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Tide a near unanimous No. 1 in preseason AP Top 25 poll

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If the headline sounds familiar, there’s a reason.

In addition to being a near unanimous preseason No. 1 team in this year’s USA Today coaches poll, Alabama received all but two first-place votes in this year’s preseason Associated Press top 25 poll. To the surprise of absolutely no one, the Tide are overwhelming favorites to get back to the BCS championship game, the final one before the start of College Football Playoff.

It’s the fourth time Alabama has been voted a preseason No. 1 team by the AP. However, only three times in the past 31 years have the AP preseason No. 1 team won a national title (Florida State in 1993 and ’99; USC in 2004).

Ohio State, the team many feel will challenge for a BCS title in 2013, received a No. 2 ranking with one first-place vote. Pac-12 North foes Oregon and Stanford come in a No. 3 and No. 4, and Georgia rounds out the top five with the final first-place vote. South Carolina comes in at No. 6, Texas A&M — currently with Johnny Manziel — ranks at No. 7, Clemson at No. 8, BCS title dark horse Louisville checks in at No. 9, and the Florida Gators finish out at No. 10.

The SEC leads all conferences with six teams in the poll, five of which are in the top 10. The Big Ten and Pac-12 have five teams each, with the Big 12 placing four teams. The ACC has two representatives, while the AAC and Mountain West each have one. And if you’re getting a sense of déjà vu, you’re not (completely) crazy. Nineteen of the teams featured in the AP and USA Today poll are in the exact same spots.

Below is the full top 25 poll with first-place votes in parentheses.

1. Alabama (58)
2. Ohio State (1)
3. Oregon
4. Stanford
5. Georgia (1)
6. South Carolina
7. Texas A&M
8. Clemson
9. Louisville
10. Florida
11. Florida State
12. LSU
13. Oklahoma State
14. Notre Dame
15. Texas
16. Oklahoma
17. Michigan
18. Nebraska
19. Boise State
20. TCU
21. UCLA
22. Northwestern
23. Wisconsin
24. USC
25. Oregon State

Others receiving votes: Michigan St. 95, Baylor 92, Virginia Tech 86, Miami 85, Arizona St. 53, Kansas St. 43, Fresno St. 36, Vanderbilt 19, Washington 17, Northern Illinois 16, Mississippi 11, Utah St. 8, Georgia Tech 6, Arizona 3, Cincinnati 3, North Carolina 3, Penn St. 2, BYU 1.

Some other notes from this year’s preseason poll:

– Alabama’s 58 first-place votes match Florida in 2009 for the highest percentage in poll history.

– In the past five years, four AP preseason No. 1 teams finished 10th or lower.

– Alabama is No. 1 in an AP poll for the sixth straight year. Since the poll began in 1936, only Miami (1986-92) has accomplished that feat.

– This is the seventh time that Ohio State has been named the No. 2 preseason team in the AP poll.

– Oklahoma State’s No. 13 preseason rank is the lowest a Big 12 team has been ranked to the start the season in conference history. Says something about how wide open the conference looks to be this year.

– Stanford (No. 4), South Carolina (No. 6) and Louisville (No. 9) have their highest AP preseason rankings in history.

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69 Responses to “Tide a near unanimous No. 1 in preseason AP Top 25 poll”
  1. tlmoon2112 says: Aug 17, 2013 10:41 AM

    Roll Turd!

    Facebook.com/CrimsonTurds

  2. kiopta1 says: Aug 17, 2013 10:59 AM

    Crimson Turds? Sounds like a horrible medical condition.

  3. vstar1us says: Aug 17, 2013 11:01 AM

    No matter the AP ranking just can’t wait till College Ball starts! Hope Tide kicks Tex A&M Butt…….

    I am a Ducks fan, but I love watching great college football..

  4. afrancis55 says: Aug 17, 2013 11:06 AM

    Trailer parks all across Tuscaloosa are celebrating now!

  5. afrancis55 says: Aug 17, 2013 11:10 AM

    Bama’s future non conference opponents: Billy Bob’s Truck Driving School, Stacy’s School of Cosmetics, Central Alabama Barber College, Helen Keller’s School for the Blind and Deaf

  6. bigdinla says: Aug 17, 2013 11:44 AM

    Lol at all the butt hurt trolls!

  7. bigdinla says: Aug 17, 2013 11:45 AM

    UGA received 1 vote and OSU the other vote.

  8. bigdinla says: Aug 17, 2013 11:46 AM

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/

    Might want to double check your post.

  9. ken49ers says: Aug 17, 2013 11:47 AM

    Must be nice to never have to play top ten teams, be ineligible to play a bowl game and conference championship the year before and be awarded the number 2 rank for proving nothing.

  10. cardmagnet says: Aug 17, 2013 12:02 PM

    Miami not being in the top 25 is a joke.

  11. Ben Kercheval says: Aug 17, 2013 12:29 PM

    Whoops. You’re right. Thank ya kindly!

  12. bertenheim says: Aug 17, 2013 12:53 PM

    The expression “butt hurt” is straight out of sixth grade. Or an SEC graduate program.

  13. barkleyblows says: Aug 17, 2013 1:06 PM

    “Bama’s future non conference opponents: Billy Bob’s Truck Driving School, Stacy’s School of Cosmetics, Central Alabama Barber College, Helen Keller’s School for the Blind and Deaf”

    This is being generous isn’t it??

    But it doesn’t matter what teams you play when you take PED’s. Just sayin. Whatever it takes to win!

  14. bertenheim says: Aug 17, 2013 1:17 PM

    In fairness, Alabama has Va Tech on the sked, and Saban favors nine conference games.
    A&M is a worse offender in the schedule debate.

  15. classyjacklambert says: Aug 17, 2013 1:18 PM

    How can you not vote the Tide as #1? I don’t even like them but there’s really no argument against it.

  16. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2013 1:18 PM

    bertenheim says: Aug 17, 2013 12:53 PM

    The expression “butt hurt” is straight out of sixth grade. Or an SEC graduate program.
    ____________________________

    Yep, your right. We’re taught to communicate with our target audiences, B1G and Notre Dame grads, who have yet to master remedial reading and comprehension programs (much less learn to play football). Come back when you can read, write and play football.

    RTR

  17. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2013 1:26 PM

    bertenheim says: Aug 17, 2013 1:17 PM

    In fairness, Alabama has Va Tech on the sked, and Saban favors nine conference games.
    A&M is a worse offender in the schedule debate.

    Looking @ A&M’s schedule, 7 teams were in bowl games last year and Sam Houston was in their division championship playoffs.

    How many bowl teams did your team have?

  18. fnc111 says: Aug 17, 2013 1:27 PM

    Go Irish!!!! I pray Kelly wakes up this year and pounds scUM instead of consistently backing down to his wife’s alma mater.

  19. bertenheim says: Aug 17, 2013 1:32 PM

    No FLA, no UGA, no S.Car.
    Three non-AQs and an FCS, all at home.
    Do not pretend A&M’s sked approximates LSU’s or UGA’s or FLA’s.

  20. bertenheim says: Aug 17, 2013 1:35 PM

    amosalanzostagg,

    Per your (likely) SEC education:
    your: second-person possessive.
    you’re: contraction, you are.

  21. normtide says: Aug 17, 2013 1:42 PM

    Wow Barkley, an OSU fan calling out another teams schedule? That’s funny. Almost as funny as tlmoon finding out his kids were actually fathered by an Alabama alum. Weird how when you make those crazy FB pages, your own dirty laundry comes out.

    Looking forward to some football. Best of luck to everyone.

  22. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2013 2:01 PM

    bertenheim says: Aug 17, 2013 1:35 PM

    amosalanzostagg,

    Per your (likely) SEC education:
    your: second-person possessive.
    you’re: contraction, you are.

    Congrats!

    I was checking to see if you could read. Good Job! Now go ask mommy for a cookie and a glass of milk and I’ll see if she can upgrade your reading material up to Dr. Seuss.

    How many bowl teams does your team have on it’s schedule?
    Did your team even make a bowl?
    Is your team even ranked?

    I know, I know your head head hurts from all the questions. Try to relax by reading (and comprehending) “The Little Train that Could”.

    Think you can! think you can! think you can!

    Keep up the good work.

    RTR

  23. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Aug 17, 2013 2:05 PM

    Am I the only one who wonders why a voter from Baton Rouge, LA gave Georgia a #1 vote and why a voter from Champaign, Illinois gave Ohio State a #1 vote?

    Seems weird. Not that it matters whatsoever, seeing as how the AP vote is completely meaningless in the grand scheme of the BCS.

    (Georgia’s #1 vote was Glenn Guilbeau – Gannett Louisiana News Service, Ohio State’s #1 was Bob Asmussen – Champaign News-Gazette)

  24. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2013 2:10 PM

    Bertenheim.

    My team Alabama, doesn’t see the likes of SC,Fla, nor Ga until the SEC championship game. Look at our cross over games. Our schedule is weak because no team with National Championship dreams even wants to touch the Crimson Tide. Ask Michigan how opening up against Alabama worked out for them last year?

    You have to play who is scheduled.

    A&M is in it’s second year in the SEC, their non conference scheduling blew up when they moved from the New Big 10. You have to schedule what you can do in a short term basis, which every AD tries to do.

    You’d agree that A&M’s schedule is an upgrade over last year’s. Gone is SC St. The Aggies will be fine.

    Are you going to answer who your team is, how many bowl teams are on your
    schedule and is your team ranked?

    RTR

  25. bertenheim says: Aug 17, 2013 2:22 PM

    amosalanzostagg ,

    Future reference:
    their: third-person collective possessive.
    there: a location elsewhere.
    they’re: contraction, they are.

  26. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Aug 17, 2013 2:32 PM

    @amosalanzostagg

    More like SEC rack up cupcake OOC games so they can inflate their records, then claim dominance when every team in the conference starts 3-0.

    The flawed polling system rewards this by basically making every SEC game a match up of two ranked teams, based only on preseason rank and cupcake OOC wins. With half the conference already in the top 15 without playing a game, it pretty much assures that one SEC will always be moving up once conference play starts.

    Take Florida for example, they haven’t played an OOC game outside of the state of Florida since 1991. 1991!

    While other teams are playing huge conference games late in the season, Alabama is playing the Chattanooga Mocs on the 2nd to last week of the year.

    It’s absolutely no coincidence that the SEC started their run on titles the year after Strength of Schedule was removed from the BCS formula.

  27. watchfullhose says: Aug 17, 2013 3:44 PM

    Would be nice if SEC teams played out-of-conference “home and home” match ups. I feel like they only play away games at a “neutral site”. That’s kind of weak IMO

  28. normtide says: Aug 17, 2013 3:47 PM

    Those arguments roils be valid, except the fact that SEC teams are always atop the SOS ratings.

  29. dcroz says: Aug 17, 2013 4:09 PM

    YouMad:

    The reason why Alabama is playing Chattanooga in November is because before college football went to a 12-game schedule, that was always a bye week heading into the Iron Bowl. Major football programs that have a bye week at the same time and want to play a major OOC game that late in the schedule are hard to come by, if not impossible. And why does it matter when ‘Bama plays the Mocs? What difference does it make if it is in November or September?

  30. JeffFisherandPeterKingEatIceCreamandRideTandemBikesTogether says: Aug 17, 2013 5:03 PM

    Wow, Bama plays exactly two ranked teams this year. Impressive.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/333/alabama-crimson-tide

  31. JeffFisherandPeterKingEatIceCreamandRideTandemBikesTogether says: Aug 17, 2013 5:05 PM

    Crimson Matadors.

  32. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2013 6:53 PM

    bertenheim wrote on: Aug 17, 2013 2:22 PM

    amosalanzostagg ,

    Future reference:
    their: third-person collective possessive.
    there: a location elsewhere.
    they’re: contraction, they are.

    Obviously, it must gall you that an SEC grad has command of the Queen’s English and has to educate an inferior like yourself when you fail to answer simple, direct questions. Your feeble attempts to impress are duly noted as you’re trying. Now go
    along and tell Mommy that you’re hungry and need a snack because you can’t compete with the SEC in football, education, or intellect.

    Now, go ask Mommy

    “What school does Daddy cheer for?

    “What bowl teams were on Daddy’s football team’s schedule?” and

    ‘Is Daddy’s school ranked?”

    I know, I know…..it’s hard to remember with your affliction, but do try. I believe in you.

    What chapter are you on in the “Little Engine that Could”.

    The blog eagerly awaits your answers to three simple, direct questions. Think you can, think you can, think you can.

    Like Bobby Boucher Jr would say

  33. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2013 7:19 PM

    normtide says: Aug 17, 2013 3:47 PM

    Those arguments roils be valid, except the fact that SEC teams are always atop the SOS ratings.

    Norm,

    Agree.

    SEC envy is strong again this year. Year after year, the same tired points of order.
    They can’t win on the field, so they try to make themselves feel good about the education of their conference schools.

    They can’t win bowl games or national championships, so they say we cheat.
    The NCAA doesn’t have any active investigations on any SEC school, so they
    have to try to find something to assuage their inferiority complex.

    So they attack SoS, again a losing proposition when you look at last year’s
    final standings.

    Alabama has been very fortunate to have the success they have had the last few
    years, the run will come to an end and all we’ll have are the memories……

    and the hardware.

    7 straight National Championships.

    RTR

  34. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2013 7:23 PM

    Why SEC football reigns surpreme.

  35. tony34343434 says: Aug 17, 2013 7:52 PM

    Bama is number one just like the GPA for the graduates. 1.0 is about right for the football team.

    with a bama degree you can get the double wide trailer and a job at the piggly wiggly. nice life if you can get it.

    keep rooting for an entire conference it is sad, really sad. makes one think you are all lacking something, either in your head or in your shorts.

  36. normtide says: Aug 17, 2013 7:55 PM

    If your going to call other people stupid, you should probably use punctuation. Then again, are there really any grammar rules for jealous rants?

  37. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Aug 17, 2013 8:45 PM

    @normtide

    The SEC is at the top of the SOS standings because they inflate their records with cupcake schedules and a hilariously mediocre bottom of a conference.

    It’s not really that difficult to figure out.

    If every team starts out 3-0 or 4-0 with games against glorified high school teams, and then continues to play teams that are 4-0, 5-1, 6-1, ect. and so on, of course it will inflate their SOS.

    It’s what makes the entire preseason polling system flawed. When the polls give the SEC half their teams in the top 15, it’s almost a lock one of them gets in the game because no matter what happens, someone will always move up because they were spotted a huge lead on the rest of the NCAA.

    It’s the same system that kept teams like Boise State and TCU out of the title game as unbeaten teams, because they started so far behind the pack in this mythical preseason ranking, they couldn’t catch up by the end of the year.

  38. normtide says: Aug 17, 2013 8:55 PM

    So your telling me Miami has a tougher schedule? You complain about an easy OOC slate, I’m complaining about an easy ACC league slate. Five SEC teams are top ten, maybe one ACC team is. In fact, who does the canes play that matches up to LSU or TA&M? Bama plays 2 programs that has won a title over the last 7 years, how many does Miami play? The ACC is widely considered to be the weakest of the big 5 leagues, and your talking about SEC teams playing weak opponents?

  39. normtide says: Aug 17, 2013 9:05 PM

    That’s right, you play one regent title winner, and guess what, its from the SEC. That’s irony, your OOC is awesome because you play one SEC team. Meanwhile, a team that plays 8, maybe 9 SEC teams had a weak schedule. You have to see the problem with that line of thinking.

  40. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2013 10:10 PM

    Normtide,

    Again SEC envy. Take a look at graduation rates from the the NCAA for 2012. The SEC can play football and graduate their players.

    The NCAA’s four-year Graduation Success Rate statistics for the Top 25 teams currently in The Associated Press college football poll. The report was released Thursday:

    1. Alabama 75 percent

    2. Oregon 64 percent

    3. Florida75 percent

    4. Kansas St.58 percent

    5. Notre Dame97 percent

    6. LSU77 percent

    7. Oregon St. 60 percent

    8. Oklahoma47 percent

    9. Ohio State74 percent

    10. USC57 percent

    11. Florida St.55 percent

    12. Georgia69 percent

    13. Mississippi St.60 percent

    14. Clemson75 percent

    15. Texas Tech66 percent

    16. Louisville63 percent

    17. South Carolina55 percent

    18. Rutgers91 percent

    19. Stanford90 percent

    20. Michigan69 percent

    21. Boise St. 81 percent

    22. Texas A&M69 percent

    23. Ohio74 percent

    24. Louisiana Tech73 percent

    25. West Virginia79 percent

    So Alabama wins on the field and in the the classroom.

  41. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2013 10:20 PM

    Normtide,

    The Southeastern Conference’s football dominance extends to the classroom, too, at least as measured by the GSR. Of teams in the coaches poll for 2012, the most current reporting from the NCAA, the SEC had five of the top 13 when ordered by GSR. Football heavyweights LSU (No 6, 77% GSR), Alabama (No. 7, 75%) and Florida (No. 8, 75%) led the way for the SEC.

    Expect more SEC envy.

    Brains and Brawn. Another reason to hate on the SEC. The SEC has four AAU schools (since the B1G loves to quote that admirable stat) in Texas A&M, Missouri, Florida, and Vanderbilt. Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina, Arkansas and Alabama have AAU membership applications pending for approval.

    RTR

  42. normtide says: Aug 17, 2013 10:21 PM

    Amos, Don’t bring facts into the conversation, lol. I’m open your debate, but it seems people just want to make excuses as to why SEC teams have dominated football.

  43. thetooloftools says: Aug 17, 2013 11:16 PM

    Here Comes Honey Buckeyes. Time to kick more (|).

  44. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Aug 18, 2013 12:29 AM

    @normtide

    “In fact, who does the canes play that matches up to LSU or TA&M? Bama plays 2 programs that has won a title over the last 7 years, how many does Miami play?”

    Miami plays Florida 2nd game of the season, a team that beat both Texas A&M and LSU last year and has 2 championships in the last 7 years.

    (They’ll also likely draw Clemson in the ACCGC, a team that beat LSU as well last year)

    Also the fact that you include god awful Auburn as some sort of threat in 2013 because they won* a championship a couple of years ago is laughably desperate.

    Work a little harder and come back next time with an argument better that “MUH RINGZ”

  45. normtide says: Aug 18, 2013 12:42 AM

    Again, your argument is based on you playing AN SEC TEAM. If Florida is good enough to make your schedule strong, will possibly play Bama in the SEC CCG. (See how I used your logic?) At least Auburn can put together a strong season, they have proven it. Also, didn’t South Carolina beat Clemson last year? And UF beat FSU? And UGA beat GT? I’m still waiting for you to show me how Miami has a stronger SOS then Bama. All you have implied is that since you play an SEC team, your OOC slate is strong. To that I reply, we play 8 SEC teams. With a possibility that we play a ninth. Maybe even the team that makes yours so awesome.

  46. florida727 says: Aug 18, 2013 10:01 AM

    Florida’s non-conference schedule includes Toledo, Georgia Southern, Miami (FL), and Florida State, so I don’t think we have anything to apologize for schedule-wise. GS has won 6 national championships at their level, and Toledo is coming off their first ever final-poll-being-ranked season. Don’t think I have to justify Miami and FSU being on the schedule.

    If anyone wants to knock our schedule, the only way to do that is to complain about us having two bye weeks, one in October, the other at Kentucky :)

  47. greggatx says: Aug 18, 2013 1:09 PM

    The pre-season polls rarely reflect the season ending polls. The University of Texas Longhorns will end up somewhere in the top 5 and the Tide will be flat this year ending up in the bottom part of the top 10. As far as the aggies are concerned they will revert back to their typical aggie ways because, well, they are aggies. Hook’em Horns!!

  48. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Aug 18, 2013 1:39 PM

    @normtide

    “To that I reply, we play 8 SEC teams. With a possibility that we play a ninth. Maybe even the team that makes yours so awesome.”

    You play a Texas A&M team that may not have their starting QB and a hilariously overrated LSU team.

    The other SEC super teams you face are Ole Miss (garbage), Kentucky (garbage), Tennessee (garbage), Mississippi State (garbage), Arkansas (garbage) and Auburn (garbage).

    UK, UT, Arkansas and Auburn were so bad last year that they all have new coaching staffs.

    The bottom of the SEC is bad, no matter how much you want to pretend it isn’t.

    Lets stop pretending your 8 SEC games are all BCS quality matchups. 2 of them are, maybe 1 depending on how Johnny Autographs turns out.

    How will Alabama ever get through that gauntlet? Throw in Colorado State, Georgia State and Chattanooga you might have the toughest schedule in the history of college football. How will Saban ever get through that?

  49. normtide says: Aug 18, 2013 2:07 PM

    You keep dancing around the argument. Show me how Miami has a stronger schedule. Florida Atlantic? Savannah state? South Florida? Gt? UNC? DUKE? Virginia? Pitt? You call that murders row? Or you only expect us to play better teams, while the canes play high school teams? Do you leave the state of Florida for an OOC game? You say LSU and A&M are chumps, but you bragged that you play a UF team that beat them. I see, they are great if it makes your team look strong, but weak for others.

    Are you new to debates? Because you are making my argument for me. Your team can’t win the ACC, and your trying to rip SEC teams. Or maybe your just trying to bee funny, cause I’m laughing a lot.

  50. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 18, 2013 6:23 PM

    Norm,

    I know facts are pesky things, but the Canes have to try to do something to try to be relevant again. They’re still under the cloud of the NCAA investigation, they have become a mere shell of what they used to be, and they are the number three program in their state and falling fast.

    When they become relevant again, then just maybe they’ll have an argument, but for now, they are as the Bard said “All sound and fury signifying nothing.”

    RTR

  51. faaast1 says: Aug 18, 2013 6:44 PM

    South Carolina #6–yeah right.
    Spurrier talks a good game, and the press laps it right up.
    Florida, Clemson, and @ Georgia.
    I’ll be surprised if the Gamecocks finish in the top 10.
    USC–the original (1801)–probably will beat perennial, national power Coastal Carolina.
    I wonder if they are planning a home & home series.
    Probably not. I can’t see the ‘Cocks giving away that much ca$h, by playing in Conway.

  52. normtide says: Aug 18, 2013 6:58 PM

    Amos, I’m more then willing to have a healthy debate, but one has to expect facts would be presented. Would Styles expect Miami to be held out of the title game, should they go undefeated, because they clearly have a very weak SOS? I think Bama has a much stronger slate, compared to the Canes, and I’m waiting on him to prove me wrong. Or, at least bring some facts to the argument.

    I don’t dislike Miami. I believe they are sleeping giants. I’ve been to South Beach, it shouldn’t be very hard to convince young men to live there for 3 or 4 years. All they need is the right coach. A top notch leader could have them on top, in 2 or 3 years, easily.

  53. faaast1 says: Aug 18, 2013 7:10 PM

    Re: Miami ^
    Yeah it should be easy to recruit there, especially with all the money those “$tudent atheletes” get paid.

  54. tientzu1 says: Aug 19, 2013 3:48 PM

    Does anyone even look at the schedules and who beat who to get their records? MissSt went 8-5 last year. On the face of it, not a bad year and bolsters the “every game in the SEC is hard” argument. But look who they beat; Jackson St., Auburn, Troy, South Alabama, Kentucky, UTenn, Mid Tenn and Arkansas… Vandy goes 9-4 but beat Presbyterian, Missouri, UMass, Kentucky, Ole Miss, UTenn, Wake Forest and NC State….I’m sorry but that doesn’t impress me.

  55. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 20, 2013 9:25 AM

    SEC envy means the season is starting. Tell you what,
    have your school’s AD call the Bama AD and schedule
    a three game series with your school, 2 @ Bama and one at your place.

    Will never happen because any school with National Title ambitions won’t schedule Bama now because they don’t want a loss affecting their BCS chances.
    Ask last year’s Michigan team with their bookend losses to SEC teams, how did that work out for them?

    Why the SEC is the best

  56. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 20, 2013 11:17 AM

    greggatx says:
    Aug 18, 2013 1:09 PM
    The pre-season polls rarely reflect the season ending polls. The University of Texas Longhorns will end up somewhere in the top 5 and the Tide will be flat this year ending up in the bottom part of the top 10. As far as the aggies are concerned they will revert back to their typical aggie ways because, well, they are aggies. Hook’em Horns!!

    _________________________

    That’s funny…. Where were the Horns ranked in the preseason poll of their own conference?

    Typical Tsip troll post….

    How bad did you guys lose to a team we beat by 28??

  57. greggatx says: Aug 20, 2013 10:26 PM

    To 8to80texansblog:
    Last year is history. We’ve had a couple bad years in a row. You’ll be surprised by this years’ team. So tell me what school you support? I hope its not the aggies!

    You call me a troll even though my team is in the top 25! What a moron!! There are only about two schools that we have a losing record with!! And here is a hint: It is not the tide, the sooners or the aggies. Hook’em Horns!!

    8to80texansblog says:

  58. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 20, 2013 11:00 PM

    gregg,

    It has taken three years for Texas to recover from Bama beating Texas in the national championship game. Some hangover

    Since then, Texas has tried to move to two different conferences, (The B1G and the PAC12, both turned you down because no one wants Sybill in their conference.) gave the SEC not one, but two GREAT universities for our conference and the best reason, gave us your TV markets and recruits to now add to
    all of our conference teams. !

    Thanks!, we get Texas A&M and none of the headaches that accompany Texas and Texas gets to dominate Iowa State, Texas Tech, Kansas, et al. in a new and improved
    Big 8 Conference.

    RTR

  59. greggatx says: Aug 21, 2013 2:05 AM

    amosalanzostagg,
    You can’t win every year. No doubt they looked sad for those years. Bad choices and injuries have hurt us and hopefully they are in the past.
    But its a new year and we will see what happens!

    Texas didn’t try to move to any conference! Those other conferences wanted Texas for the money and prestige they would bring. There was NO WAY Texas would join a west coast conference.

    You will find out soon enough how great the tigers and aggies are (lol). Good luck!! If anything they made your conference weaker. The aggies are happy to leave because they are tired of Texas beating them all the time!! We are 76-37-5 against those aggies!! lol And our record against the current sec teams is 11-6-1 in Bowl games.

    Here’s the thing y’all can’t dominate us! haha

  60. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 21, 2013 9:32 AM

    gregg,

    Nice try.

    Texas actively recruited the B1G to join mere days after getting beat by Bama in the national championship game. Texas wanted to join the B1G as a way to obtain federal funding for research grants that the B1G had been negotiating for nearly a decade with the federal government. B1G chancellors and presidents DO not like the University of Texas, period. They politely declined Texas REPEATED efforts to try to join the B1G. They said thanks, but no thanks.

    As to the PAC12, Texas went to the PAC12 to have them admit Texas, OU, OSU and TTU as a quadrant in revised 4 team sections. When Texas played UCLA in LA, the PAC 12 commissioner bluntly told Bill Powers, UT’s President, that Tech and OSU were substantially sub standard in the academic arena and that unless Texas was willing to subordinate all the TV rights of the LHN to the PAC12 conference, there would be no interest in Texas. Powers to the commissioner that he would have Deloss Dodds get back in touch with him. Guess what, Deloss has never contacted the PAC 12 office…. ever,….crickets.

    Texas DOESN’T have the necessary votes in the PAC12, the SEC, nor the B1G because Texas is viewed as a parasite looking for a host. University Chancellors and
    Presidents and AD’s have talked with their counterparts across the country. You have burned so many people, they do not trust Texas, all you have to do is ask any Sr Administrator at Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, and Texas A&M, much less any
    research quality control administrator with a major research university and they will tell you straight to your face, they ABHOR the University of Texas for decades.

    If Texas was so popular and in demand for the so called TV market and prestige of being Texas, explain why the B1G went after Rutgers and Maryland as full fledge
    members and not mighty Texas? Could it be that a maturing Eastern seaboard TV market place is much more attractive than dealing with the likes of Texas and all the headaches they provide?

    We got the right Texas school in Texas A&M to join the SEC. Enjoy your boutique conference with all those powerhouses like Baylor and TCU and Iowa State and Kansas and WVU. Texas should dominate such a weak conference.

    RTR

  61. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 21, 2013 9:43 AM

    Gregg,

    You can’t dominate your own conference To wit

    and look what our fifth place team did to your conference co-champions.

    Alabama is what Texas wants to be when they try to put their big boy pants on.

    RTR

    P.S.

    It took you three years to get over Bama beating you in the National Championship game and you’re
    crowing about being RANKED? With all of Texas’s
    resources? With top ten recruiting classes? With the largest budget in all of college sports? LMAO.

  62. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 21, 2013 9:59 AM

    greggatx says:
    Aug 20, 2013 10:26 PM

    You call me a troll even though my team is in the top 25! What a moron!! There are only about two schools that we have a losing record with!! And here is a hint: It is not the tide, the sooners or the aggies. Hook’em Horns!!

    ___________________________

    Being in the top 25 doesn’t exempt a program from having troll fans…. Bama has troll fans…

    And the reason I dubbed you a troll is because you come in and post that the horns will be a top 5 team at the end of the season but don’t say how or why, so we’re just supposed to assume it’s because you’re the mighty longhorns and that’s just what you do. Then you you say the Aggies are not going to be successful…. because they are Aggies…. Typical troll post.

    You want to tell me that, yes my Aggies, are going to fail because of the controversy surrounding Johnny Manziel, or maybe we lost too many seniors, or our defense isn’t as good as it was last year. Ok… go for it. But to say we won’t be as good because… wait for it… we’re Aggies… that’s the definition of a troll post.

  63. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 22, 2013 11:38 PM

    Gregg,

    What’s your record against Kansas State and UCLA?

    Gregg, why not ditch New Mexico, BYU and Ole Miss
    and schedule some big boys. Better yet, why not have some real teams in your league that don’t embarrass themselves on the national stage?

    Oh, too late!, Texas already did that when they played OU and OU did that when A&M played them.

    Enjoy your boutique conference and make sure you wear your “Paddle faster, I hear banjos!” shirts when you play in Morgantown.

    The University of Texas doing less with more money.

    RTR

  64. greggatx says: Aug 23, 2013 10:25 PM

    amosalanzostagg:
    All that you wrote is just your opinion. UT’s record against K.S. and UCLA is 6-8 and 3-3. Not good but not bad. Texas record agaist Alabama is 7-1-1. That must hurt! Alabama’s non conference schedule is not that great either with Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Colorado St. and Chattanooga. Not very tuff. Crowing about beating a team that loses their future pro QB in the 1st quarter is not that impressive.

    8to80texansblog:
    I knew you were an aggie. lol I bet 2011 still hurts when you got beat by a sub par team (8-5) in the last second in aggieland, 27-25! ha That made the season worth it. Over all 76-37 -5. Ouch! The troll here is you. You think one good season makes a power house. Johnny may not even play football college again. He does seem to fit in with the sec though. The aggies have a history of choking, it’s in y’alls blood. UT has a top caliber QB back, much improved O and D line, two top defenders healthy again (lost all last season), healthy dominate running backs and a good crop of receivers. That’s how they will be in the top five at the end of the season!

  65. bamafan36 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:50 AM

    You idiot’s that talk about scheduling weaker OOC and FCS schools, should do a little research. Ask Georgia State what they gain by playing Alabama. Their football program has been in existence for four years, and they now have the funding (thanks to the $3.5mm from playing Bama) to not only recruit better, build new facilities, but also join a conference.

    Besides, what I think gets lost in all of that, is the fact that your unbeaten juggernaut last year, got their pants pulled down behind the woodshed and were whipped for four full quarters.

    Some of you guys talk about SOS like the AD’s know what the strength of a team will be three years from today….which is when the division foe’s are added to schedules. SMH

  66. bamafan36 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:55 AM

    If the top 25% from every other conference joined the SEC, we would no longer see Kentucky, Vandy, Arkansas, and Mississippi State at the bottom. Your best couldn’t handle having to play our schedules. THAT is why we root for our enemy during Bowl season! It’s about respect!

  67. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 24, 2013 3:07 PM

    Gregg,

    Again, like Texas supporters, you are a one note charlie.

    Fact, Texas did try to move to the B1G and the PAC12, Both conferences said “Thanks, but no thanks” to Texas because of the reputation that Texas has nationally. University Presidents and Chancellors HATE Texas. They may have to deal with Texas, but they don’t have to have them in their conferences. Texas has polluted the well so bad that school administrators from Colorado and Nebraska and Missouri and Texas A&M ACTIVELY market against Texas. The consensus is that University Presidents and Chancellors know that Texas is the equivalent of a streetwalker plying her wares to the highest bidder and that if you get into bed with Texas don’t come complaining about whatever “residue” that the experience with Texas leaves you with. Deal with it. You now have a boutique conference just like you had in the SWC with two dominant schools and the rest along for the ride.
    Given Texas resources, location and recruiting you SHOULD be dominating your conference annually and you can’t. You can’t beat OU.

    Lifetime record, you got us. Since the advent of the cable sports network, (1980) you’re 1-1 and still smarting from the beating you suffered in the National Championship game THREE years ago.

    Colt McCoy an NFL QB, now that is a good joke.

    The only things you did right was (1.) give the SEC, Texas A&M and Missouri, (2.) open up the entire State of Texas to SEC recruiting, and (3.) give us your TV markets for the SEC network. For that we thank you.

    Closing question.

    How many National Championships in Football does Texas have?

    How many National Championships in Football does Alabama have?

    RTR

  68. greggatx says: Aug 25, 2013 11:15 PM

    bamafan36:
    All weaker schools benefit from playing top ranked schools because they get more money. The top ranked schools don’t benefit because it weaks the schedule. duh!

    amosalanzostagg:
    Texas only explored the changing of conferences because there was movement all over and the Big 12 might have desolved. There was no way Texas was going to the west coast conference. Costs would be too high. The Big 10 was an option but didn’t pan out. Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri and Texas A&M don’t like Texas because they can’t beat Texas. They can’t generate the same cash flow and support as Texas.

    It’s a laugh if you think we are still thinking about how you squeaked by in the National Championship game. Wow you beat a team without their starting QB! Your first and only win against us and seven loses. Texas holds a 189–92–10 all-time record against the Southeastern Conference.

    Texas has 4 (1963,1969,170,and 2005) and also been awarded twelve other national championships by various polling organizations:
    1914, 1918, 1930, 1941, 1945, 1947, 1950, 1961, 1968, 1977, 1981, and 2008.

    McCoy does hold the NCAA record for most wins, not anyone form alabama or the sec.

    The aggies could not win in the Big 12 but now they are one of the top teams in the sec!

  69. bamafan36 says: Aug 26, 2013 7:31 AM

    LOL! We are not talking about weaker schools….we are talking about Div II and FCS. Those schools don’t just get money from TV networks for playing the Big Boys, they also get money from the Big Boys. Like I said, we have given GSU over $3mm in the last four years. Again…..THAT is the reason these guys are now able to compete. Duh!

    As far as “squeaking by” with an 11 point win, that was not even as close as that: we throttled Tejas! When our 3rd string was in, you started coming back. The moment Colt “Glass Jaw” McCoy left the game with a “shoulder injury”, that game was over! Kellen Moore (Boise State) holds the record with most wins by a starting QB, with 50 (McCoy has 45). AJ (Alabama) will move into 2nd place this season, with just an 11 win run (currently has 35 wins as a starter).

    Tejas has been discovered for what it is….a whoremonger. She is why the Big12 disbanded. Her overwhelming parsimonious behavior, has weakened that conference, the school, and the network. Your school is no longer a powerhouse.

    As for aTm being a middle tier (not a top tier) team in the SEC, insert Johnny Manziel. They beat Oklahoma last year, 41-13. That same team beat y’all 63-21 last year. Our middle tier (finished in 4th place in the SEC, 3rd in the SEC West) team is better than your best team! If aTm were still in that shell you call a conference, they would have finished undefeated last year, and played ND for the BCS. And, everyone that doesn’t wear pumpkin orange knows that!

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