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Video: ex-NCAA VP Julie Roe Lach discusses SEC agent scandal

Alabama offensive linemen Fluker and Kouandjio celebrate after defeating the Georgia during the NCAA SEC college football championship in Atlanta. Reuters

As you no doubt have heard by now, four former and one current SEC players were named by Yahoo! Sports as allegedly having received impermissible cash benefits from agents through a middle man, a former Alabama Crimson Tide football player.

Just what the fallout from the allegations will be is far from being determined at this point, although there’s already talk that it could have an impact on the most recent of Alabama’s BCS titles as former Tide offensive lineman D.J. Fluker is among those accused.

Appearing on the NBC Sports Network’s SportsDash show, Julie Roe Lach, former NCAA VP of Enforcement, takes a look at the evidence presented in the Yahoo! report and how her former employer may proceed moving forward.


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21 Responses to “Video: ex-NCAA VP Julie Roe Lach discusses SEC agent scandal”
  1. pricecube says: Sep 12, 2013 2:24 PM

    This could get interesting… There was no evidence that USC had direct knowledge of Reggie Bush receiving improper benefits.

  2. alligatorsnapper says: Sep 12, 2013 2:43 PM

    How can a school police all its players all the time? Agents can be prohibited from school and they just hire another runner.

    If, however, Alabama discovered the “impermissible cash benefits” and most especially if they completely and totally comply with the NCAA investigation at every step, they may avoid losing a national championship and games. It was not too long ago that Alabama lost many wins in multiple seasons. This could be very serious or could be far less serious, dependent upon what Alabama knew and when and what they did after they knew.

    Note: Crimson Tide fans can thank southernpatriots doc for providing me with the NCAA insight, balance and grace here.

  3. packerbadger says: Sep 12, 2013 2:45 PM

    $EC (that stands for Somewhat Educated Conference) tip of the scandalous iceberg being exposed. If ya can’t beat’em, cheat’em! Gonna go get my popcorn to watch the rest of this show. Of course, the $EC faithful will stick by and defend their cheaters…… thats because they’ve got nothing else going on down there other than college football; esp in Alabama!

  4. Deb says: Sep 12, 2013 2:53 PM

    I don’t know all the details on this, but one reason Alabama forfeited all those wins is they allowed an attorney with more academic experience than trial experience to represent their interests. The attorney just stipulated to everything–even where evidence was questionable. I’m reasonably sure the school will be better advised in the future.

  5. packerbadger says: Sep 12, 2013 3:18 PM

    Alabama spelling bee:
    Spell…. “Education”
    Alabama student…….”E d j a m a c a t i o n…..edjamacation”.
    Very good Billy Bob, you were the closest to spelling it correctly! Now, you get to go represent our state at the national spelling bee!
    (Billy Jo Bob unfortunately failed in the first round with the word “mom”)
    Billy Jo Bobs well connected uncle was fortunately able to get him into the University of Alabama on a full ride academic scholarship 5 years later.

  6. theheat813 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:38 PM

    Hey Deb, the lawyer “stipulated” to everything? Let me guess, you’re an SEC alumnus?

  7. detectivejimmymcnulty says: Sep 12, 2013 3:39 PM

    Whats funny is people cant wait to have something negative about the SEC. This happens everywhere in all parts of the country. Oregon looked like they would get hammered for the Willie Lyles situation and they pretty much got nothing.

    Who wins here is OkSt. There is some crazy things reported (doesn’t make them true) but instead people focus on the SEC and 5 guys.

  8. dhlions says: Sep 12, 2013 3:48 PM


    Who cares what the lawyer did? That was an NCAA issue, not a legal issue. Just like this [potential issue].

  9. rponciano says: Sep 12, 2013 3:55 PM

    Julie Roe Lach has always been a first class person, she was also Mark Emmerts sacrificial lamb regarding the Miami case. I would love to know her take on what to do when the NCAA itself, covers up their own misdeeds. Let’s say a high ranking official from the NCAA lied to the infractions committee. Emmert knows, Duncon, and Shepard know as well, and have done nothing! What would she do?

  10. microbrewuga says: Sep 12, 2013 4:52 PM

    I believe Deb knows her legal verbs @ the heat:

    In the law of the United States, a stipulation is an agreement made between opposing parties prior to a pending hearing or trial. For example, both parties might stipulate to certain facts, and therefore not have to argue those facts in court.

  11. Deb says: Sep 12, 2013 5:11 PM

    @microbrewuga …

    Thank you. And that is exactly what happened according to the LAWYERS who related the story to me. The inexperienced attorney made no effort to investigate and counter the allegations. He just stipulated that whatever the NCAA alleged was true and went from there.

    dhlions, it doesn’t matter that it’s not a court proceeding. The school still has the opportunity to present its case to the NCAA and present any evidence to counter the allegations. Alabama’s attorney failed to do that.

    I realize you guys hate Alabama. But in your desperate desire to demonstrate that, you all just wound up looking like the ignorant, uninformed asses you are. Thanks! I enjoyed that! :)

  12. Deb says: Sep 12, 2013 5:58 PM

    @theheat813 …

    You don’t know the word “stipulated” in its legal context? Let me guess … you and your little thumbers aren’t alumni of anything. 😀

  13. mrlitl says: Sep 12, 2013 6:41 PM

    RTR Deb. Thanks for always representing so well. There’re some real idiots on this site.

  14. thekatman says: Sep 12, 2013 8:24 PM

    Supporting what @pricecube stated, USC was found guilty of Failurte to Monitor, because they “should have known” about Regiie Bush’s iongoings when he was in San Diego on weekends and in between semesters, 120+ miles away from campus. And that USC should’ve known what Reggie Bush’s parents were up to with Lloyd Lake and Michael Michaels, two San Diego based crooks.

    If the NCAA were to even approach any of these issues with the SEC schools, OK State, Miami, etc…. as they did with USC, they would shut down FBS football.

    With that said, any penalty less than what was issued to USC should force the NCAA to end all continuation of sanctions and penalties against USC, now, today…..

  15. harbourimages says: Sep 12, 2013 8:38 PM

    I don’t know “Deb” and don’t really have a dog in this fight (as a Michigan alum), but from what I’ve read by Deb tonight as well as in the past she certainly sounds like one of the most articulate, intelligent, knowledgeable posters here. Not sure why so many of you guys dump on her unless you’re just SEC/Bama haters. She appears to be pretty freakin’ bright and credible to me….

    GO BLUE (sure glad we opened with CENTRAL MICHIGAN this year instead of Alabama again! Geesh!)….

  16. Deb says: Sep 13, 2013 12:00 AM

    Thank you, mrlitl and harbourimages, and thanks again microbrewuga. Your graciousness is appreciated. I’ve been around here a long time and am well accustomed to the kids. 😉

  17. tidealum2011 says: Sep 13, 2013 8:40 AM


    That attorney you describe as having no experience worked with the NCAA for ten years and is considered the foremost expert on NCAA compliance. He has represented or consulted for the schools in almost every NCAA investigation since leaving the NCAA infractions committee, including Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, and USC. If this turns into an NCAA investigation, he’ll be UA’s first telephone call.

  18. seamusmartin says: Sep 13, 2013 11:46 AM

    I have followed college football for more years then I can remember and have forgotten more about college football than most of the folks on this site will ever know. That being said, I am of the opinion that the SEC is and has been a “good ol’ boy” institution for years. They host a large number of the bowl games and I think strange that matchups in those games are usually feature a favored SEC vs an underdog from another conference. Mere coincidence? There is also a rumbling out there that the “good ol’ boys” have been noticed and are being watched by the rest of the Division 1 conferences and independents because of their recent football prowess. Could it be that the fox is guarding the hen house in the SEC, with rampent violations, encompassing scholastic, recruiting and criminal, going unreported? I may be proved wrong. Still, something in the SEC doesn’t seem kosher. Lets see what developes.

  19. Deb says: Sep 13, 2013 1:26 PM

    @tidealum2011 …

    If you look back, my original post said “I don’t know all the details on this,” but the story related to me by a group of experienced trial attorneys in Tuscaloosa who have represented the University and various members of the football team was that the attorney handling the incident was an academic who stipulated to the NCAA’s evidence. As initially noted, I may not have presented that information in perfect detail. Nor do I know whether we are referring to the same situation. I do know the attorneys speaking to me were on top of their information.

    Thanks for participating. It’s always nice to meet a fellow Tide fan who supports his own rather than the howling mob. :)

  20. Deb says: Sep 13, 2013 3:51 PM

    @tidealum2011 …

    If you’re more than a hit-and-run poster, here are the details …

    The lawyer to whom you refer was a law professor his entire career with no litigation experience. He was UA’s faculty adviser wrongly decided to stipulate to the use of impermissible evidence, including a secret witness–even though NCAA guidelines preclude the use of secret witnesses–in the wrongful belief that his buddies on the infractions committee where he’d once served would just give Alabama a pass. Any attorney with litigation experience would have known better than to stipulate to the use of impermissible evidence against their client. Duh.

    After leaving Alabama, he went to work for the firm that later handled the cases for the schools you mentioned, but he was not the lead litigator on those cases–obviously since the firm denied, denied, denied in the cases of Newton and Manziel. Or maybe he learned his lesson from his screwup at Alabama. As a 2011 grad, you’d have been about 10-12 when these events concerned. Maybe if you’d been a little older, you’d have read some of Cecil Hurt’s blistering commentary on the mishandling of this case in the Tuscaloosa News. Whatever happens in this situation and whatever firm is contracted, I guarantee this individual will not be the first person called.

    Again, thank you for participating. I posted the original comment to lift the spirits of worried Alabama fans and let them know things went very, very wrong last time. How kind of you to side with the haters–especially since you didn’t have ANY of the facts straight–in trying to say “Oh, no, we had the best possible counsel and still got sanctioned.” :roll:

  21. Deb says: Sep 13, 2013 3:53 PM


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