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Report: NCAA investigating Manziel for accepting money for autographs

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It’s been a whole seven days since Johnny Manziel was in the headlines for doing Johnny Manziel things – almost all of which have been generally harmless.

A story released by “Outside the Lines” on Sunday, however, has shed light on another topic that could absolutely affect Manziel’s eligibility for part, or potentially all, of the 2013 season. OTL reports that the NCAA is investigating if Manziel, last year’s Heisman Trophy winner, was paid a “five-figure flat fee” for signing “hundreds of autographs on photos and sports memorabilia in January” when he went to Miami for the BCS championship game.

From the report:

Three sources said Manziel signed photographs, footballs, mini football helmets and other items at the request of an autograph broker named Drew Tieman. Two sources, who are aware of the signing arrangement, told “Outside the Lines” that Tieman approached Manziel on Jan. 6 when he landed at the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport to attend the game between Alabama and Notre Dame the next day.

After that meeting, three sources said, Manziel, accompanied by his friend and personal assistant Nathan Fitch, visited Tieman’s residence and signed hundreds of items in the main room of the apartment despite the fact that there were many people in the room. Before Manziel left South Florida, after taking in the title game, he signed hundreds of autographs more, one source said.

The two sources ESPN used said they witnessed the signing, but not the alleged exchange of money.

The report, which comes less than a week after ESPN published a piece from Wright Thompson profiling Manziel that made no mention of the Texas A&M quarterback receiving money for autographs, goes on to say that the NCAA contacted Tieman in June about the signings. Tieman, the NCAA, and Manziel did not return calls and texts for the story. Texas A&M refused to comment.

It’s not the first time Manziel’s signature has come into question with ESPN. The WWL contacted A&M in March “to address a slew of Manziel signed items that had flooded the memorabilia market.” A&M responded that Manziel had stated numerous times that he had not profited off of his autograph.

So Manziel is quite likely aware of NCAA Bylaw 12.5.2.1, which prohibits athletes from accepting money for promoting or advertising the commercial sale of a product or service. The topic of whether Manziel should or shouldn’t be allowed to profit off of his signature (he should) is another conversation; the fact of the matter is NCAA bylaws don’t allow that — though the Association could use its own rules to open up Manziel’s bank statements to see if he did.

And if the NCAA finds something fishy, it could be the one off-the-field story that actually derails Manziel’s 2013 season in some form or fashion.

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63 Responses to “Report: NCAA investigating Manziel for accepting money for autographs”
  1. texasbornlsufan says: Aug 4, 2013 6:08 PM

    Hello College Station we have a problem!

  2. barkleyblows says: Aug 4, 2013 6:10 PM

    Bout time this guy is under investigation. But since he plays in the SECheat… This will all be swept under the rug…. Just like everything else the guy has done.

    So, yeah… Not really expecting anything to come out of this.

  3. cubsin2049 says: Aug 4, 2013 6:13 PM

    Stunned.

  4. dryzzt23 says: Aug 4, 2013 6:13 PM

    I have no problem with Manziel profiting from HIS name, HIS likeness, and the Heisman that HE earned.

    Apparently Manziel is not allowed to profit from his own name, his number, his likeness, his image, or anything that he does…BUT the NCAA, the SEC, and Texas A&M CAN profit.

    The NCAA, much like the federal government, wants their cut up front, and they didn’t get it so they decided to railroad Manziel.

    This is really f-ed up.

  5. barkleyblows says: Aug 4, 2013 6:14 PM

    Btw nice to see NBCrap stick up for another SEC team.

    Not sure who is worse.. ESPiN or NBCrap.

  6. mcjon22 says: Aug 4, 2013 6:15 PM

    It’s good to see A&M is taking their SEC membership seriously

  7. jimbo75025 says: Aug 4, 2013 6:25 PM

    A & M, about that top 10 ranking, umm yeah we need to talk.

  8. indywvu says: Aug 4, 2013 6:25 PM

    I have been called out like crazy on FB and Twitter by the A&M contingent because I’ve said that all this stuff he’s doing can’t be appropriate. Turns out I just might have been right. I’d be shocked, if I wasn’t.

    On another note, if this is true, are the (mostly SEC homers) that were calling for Reggie Bush’s Heisman going to do the same now?

  9. jrs45 says: Aug 4, 2013 6:32 PM

    Sec sec sec!

  10. crimhollingsworth says: Aug 4, 2013 6:33 PM

    I’m guessing this will be an aggressive investigation, where the NCAA is hellbent on determining inconclusive. Unless someone releases video of the money going into Johnny’s hands, this will go nowhere.

  11. be4bama says: Aug 4, 2013 6:37 PM

    If he did this I see at least a one year suspension.
    SEC SEC SEC
    ROLL TIDE

  12. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Aug 4, 2013 6:38 PM

    tOSU players trade their personal memorabilia for tattoos and tOSU gets crucified (granted Tressel tried to cover it up). If this report is true, it sounds like a whole lot more money changed hands on this deal. It will be interesting to see if TA&M forfeits wins, scholarships and bowl games. Of course, he is just a “20 year old kid” so we should overlook his “mistake.”

  13. bertenheim says: Aug 4, 2013 6:41 PM

    From a free market standpoint, he should be able to market his signature. Also from a free market standpoint, it should be worth about 12 cents.
    He’s going to make Tebow look like an all-pro in the NFL.
    From a p.r. standpoint, he looks like a jerk.

  14. be4bama says: Aug 4, 2013 6:42 PM

    If this violation did occur it was after the 2012 season. So no don’t think he should give the trophy back. Punishment should be suspension, indefiently.

  15. djlexluger says: Aug 4, 2013 6:46 PM

    What’s with all the ESPin & NBCrap? Lol what a loser

  16. jimbo75025 says: Aug 4, 2013 6:47 PM

    indywvu says:Aug 4, 2013 6:25 PM

    On another note, if this is true, are the (mostly SEC homers) that were calling for Reggie Bush’s Heisman going to do the same now?
    ———–
    Well, I am one SEC homer who certainly would be. Manziel has issues and that has been pretty evident since at least January.

    Bigger question would be if voters knowing what they now do would still even give Manziel the Heisman?

  17. overratedgators says: Aug 4, 2013 6:48 PM

    brutusbuckeye: You’re forgetting that when the Ohio State story was just about a few players, the punishment was limited to just benching those particular players for a few games. The NCAA didn’t “crucify” OSU UNTIL it came out that Tressel had covered it up. The crucifixion happened because of the coach’s transgressions, not the players’.

  18. dcroz says: Aug 4, 2013 6:49 PM

    indywvu:

    While this SEC homer did not call for Bush’s Heisman, Bush played for USC *after* he and his family received illegal benefits, meaning he was ineligible for those games leading to the Trojans’ 2004 BCS National Championship and to his 2005 Heisman. Manziel and TAMU, meanwhile, have yet to play a down of competitive football since the event described above, nor are there any allegations that he received any such monies before or during his Heisman-winning season last year. Big difference between the two should these allegations have any merit to them.

    And as much as it pains me to agree with dryzzt23 about anything, he does have a point about Manziel not being allowed to benefit from his likeness or autograph but the NCAA, the SEC, and TAMU are. Surely something can be done to allow players to receive money from such things in a controlled manner that prevents exorbitant fees being paid as a way to cover up improper benefits being slipped under the table. Oh, wait, this is the NCAA we’re talking about. Nevermind.

  19. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Aug 4, 2013 6:54 PM

    @ overratedgators:
    You seem to forget that tOSU forfeited the games that Pryor, etc. played in after the incident.

  20. dcroz says: Aug 4, 2013 7:01 PM

    brutusbuckeye2011:

    You seem to forget that tOSU didn’t forfeit those games until after Tressel got caught lying after the Buckeyes had struck the deal with the NCAA to allow the players in question to remain eligible for the Sugar Bowl. The original punishment was just that the players involved would be suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season, with a bit of a wink-wink-nudge-nudge that most of them would be leaving early for the NFL, anyway.

  21. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 4, 2013 7:03 PM

    Stunned,

    If he did did it, he should be suspended,period, end of argument.

    If he didn’t receive any money, where does he go to get his reputation back?

    I cannot see Johnny Manizel copyrighting “Johnny
    Football” and taking legal action to protect his interests and then do something totally stupid like this. Er, never mind, this is Johnny Manziel after all.

    A&M would never forgive him

  22. mgmac says: Aug 4, 2013 7:05 PM

    my Dad graduated from Ohio State back in 1938, obviously the younger Ohio State people don’t know much comprehension – brutusbuckeye2011 says:
    Aug 4, 2013 6:38 PM
    tOSU players trade their personal memorabilia for tattoos and tOSU gets crucified (granted Tressel tried to cover it up). If this report is true, it sounds like a whole lot more money changed hands on this deal. It will be interesting to see if TA&M forfeits wins, scholarships and bowl games. Of course, he is just a “20 year old kid” so we should overlook his “mistake.”

    Why would Texas A&M forfeit wins? This happened AFTER the season was over. It happened AFTER their bowl game. Manziel has not played in any games since the National Championship game was played. You brutusbuckeye are either stupid or an idiot or perhaps both.

  23. mogogo1 says: Aug 4, 2013 7:21 PM

    Well, the old tale of the poor kid from the hood won’t apply hear. This kid just doesn’t think. Did he ask anybody if this was okay and just ignored them when they said “no” or just figure he could get away with it because he’s Johnny Football?

  24. palmbeachbuckeye says: Aug 4, 2013 7:27 PM

    I want nothing more or less in the way of media scrutiny, NCAA scrutiny and NCAA punishment than Ohio State got 2 years ago for the same nonsense. If OSU lost an entire season, a head coach and got a bowl ban and multiple scholarship losses then the exact same thing should happen in this situation.

  25. jimbo75025 says: Aug 4, 2013 7:27 PM

    mogogo1 says:Aug 4, 2013 7:21 PM

    Well, the old tale of the poor kid from the hood won’t apply hear. This kid just doesn’t think. Did he ask anybody if this was okay and just ignored them when they said “no” or just figure he could get away with it because he’s Johnny Football?
    ——–
    Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

    Manziel cruises around College Station in a Benz poppa bought for him.

    I doubt he needed to do this (if he is indeed guilty that is) to avoid having to subsist on Ramen noodles and keep the lights on at his parents.

    I easily forgive a young man (he is 20 and not a kid) for doing one stupid thing-we all did dumb things at that age, but the pattern Manziel has established in the last 6-7 months just leaves me shaking my head.

  26. mstiger1 says: Aug 4, 2013 7:34 PM

    Barklyblows, I guess your team is in one of the wuss conferences and that is the reason for your cheat comment. I’d be willing to bet there is just as much “cheating” in all the conferences.

  27. onbucky96 says: Aug 4, 2013 7:39 PM

    Johnny Misdemeanor at it again. He’ll play, NCAA won’t announce its findings until January.

  28. DicksSportingWoods says: Aug 4, 2013 7:42 PM

    Urban Meyer’s fault.

  29. mediocrebob says: Aug 4, 2013 8:11 PM

    Yes! This is awesome. If it smells like shit it usually is.

  30. indywvu says: Aug 4, 2013 9:19 PM

    Whether he should or should not be able to sell autographs is irrelevant, because it is AGAINST THE RULES.

    I think he should be able to. However, what I think doesn’t matter.

  31. be4bama says: Aug 4, 2013 9:48 PM

    If he keeps up all the crap soon he will need to change is name to
    Johnny Maninjail.

  32. hotlantalaw says: Aug 4, 2013 9:49 PM

    Get the bank accounts!

  33. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 4, 2013 10:00 PM

    To be honest…. this makes no sense. His dad is a millionaire and shown no restraint in giving Manziel whatever he wants. He’s been uber careful with his other offseason exploits as far as the NCAA is concerned. All of the trips to high profile events were cleared with the compliance department.

    It makes NO sense that he would jeopardize his future for 5 figures….

    I obviously HOPE this isn’t true…. but if it is…. Aggies all over Texas are going to be devastated.

    As far as the Heisman thing…. this allegedly happened after the last game of the season and shouldn’t affect his eligibility for the 2012 season.

  34. cbass59 says: Aug 4, 2013 10:19 PM

    While I think this is a nothing issue, OSU players and coach did get in trouble for selling their property for tattoos. A few years earlier a few were investigated for selling autographs for charity. Apparently the NCAA love to focus on real crimes.

  35. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Aug 4, 2013 10:43 PM

    @8to80texansblog

    You’re forgetting about the whole Johnny Manziel is a complete spoiled narcissist who is so reckless in his personal life that he would absolutely do something this dumb.

  36. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Aug 4, 2013 10:50 PM

    And anyone who is bringing up Ohio State, they weren’t punished for players selling their merchandise, they were punished for among other things

    1. Tressell telling the NCAA he had no idea about this violations
    2. Tressell destroying evidence to try and hide this
    3. Tressell knowing early and often about his players committing violations and knowingly playing players who were ineligible
    4. Ohio State being completely and totally unwilling to assist in their investigation and playing in some nonsense bowl game instead of vacating one (which was the main reason why the lost National Title this year)

    All OSU had to do to avoid anything more than minor violations was to tell the truth, which they went leaps and bounds out of their way to avoid doing. It cost Ohio State a shot at a title and it cost Tressell his job, and had a lot to do with Gordon Gee being thrown out of the university.

  37. gofish721 says: Aug 4, 2013 11:01 PM

    As a OSU fan, I just hate to agree with gatorbait and others that this is NOT like the Buckeyes fiasco. Tressel lied and then they played games, ergo the forfeiting of those games. At this point A&M has done nothing wrong as an institution (that we know of) and therefore they face no penalties. But if they did know about this through emails/calls and said nothing … oh wait, they saw how Tressel handled his snafu that way and EVERY coach now knows “DO NOT USE #@!!&%n TRACEABLE EMAILS/PHONE CALLS/___ ” in handling these situations and so I’m sure they have nothing to fear!

    I do think IF this whole thing is true, then the NCAA will have to take back the trophy or it will become a joke and it’ll lose credibility. It seems Manziel is about as reckless with his future as some guy I remember named Maurice Clarett! Throwing away his future because he can’t get out of his own way.

  38. bonfire85 says: Aug 4, 2013 11:16 PM

    Time will tell, but my guess is that other things are afoot here.

    Mainly the 10 milliion dollars ESPN gives to the U of T university for the priviliage of having the LHN each year and the hate the AD there has for A&M.

    This story will have legs….. just some legs that the orange and white might not like… when the AG of Texas gets involved.

    Of course the longhorns will bang back that the Gov of Texas is an Aggie and its political….

    If this is all political.. you f*cking teasips better get ready for a civil war.

  39. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Aug 4, 2013 11:32 PM

    @bonfire85

    You must have missed ESPN and the SEC signing a 20 year TV contract in May.

    If any media organization was involved in actively trying to take down an SEC school in some sort of anti-Texas conspiracy, it sure as hell wouldn’t be ESPN.

  40. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Aug 4, 2013 11:38 PM

    @stylin

    About the only thing factually correct in your drivel of a rant is that tOSU once had a coach named Tressel.

    I I initially wanted dissect and correct each your ‘points’, but what a colossal waste of energy that would be.

    Destroyed evidence? Not compliant?

    You are the true definition of a hater. Really textbook. You hate the Buckeyes sooooooo much, you wilnonexistent y opportunity to espouse nonsense based on a fringe understanding of a situation involving them with the hopes of appealing to someone similar to yourself who will in turn give u a little digital thumbs up, thus temporarily flashing a glimmer of your otherwise nonexistent self esteem.

    Well played.

  41. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Aug 4, 2013 11:40 PM

    *will take any

    Not sure what happened there…

  42. barbeaux says: Aug 5, 2013 12:06 AM

    What the hell is tOSU? I know there is an “Ohio State University.” Is there a second lesser known Ohio State University which requires alumnus of the more prominent Ohio State University to call it “*The* Ohio State University” so as to distinguish it from the other?

  43. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Aug 5, 2013 12:11 AM

    tOSU is actually used to distinguish it from Oklahoma State University.

    But, your explanation is much cooler.

  44. soflosportsfan says: Aug 5, 2013 12:30 AM

    Nothing will happen it’s the $EC.
    Even if the finding won’t be until after the season, if A&M wins anything it would be wiped away if found guilty
    Id rather see him fail on the field then be held off it.

  45. tackledummy1505 says: Aug 5, 2013 8:32 AM

    So players can’t break NCAA rules, but NCAA can benefit from that player’s name, number, and likeness. Lol that’s like your parent telling you, “Do as I say, not as I do Johnny!” Lol what a joke, the NCAA can be put in line for slavery and they break the law that all men are created equal. Not all men are created equal, except when a University associated with the NCAA gives you a scholarship then you forfeit all rights of your life to the NCAA until they see fit you used up you usefulness, leave to go professional, or graduate. Until then you will be slaved to the NCAA for their own profiting and financial establishment. What’s funny is don’t you think the Universities and NCAA make back the scholarships they give out, ten fold? It’s absolutely stunning how much they make off these kids and in return they get no guarantee back. Yeah if they get a degree that’s it. That degree doesn’t promise anything. Plenty of kids with 4 year degrees making crap money at poor jobs. The NCAA are slave owners and hustlers and I hope they get what they deserve in the end.

  46. goodellisruiningtheleague says: Aug 5, 2013 9:08 AM

    Just let college athletes be paid for playing and make them use some of that money to pay for the tuition.

  47. mediocrebob says: Aug 5, 2013 9:37 AM

    Why is this turned into a conversation about osu? Nobody feels bad for cheaters and nobody really cares about osu outside of Ohio (minus their alum).

  48. sillec28 says: Aug 5, 2013 9:39 AM

    I read stories about Johnny Football because I really enjoy train wrecks.

  49. florida727 says: Aug 5, 2013 9:39 AM

    If he was smart, paid in cash, and never deposited it in his own bank account, they’ll never trace it to him.

    Typical of our society: build him up to be the Second Coming, then do everything imaginable to tear him down.

  50. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Aug 5, 2013 11:22 AM

    @angelheartsbuckeyes

    Are you seriously still in denial about what your school did?

    Are you still claiming it was about tattoos?

    Hilarious.

  51. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 5, 2013 12:18 PM

    @bonfire85…

    From one Aggie to another…. this has nothing to do with Texas, nothing to do with LHN or ESPN, nothing to do with politics. This is Johnny Manziel being a spoiled brat.

    I love watching him play just as much as the next Aggie… maybe more. But it’s becoming apparent that he did sign the autographs for an autograph dealer. They may never be able to “prove” he received payment, but you and I know, he wouldn’t have done it for free.

    My guess, he got paid a fat stack of hundies behind closed doors, and blew it in Miami during the BCS Championship. No paper trail on his end, no proof.

    If it’s tru though… he needs to be suspended, 5 games min.

  52. baredon says: Aug 5, 2013 12:22 PM

    I have already said the kid can’t handle the pressure of the position… Why to go Johnny Kickball… Folding like a cheap suit…

    A&M better warm up the backup….

  53. Myron Mesecke says: Aug 5, 2013 12:39 PM

    Just one more Aggie that thinks the rules don’t apply to them.

  54. danolson68 says: Aug 5, 2013 1:24 PM

    “The topic of whether Manziel should or shouldn’t be allowed to profit off of his signature (he should) is another conversation.”

    I guess the days of unbiased, straight-news reporting are over. When I read an article I am uninterested in the personal opinion of the author.

  55. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Aug 5, 2013 1:53 PM

    @ barbeaux:
    The official name of Ohio State is The Ohio State University; hence, the use of tOSU.

  56. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Aug 5, 2013 1:57 PM

    @ mgmac:
    I noticed that in addition to calling me names you called somebody else names in a posting for another topic. I guess it is easy to be rude while hiding behind an a computer.

  57. dkhhuey says: Aug 5, 2013 4:34 PM

    Johnny Ineligible!!!

    For the Buckeye argument going on – the players got suspended based on the value of their transactions. The big ass whoppin came when it was discovered that Tressel committed some pretty heady violations on his own! OSU hammered themselves and the NCAA added to it – enough said!

    Now if it comes to the surface that other incidents happened before and/or during the season, then we have game forfeitures in the picture and if his coach knew about all this, then you can start comparing it to OSU – if it is just about Johnny Violation, then we’re talking oranges and apples here…

  58. billhicks666 says: Aug 5, 2013 8:16 PM

    @ bonfire85:

    Wow! Your unreasonable hatred for the University of Texas has completely blinded you to reality. Johnny Manzel (or however you spell his name – like it matters) is a spoiled brat who can’t handle his own success.
    And THAT is what really riles you up, isn’t it? The Aggies finally have something good happen for them in any sport that matters, and they can’t handle it. It’s all imploding after only one season. Leave success to those who know how to handle it – namely, THE University of Texas Longhorns.
    Thank you and have a nice day.

  59. be4bama says: Aug 5, 2013 9:18 PM

    666, what’s so great about UTexas?

  60. be4bama says: Aug 5, 2013 10:41 PM

    If he’s guilty we won’t have to give back the trophy. The “incident” occurred after he won it. And suspension, indefinitely. We will know in 3 weeks or less if he’s guilty.

  61. billhicks666 says: Aug 6, 2013 11:34 AM

    @ be4bama:

    Nothing. I’m just trying to get under a really stupid Texas A&M Aggie’s skin.

  62. irishfbfan1 says: Aug 7, 2013 4:09 AM

    This overrated bumbling stumbling fool won’t win the Heisman again, but he will get the “Double Standards” award.

    This happens at Stanford or Notre Dame as examples either team would have been crucified. Lol! I think he is on the verge of getting his very soon. Mr Double Standard that is!

  63. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 7, 2013 12:57 PM

    irishfbfan1 says:
    Aug 7, 2013 4:09 AM

    This happens at Stanford or Notre Dame as examples either team would have been crucified. Lol! I think he is on the verge of getting his very soon. Mr Double Standard that is!

    __________________________

    Yeah…. Lizzy Seeburg anyone.

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