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Miami-FSU game making point-spread history

Michael E. Carey AP

Thanks to a combination of the rankings of the two teams involved and a really poor slate of Week 10 games, this weekend’s edition of the Miami-Florida State in-state rivalry game is drawing a vast majority of the attention.

Not only does it involve a pair of former national powers seeing a resurgence, it’s two teams that are both undefeated and ranked inside the Top 10.  The matchup will have implications when it comes to the ACC as well as the BCS title chase.  On paper, it’s a huge Sunshine State showdown dripping with conference and national implications.

Sin City, however, sees a yawner on the horizon.

According to Las Vegas insider/ESPN radio host RJ Bell, the Seminoles opened as a 21-point favorite over the Hurricanes for the game that will be played in Tallahassee Saturday.  The line has subsequently gone up to plus-22 for The U.

Bell stated that is far and away the “[b]iggest spread in history between undefeated Top 10 teams this late in season.”  The only other two such games, going back to 1980, with a double-digit spread?  Bell has that 411 as well:

  • Texas minus-12 hosting Oklahoma State (10/25/2008)
  • Miami minus-11 vs. Ohio State (2002 BCS Title Game)

Texas won its game, but didn’t cover (28-24).  The Buckeyes-Hurricanes game?  I think we all know how that one played out.

While the Seminoles’ dominance — Top 10 in scoring offense/defense and total offense/defense — over the vast majority of the 2013 season is certainly playing a significant role in the lopsided spread in — and thus perception of — the game, the Hurricanes have certainly done their share of late to add to the blowout talk.

In each of the last three games, UM has been forced to overcome double-digit deficits.  In two of those games, they scored the winning touchdown with under a minute remaining in regulation.

Those three wins came against ACC teams — Georgia Tech, North Carolina and Wake Forest — that have a combined record of 9-12 against FBS programs this season.

As for FSU’s last three conference games?  They’ve outscored Maryland, Clemson and North Carolina State — the former two are/were ranked in the Top 25 — by a combined score of 163-31.

Hopefully, the game on the field will be better than what most off it are predicting it to be.

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31 Responses to “Miami-FSU game making point-spread history”
  1. thegamecocker says: Oct 29, 2013 1:25 PM

    Kill ‘em NOLES!!!

  2. floridascuba1 says: Oct 29, 2013 1:32 PM

    Not to mention latter 2 were also undefeated at time of play.

  3. drummerhoff says: Oct 29, 2013 1:50 PM

    Wasn’t #2 Alabama favored by 10 points over #1 Notre Dame in last season’s BCS Championship game?

  4. mrsmell says: Oct 29, 2013 1:54 PM

    drummerhoff says:
    Oct 29, 2013 1:50 PM
    Wasn’t #2 Alabama favored by 10 points over #1 Notre Dame in last season’s BCS Championship game?
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    I believe it was -10/-11 to start and dropped to -8/-9. Dont recall as well, but did remember slamming cash on Bama.

  5. jlindy87 says: Oct 29, 2013 2:04 PM

    @drummerhoff. Alabama wasn’t undefeated

  6. canedaddy says: Oct 29, 2013 2:30 PM

    Yes… that’s it, keep adding fuel to the Seminoles’ overconfidence. They’re unbeatable, right? No way they can lose to this mediocre Miami team!

    Have they made a rap video yet?

  7. raiderufan says: Oct 29, 2013 2:40 PM

    Last years FSU team was running over teams as well….that is until they had a stinker and lost to NC St. They also lost to a Florida team they should have beat.

    FSU, much like a lot of the ACC, has had a tendency to drop games they shouldn’t through the course of the season.

    On paper it looks like the Canes are out matched…they don’t play on paper.

  8. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 29, 2013 3:07 PM

    canedaddy says: Oct 29, 2013 2:30 PM

    Yes… that’s it, keep adding fuel to the Seminoles’ overconfidence. They’re unbeatable, right? No way they can lose to this mediocre Miami team!

    Have they made a rap video yet?
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    Everything you post on here reeks of someone stuck in 1988.

  9. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 29, 2013 3:08 PM

    raiderufan says: Oct 29, 2013 2:40 PM

    Last years FSU team was running over teams as well….that is until they had a stinker and lost to NC St. They also lost to a Florida team they should have beat.

    FSU, much like a lot of the ACC, has had a tendency to drop games they shouldn’t through the course of the season.

    On paper it looks like the Canes are out matched…they don’t play on paper.
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    EJ Manuel is in Buffalo.

    Your point is rubbish.

  10. canedaddy says: Oct 29, 2013 3:13 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Oct 29, 2013 3:07 PM

    Everything you post on here reeks of someone stuck in 1988.

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    It was a great year.

  11. jimmy1026 says: Oct 29, 2013 3:45 PM

    Canedaddy, never heard an fsu player or coach refer to miami as mediocre or anything other then a good undefeated team. Canedaddy needs to focus on canes fans, or lack of based on the fact that the stadium for the WF game wAs 2/3 empty? Serious?? A collage football dynasty? A top 10 team? Seems like hurricane fans think the canes are crappy and mediocre. Im sure they will be at tuis game in droves…..common for miami fans. Bandwagon jumpers… Lol

  12. canedaddy says: Oct 29, 2013 4:10 PM

    Sorry, no idea what you’re trying to say there, chief.

  13. jimmy1026 says: Oct 29, 2013 5:19 PM

    The big diff in this game, is that its a rivalry game. I’m an FSU fan and i think that FSU should be able to get the job done pretty well. The spread is now over 3 td’s, but i think thats a bit much simply because of the rivalry factor. I do think the canes are over rated as far as polling goes, but it is real hard to go undefeated in college fb, and the canes are, so FSU has to respect that. As for FSU, they belong where they are. They are a dynamic and explosive team, no fluke. They completely dominated clemson under tuff hostile conditions. They dominate near every game. If they even remotely do that to the canes, i think FSU should be staring a championship in the face. That would be two top tens, including number 3, in three weeks.

  14. hor2012 says: Oct 29, 2013 5:52 PM

    In state riviarly game. I’ll take the canes and 21

  15. onbucky96 says: Oct 29, 2013 6:49 PM

    Gambling on college football happens in America? I’m shocked!

  16. ualum2000 says: Oct 29, 2013 8:59 PM

    Wow. You’d think FSU had 5 national championships or something. Must be rivalry week because the arrogance is at an all time high. Need to wear rubber boots to read this stuff. Can’t wait to see the collective gasp by Nole fans on national television when Jameis Christ gets his teeth knocked out by Denzel Parryman. I have been to many games in this rivalry. Rankings, stats, star players, etc. don’t mean anything when the game starts. The only crappy part about Saturday night will be navigating your dry stadium, ugly women, and that annoying played out war chant for 4 hours.

  17. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 29, 2013 9:10 PM

    Miami fans are just like Dallas fans, I swear.

  18. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 29, 2013 9:11 PM

    Miami 17
    Florida State 45
    FINAL.

  19. chachooga says: Oct 29, 2013 9:12 PM

    When Oregon plays Stanford (who actually lost to Utah) will we have to hear all this crap.

    Vegas spread will come way down. Just wait. If not it is lunacy.

    This is UM vs. FSU, it is a rivalry….anything goes.

    The way the Media blowhards are portraying it, it is lose lose for the ACC. Miami wins….FSU was overrated….if FSU wins…well they should have.

    Miami is undefeated. Miami beat Florida…when Florida had everyone of their starters.

    The blabbering line being repeated over and over shows how ridiculous media blabber is.

    really….STANFORD LOST TO UTAH!!!! They are ranked #5 and nobody is peeing on their parade.

    What a joke.

    This is going to be an exciting game. It should be celebrated….Miami has better athletes than Clemson at every position. It is going to be a tough game.

    I would make a wager on the spread falling below 10….any takers???

    I don’t really gamble but whatever. I don’t even understand it.

  20. ualum2000 says: Oct 29, 2013 9:41 PM

    And Nole fans are just plain annoying.

  21. thegamecocker says: Oct 30, 2013 9:37 AM

    Will the Wicked Witch of Coral Gables be attending the game? She is already dressed for tomorrow. Being the big-mouth bitz she is, she can wear the same outfit everyday! The ‘Canes should have been disciplined much harder than 9 scholly’s. More bowl bans should have been handed down. I hope FSU smacks the living snot out of Miami on Saturday.

  22. thegamecocker says: Oct 30, 2013 9:38 AM

    In case some of you couldn’t guess, I was referring to MADAM SHALAYLA as the Wicked Bitz….

  23. florida727 says: Oct 30, 2013 11:15 AM

    As a Gator fan, which means I have no dog in the fight and can (hopefully) look at this objectively… I’d pick FSU by 30, which is exactly the same thing I did when they played Clemson.

    For those of you citing Miami’s win over Florida, take a closer look at that game. Florida time-of-possession was more than 2-to-1 in their favor, and they outgained Miami more than 2-to-1 in total yardage. SIX turnovers (actually five and a failed 4th down conversion in the red zone) is what prevented a Gator win. Does Miami deserve credit? Absolutely. They stuffed the 4th down failure and they caused the turnovers (mostly).

    But to translate that into being competitive against FSU? That’s a bit of a stretch. Oh yeah, and the game is in Tallahassee. Miami has a nice season going, and all props to them for it, but it gets derailed for at least one week, this week, and by a lot.

  24. phinswinafceast says: Oct 30, 2013 2:31 PM

    I actually have to say that all this media trash talking on Miami has got to be more motivating than what we even saw in the 80′s with the catholics vs convicts media hype. I hope my boys go into Tally prepared for all out war because that’s what its going to be…an absolute battle to the end. Heads will roll, blood will be spilled, let’s go canes

  25. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 30, 2013 2:42 PM

    Miami fans are deranged ha. Making up this false “us against the world” nonsense. What, are you going to accuse Jaboo and those guys of making a rap video next?

  26. scbaby2013 says: Oct 30, 2013 11:35 PM

    Hope Florida state wins against thug u. Plus Florida state is exciting to watch

  27. vze356n7 says: Oct 31, 2013 8:11 AM

    UM alum here. Agreed that FSU should be favored to win, but think it will be much closer than the current Vegas odds.

    I think we all want to see a good, entertaining and competitive game between two old rivals — let’s get that rivalry going again as a meaningful one. I loved it when those two would slug it out in nail-biting fashion. Both teams have loads of talent and pretty much solid coaching. No doubt that Jameis is very, very exciting to watch.

    Whoever wins .. I root for them as reps for the ACC in any BCS bowl. We need to show those SEC types and pollsters that you have to respect the ACC.

    But, as a UM alum …. Go ‘Canes!

  28. sillec28 says: Oct 31, 2013 9:55 AM

    Miami is a complete fraud as the #7 team in the nation. FSU is a legitimate #1, 2, or 3 team in the nation. FSU will destroy them. And I’m a Gator, I don’t even like FSU or Miami.

  29. teambringitstrong says: Nov 4, 2013 12:21 PM

    canedaddy says: Oct 29, 2013 2:30 PM

    Yes… that’s it, keep adding fuel to the Seminoles’ overconfidence. They’re unbeatable, right? No way they can lose to this mediocre Miami team!

    Have they made a rap video yet?

    63

    55

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    How did that taste? #NoleBlooded

  30. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 4, 2013 1:21 PM

    You got your turnovers, which led to your only points.

    I know my team. We had an off game and still hung 40. Without the turnovers, we score 60.

    It’s not your time yet, Miami. It’s 2013, stop talking about the 80s or 90s when none of these guys were even BORN when that stuff was taking place.

  31. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 4, 2013 1:24 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 29, 2013 9:11 PM

    Miami 17
    Florida State 45
    FINAL.
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    So I was a couple of points off.

    SUE ME.

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