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‘Noles close to within nine points of Ducks in AP poll

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With precious little drama this week, our focus when it comes to the polls has shifted from movement to points.

Specifically, what Florida State is doing in the Associated Press poll.

Coming out of Week 9, the Seminoles sat at No. 3, 42 points behind No. 2 Oregon.  Exiting Week 10 with yet another undefeated scalp on its résumé, FSU has pulled to within nine points of the Ducks in a poll that admittedly plays no role whatsoever in determining who will play for the BCS title.

That move somewhat mirrors the coaches’ poll, which is one-third of the BCS formula, as the ‘Noles went from 64 points behind the Ducks last week to 39 behind today.

As was the case with the coaches, FSU also gained first-place votes from the media.  Six of the 60 AP voters cast their votes to the Seminoles, up from two a week ago.  Conversely, No. 1 Alabama dropped three first-place votes to 52 and Oregon lost one and now has two.

No. 4 Ohio State, No. 5 Baylor and No. 6 Stanford all held steady from a week ago, while Auburn (No. 7), Clemson (No. 8), Missouri (No. 9) and LSU (No. 10) all moved up one spot.  The latter quartet’s climb came at the expense of Miami, which fell seven spots to No. 14.

Texas Tech was an even bigger tumbler coming off a loss, going from No. 15 after Week 9 to No. 25 after Week 10.  Oklahoma State, which handed the Red Raiders their second straight loss, moved up three to inherit Tech’s No. 15 spot.

Michigan State made the biggest jump up this week, going from No. 24 to No. 18 on the strength of a dominating win over then-No. 23 Michigan.  The Wolverines were the only team to drop out of the Top 25, replaced by No. 24 Notre Dame.

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17 Responses to “‘Noles close to within nine points of Ducks in AP poll”
  1. classyjacklambert says: Nov 3, 2013 2:27 PM

    Florida State would kill Oregon.

  2. canetic says: Nov 3, 2013 2:49 PM

    If Oregon beats Stanford they’ll push that margin up. Why even worry about BCS standings at this point in the season.

  3. drummerhoff says: Nov 3, 2013 3:05 PM

    The ‘Noles have an ACC problem … The longer we go into the season, the ACC’s weakness reveals itself and the annual punctuation is rivalry weekend when the ACC schools get thumped by their SEC in-state big brother. I’m sure FSU will beat the Gators. after that is the ACC championship and they’ll be 20 point favorites again not because they are great, but because the ACC is so weak. After all, the odds makers have already said FSU is a 7 point underdog to Oregon or Bama.

  4. teambringitstrong says: Nov 3, 2013 3:16 PM

    drummerhoff says: Nov 3, 2013 3:05 PM

    The ‘Noles have an ACC problem … The longer we go into the season, the ACC’s weakness reveals itself and the annual punctuation is rivalry weekend when the ACC schools get thumped by their SEC in-state big brother. I’m sure FSU will beat the Gators. after that is the ACC championship and they’ll be 20 point favorites again not because they are great, but because the ACC is so weak. After all, the odds makers have already said FSU is a 7 point underdog to Oregon or Bama.
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    Yeah right. Your OPINION would be valid if not for one FACT. The ‘Noles are KILLING teams. It would be different if they were struggling. Blasted Clemson on the road, and beat down Miami in Tally. The Big Ten is WEAK, not the ACC. Now you show me where FSU is a 7 point dog to Oregon or Bama. Oregon doesn’t have the ATTITUDE to match FSU. As a matter of fact the PAC12 is weak as well as the Big Ten. UCLA, flawed, Stanford, already got their wigs split at Utah, USC, done, Oregon hasn’t had a test yet, not b/c they are strong but their schedule to this point is weak. Now, let them go to Palo Alto and beat down Stanford like FSU did Clemson and come back to me.

  5. dirtydrew says: Nov 3, 2013 3:36 PM

    FSU plays no one. Just like Ohio State.

  6. tmb333 says: Nov 3, 2013 3:47 PM

    How does a voter justify voting Clemson ahead of Miami. FSU killed Clemson at Death Valley, while FSU drilled Miami at FSU. Miami was in the game for a half, Clemson never was.

  7. charles130 says: Nov 3, 2013 3:52 PM

    ACC is still the third best conference.

    SEC is first by a mile…Pac 12 second..then ACC…Big Ten is probably fourth (that’s Ohio State’s big problem)…and the Big 12 is completely horrible.

  8. melikefootball says: Nov 3, 2013 3:57 PM

    What a goofy poll, keeps ND at 24 beating Navy by 4, WOW what a victory. It is rigged.

  9. drummerhoff says: Nov 3, 2013 3:58 PM

    Teambringsit, You asked me to show you so … Here is what the people who put their money where their mouth is think of your Noles:

    “Jay Kornegay of LVH has also provided VegasInsider.com with lines for potential matchups in the BCS Championship Game. The book has Alabama listed as a three-point favorite vs. Oregon. The Tide is favored by 6½ for a potential showdown vs. FSU in Pasadena. Also, Saban’s bunch is a 13½-point favorite vs. Ohio State.

    Due to its style of play and the fact that Alabama’s defense is the only one considered stout enough to slow its offense, Oregon has the same number as ‘Bama when matched against FSU and a more expensive number if it faces the Buckeyes.Kornegay and LVH have the Ducks favored by 6½ vs. the ‘Noles and 17 versus the Buckeyes.

    The line for FSU-Ohio St. is Jimbo Fisher’s team laying 10 points. Urban Meyer won his first five games against FSU during his time at Florida, but he lost in Tallahassee in his final game in that rivalry.”
    http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/story.cfm/story/1461252

  10. classyjacklambert says: Nov 3, 2013 4:33 PM

    @tmb
    Clemson would be 7 point favorites at Miami because they are the better team. That’s why they are voted ahead of them.

  11. longborer69 says: Nov 3, 2013 5:23 PM

    PAC 12 in out of conference play: 30-6.

    Against major opposition (AQ conference or major independents — ND, BYU, Army, Navy), the PAC is 8-5. The combined records of those major opponents is 69-43.

    The losses are to Ohio State, Auburn, ND (two teams lost to them), and Northwestern.

    Against minor FBS opposition (weaker independents, non-AQ conferences), the PAC is 13-0. This includes a win over Boise State, which most would consider a pretty good quality win.

    Against FCS schools the PAC is 9-1.

    The PAC’s only bad loss is to the 4th ranked FCS team. The next worst loss is Cal (the dregs of the PAC) losing to 4-5 Northwestern. The four remaining losses are to ranked teams with 2 or fewer losses.

    The PAC is 2-0 against the ACC this year. Oregon squashed Virginia (meaningless). A middling PAC team (USC) beat BC 35-7. FSU and Clemson both struggled to put away BC. USC did not.

    FSU has a great team. They may even be a better team than Oregon. But when FSU fans try to tell us that the ACC is a better conference, people who know what has happened this year point and laugh. Not at FSU. At you.

    Because no conference has remotely the resume that the PAC has this year. Not the SEC, and certainly not the ACC.

  12. duckman62 says: Nov 3, 2013 5:26 PM

    drummerhoff,

    Don’t confuse the FSU fans with facts. They whine and care little for facts, almost as well as USC fans! We still have lots of football to play, and if Bama and Oregon win out, it looks like they are the show. If Bama or Oregon drop one, FSU will get their dance card stamped. It is going to be fun watching it all play out on the field!

  13. gquesen says: Nov 3, 2013 5:37 PM

    Before, the UCLA and Washington games, hell, even before the Tennessee game, the media said these were huge “tests” for Oregon. Oregon proceeds to destroy these teams and somehow the narrative becomes “Well, the pac-12 is just weak.” The ACC, which before the season was being laughed at, is now somehow a great conference. I wanted Oregon to play Alabama to begin the season, but now I sincerely want an FSU-Oregon title game. And yes, Oregon is favored at this point.

  14. drummerhoff says: Nov 3, 2013 6:47 PM

    Duckman, my family and friends are FSU. Here is what I know: they hate the fact that their home schedule is so bad. Basically, they have one home game each season they can count on: the UF game or the game against the U. FSU alum know the ACC drags them down but they live with it. The difference this year is access to the Championship. They know they don’t control their own destiny and are acting out. Bama and the SEC are beyond reproach so OU and the PAC 12 is baring the brunt of FSU’s rage. It’s too bad. They have a good football team, but it’s hard to tell how good when they don’t play a great schedule with back to back quality opponents.

  15. duckman62 says: Nov 3, 2013 10:54 PM

    Thank you drummerhoff. You are the first I have seen that acknowledges the fact that the conference is holding them back. Luckily, after this year, it will go to a playoff (and hopefully will go to an 8-12 team playoff soon) and this type of talk will go away. I have never understood the logic in having a computer determine anything in football, but that was how they decided to do the BCS. It should be determined on the field, not the computer or sportswriter! Personally, I think that both Oregon and FSU are the 2 best teams in the country, because when you sit down and analyze it, who has Bama played? After the LSU game, that should be put to rest. I am sure there are quite a few Alabama fans who would disagree with me, but that is understandable. Both Alabama and FSU have legacy votes and unfortunately, Oregon doesn’t. That can change this year though, if we win out all the way!

  16. longborer69 says: Nov 4, 2013 4:01 AM

    Oregon has legacy votes, too. More than FSU.

    FSU has a weak schedule, but so far theirs has been tougher than Oregon. The only reason we are still ahead of them with human voters is legacy votes. Perhaps you could also claim the BC game as a reason, but the Clemson and Miami blowouts negate that. It was still a 14 point win.

    We haven’t earned a higher ranking than FSU yet. We have a higher ranking because of legacy / perception that we are better, not because we’ve done more. We haven’t.

    Once we beat Stanford, that changes.

    I think we also get credit with the voters (and should) for at least trying to beef up our schedule. We have 9 conference games, FSU 8. They also have Florida, so call that a wash. But then, there are the other three games. We had Nicholls, they had Bethune Cookman, both FCS. Call that a wash, too.

    Then, we had Tennessee. They have Idaho. Tennessee is not good, but we thought they would be when we scheduled them. And they did beat USCe. Idaho, by contrast, has one win, against Temple.

    Then we replaced Nevada with Virginia. Virginia turned out to be worse than expected this year. But still a major conference team and better than Nevada. They had Nevada.

    Without even comparing the conferences, when you look at the OOC stuff, you say Oregon at least tried to put together a tough schedule.

    Nevada, Bethune Cookman, Idaho. FSU isn’t going to get much sympathy when the computers ding them for that kind of schedule.

  17. psl1196 says: Nov 4, 2013 6:44 PM

    I often wonder about these people who seem to care as much about conference as team. Let’s look at the teams. The team that FSU waxed 51-14 in Death Valley beat a healthy Georgia. That same team (again beaten by 37 at home by FSU) beat Virginia by the exact same score that Oregon did (59-10). The team Oregon hopes to beat Thursday night lost to Utah. Anybody who watches these 3 teams play would agree that the game would be close no matter the combination, but I’m not sure what about the teams Oregon has played or will play (you’re seriously touting Virginia on your schedule?) would make anyone think Oregon is more deserving than FSU. After all, FSU has beaten the 3 ranked teams they’ve played by a combined score of 155-28. Two of those teams are currently ranked 7 and 11 in the BCS. The Ducks beat BCS#19 UCLA (42-14). Bama incidentally beat BCS#15 Texas A&M (49-42). Maybe Alabama and Oregon should be arguing about who should be facing FSU.

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