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Pat Haden asks NCAA for ‘consideration’ of USC sanctions

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Penn State received some “time off” for good behavior from the NCAA earlier this week.

USC is hoping for something similar — we think — from The Association.

In a statement posted to USC’s official football website, athletic director Pat Haden acknowledged that he had discussions with officials from the NCAA earlier this week.  While the meeting had been scheduled weeks earlier, Haden said, part of his time with the NCAA was spent discussing the easing of scholarship restrictions on Penn State and what if anything could be done — immediately — to the Trojans’ own scholarship restrictions.

As a result of the Reggie Bush impermissible benefits case, the Trojans were slapped with harsh sanctions in 2010, including a two-year bowl ban (already served) and the reduction of 10 scholarships per year.

While the sanctions come to an end this year, Haden proposed “‘outside the box’ solutions to scholarship issues” the AD claims is not in the best interests of our student-athlete’s welfare.  From Haden’s statement:

“After learning of the NCAA’s actions on Tuesday (Sept. 24) regarding Penn State and the lessening of the sanctions that were imposed on that institution, when viewed in the context of the events that have shaken intercollegiate athletics over the past year, we felt compelled to discuss USC’s sanctions in a new light.  As I have stated on numerous occasions, I believe the penalties imposed on our football program in 2010 were unprecedented and inconsistent with NCAA precedent in prior cases.  I also believe the sanctions have resulted in unintended consequences both for our football program and our student-athletes.  Although the sanctions reduced our total football scholarship limit to 75 (down from 85), attrition resulting from injuries and transfers has resulted in less than 60 recruited scholarship student-athletes suiting up for our games.  The current situation is certainly not what was envisioned, nor is it in the best interests of our student-athletes’ welfare.

“In reducing Penn State’s scholarship penalties, the NCAA specifically noted the ‘progress’ it had made regarding athletics integrity.  Since the Committee on Infractions (COI) issued its sanctions in 2010, USC has been held up as a model and praised for its integrity and commitment to compliance, a fact often mentioned by the NCAA itself.  Although USC had two unsuccessful bites at the apple (the original COI hearing and the appeal to the Infractions Appeals Committee), given the changing landscape impacting intercollegiate sports over the past year, the recent action regarding Penn State, the impact of the sanctions on our program and the efforts we have under taken at USC to compete with integrity, we again argued for some consideration regarding the 2010 sanctions during the last year of our penalty.”

Haden went on to state that the NCAA was open to the school’s initial proposal as “the NCAA asked us to provide additional information and indicated it would study our suggestions.  Just what “out of the box” remedy Haden is seeking in the here and now is unclear.

The AD, though, wants an answer, one way or the other, from the NCAA as soon as possible,

“Because time is of the essence regarding these issues, we have asked for the NCAA’s response as soon as practical,” Haden wrote.

The NCAA opened up a big can of worms by “correcting” a portion of Penn State’s historic sanctions.  USC won’t be the first program to go to the NCAA to seek relief from what they consider unfair sanctions; how the NCAA handles USC — and Boise State and Miami (if the NCAA ever gets down to issuing a ruling) and on and on — will be fascinating on myriad levels, not the least of which is simply watching The Association making sh… stuff up as they go along.

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11 Responses to “Pat Haden asks NCAA for ‘consideration’ of USC sanctions”
  1. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Sep 26, 2013 5:00 PM

    It will be fun to see the NCAA rule on Penn State and USC twice before they get around to settling up with Miami.

    Not like they have anything better to do these days. They can wrap up a potentially major scandal with a Heisman winner in 6 hours when they feel like it.

  2. soflosportsfan says: Sep 26, 2013 5:20 PM

    If Penn St got reduced penalties for cooperation than Miami’s should not receive additional penalties for their cooperation and self-imposed penalties.

  3. rjruthve says: Sep 26, 2013 6:15 PM

    Pat Haden? Really? Is that the best spokesman USC can come up with? What is the world coming to?

  4. pacific123ocean says: Sep 26, 2013 6:48 PM

    That picture has to be altered…I can’t believe Pat Haden wears red glasses.

  5. dkhhuey says: Sep 26, 2013 11:21 PM

    Yep – if they’re going to forgive PSU for the hideous shit that went on at that university and the subsequent coverup for 10 plus years, then Gene Smith needs to ask for the same reduction for OSU.

  6. scbaby2013 says: Sep 27, 2013 12:13 AM

    Hope Miami gets sanctioned hard for lack of institutional control, like Miami AD Paul Dee said. Plus according to john Taylor- he was the committee’s chairman, he was also the athletic director at a university — Miami — during the time period in which a booster is accused of giving millions of dollars in impermissible benefits and for which the football and basketball programs are currently under the NCAA infractions microscope.

  7. soundsofsuccess7 says: Sep 27, 2013 12:48 AM

    Pretty much everyone that has every gotten in trouble with the NCAA has gotten away with it, except USC, who got shredded.

    Miami- terrible investigation likely to lead to no sanctions
    Penn State- scholarships given back
    A&M- Manziel suspended half game
    Auburn- nothing happened after Cam scandal


  8. canesnut says: Sep 27, 2013 3:45 AM

    Kinda funny how people bag on Miami but yet none of the schools in recent memory have been so apt to self impose bowl bans and other penalties. The NCAA has dragged out the case way longer than is necessary and although I know the bulk of the country to include some in the NCAA hate The U, it is pretty ridiculous to drag out the case even further.

    If it were my decision at Miami, I would say screw the NCAA and would not impose any further bowl bans, as they have foregone millions in funding, recruits and sponsors. Not to mention the opportunities to place in the ACC Championship games and possible BCS bowls.

    At the end of the day, USC can suck it and take their lumps like everyone else. The difference is that at least my Canes are doing it like Men while the Trojan bums are crying and trying to use any mouthpiece to speak on their behalf. You cheated, you got caught, so suck it up and take your punishment. BTW, good luck with Kiffin, that in itself is like a self imposed punishment. That guy couldn’t coach his way through a H.S. football game let alone in College.

  9. omniusprime says: Sep 27, 2013 8:43 AM

    The NCAA came down on USC like a ton of bricks yet gave Pedophile State a mere slap on the wrist for a far more egregious crime. It was sickening to see the NCAA lessen an already too little penalty against Pedophile State, now the NCAA has to be lenient to USC as well.

    Pedophile State should have received the death penalty for their ultimately corrupt football program that protected a pedophile pervert instead of the children who were his many victims.

  10. noaxetogrind says: Sep 27, 2013 11:47 AM

    Not here to defend or support Penn State, USC or Miami, but am simply amazed at how ignorant many posters are. For those of you who think Penn State is getting off lightly, please support your point. They still have to pay an over 60 MILLION DOLLAR fine and still have their bowl ban. For the USC fans who feel you were punished disproportionately, you have an argument but it is hardly a slam dunk, it is certainly reasonable to say that USC got what it had coming to them. Please keep in mind that USC went right back out and hired at least 2 coaches who were on the staff during the violations, with Ed Orgeron’s reputation well established (in fairness Ed had been abusing rules for a long time at other places like Ole Miss and Miami). The Penn State affair is tragic on so many levels but I don’t think anybody who is objective really thinks it was tied to trying to gain a competitive advantage. Again, if you look at the big 3 programs who are in trouble, you would have to say that Miami’s case appears to be the clearest example of a lack of institutional control. That being said, I believe Miami has done all that you could expect them to do, self imposed bowl bans and self imposed scholarship reductions. Miami has more or less admitted their culpability. Between their self imposed actions and the NCAA’s bungled investigation I think it is time for Miami to be done with any further penalties. For the record, I don’t think the NCAA should ever impose scholarship sanctions, all that does is hurt innocent student athletes. Its not like they take those scholarships and give them to somebody else. They simply reduce the number of people who have a chance to go to college. You want to hurt programs, lay a Penn State type of fine on them. I don’t care how wealthy your boosters are, be it Alabama, USC or Miami, 60 MILLION talks and will get the coach and staff fired.

  11. delashmit says: Sep 27, 2013 1:28 PM

    Now I know why Lame Kiffin was so pleased with the reduction in the Penn State penalties. He hopes to has their sanctions and reduction in scholarships reduced also. Much different cases since the USC people involved are still in coaching.

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