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Baylor cracks coaches’ poll Top Five as change reigns

Art Briles, Paul Rhoads AP

Just a few hours ahead of the first release in the final year of the BCS, and as expected based upon the carnage Saturday, change is at the forefront of the latest USA Today coaches’ poll.

In the poll that constitutes one-third of the BCS rankings, there are five new faces inside the Top Ten alone.  In are Baylor (No. 5, from No. 12), Miami (No. 6, from No. 11), Missouri (No. 7, from No. 14), Stanford (No. 8, from No. 13) and Texas Tech (No. 9, from 15).

Exiting the Top 10 are last week’s Nos. 6-10: Louisville (No. 16), Texas A&M (No. 15), LSU (T-No. 13), South Carolina (No. 20) and UCLA (No. 11).

Clemson, which lost to then-No. 5 Florida State, fell from No. 3 to No. 10.

As has been the case every week this season, Alabama is a solid No. 1.  The Tide is followed by Oregon at No. 2 and Florida State, which leapfrogged Ohio State, is at No. 3 coming of its thumping of the Tigers.  The Buckeyes dropped back one to No. 4.

Alabama actually lost one first-place vote, coming in this week with 57.  Oregon, meanwhile, picked up one vote and now has four, while Florida State presumably picked up Clemson’s first-place vote from a week ago.

As is ofttimes the case when it comes to the coaches’ poll, there is some, to be kind, head-scratching and downright inexplicable placement of teams.  Two-loss A&M, which lost to one-loss Auburn just yesterday, is two spots higher than the Tigers.  One-loss Louisville, which lost to one-loss UCF Thursday, is nine spots higher than the Golden Knights.

Making the slottings even more maddening?  Those were conference road wins for Auburn and UCF.

Despite all of the tumult, a pair of unbeaten teams barely budged in this week’s rankings: the MWC’s Fresno State moved up one to No. 18, while the MAC’s Northern Illinois also moved up one to No. 23.

Dropping out this week are Florida (No. 22), Georgia (No. 16) and Washington (No. 25).  They were replaced by Auburn (No. 17), Wisconsin (No. 24) and UCF (No. 25).

1. Alabama (7-0) (57)
2. Oregon (7-0) (4)
3. Florida State (6-0) (1)
4. Ohio State (7-0)
5. Baylor (6-0)
6. Miami (Fla.) (6-0)
7. Missouri (7-0)
8. Stanford (6-1)
9. Texas Tech (7-0)
10. Clemson (6-1)
11. UCLA (5-1)
12. Oklahoma (6-1)
13. (tie) Oklahoma State (5-1)
13. (tie) LSU (6-2)
15. Texas A&M (5-2)
16. Louisville (6-1)
17. Auburn (6-1)
18. Fresno State (6-0)
19. Virginia Tech (6-1)
20. South Carolina (5-2)
21. Nebraska (5-1)
22. Northern Illinois (7-0)
23. Michigan (6-1)
24. Wisconsin (5-2)
25. Central Florida (5-1)

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23 Responses to “Baylor cracks coaches’ poll Top Five as change reigns”
  1. normtide says: Oct 20, 2013 1:13 PM

    Auburn at 16 is a little low to me. Least a top 12 team. I like Baylor in the top 5. (For the record, I’ve crushed Baylor for it’s past, they deserved it. They no longer mail it in, just to cash an AQ check. Respect to Baylor, that isn’t easy for me to say). Who said playoffs would fix everything? My question is, right now, what four are in and who is left out? That same drama will continue. Right now, I have Bama, Oregon, FSU, and Baylor in. OSU would be out. I redirect OSU, but the B1G shouldn’t be aq atm. Baylor would have a tougher road yo being undefeated.

  2. normtide says: Oct 20, 2013 1:15 PM

    *Respect OSU.

  3. imaduffer says: Oct 20, 2013 1:21 PM

    Condi Rice would say,”just because your ranked team beat their ranked team on the road doesn’t mean you are better than them.”

  4. geodude11 says: Oct 20, 2013 1:39 PM

    “As is ofttimes the case when it comes to the coaches’ poll, there is some, to be kind, head-scratching and downright inexplicable placement of teams.” They are the coaches that scout and develop young talent, plan and train the teams involved at this level. I expect quite a lot of you to be “scratching your heads”! You are probably among those that are “head-scratching” whenever the wind changes direction too.

  5. hoptowntiger94 says: Oct 20, 2013 1:45 PM

    How is Michigan ranked in the top 25?! I’d rather see Arizona St or Notre Dame in their slot. For the most part, they struggled yesterday.
    Virginia Tech is too high! 25 0r maybe 24 fits their resume better. They won’t be in the top 25 at the end of the season.
    Miami is too high, also. They shouldn’t be rewarded for that ‘win’ Thursday night.
    What I love? Baylor at 5. Florida St. at 3 jumping Ohio St. Texas Tech at 10. And welcome Central Florida! Although, I’d rather switched Louisville out for Knights.

  6. dcroz says: Oct 20, 2013 1:59 PM


    Your statement would make sense, if the coaches were the ones who actually did the voting. It’s well known that they hand these ballots off to the AD, the SID, the lead waterboy, etc. And even if a coach does fill out his own ballot, how the hell does he have any time to watch any substantive film of the teams worthy of consideration and then judge who should be rated where? He’s got his own team to prepare, a game to coach, a coach’s show to tape after the game, recruits to contact, start preparing for next week’s game, etc., etc. They really should be honest about who’s voting and call it the Programs’ Poll or the Colleges’ Poll.

  7. inconsonance says: Oct 20, 2013 2:37 PM

    Fresno State and Northern Illinois should be ranked higher. I’m not saying they’re top 10 material, mind you, but being undefeated, no matter what conference you’re in, should count for something. Seeing a 7-0 NIU team behind 5-2 South Carolina just doesn’t make sense without conference bias and/or some “strength of schedule” nonsense. You shouldn’t get any slack for a “quality loss.” It’s still a loss.

  8. skwackquackwoof says: Oct 20, 2013 2:53 PM

    I disagree with Baylor and Auburn. Auburn should be higher, Baylor should be lower. I don’t think Baylor’s schedule is tougher than Ohio State’s. Every conference with the word “big” is equally awful this year. If my 2010 self could see me (a Quack) defend the likes of Auburn and Ohio State, I would invent a time machine for the whole purpose of kicking my future self in the stones. Baylor has no class. The starters were in until the 4th quarter yesterday, and every single week before then. If you still have starters in when you are winning by 35-55 points in the 2nd half you need to go back to Texas High School level coaching. The ONLY possible exception to that rule is if you happen to have 11 freshman starting on either side of the ball.

  9. John Taylor says: Oct 20, 2013 3:00 PM

    If my 2010 self could see me (a Quack) defend the likes of Auburn and Ohio State, I would invent a time machine for the whole purpose of kicking my future self in the stones.

    Where’s that ROTFLMAO emoticon when you need it…

  10. pike573 says: Oct 20, 2013 3:15 PM

    Yes E Wash was a bad loss but man Oregon St is getting jobbed.

  11. eyesofjustice says: Oct 20, 2013 3:32 PM

    @swackquack… Don’t hate, you speak out of ignorance. Check the facts. Until last week against K-State, Baylor pulled their starts 1 drive into 3rd quarter every game.

  12. cometkazie says: Oct 20, 2013 3:35 PM

    Isn’t college football fun?

  13. melikefootball says: Oct 20, 2013 3:36 PM

    Hard to believe Baylor is not ahead of OSU, makes no sense.

  14. skwackquackwoof says: Oct 20, 2013 4:14 PM

    I live in central TX. When the longhorns suck, all they show is Baylor. The reason I am bitter at Baylor is simple. If Oregon pulled these antics, our average margin of victory would be staggering and the BCS computer would just spew green and yellow smoke year after year, same thing with Heismans. I’m going to focus on one game in particular to keep this post short. We played our starters for 1 series in the second half in the Tennessee game. We were up 38-7 at half, and Oregon considers a 35 point lead in the second half to be game-in-hand. No more starters. At that point, 1:38 into the second half Marcus had 454 passing and 50+ rushing with six total tds. As it is, Marcus is the front-runner for the Heisman with 28 tds no ints and 2100+ yards… but he has played 40-75 less snaps than Manzeil, Winston, Mannion, or Seastrunk. Our offense is number 2 behind Baylor because we play with class. I may be an arrogant homer and all but Baylor and Oregon don’t belong in the same conversation. If the Heisman is for stats alone

  15. pepsimolly2 says: Oct 20, 2013 4:22 PM

    Squackquackwolf you obviously haven’t watched any Baylor games this season. Their starters haven’t played in the second half in the 1st 4 games. Only the 2nd & 3rd stringers played in those 1st four games. How do you have OSU ahead of Baylor? OSU beat Buffalo by 20 after Buffalo hung the whole game with them. Baylor creamed Buffalo! Check your facts before posting nonsense!

  16. teedraper says: Oct 20, 2013 4:38 PM

    Baylor at #6 is a joke at best. They have played no one!

  17. eyesofjustice says: Oct 20, 2013 4:41 PM

    Skwackquack… Posting homer comments without true facts is classless.

  18. longborer69 says: Oct 20, 2013 5:21 PM

    “Squackquackwolf you obviously haven’t watched any Baylor games this season. Their starters haven’t played in the second half in the 1st 4 games. ”

    Uh, yeah.

    “Posting homer comments without true facts is classless.”

    Uh, yeah.

    Boxscore shows Petty threw for a TD at 7:28 of the 3rd against (ahem) WOFFORD for a 45-3 lead. Perhaps they were afraid of the Wofford comeback. Or perhaps the people who said he wasn’t playing in the second half in that game know that he’s just so good that he can throw for a TD while on the bench….

    Seastrunk ran for a TD in the 3rd against ULM. Obviously, they didn’t think the 49-7 halftime lead was secure. Or maybe he ran for a TD from the bench?


    Petty ran for a TD against Iowa State at 9 minutes of the 3rd, extending the lead from 37-0 to 44-0. OK. Iowa State is dangerous, no doubt. LOL.

    Yeah, Baylor is playing their starters with bigger leads than Oregon has been. Not sure what it proves, but it is true.

    I’d put OSU ahead of Baylor right now, easily. Best team Baylor has played is 3-4 WVU, followed by 2-4 KSU. OSU has at least played one sort of good team (Wisconsin), a respectable team (Northwestern), and an almost respectable team (Ioway). Baylor hasn’t done that.

    If the Bears go undefeated, they’d easily surpass OSU, but for now, all they’ve shown is that they can score a lot of points on pathetic defenses and beat up horrible teams.

  19. skwackquackwoof says: Oct 20, 2013 5:29 PM

    ^^^^ What he said.

  20. sportsguygerald says: Oct 20, 2013 7:20 PM

    Guess Baylor’s lack of class is a whole lot worse than the whiny Oregon DC bitching about Wash State trying to score late in the game because they were down by 38 and kept throwing the ball? Every coach should just tell his kids, we’re beat, let’s take a knee because it’s not fair to try and score on their backups. Oregon, pure class indeed.

    Following Saturday night’s game between Oregon and Washington State, Oregon defensive coordinator Nick Aliotti had some choice words for Washington State coach Mike Leach while speaking to reporters. Aliotti was upset with Leach for the way the game ended, and he let the world know it.

    “That’s total bullshit that he threw the ball at the end of the game like he did,’’ Aliotti said. “And you can print that and you can send it to him, and he can comment, too. I think it’s low class and it’s bullshit to throw the ball when the game is completely over against our kids that are basically our scout team.’’

    “Make sure he knows that. Because I don’t really care.’’

    Aliotti wouldn’t stop, either, airing his grievances against Leach as if it was Festivus.

    “I am kind of stunned he would keep his quarterback and crew in there,’’ Aliotti said. “And still he threw the ball with 20 seconds left. But he did. They want stats, they got stats. But we got the most important stat and that’s the ‘W’ and we are happy about that.’’

    It’s hard to blame Aliotti for being upset. After all, it is a bit classless to keep trying to score when you’re already up by 38 points in the fourth quarter like Washington State was.

    What? What’s that? Washington State was losing by 38 points in the fourth quarter?

    Well how dare Washington State not just lay down and die! They were playing the mighty Oregon Ducks! You don’t try to score points against the Oregon Ducks reserves, you just take your 50-point beating and tell the Ducks you were honored to have the privilege of being run over!

    Seriously, Nick Aliotti is upset with Mike Leach because his team kept playing for the entire 60 minutes when it was losing. He’s claiming Mike Leach just wanted the stats, when odds are he’s only upset because Oregon’s defensive stats don’t look nearly as good after the Cougars put up another 14 points in the final minutes of the game, finishing the day with 559 total yards.

    I mean, Aliotti coaches on a team that routinely beats its opponents by 30 to 50 points. The Ducks came into this contest as 40-point favorites. That’s right, Oregon has beaten teams so badly in recent years that Las Vegas actually spots the other team 40 points.

    And Aliotti is upset because Washington State wasn’t willing to lose by 40 points.

    Does anybody have a violin we can play for him?

  21. skwackquackwoof says: Oct 20, 2013 8:46 PM

    Hey I agree with you Gerald. I commend Wazzou for showing some spine. I am surprised that Alliotti said anything at all. In the entire time I have been an Oregon fan (since 1994) he has been the least vocal member of the staff. He stated very clearly and repeated his comments so there can be no mistake. Even if a smidgeon of his points are valid, his comments lacked class and were petty.

  22. v2the4 says: Oct 21, 2013 6:31 AM

    I think what he was upset about was the fact the Wazzu was throwing the ball while being behind by 38 to break the record for pass attempts in a game.

    Purdue QB Drew Brees(I think we’ve heard of him) set the record back in 2000 with 83 pass attempts….

    Wazzu QB Connor Holiday attempted 89 passes, completing 55 for 557 yards, 4 tds and 4ints….Wazzu ran 101 plays, and only rushed for 2 yards

  23. jdillydawg says: Oct 26, 2013 1:08 AM

    Baylor had been the butt of jokes for 25 years until RGIII came along. They’ve got something to prove and Briles, I’m quite sure, would be delighted to have everyone kiss his ass every time he runs up the score.

    I’m pretty sure he knows the teams he has faced are weak. I think he’s simply running up the score to send a message. It has nothing to do with class. It has everything to do with respect. Say what you want, but teams fear his offense.

    But what has impressed me most is the defense this year. This is a team that used to win on offense alone and most games I wondered if the defense even suited up. But now it actually has a decent defense and I think because of this, they’ve earned their ranking.

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