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USC AD Haden responds to NCAA actions on Penn State

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USC athletic director Pat Haden finally broke out of his well-crafted veneer of sensibility and reason on Tuesday to lambaste the NCAA for its maddeningly inconsistent application of its bylaws. Haden rightfully pointed out that USC continues to suffer from an array of penalties that did not fit the crime and that the NCAA’s relaxation of Penn State’s sanctions justifies his desire for immediate relief for the Trojans.

Just kidding!

Haden didn’t say any of those things. Upon hearing the news that the NCAA would gradually ease Penn State’s pain, the USC athletic director released a statement that was about as generic as humanly possible:

“Like the rest of country, we have just learned of the NCAA’s actions regarding the restoration of some of Penn State’s scholarships.

“As you know, the NCAA is currently engaged in the process of evaluating and potentially reforming its governance structure.  We look forward to having a positive impact on that process.

“We also are hopeful that the NCAA’s recently-enacted enforcement and penalty reforms will result in a consistent and fair enforcement and penalty process for all its institutions.  USC will continue to work cooperatively with the NCAA towards that goal.

“We are near the end of the NCAA sanctions imposed on us in 2010 and we look forward to their expiration.”

This statement has about as much passion and emotion as an English lord’s face after getting lightly slapped by his enemy’s silk glove. Surely Haden could take a moment to inject a little bit of color into such a reply, no? No one would blame him for pointing out the wildly disparate judicial actions of the NCAA. Would it kill him that much to act a little more like Kirk and a little less like Spock?

Even embattled USC coach Lane Kiffin showed some personality about the NCAA’s decision today, dropping a bit of sarcasm via Twitter:

There’s an old saying: You deserve what you accept. This has applied to USC a lot lately.

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22 Responses to “USC AD Haden responds to NCAA actions on Penn State”
  1. lenbias34pt says: Sep 24, 2013 6:08 PM

    Who hired Lane Kiffin?

    I know he is an ease target, but other than recruiting well and repeating the success as OC that Chow had for 2 years (with more talent).
    Lane Kiffin very well maybe a fine OC, but if you look at USC’s offense this year you have to even wonder that.

    Funny thing about this story is Haden’s right to say little, the talent at USC is still outstanding. It’s the coaching……..Haden has no choice but to fire Lane in the coming months.
    That is darn close to just a fact.

  2. Deb says: Sep 24, 2013 6:24 PM

    When did USC quietly accept the sanctions? The school appealed–as did Penn State. And the appeals were denied. What else should they do? Pat Haden has too much class to publicly rant and rave that Penn State is getting off easy. Besides, it wouldn’t help. All he can do is point out that they are bearing their burden–which I think was more of a jab than Kiffin’s goofy congrats to the football team.

    Pat Haden isn’t the problem here. The problem is the schizy personality of the NCAA.

  3. tigersfandan says: Sep 24, 2013 7:54 PM

    Please get rid of the stinkin’ comment rating system. It’s so easy to game.

  4. Deb says: Sep 24, 2013 8:43 PM

    :D

  5. tobeexact says: Sep 24, 2013 9:00 PM

    First I will say usc has a legitimate gripe when it comes to the ncaa and how it dishes out punishment ,but definitely not with the penn state situation.
    First of all and anyone who knows anything about rules violations knows that penn state did not violate any ncaa rules which even the A hole emmeret has admitted himself,so this tiny little bone they are trying to feed penn state is a bunch of bull.
    Now usc can gripe that there there conference member oregon got off with nothing after violating the rules and it took them two years to do that. Then there are the sec teams like south carolina who had major ones and got nothing and miss st and then north carolina in the acc,so ya if they want to complain about that then I will back it a 100 percent. This is nothing more then emmeret trying to do some posturing before they go to court in pa. for the paterno lawsuit which they will lose and it will go to trial.
    And then the statements by big ten commisioner delaney saying he has been working behind the scenes for penn state,he is also full of you know what. I guess he cant remember that he made the statement when obrien wanted the bot to ask the ncaa to reduce some of the sanctions.
    His response was I think it is to early yet for that and I think it is gona take a while, and if he thought the sanctions were illegal or to harsh then why did he chime in after the ncaa hanged out the sanctions and give them even more from the Big, like no share in bowl revenue,i didnt see him do that to ohio st,or taken joe pa name off the trophy or that they couldnt play in the Big championship game.
    All of a sudden he now wants the lime light again , only this time he did a 180 and wants credit for something he had nothing to do with.
    One of my favorite sayings definitely apply to both emmeret and delaney( dont piss down my back and tell me its raining)
    Either get rid of them all or nothing ,dont throw a piece of a crumb even a pigeon couldnt find , when all along you know you were wrong to begin with.
    Im personally looking foreward to the judge telling emmeret and his cloneys ,see you at the trial and make sure you bring all that paperwork you dont want anyone seeing,you.know the ones that will ha ve a ton more schools filing lawsuits and him out of his cushy job and behind bars with the creep sandusky ,by then sandusky will have moved up to men like emmeret.

  6. Deb says: Sep 24, 2013 9:18 PM

    I don’t believe in punishing schools–students and student athletes–for the behavior of individuals who are no longer associated with the schools. That’s lopsided justice.

    Bush should have been forced to sit out a year of his NFL eligibility–as Terrell Pryor was forced to take an NFL suspension. Agents involved in these situations should be banned from any future association with sports rather than being allowed to wreak havoc with the Saints organization as Bush’s benefactor did. Boosters caught handing out money to student athletes should be banned from buying tickets or attending sports functions for life.

    But if we’re talking about “institutional corruption,” no school better exemplifies that than Penn State … not only through its school executives and coaches but through the behavior of its fans since the Sandusky story broke. The only thing that might have convinced these people that the football team is not more important than the lives of these children would have been the Death Penalty. It was never more deserved. If that earns me the scorn of anonymous thumbers … well, so be it. I’ll just have to live with the disapproval :roll:

  7. floridacock says: Sep 24, 2013 9:54 PM

    I agree with Deb to a point. It should not matter one bit what a fan thinks, says or does in regard to the school. What does matter is that Penn State no longer has ANY executive, coach or employee associated with that despicable act. Why penalize the current players and staff for the misdeeds of those now gone? NCAA got this part right.

  8. Anoesis says: Sep 25, 2013 12:58 AM

    As a USC fan I no longer comment on the NCAA’s policy of throwing accusations at a wall (like so much shit) and seeing what might stick.

    USC didn’t get hammered with a penalty as close to a death sentence as you can get for egregious violations, they got pasted for daring to stick up for themselves and refusing to cave. Claiming a “lack of institutional control” regarding a player’s parents 150 miles away was stretching the truth about as far as the NCAA could.

    In the same vein as UCLA’s Shabazz Muhammad, the NCAA was intent on bringing sanctions come hell or high water, facts and reason be damned. The megalomaniacal witch-hunt that infects the enforcement community at the NCAA colors every investigation they undertake.

    Pat Haden has shown that he is the right person for that job, rising above the petty NCAA and comporting himself with class and dignity. I’m sure he’s well aware of the situation regarding his football team and will resolve that situation in the same intelligent, deliberate manner he has exhibited since he was hired.

  9. pdcooper08 says: Sep 25, 2013 2:00 AM

    Nice points being made and not all the trash talking. Deb, you make to much sence.

  10. floridacock says: Sep 25, 2013 7:21 AM

    Southern Cal did not distance itself from the Bush issue when it hired a head coach who coached at Southern Cal during the time of the scandal. Don’t know if he was involved in any way, but he was a recruiter and coach in 2005. That was such a bad hire in so many ways.

  11. tobeexact says: Sep 25, 2013 9:04 AM

    Once again you have people talking out the other end of thoer bodies . First and foremost everyone knows and agrees jerry sandusky was a monster and a creep of the worst kind. But I will repeat it again ,no matter how horrendous his crimes were and I also believe curely and schultz were involved in this ,it doesnt make it an ncaa violation its a criminal matter a crime. So that makes what the ncaa did to penn state a crime or illegal,stop listening to all the news and being a band wagon person and a follower , and form a real opinion on real facts.
    What the idiots that want to keep bashing penn state as a whole and the football team for another persons crimes are suggesting is your guilty by association.
    So it would be no different then if the town,county or city or state you live in had someone commit the same crimes as sandusky then everyone who lived where he did would be guilty and therefor have to pay as well.
    And since it wouldnt be a school then everyone who lived where that person did would get fined a ton of money because they didnt stop him or her and were associated with it only because they lived there
    Thats how stupid you sound,i even read a comment on fox news that , well they didnt reduce ohio st sanctions.
    Well there is another idiot ,kind of hard to reduce a one year ,3 scholorship loss and a one year bowl ban.
    Also to the person commenting on the students at penn state rioting, are you kidding me , they in the one incident that they did was because they tried a peaceful protest.
    You want to bash a school for one time that had nothing to do with after a football game, well I can give you hundreds of incidents where students riot and destroy personal property because of a win or loss at a football game ,so I guess they should get the death penalty.
    You obviosly have never been to psu campus or game.

  12. tobeexact says: Sep 25, 2013 9:43 AM

    And its amazing that no one is hammering the sec schools who historically have or have as a majority the worst student athlete graduation rate,historically have the most players getting in trouble on and off the field who just had two more schools get absolutely no punishment from the ncaa for major rules violations because and get this, we did an internal investigation and found the problem and have installed measures to insure it wont happen again.
    South carolina , that one comes very close to the miami violations as far as money and parties and gifts from alumni.and players, then miss st ,both got off with probation.
    But I do remember one incident where penn state made the news for a minor infraction which when you look at it ,it made the ncaa again look like idiots,a person bought a suit for a player who didnt own one nor could he afford one to attend his mothers funeral.
    But that was wrong , are you kidding me, talk about moral judgement.
    Ohio st got punished for players selling personal items for tatoos,yet the cam newton problem was aloud and he won the hiesman trophy, then there is oregon , another major violation ,no sanctions and there coach now the nfl eagles coach got nothing compared to tressel from ohio st who was banned from coachng for five years in the college ranks,chip kelly gets one which this year counts as the one ,so if he gets run out of philly he can immediately return to college football making 3 mil plus .
    So dont lecture on violations , real ones when psu didnt commit any,just because a creep like sandusky did what he did and the media jumped on it and brain washed all the idiots that cant think for them selves or rationally,doesnt make it an ncaa violation.
    And even the man who dished them out said numerous times, they didnt violate any rules but I feel compelled to fine them harsh penalties,all the while violating its own rules.
    So yes continue to have an uniformed opinion and one you were brain washed into having the wrong one.

  13. normtide says: Sep 25, 2013 10:23 AM

    Deb is exactly right. If the NCAA is going to be the NFL minor league, the NFL should hold up the players punishments. That’s the only way to stop hurting programs over a player’s issues.

  14. Deb says: Sep 25, 2013 2:08 PM

    @tobeexact …

    Get your facts straight.

    Ohio State was punished because Tressel found out about the tattoo situation, failed to report it, then lied about failing to report it. That is where the “institutional control” issue came into it.

    Penn State was punished because coaches and administrators knew a child sex abuser was using their facilities to lure, groom, and abuse his victims, failed to report it, then lied about failing to report it. That is lack of “institutional control.”

    USC was punished because an assistant coach admitted involvement in the scheme to pay Reggie Bush. Again, “institutional control.”

    Cam Newton should have been forced to sit out because it’s a violation when a family member or someone representing the family/player soliticits money on the player’s behalf–and Newton’s father admitted soliciting Mississippi State on his behalf. But that had nothing to do with Auburn. So far, there is no proof that Auburn did anything.

    I didn’t follow the Miami and Oregon cases closely enough to comment. But those I did follow are not created equal. That’s why the sanctions weren’t equal.

  15. Deb says: Sep 25, 2013 2:11 PM

    @floridacock …

    You make a valid point that those connected with Penn State today were not connected with the abuse scandal. It just bothers me that so many Penn State fans still seem unable to accept the gravity of that situation. I love football and love my teams. But even I understand that some things are more important than football.

  16. dutchman1350 says: Sep 25, 2013 5:40 PM

    @Deb you don’t know what was reported by PSU officials. We do know Paterno reported the incident to schools officials. We don’t know what was done after that. That information will be revealed in the upcoming trials.

  17. eloso1 says: Sep 25, 2013 6:14 PM

    @Deb- I think u make some good arguments but think ur Penn State argument could use some open-mindedness. I think it’s wrong to assume penn state fans seem unable to accept the gravity of the situation. I think they do. This situation disgusted me and as the media piled on with their holier than thou grand standing vs these crazy Penn Staters defending themselves it occurred to me like any situation that has vastly diff sides the truth lies somewhere in the middle. It’s seems like no one understands what the reach of the NCAA should be and it appears problematic for many fans arguing their specific cases. Should the NCAA be enforcing athletic integrity and competitiveness while following a consistent set of rules and guidelines or act as an arm of the law or both? I’m of the position the NCAA overstepped its bounds or its mission and is backtracking bc they have a case brought against them by the Paterno family that will gain standing and they will have to open up themselves to public scrutiny or settle. It’s likely once this case gains standing that the NCAA will not want to open themselves up bc it will show how flawed and possibly corrupt it’s enforcement arm and executive board have behaved and could lead to discovery of some real dirty laundry. It appears to me they acted outside their scope and maybe even caved to public pressure to exert power or a strong hand. They have never been consistent with anything they have done and it seems that has become their undoing. You may disagree but that’s what I see.

    While I shouldn’t wade into this pool I will ever so slightly. I’ve been in so many arguments its penn staters that I made it my mission to understand my position inside and out. .If you want to talk about what these men did wrong in aiding Sandusky, let them have their day in court and go from there. If they acted criminally, they will get what they deserve. Looking at his objectively–while horrific in nature the crimes of Sandusky, its important to remember that he is the criminal and the one that preyed on young kids and used a tight knit community that trusted him do so. I tend to listen to experts and not loud mouth sensationalizing reporters looking for page views and the two that stick out are the Top FBI profiler Jim Clemente and the lead prosecuting attorney Frank Fina who suggest this wasn’t an active coverup. It doesn’t mean this tragedy didn’t happen it just means they were unprepared or simply inept at doing their job. The Louis Freeh report that basically buried penn state and provided the NCAA with the ammunition to come down on them, has over time become a document that continues to unravel and lose its credibility. He is a mercenary and is paid to do his job. The head of the Penn States Board of Trustees is the governor of PA. He had this in his lap and failed for a long time as attorney general to do anything about it. Don’t think he had a vested interest in the blame being put somewhere else? Additionally the first known event in 1998 was handled by the state of Pennsylvania and Department of Public Welfare along with State College police. They had him on a recording admitting wrongdoing and decided not to do anything. Do to the nature of the crime of a child and an active criminal case in general it’s hard to see how the general public or even Penn State officials(re: Joe Paterno) would have ever known about it. Its on the record by the chief of police that the information was never shared with the head of Penn State Police or the university.. I don’t try to diminish the crimes committed but the speculation that the events of 1998 and 2001 are tied together and that this went on forever is simply a story that seemingly was put together to commingle the two to protect others in higher positions of power while placing blame where it was easiest.. That’s what I know.

    Anyways I probably spoke to much, I have no vested interest in really opening my mouth other then sharing what I’ve learned over time about this tragedy by allowing myself to be a little more open minded about the situation. There is no doubt it’s messed up in a horrific way but lumping the situations together seems wrong to me and seems wrong that the university as a whole and football team have been painted with the same brush.

  18. Deb says: Sep 25, 2013 8:22 PM

    @eloso1 …

    You make some good points. For one, it’s unfair of me to talk about Penn State fans as a collective. While some seem more concerned about football than anything, many others have been sick over Sandusky’s crimes and his connection to their school. The nature of the crimes stirs many more emotions than the kinds of cases that usually attract NCAA scrutiny. But nothing is lost by waiting to see how the rest of the criminal proceedings play out.

  19. jdillydawg says: Sep 26, 2013 5:24 AM

    “But even I understand that some things are more important than football.”

    Deb, I was with you on every point and then you hit me with that. Say it ain’t so…
    :)

  20. waynefontes says: Sep 26, 2013 10:47 AM

    Where’s papabush88?

    He was the guy who said that Lane Kiffin was a great choice to coach USC.

    I don’t like USC, but at least people like uscatjerseyshore are those who will stick with their program through thick and thin.

    Good ol’ papabush ran away with his tail tucked between his legs.. kind of like Pete Carroll…

    You can’t blame USC’s ineptness just on the NCAA penalties. Lane Kiffin has sucked at every job he has ever had. How he got this far, who knows (other than good old nepotism)

    You know you suck when senile Al Davis was 100% spot on with his assessment.

    It will be interesting to see who USC picks for their new coach next year.

  21. Deb says: Sep 26, 2013 1:40 PM

    Very few, jdillydawg. Very few :)

  22. eightysixisback says: Sep 28, 2013 10:01 PM

    @eloso1:

    Thank you for that, you said a whole lot of things that i think need to be said more often. I stopped posting on the PSU stories because i was being attacked and told i was a child molester and all kinds of nasty things when i responded in the past. I graduated from Penn State, i disagree completely with how the NCAA handled the whole situation and was angry about it. I was a victim of sexual abuse as a child and have an 8 year old son who i would never ever want to become a victim himself. i am a fan and supporter of Penn State football and all Penn State sports teams as well as the university in general but i promise you I realize the severity of the situation. It isn’t a lack of understanding or compassion for the victims of the crimes of jerry sandusky that causes me to be angry about the sanctions against Penn State, it is the fact that it was a criminal matter that involved an ex coach and two or possibly three other people at the most. It was not the whole university, it wasn’t the football team or the fans or penn state students or graduates, it was jerry sandusky and a few people who should have reported it. There are pedophiles in every town in this country. That is a horrible thing but it is true. The whole town isn’t guilty for the actions of one person and the whole university wasn’t guilty for sandusky’s. As i mentioned i was a vicitm myself and i found it disgusting that i was being labeled a pedophile for arguing that the NCAA was wrong. The media had everyone foaming at the mouth with hate for penn state and a lot of what is now being reported as fact is not even accurate. I read an AP article the other day that said that “victim number 2, the victim that Mike Mcqueary saw being attacked in the shower . . .” Do some research, that is not what happened at all. Not at all. He did NOT witness the kid being ATTACKED. He saw sandusky and the kid in the shower (which is completely inappropriate and certainly should have been reported and dealt with harshly and i think those who were made aware of this and failed to act should be punished) involved in “horseplay.” That sick f**k was definitely victimizing this kid at the time there is no doubt but mcqueary didn’t witness the kid being raped in the shower and walk away from it. That is what the media led everyone to believe though. It is now reported as fact that the kid was being attacked or raped or penetrated. That just isn’t true. I am not arguing that any of what happened is okay and i believe a prison sentence was far too kind for sandusky. He deserves a whole hell of a lot worse. I also believe that anyone who failed to act or in any way covered up what sandusky did should be punished severely. I am very aware of the seriousness of the situation but the entire university did not deserve to have its reputation tarnished and the NCAA had no business handing out punishment to the school for the actions of a few people who had their own best interest not the best interest of the university in mind when they failed to act.

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