16. imaduffer says: Jul 24, 2013 1:19 PM

    Now if the NCAA could just define what is a student-athlete .

  17. clemsonstillsucks says: Jul 24, 2013 2:59 PM

    So folks – it appears that Jonkybon has emerged from his den and seen Spurrier’s large Cock*…so looks like an early football season.

    *meaning JD Clowney…what’d you think I meant?

  18. goodguyattorney says: Jul 24, 2013 4:09 PM

    The ball coache’s comments are a clear indication he has a huge case of the CYAs. Spurrier: “We told him everything he was supposed to do. We didn’t know he had made this agreement with any agent and don’t understand how this could have happened. Please don’t blame me or the program for this clear violation.” Clowney is dumb as a bag of rocks. I doubt he knows how to read a calendar, much less know how to avoid vultures like Jay-Z. This will not end good for the ‘Cocks.

  19. jets12 says: Jul 24, 2013 4:25 PM

    Clowney has done nothing wrong and he will be just fine. Don’t know how dumb he is but I’ll bet he is smart enough to be making a few million by this time next year. We should all be a bag of rocks.

  20. classyjacklambert says: Jul 24, 2013 9:58 PM

    Ha for once I agree with Jets12. Clowney really is pretty dumb but he will make more next year than I will make in 20 and I’m middle class. But the best defensive players are never brain surgeons. Has anyone ever seen a Lawrence Timmons interview? Helluva player but sentences of more than 3 words require cue cards with pictures for him.

    The NCAA needs to stop selectively enforcing ridiculous rules when they need to prove they are still a potent entity. If they can’t consistently enforce the policies, then they or the policies need to change.

    The NCAA is just angry if anyone else is trying to get in on their money racket of college athletes.

  21. jonkybon says: Jul 24, 2013 10:22 PM

    Shit

    Sh’tforbrains aka Jets12 aka cluckfemson aka well there are so many…

    SC is 41-65 against Clemson. That’s hardly owning them.

    Unlike you,you escapee from an abortion, the last time I lied I was seven and my daddy beat me so bad I would/will never do it again.

    You are such a worthless retard, you can’t imagine success and what successful people know and do. You spend all day, every day on hundreds of Internet sites creating as much friction as you can. Everyone here knows this is another fact!!!

    You are such a pathetic loser you take someone else’s ID as your screen name. Why? Obviously, you have no life.

    Rant all you want you. I refuse to address this escapee from an abortion clinic any further.

  22. jonkybon says: Jul 24, 2013 10:27 PM

    PS the Lamecocks have finished fifth in the SEC four out of the last five years including the last two in a row. Three years ago they finished second, their only trip to the SEC Championship game.

    Conference standing are determined by the 12 regular season games and UGA has represented the SEC Least three of the last four years. Not the Shamecocks!!!

    No wonder Gamecock fans have been voted the worst in the NCAA by Bleacher Reports so often!

  23. clemsonstillsucks says: Jul 25, 2013 12:06 AM

    LMFAO. Jets12 and I are distinctly different, but apparently on the same nerve. “Squeal like a pig, boy!” Clemson fans are going to have to hit EBay to buy excuses after this year. If you’re lucky the Dawg will eat your homework.

    Hahaha. Here’s to public meltdowns, displays of ignorance, and weak arguments. Cheers!

  24. gamecocklover1 says: Jul 25, 2013 6:36 AM

    @jonkybon – The use of facts when trying to present an argument goes a long way to one’s credibility. Your credibility is apparently as low as your IQ.

    The first example of your low IQ is your language and use of filthy descriptions of people you likely don’t know. We can have great debates; based on facts, and at the end of the day agree to disagree.

    Let me help you with some FACTS:

    South Carolina SEC Rankings from 2007 – 2012
    07 – 4th
    08 – 4th
    09 – 5th
    10 – Won the East
    11 – 2nd
    12 – 3rd

    SC – Clemson Rivalry:
    1986 – 1945
    Clemson won 28 games and there were 2 ties

    Post WWII Era 1946 – 1991
    Clemson won 25 games and there were 2 ties

    1992 – 2012
    Clemson has a 3 game edge, winning 12 games to Carolina’s 9

    Unlike the ACC, which is, based on most EXPERT’S opinions, one of, if not in recent years, the weakest football conference. I’ll take a loss over national powers every Saturday in the fall than brag about a come from behind win over Wofford (at home) two years ago or repeatedly beating Duke.

    What I won’t do is characterise all Clemson fans based on your low IQ and inability to articulate the English language.

    Fans of college football LOVE the game in addition to their favorite team. You are not a fan of the game because you have shown a total lack of respect and knowledge of the game.

    Oh, and PS: Clowney is NOT our entire team, just as Marcus Lattimore was not. Spurrier has recruited some talented athletes that have come together as a unit. If you’ll recall back to last year’s game, we used a 2nd string QB who almost single handedly beat you.

    Perhaps you should use your time studying the game of college football instead of misrepresenting the facts.

    As for Dabo, all Carolina fans join you in hoping he stays a very long time at Clemson!

    #Fearthethumb

  25. jets12 says: Jul 25, 2013 7:32 AM

    Jonkybon over the past year or so you have made many false and absurd claims about me. In other words you are a liar. Not to mention you know absolutely nothing, and it is not even close, about football or the facts concerning the game itself. If the truth does not fit in your delusional concept you just make stuff up or twist the facts to suite yourself. What your pea sized brain does not understand is anyone can see you for what you are, a classless foul mouthed liar. You can always spot someone who has no facts to back up their argument. They resort to lying and foul language and name calling. You are the shining example of what most normal people aspire not to be. But I’m sure you just can’t help yourself. Your are an uneducated simpleton. In other words a clemson graduate. Your family must be so proud.

    Speaking of family. About this time last year, you made comments that you knew me personally and knew my family. You said that you were in constant contact with my mother and even she had concerns about me. You are without a doubt one sick person. You don’t know me or my family. Again your a liar. Your absolute insane obsession concerning me having different screen names would be laughable if you weren’t so obsessed with this false claim. Again I only have the one screen name. Please do yourself a favor and seek medical attention for your mental short comings. We will all be relieved.

  26. jonkybon says: Jul 25, 2013 8:57 AM

    In 2012 UGA, UF and Alabama all finished the regular season at 7-1. LSU, A&M and the Cunts, I mean cocks finished at 6-2. Since LSU beat the cocks, that means USC-east finished fifth.

    1. Alabama
    2. UGA
    3. UF
    4. LSU
    5. A&M, USC-east

    In 2011 LSU finished 8-0, UGA and Alabama finished 7-1, Ark and the Shamecocks finished 6-2, but Ark beat the chickensh^ts.

    1. LSU
    2. UGA
    3. Alabama
    4. Arkansas
    5. You know who

    In 2010 SC had the best season ever finishing second in the SEC.

    In 2009 UF and Alabama each finished 8-0. LSU finished 5-3. UGA, UT and Ole Miss finished 4-4. UK, Ark, Aub, Miss St and SC finished 3-5.

    1. Alabama
    2. Florida
    3. LSU
    4. Ole Miss
    5. UT
    6. UGA

    So I was wrong, SC did not finish fifth in 09, they finished tied at best for SEVENTH in the SEC.

    Break it down by any time frame you choose, Clemson has won 65 times against the Jailbirds and only lost 41.

    Clemson has won 1 National title and 18 conference titles.

    SC has never sniffed a National title and has won 2 ACC titles. Wait, the 1969 title was stripped and the Shamecocks were asked to vacate the ACC for their long history of cheating. One title in 120 years is beyond pathetic.

    SC has had more feloney charges leveled agaist their athletes in the last five years then any two other Div 1 programs. SC has been on probation more times then any other NCAA Div 1 program.

    SO Cocklover, despute the facts! Anybody can google the year and SEC football standings and see what I reproduced. I am addressing you, because you are dead wrong and because I haven’t linked you to Sybil.

    BTW when someone (whom I am not addressing directly) makes a denial without being accused, it’s a clear admission of guilt. This means we can add yet another to long list of alternate names (not referring to you cocklover).

  27. jets12 says: Jul 25, 2013 9:15 AM

    Jonkybon you are still and will forever be a liar and a mental case. You did not deny anything that I said because you can’t.

  28. jets12 says: Jul 25, 2013 9:33 AM

    Jonkybon.

    “SC has never sniffed a National title and has won 2 ACC titles. Wait, the 1969 title was stripped and the Shamecocks were asked to vacate the ACC for their long history of cheating. One title in 120 years is beyond pathetic.

    SC has had more feloney charges leveled agaist their athletes in the last five years then any two other Div 1 programs. SC has been on probation more times then any other NCAA Div 1 program.”

    Both of these comments are lies. Carolina left the ACC due to basketball reasons and their 1969 ACC football title was not taken away. That ridiculous claim about felonies is just that, ridiculous. You should really get therapy for your lying problem. Haven’t the time are the inclination to research your other so called facts. But given your history I’m sure they are lies also.

  29. gamecocklover1 says: Jul 25, 2013 9:46 AM

    #Jonkybon

    I’ve forgotten more football than you’ll ever know. My husband played for Carolina and is a high school coach in SC for 30 years.

    My reference to the rankings were for the SEC East only and I don’t need Google for that. But you can bet your sweet @$$ I’ll Google your felony claims.

    No, we’ve never sniffed a National Championship, but we’ve damn never stolen and cheated for one either.

  30. jets12 says: Jul 25, 2013 10:11 AM

    @gamecocklover1 don’t let jonkybon get under your skin. You can rest assured that if he post something it is a lie. He is an uneducated lying fool.

  31. jonkybon says: Jul 25, 2013 11:09 AM

    @cocklover,

    If you knew 1/100 about college football as you claim, you’d know that each team plays a 12 game schedule eight of which are conference games. I provided the conference records, so I have proven that you know crap about football.

    No, your husbands team never cheated for a National title, but they did for the 65 and 69 ACC titles, one of which was stripped. You’d also know that the Shamecocks are currently on probation for providing the second most improper benefits in the history of the NCAA. The $60,000 from the Whitney Hotel (your current probation) is only second to the house the real USC provided for Reggie Bush.

    Go ahead and google it, you had a LB that was charged with 5 counts of terrorism and 3 B&E’s. That’s 8 all by himself.

    Thanks for playing, but before you show you lack of football IQ, check with your husband. BTW, I doubt you are female, married, etc but can’t prove it yet.

  32. jets12 says: Jul 25, 2013 11:20 AM

    @jonkybon I don’t doubt that you are a liar and that has definitely been proven.

    Jonkybon = Liar

  33. clemsonstillsucks says: Jul 25, 2013 12:22 PM

    Public service reminder: “don’t feed the trolls.”

  34. jets12 says: Jul 25, 2013 12:54 PM

    Came across the fairly recent article concerning SEC schools and arrest records. Seems that those, jonkybon, who claim Caroilna has a huge problem are mistaken. In jonkybons case he just flat out lies about it.

    http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2013/05/lsu_falls_in_lower_half_of_sec.html

  35. classyjacklambert says: Jul 25, 2013 1:46 PM

    I’m starting to think that Jets12 suffers from multiple Personality disorder and Jonkybon is his alternate screen name and he just likes to argue with himself.

  36. jonkybon says: Jul 25, 2013 1:57 PM

    Please don’t insult me Jack.

    The moron has a reading disorder. I said SC has more felony charges over the last 5 years and they do.

    The article referenced talks about the last 3 years only and lists all arrests. Or so it claims. As I will prove, it’s hardly accurate like the author that referenced it.

    It lists Angelo Whatley for credit card fraud, but…

    http://www.wistv.com/story/17030336/usc-mlb-watley-arrested-suspended

    leaves out the worst of this Gamecocks offenses. Notice this is about a follow up arrest after he had already been charged with 6, not 5, counts of domestic terrorism.

    The shamecocks even have a coach that is a sex offender. Great program to be root for…LOL

  37. jets12 says: Jul 25, 2013 2:02 PM

    “SC has had more feloney charges leveled agaist their athletes in the last five years then any two other Div 1 programs. SC has been on probation more times then any other NCAA Div 1 program.”

    Hey liar. That would be you jonkybon. Show the documentation to prove this you pathological liar.

  38. jets12 says: Jul 25, 2013 2:08 PM

    Jonkybon I see where you still will not address the lies about personally knowing me and my family. Everytime you post it is nothing but lies and then lies to cover the lies. And of course you resort to being a child and pretend not to acknowledge me. Then of course the name calling and foul language. You are pathetic and sad all at the same time.

  39. jets12 says: Jul 25, 2013 2:11 PM

    Actually it’s the last four years. And I have a reading disorder.

  40. sc0721 says: Jul 25, 2013 3:16 PM

    The amount of effort Clemson fans put into history books and charts is absolutely astounding. Heres a fun fact, the Tigers haven’t beat the Gamecocks in FOUR years. No amount of ridiculous data or ‘felony’ charges will ever change that.

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