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Report: Texas zeroing in on new AD as three finalists emerge

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By this time next week, Texas could have its replacement for DeLoss Dodds in place.  Maybe

According to Chuck Carlton of the Dallas Morning News, West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck, viewed as “No. 1 and 1A on Texas’ list,” has begun the interview process to potentially become the new AD at UT.  Despite being the “favorite,” Luck is not the only one who will interview with the eight-person advisory committee guiding the search as Arizona State’s Steve Patterson and Arkansas’ Jeff Long will do the same this week.

Carlton wrote that, “[u]nless something dramatically changes, those are the three finalists.”

A new AD could be tabbed this week, Carlton reports, although, if Luck takes the job as most at the school hope, an announcement likely wouldn’t be made until the following week as Texas travels to, of course, West Virginia Saturday for a Big 12 game.

Dodds officially announced Oct. 1 that he would be retiring from his post when his contract expires Aug. 31 of next year.  When a new AD is hired, that individual will take over the men’s athletic department — UT has separate ADs for men’s and women’s sports — while Dodds will slide into an advisory role.

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45 Responses to “Report: Texas zeroing in on new AD as three finalists emerge”
  1. southernpatriots says: Nov 3, 2013 11:02 AM

    Consensus among my UT friends in Texas is that Luck will be the next men’s AD. Texas reportedly made him an “offer he cannot refuse” and the Longhorns hope he won’t. For many Texas fans, Dodds cannot retire soon enough.

  2. drummerhoff says: Nov 3, 2013 11:24 AM

    I guess UT’s eight-person advisory committee is okay with Oliver Luck’s conference reign meant beliefs. Interesting times we live in.

  3. drummerhoff says: Nov 3, 2013 11:25 AM

    I guess UT’s eight-person advisory committee is okay with Oliver Luck’s conference realignment beliefs. Interesting times we live in.

  4. greggatx says: Nov 3, 2013 11:36 AM

    They are also zeroing in on the Big 12 Championship! Hook’em Horns!

  5. cometkazie says: Nov 3, 2013 11:50 AM

    This will be entertaining to watch.

    I’m with SP.

    College football is a lot more entertaining than that other lever.

  6. cometkazie says: Nov 3, 2013 11:50 AM

    This will be entertaining to watch.

    I’m with SP.

    College football is a lot more entertaining than that other level.

  7. bralinshan says: Nov 3, 2013 12:13 PM

    Jeff Long must have pictures of important people in bad positions…

    The guy just hired Bret Bielema, a lousy fit in ARK, to coach his most important team. Long has done NOTHING remarkable but is still highly regarded.

    Hiring Bielema is proof that good sense and Jeff Long are separate concepts.

  8. realfootballfan says: Nov 3, 2013 2:09 PM

    My question is why is Oliver Luck so coveted? His WVU hires haven’t exactly set the world on fire.

  9. burntorangehorn says: Nov 3, 2013 3:29 PM

    Color me unimpressed by Luck. He bungled what was already an I’ll-conceived succession plan for the WVU coaching job, and things are trending somewhat downward overall in Morgantown. He has no other real AD experience, and he’s basically just been a successful sports businessman and unknown quantity as an AD.

    Tom Jurich has arguably been the best AD in college sports in his tenure. The Cards haven’t achieved what some schools have, but they’ve gone from being a marginal D-I independent to perennial mid-major conference champ to apparently perennial BCS conference champ, and is now joining the ACC. He has replaced every UL athletic facility except their volleyball practice court and tennis bubble (both built early 90s), and the school now sports among the best overall athletics facilities systems in the NCAA. Their basketball program generates more revenue and net profits than lots of BCS comference football programs. While his résumé does have the lone Kragthorpe black mark, he has otherwise made excellent moves in hiring coaches, including John L. Smith, Petrino, and Strong in football, and of course Pitino in basketball.

    Luck would probably be OK, but there’s no one Texas should be pursuing harder than Tom Jurich.

  10. burntorangehorn says: Nov 3, 2013 3:31 PM

    That should read “ill-conceived.” Suck it, Apple. Tis is why I don’t buy your crap anymore.

  11. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 3, 2013 4:08 PM

    Luck is not a great choice for AD. Texas supporters need to be aware of what Luck left a mess with the HCSA. Ask MBIA and the Harris County Sports Authority of their opinions on Luck. Luck left for WVU right before the feces hit the oscillator on the debt he helped underwrite. MBIA is appealing a state decision on HSCA financing (which Luck was deeply involved with) on four points.

    1. The Sports Authority was authorized to waive its purported governmental immunity by the Texas State Legislature in Texas Government Code Section 1371.059(c), and it clearly and unambiguously waived any such claim of immunity in the operative deal documents.

    2. The Sports Authority also waived its governmental immunity to suit, as provided in Texas Local Government Code Section 271.152, by entering into contracts for goods or services relating to the issuance of approximately $1 billion in bonds.

    3. The Sports Authority, a joint creation of the City of Houston and Harris County, had no right to governmental immunity when it issued bonds in its proprietary capacity after a public vote by the citizens of Houston.

    4. The Sports Corporation waived its governmental immunity to suit, as provided in Texas Local Government Code Section 271.152, by entering into contracts for goods or services.

    Ask Moody’s as to why the HCSA has it’s junior bond ranking in junk status?

    What does this mean? Years of litigation in which the lawyers will make great coin on shifting through the HCSA debacle.

    Contrary to popular belief, I admire Texas and Dodds for what they accomplished
    in building Texas, Inc. What I don’t like is the outright arrogance that Texas continues to exhibit in thinking that Texas knows what is best for other conferences.

    Texas getting Luck may be good for them. I think Texas is in for a bumpy ride simply because the laws of physics, what goes up, has to come down. With the architect riding off into the sunset, what does his successor do for an encore?

    Same will apply to Alabama after Saban. That why you enjoy these days of feasting,
    we know the famine could be right around the corner.

    RTR

  12. cometkazie says: Nov 3, 2013 4:15 PM

    Well said, Amos.

  13. burntorangehorn says: Nov 3, 2013 4:38 PM

    Amos–100% honest question: what do you mean by “arrogance that Texas continues to exhibit in thinking that Texas knows what is best for other conferences”? When has Texas dictated anything to other conferences? There’s the common false impression that Texas drove off aggie, Nebraska, Mizzou, and Colorado, but even that doesn’t have anything to do with telling other conferences anything.

  14. deucez2 says: Nov 3, 2013 5:20 PM

    @burntorangehorn

    Jurich was approached and he politely declined the interview. He enjoys being the man around Louisville and is also the VP of the school.

    @amos

    Dodds and Powers displays most the arrogance regarding conference realignment. Powers is a Cal alumni and wants to align Texas with a perceived “academic” conference such as the PAC 12. Dodds wanted an easier path to the MNC game. Those conflicting ideas lead Texas to make a horrible long term decision when all the realignment dominoes were falling a few years ago. Now Texas is stuck in a dying conference but hopefully Luck will lead them out of it since he seems to be hawkish on realignment.

  15. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 3, 2013 9:14 PM

    Burntorange, with all due respect,

    Texas arrogance is well known nationally in both the academic and athletic communities. There is no dispute. I was first exposed to the arrogance in 1967 when Frank Erwin Jr. fought for complete, total and absolute control of the Daily Texan. That is another story for another time.

    In Athletics, Deloss Dodds and Texas have manipulated schools and conferences for their OWN interests in the following examples.

    1986, approached the SEC to join that conference only to be rebuffed by the conference when news broke out that the Texas Legislature was going to with hold the entire UT system funding if Texas continued.

    1990, Frank Broyles, Arkansas AD decided he and the Razorbacks had enough of Texas
    demands to subordinate Arkansas’s interests to Texas. He makes the sale of moving conferences to get away from Dodds and Texas. That results with the move in 1991 to the SEC.

    1994- Texas recruits the Big 8 to accept Texas and Texas A&M as members into a new
    unnamed conference. Baylor and Texas Tech find out and with Ann Richards (Baylor)
    and Kent Hance (Texas Tech) political clout. Those four teams gut the SWC and join
    a new Conference called the Big 12. Texas moves Big 8 headquarters from Kansas City
    to Dallas and has as their first commissioner, Deloss Dodds personal choice, Steve
    Hatchell,late commissioner of the recently departed SWC.

    Fast forward to the spring of 2o09 when the infamous confrontation between Nebraska’s
    AD Tom Osborne and Deloss Dodds on the LHN results in Colorado AND Nebraska going to the PAC-12 and B1G. Both schools chose to forego millions of dollars in TV
    revenue due them in order to get away from Texas.

    In 2010, Texas A&M and Missouri leave as well to the SEC, strictly because of Texas.

    Upon losing the National Championship game to Alabama, RTR!, Texas makes entreaties to join the B1G. The guise is enhancing the Athletic program, but B1G Presidents and Chancellors know Texas only wants to join the B1G in order to gain
    a split of $2 billion a year in Federal grant funds for twenty years for research purposes.
    Never mind the facts that the Universities had already spent respective tax monies on
    upgrading their respective research facilities and staffs over the previous decade and
    Texas DEMANDED a full share. The B1G kindly told Texas that they would take it under advisement and never considered Texas. The B1G does want Kansas and Iowa State.

    When Texas plays UCLA in 2011, University of Texas President, Bill Powers accompanies the team to LA to meet with PAC-12 commissioner about having Texas,
    Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech to form a quadrant in a revised PAC-16.
    Texas doesn’t have the votes with Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado(remember them?), USC and both Washington schools NOT wanting Texas. 7 out of 12 members.The real sticking point was the direct question by the PAC-12 to Powers stating that for Texas to be a member, they would have to subordinate the LHN to
    conference protocols and guidelines for the duration of the ESPN contract. Texas never follows up with the PAC-12 Office with a reply.

    When rebuffed by the B1G and the PAC-12, Texas seeks out the ACC since their TV
    revenue sharing is identical to that of the Big-12. Again, University Presidents and Chancellors see that Texas wants a shot at the same research revenue that had been
    extended to the B1G and decline. Pissed, Texas offers Clemson and Florida State to join the Big 12. Florida State Administrators and Faculty are so livid, the Faculty governing
    board told the school President to submit his resignation should a move be EVEN considered. FSU Faculty thinks Big 12 academics are a joke.

    Burntorange, this is not about Arkansas or Colorado or Nebraska or Texas A&M or Missouri. It’s not about the SEC, the B1G, the PAC-12 or the ACC.

    It is about Texas and the REALITY of the University of Texas arrogance on a national
    basis. You may not like that REALITY, but time and time again, Texas shows it.

    What was Deloss Dodds reply to a sports reporter when asked about “keeping up with
    the Jones”? Dodds replied “WE are the Jones!” That type of arrogance does not help
    Texas.

    Why did the Dallas Morning News write an article on Texas PARANOIA on OU/Texas
    weekend this year? The REALITY of Texas arrogance.

    You can get mad at me, you can try to blame me for what Texas has done to itself. It won’t change any actual facts.

    RTR

  16. tgaustin says: Nov 3, 2013 10:31 PM

    Amos,
    You have a bizarre and creepy love love affair with Texas!
    Straight up weird. May I recommend a few movies for you to view: “Single White Female” and “Conspiracy Theory”.

  17. darryl1978 says: Nov 3, 2013 11:00 PM

    Amos,

    What are you doing on this blog anyways? I think you know Nicky’s days are number down in Tuscalooser and you are venting your frustration. The only thing Tide fans are going to be rolling are the paper bags over their heads. You need to get your facts straight buddy. Texas A&M did not bolt to the SEC because of Texas. They originally wanted to move to the SEC with Texas in 1995 but the Texas Legislature would not approve the move. Now that other teams bolted because they could not beat Texas, they had a chance to do it especially when the Governor graduated from Texas A&M. Jump on the Texas bandwagon while you can. There is 0.5% chance that Alabama will outbid Texas for Nick’s services. You better hope that he turns it down.

    Nick Saban 2014–Hook Em!!!!

    BTW….Mrs. Saban wasn’t looking for vacation homes.

  18. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 4, 2013 12:53 AM

    Daryl,

    Nope,

    Nice try though.

    Using your own words

    ” They originally wanted to move to the SEC with Texas in 1995 but the Texas Legislature would not approve the move.”

    Interesting, since Texas had already executed a move to form the Big 12 in 1994 along with A&M, Baylor and Tech. So using your logic, Texas would form a league with the Big Eight to leave one year later for a conference that had not extended an invitation to them. Texas has no shot at the SEC in 1994(nor now, since we already have our Texas team on Texas A&M) when Frank Broyles at Arkansas would have blocked any entry into the SEC along with Alabama, both Mississippi schools, LSU, Georgia, Florida and Kentucky? The SEC didn’t want a Texas team at that juncture. You need to get with your boyfriend tg austin and watch his favorite movies “Single White Female” and “Conspiracy Theory”.

    Saban isn’t going to Austin simply because Mack is winning in an extremely weak
    conference and if Texas didn’t pull the trigger on Mack when he was losing, what makes you think Texas removes Mack on a winning season and a possible BCS
    game? Should Saban choose Texas, I’ll wish him good luck and thanks for the four
    National Championships. It will also prove that Texas is nothing more than Alabama
    wannabes. Alabama is what Texas wants to be when they decide to put their big boy pants on.

    Face it, supporters of Texas like you and tgaustin is the reason the Dallas Morning News reported on OU/Texas weekend of the paranoia the University of Texas exhibits daily and no amount of weak personal attacks nor the outline of the actual actual facts can hide the fact that Texas is merely a shadow of their former glory in a boutique conference.

    You have a problem with your paranoia, take it up with the Dallas Morning News.
    Until then,

    RTR

  19. darryl1978 says: Nov 4, 2013 1:13 AM

    Amos…my apologies. The SEC were begging for Texas and Texas A&M back in 1990 not 1995.

    http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2011/1990-sec-expansion-southeastern-conference/

    Read it and insert your foot in your mouth when you are done…

    “For its part, the SEC wasn’t going to sit idly on the sidelines. On May 31, 1990, the SEC presidents voted to authorize expansion, identifying six schools as potential members: Texas, Texas A&M, Florida State, Miami, South Carolina and Arkansas. Ole Miss President Gerald Turner headed the conference’s expansion committee. He told the Washington Post that the CFA’s inevitable decline meant the SEC would negotiate its own television contracts in the future and that the “first step in that direction is minimizing the force of competing conferences in our geographic area.” In other words, the SEC wanted to keep the Atlantic Coast Conference and a potential Big East football conference out of the State of Florida.

    But SEC Commissioner Roy Kramer also wanted to go on the offensive. Keith Dunnavant noted, “The SEC’s area of dominant influence fell short of the footprint desired by many consumer-oriented companies,” which Kramer sought as sponsors. To make the “footprint” more sponsor-friendly, Kramer wanted to move into South Carolina, Arkansas and especially Texas. By targeting Texas, Texas A&M and Arkansas, Kramer had effectively declared war on the Southwest Conference, where all three schools were members. It was one thing to recruit independent schools; the SEC was contemplating an unprecedented raid on a fellow conference.

    Yet the time was ripe to strike the SWC, which then consisted of seven Texas schools and Arkansas. The SWC’s small footprint meant it wasn’t a terribly lucrative conference. Arkansas Athletic Director Frank Broyles said his school would make $1 million more a year by switching to the SEC. And the SWC was rocked by a series of scandals that enveloped most of its Texas members, notably Southern Methodist University, which the NCAA shut down in 1987. Arkansas was also eager to swap the low-level competition in the SWC — e.g., Rice and Baylor — for stronger SEC foes like Georgia and Tennessee. When the SEC formally approached Arkansas, there was no hesitation: On August 1, 1990, the school’s trustees unanimously voted to join the SEC, effectively the following July.

    SEC expansion, however, meant adding at least one more school. The SEC planned to take advantage of a little-known NCAA rule that allowed a conference with 12 members to organize as two divisions and play a separate conference championship game. The rule was originally adopted for the benefit of a Division II conference, and no Division I-A conference had ever invoked it. Kramer and the SEC presidents quickly realized that a championship game would make a future television package far more attractive to the networks.

    The magic 12th school would not come from the State of Texas. Although Texas and Texas A&M were on the SEC’s original expansion wish list, politics made either a non-starter. With Arkansas’ likely departure, the SWC would collapse without its two biggest Texas schools. That was unpalatable to Texas legislators — many of whom were alumni of the other five SWC members — and Texas and A&M were publicly threatened with retaliation if they left. Eventually, the SWC did dissolve, with most of the Texas schools merging with the Big Eight into the Big 12.”

    You don’t even know what you are talking about. Go back to your Gump U. home page and talk about how you bought crimson pants with white shoes. You are nothing but a jealous little man whose title run is about to end.

    Nick Saban 2014–Hook Em

    BTW Nick only cares about money in which Gump U. doesn’t have.

  20. cometkazie says: Nov 4, 2013 9:21 AM

    “BTW….Mrs. Saban wasn’t looking for vacation homes.”

    I do know when Saban interviewed at LSU, the missus came along with him.

    They have a vacation home in the Georgia mountains, which seems to me at least to be a much better vacation destination than Austin.

  21. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 4, 2013 10:19 AM

    Daryl,

    You made my point.

    Using your own words.

    “When the SEC FORMALLY approached Arkansas, there was no hesitation: On August 1, 1990, the school’s trustees unanimously voted to join the SEC, effectively the following July.”

    Why not Texas?

    Interest is not an invitation. Texas went to the SEC in 1986 and 1990. Each time, Texas NEVER had the votes. The SEC Presidents and Chancellors DID NOT
    want Texas. Frank Broyles did a masterful job outlining why Arkansas would make a better fit for the SEC (read Broyles did a great job in twisting the hatchet in Texas’s back as a parting short out the door). Alabama, the alpha dog in the SEC, did not want Texas as a member. Add both Mississippi schools, LSU, Georgia, Florida and Kentucky as NOT wanting Texas as a member. Seven out of ten members.

    To balance out the league, South Carolina was added to make a competitive eastern
    division for Kramer’s championship game. The rest is history.

    For your information, as late as 2010, Texas was desperately trying to join the B1G

    April 20, 2010: Osborne writes Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman in an e-mail: “I spent some time with Jim Tressel from Ohio State yesterday, and think it would be a good idea if we met sometime soon regarding the expansion landscape.”

    May 10, 2010: B1G 12 commissioner Beebe writes administrators of Big 12 schools again on the hot-button matter of expansion. He has talked to Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany, he says in the e-mail. “He affirmed once again that if the Big Ten decides to engage in formal discussions with institutions, he first would contact the commissioner of the conference.” The following month, it is revealed that Ohio State president Gorden Gee told Delany in an April 20 e-mail that Gee had spoken with Texas president Bill Powers in regards to his inquiry.

    Even in 2010, Texas was looking out for a way to get out of the Big 12. Nebraska AD
    outlined Nebraska’s desire to get away from Texas and all their machinations to control a conference. Nebraska wanted stability, not games. Nebraska was willing to walk away from $11 million dollars in order to be rid of Texas. (Read, Osborne,
    like Broyles, twisted the knife in Texas on the way out the door).

    Being a money driven business the way College Football is, explain which program
    would be a better choice for a conference.

    Texas or Arkansas? (SEC)

    Texas or South Carolina? (SEC)

    Texas or Nebraska? (B1G)

    Texas or Rutgers? (B1G)

    Texas or Maryland? (B1G)

    Texas or Texas A&M? (SEC)

    Texas or Missouri? (SEC)

    Texas or Virginia Tech? (ACC)

    Texas or Louisville? (ACC)

    Texas or Notre Dame? (ACC)

    Notice the pattern? NO conference wants Texas as a member.

    Texas would bring prestige, TV markets, and a fertile recruiting ground for a conference. Yet Texas sits on the sideline waiting to get into the game. Texas’s
    NATIONAL reputation is one of arrogance and outright disdain for fellow conference members. That is what kills Texas in expansion talks every time. You may not like reading the truth based on actual facts, but that is REALITY, something Texas doesn’t do well in dealing with. That is the main reason that
    Texas supporters are paranoid. They can’t handle reality.

    RTR

  22. darryl1978 says: Nov 4, 2013 10:48 AM

    Now you are backpeddling….Did you even read the article? There was no interest because the Texas Legislature wouldn’t approve any of it. You need their approval to move conferences. Apparently you are an outsider who knows nothing about Texas politics. Nothing in that article states that Alabama didn’t want them. Cite the article where it states that. If that was the case in which it isn’t then you no right to call Texas arrogant when you cheer for an arrogant University. But Alabama isn’t arrogant. They are not as rich as Texas. You can’t handle reality that Texas will outbid Alabummer. Unless Nick doesn’t like more money, you have nothing to worry about. Although I find it funny his wife doesn’t like it there. Enjoy these last games with Nicky.

    Nick Saban 2014

  23. darryl1978 says: Nov 4, 2013 10:55 AM

    comet….apparently you didn’t understand my last post and you must be a typical SEC bandwagon fan. First of all you need to come to Austin because you never been here. Second when I laughed about Mrs. Saban looking for a vacation home, that laugh was because Austin, TX is not a vacation spot period. However I did live in the dump state called GA and trust me the homes and land is a lot better in Austin. BTW comet and amos, Texas doesn’t have a state income tax in which will help Texas outbid Gump U. CHEERS!!!!!

    Nick Saban 2014!!!!

  24. burntorangehorn says: Nov 4, 2013 11:51 AM

    Amos, there’s a lot of inaccurate revisionism and selective memory in that account, and what isn’t is ancient history at most. From the collapse of the SWC, which was more a result of issues with SMU and a&m issues than anything else, Texas has no history of telling other conferences what to do. It did place conditions on accepting the Big 8’s overtures to forge the Big 12, including some that Tom Osborne hated, because he relied on skirting academic issues to get partial-qualifiers in the door.

    Your statements about the B1G and Pac-12 having “rebuffed Texas” are false. Texas placed conditions, namely that they retain third-tier media rights. The conferences did not want to grant these conditions, so the parties went no further. It wasn’t a case of Texas’ begging and being turned away, which is what you seem to think.

    There are too many other inaccuracies to itemize on a mini keyboard, but suffice to say that revisionism is no way to support your point.

  25. cometkazie says: Nov 4, 2013 12:25 PM

    Darryl, I’ve been to Austin and the Ga mountains are nicer.

    I also was stationed at Ft. Hood for three summers and the climate sucked. I did like the Hill Country around Hunt. I never did get over to Big Bend Country, but I hear it is nice, too.

    Growing up in Shreveport a long time ago, a lot of kids went to Arkansas and aTm but not many to UTexas.

  26. darryl1978 says: Nov 4, 2013 2:04 PM

    burntorange…thank you!!! The demise of the SWC was due to SMU. That was probably the biggest scandal in college sports history. Especially when the Governor of Texas was involved.

    comet….what does the climate have to do with a coaching change? That point is mute because Saban coached at LSU and they have much worse weather. Also Killeen, TX is not Austin (its more Waco than anything). If that is your best argument, then you really don’t have one. BTW Texas hardly recruits skill players from Louisiana to begin with. Texas’ 3 star players are better than Louisiana’s 5 star players.

    HOOK EM!!!!

  27. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 4, 2013 5:35 PM

    Watching tsips and Bama fans go at it is kind of entertaining.

    I will say this, @burntorangehorn this statement makes no sense at all…

    “Your statements about the B1G and Pac-12 having “rebuffed Texas” are false. Texas placed conditions, namely that they retain third-tier media rights. The conferences did not want to grant these conditions, so the parties went no further.”

    That’s pretty much points to exactly what Amos is saying. Plenty of conferences would love the eyeballs that Texas brings to the table as Dodds did build a very strong brand, which is why there is always “interest”, but nobody wants the BS that goes with them as soon as the Horn’s open their mouth. So much so that the Horns are considering becoming an independent.

    Also, I don’t know why you think there is a false impression as to why A&M left the Big 12… the combination of Texas’ flirtation with the Pac 10 and Texas’ insistence on the LHN as opposed to a Big 12 Network left the conference on such shaky ground that schools all across the conference began to bolt for firmer ground. If that’s a false impression, why do you think 1/4 of the conference left?

  28. alligatorsnapper says: Nov 4, 2013 7:58 PM

    If Mrs. Saban is the key, she really likes Tuscaloosa and that area, and her charity is hugely beneficial in that area, such as Big Dog in a little pond. In Austin, she would hate the traffic, especially on the loop just about anytime, but God forbid the slow moving parking lot at drive times.

    I am conflicted on whether I want Saban to go to Texas, but I am really leaning against it on what I think he will do. If he gets full command of the football department, if he gets unbridled support of the UT boosters, and a huge bump up in pay, a guaranteed 5 year contract, and his wife is satisfied with the move after visiting the areas around Austin (for I do not think they would like living in Austin), then maybe, just maybe Nick Saban will move his talents westward to Austin…Maybe.

  29. darryl1978 says: Nov 4, 2013 8:38 PM

    If all you said was true, then why shop for a “vacation home” in the Austin area? There are plenty of other homes in this country she could of picked but for some reason she picked Austin. I don’t know why anyone who hates Traffic would decide to take a vacation there. By your reasoning she would never come to LA or NYC either. And you don’t have to live in a certain area to start a charity. There are plenty of celebrities that start charities in their hometown in which they don’t live there anymore. So that is not a very good argument. On the financial side UT will give him a huge bump (in which Mrs. Saban could probably buy the state of Alabama if she wanted). There is no state income tax in Texas as well.

  30. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 4, 2013 11:03 PM

    Burntorange,

    Nope,

    No revisionism is necessary. The actual facts are there. Texas just hates to admit that three conferences told them “No”. Texas looks to control a conference to enforce it’s agenda. Don’t think so? Then why is Deloss pushing the current Big 12 commissioner for his position?

    If Texas is a destination position, Explain why is every AD candidate that Texas says is in line said “No!”. Swarbrick at Notre Dame? No. Jurich at Louisville? Nope. Long from Arkansas? nope. Could it be negotiation ploys? Sure, anything is possible.

    Know one thing though, Deloss’s fingerprints will be all over the hire. Would you want to have a job in which the person you’re replacing WILL be looking over your shoulder EVERY day?

    To Daryl, the laughable explanation of the Texas Legislature inhibiting both Texas and A&M from moving to the SEC or any other conference was done in 1986, not 1990 when Texas first tried to move to the SEC. The sad facts are, Texas didn’t have the necessary votes for admission when 7 out of the ten members DID NOT want Texas. Arkansas was FORMALLY invited, Texas wasn’t.

    Guess what? Texas STILL doesn’t have the votes today. You think A&M, Arkansas and Missouri would support a Texas admission? That’s three no’s there. LSU , both Mississippi schools, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and Auburn would say
    “Hell NO!” That’s eleven. Kentucky, Vanderbilt and Tennessee would be laughing at the mere idea at Texas joining the SEC and once they would stop laughing, vote no.

    Face it Texas, your paranoia serves you well.

    RTR.

  31. darryl1978 says: Nov 4, 2013 11:08 PM

    Is anyone listening to the moron amos? I gave him an article debunking his so-called knowledge and he still won’t admit he was wrong. How laughable from a GUMP U. fan. Or maybe he hates the fact Texas owns Alabama all time in college football meetings. Ya that is it. No one is listening to you Amos. Go back to your Gump U. site and pray you dont lose this weekend.

    Nick Saban 2014==Hook Em!!

  32. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 5, 2013 12:30 AM

    Daryl,

    I don’t need to. You merely substantiated what I have said all along. Nice try. If I was as paranoid as you, I would be screeching “You said 1995 instead of 1990!” That is the foundation of your problem. You live in the past, of former glory rather than in the present which is REALITY.

    You want to blame the SMU pay for play scandal as the demise of the old SWC. It was merely the final illness for a dying conference. A conference all in one state was not viable for NATIONAL TV exposure. Couple that with an inordinate number of private schools with small alumni bases and the SWC was doomed from 1980 on. History is now repeating itself. The Big 12 as it exists today is very much like the old SWC. The Big 12 is nothing more than the old Big Eight with two dominant teams, Texas and Oklahoma. It is regional in exposure with Texas as the dominant TV market and no national footprint. West Virginia? Please tell the blog you’re not depending on WV as being a prime TV market.

    I understand you anger in being frustrated in a boutique conference and I forgive you for emotional outbursts and attempts to lash out at things you don’t understand or control. They are cries for help. I can’t help you but I will pray for you and also pray we win this weekend. If Nick ends up in Austin, great! He gave us great memories and National Championships. Personally, I’m cheering for Texas the rest of the year to end up 10-3. Why? Because that means that you’ll still have Mack Brown as your football coach and your dream of Nick Saban 2014 is buh-bye!

    RTR.

  33. darryl1978 says: Nov 5, 2013 1:38 AM

    good try moron Amos….you said it never happened at all….I am not going to bother cutting and pasting the proof I already showed you because everyone in here thinks you have a lower IQ than Forrest Gump.

    Ok you just blamed Texas for the demise of the SWC but then you backtrack and stated that it was loaded with small private schools that doomed them from 1980 on. I also forgive you for having to come on this site so you can get some sleep. It must be hard to get rest knowing your school doesn’t have money to keep your coach. Especially when there are going to be NCAA sanctions on Gump U. Whether Texas wins out or loses out Mack can still exit the stage. Its just a matter if he wants to retire or get fired.

    Go to sleep little boy….Gump U. still has games to be played. Payroll Tide Payroll!!!

    Nick Saban 2014 Hook em!!!

  34. burntorangehorn says: Nov 5, 2013 1:53 AM

    Exactly. Somehow speaking from both sides of one’s mouth is supposed to smack of truth?

    Daryll, I will correct you on this: Austin is absolutely a tourist destination for many people. It’s not Disney World, but lots of people, including me, travel there for vacation. Many spend their time out on Lake Travis. Others haunt 6th street. I made a bad habit out of Jester King and 512 Breweries and just about every BBQ restaurant I could find, since BBQ seems to be a foreign concept to Marylanders who don’t know that there are actually some good kinds of domestic food.

  35. darryl1978 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:03 AM

    burnt…

    Lake Travis may be considered as a vacation spot, but compare to Florida no way. Sure you attract visitors from all over but it is not a top destination to spend your summer.

    Gump U. fans like Amos talk to from both sides of their mouth and backpeddle when proven wrong. He thinks I am upset because Saban is just a dream but each day it becomes more of a reality. He has Bevo envy hardcore. I have seen aggie fans, bears fans, sooner fans in a Texas blog, but why Gump U. fans? I thought they are gods greatest gift. Something must upset them to be trolling in our blogs. Oh well….can’t help pathetic losers.

  36. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 5, 2013 9:41 AM

    Daryl and Burntorange,

    No backpeddling necessary when the actual facts back what ACTUALLY happened.
    It’s known as REALITY.

    You keep justifying the Dallas Morning News article with every post. So sorry if actual facts offend your tender sensibilities. Bevo envy? Laughable. Your blog? Since when is any posting on Texas your blog?

    Sorry you can’t help yourself.

    Texas doing less with more

    RTR

  37. pushingiron says: Nov 5, 2013 9:58 AM

    While it is fun to read all of the arguments, the ten year old name calling “Gump U” is just silly, it hurts your arguments and your credibility. Keep it civil, there isn’t any need to trash talk. I personally do not see Saban going anywhere, Texas may have the money, but what Texas fans do not understand is that every single person in Alabama would mortgage their mobile home in addition to getting a pay-day loan using the cars on blocks in their front yard as collateral to keep Saban. Their fans are rabid supporters of their programs, and this is coming from a A&M “cultist” lol. They sell out spring games even in bad years. He isn’t going anywhere.

    I have a lot of respect for Dodds, Mack and what they have built at Texas, but even my B-I-L, brother, and sister who are all Texas grads think the “Texas Arrogance” displayed by their administration is out of bounds, and they do not feel it represents the students or fans (well maybe the t-shirt fans) and it has hurt the program. It will be interesting to see the post-Dodd years and hopefully the image of the program will change as well. We all want to see A&M/Texas play, and removing Dodd was the biggest hurdle.

    I am not sure how much longer Mack will stay, Sumlin’s success in Aggieland has reaped huge rewards in recruiting and income. The $750,000,000 in one year that A&M brought in was hugely impacted by the success on the field and broke Texas’ previous record of $400,000,000. That insures that Sumlin will not be going anywhere anytime soon. To regain any momentum, Texas needs a big splash, either winning big BCS games or hiring an exciting coach.

  38. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 5, 2013 10:53 AM

    Pushing Iron,

    Thank you. I have great Texas friends that are embarrassed with what UT Administration has done to Texas on a national basis. Texas may not play A&M again except in the playoffs if the SEC decides to go to a nine game conference schedule.

    Sumlin may end up in the pros before it ia all said and done.

    Alabama alums have more money than most people would think. We may talk with a drawl and live a simple life, but we’re not the Gumps that people tend to think we are. The only thing we have in common with Forrest is the money and a strong family life.

    RTR

  39. cometkazie says: Nov 5, 2013 11:54 AM

    We shoulda invoked “POOF” a couple of days ago.

  40. darryl1978 says: Nov 5, 2013 1:33 PM

    amos…where did I cite my source from the Dalas Morning news? The website I gave you was made strictly for SEC fans.

    Pushing Iron…you can’t say I have lost credibility about calling tide fans Gump U. fans, when you assume the state of Alabama lives in mobile homes.

    Cometkazie….you are nothing but a troll with no facts at all….so “POOF” to you.

    This article has nothing to do with SEC, so your opinion doesn’t matter. Whether you like it or not whether any conference accepts Texas or not games are played on the football field. If labeling texas and their fans names make you sleep better and you bring no facts. You are the joke not Texas fans. This is a money driven business. If you claim your boosters have more than we shouldnt be talking about this.

  41. pushingiron says: Nov 5, 2013 1:45 PM

    Amos, I have friends from ‘Bama that are professionals but when so many people think of Alabama they think of the typical stereotype, it was my way of equating their dedication to something most would understand. Alabama is a lot like the rest of the south (thank God) and Texas, the one thing you an count on with ‘Bama is that no matter the success of the Tide, the fans are as passionate as anyones. Money will not be an issue. It would come pouring in if need be.

    I could see Sumlin making a jump to the pro’s one day, I know that several clubs (including the Eagles when Kelley wasn’t sure what he was going to do) approached him during the off season, but the reports came out that he wasn’t interested at this time. I think the thing that separates Sumlin from so many right now is that he has always been in college football and he seems to love the college game and his impact on the young men as much as anything. The lure of the challenge might do it one day, but I would really be surprised if he left within the next five years.

  42. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 5, 2013 3:57 PM

    darryl1978 says: Nov 5, 2013 2:03 AM

    He has Bevo envy hardcore.
    ____________________________

    There’s that famous Texas arrogance on display.

    What does Saban have to envy about Texas? He’s won 3 national titles in 4 years at Bama, consistently gets top 5 classes into Tuscaloosa, and conversely UT has been in full tailspin mode since losing to Bama in ’09.

    Sure Texas has money, but don’t act like Alabama is Alcorn St. and can’t afford to pay Saban. He is already the highest paid coach in the country so Bama is obviously willing to spend. Sure, no state income tax is nice down here in Texas, but the property taxes are some of the highest in the nation, as well as a higher state sales tax, so that benefit is not near as good as you think.

    I don’t think the money is going to draw Saban from Alabama. The only real draw I can envision is if Saban wants to be the “savior” in Austin. If he could win a Title at UT that would put him in a very exclusive club of coaches that have won titles at 3 different schools. If I’m correct , that would be a club of 1. Also, the other compelling argument I’ve heard is that Mack Brown and DKR don’t cast near the shadow that Bear Bryant does. Even at 3 titles, he’s not halfway to passing Bryant yet.

  43. darryl1978 says: Nov 5, 2013 4:10 PM

    8to80…explain to me why Bear Bryant couldn’t beat Texas when he was coach at Alabama? If he is god like you think. I not going to say Alabama is not going to put up a fight to keep him, but you would think by his past resume that the money thing could be a huge factor. He left LSU for miami and tiger fans thought he was loyal, he told the dolphins that he will never leave them and one hour later he boarded a private jet to Tuscaloosa. Now the question you have to ask yourself. Will he do it again? I think that is why you see Tide trolls on this board that has nothing to do with them. You say its arrogance, I say you are scared about something and won’t admit it. Saban has proven he has no loyalty. Maybe he will stay, then again there is a good chance he might not. Those are the facts. Lets just see how it plays out ok?

  44. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 5, 2013 4:39 PM

    @darryl1978

    What does Bear Bryant not beating Texas have to do with anything I said? That was 3 decades ago at best.

    I’m not saying I think Bryant is a god. I’m saying the fan base in Alabama thinks he’s a god. He won 6 national titles and even though Saban has won 3 at Bama he’s still got a huge mountain to climb to be the best coach in Bama history.

    And Saban leaving LSU for the Dolphins is quite different than him possibly moving from Bama to Texas. Moving to the NFL was not a lateral move by any means. Moving back to the college level was about him realizing the pro game was far more different than the college game and he wasn’t suited for it. I know your innate Texas arrogance is about to get in the way on this one, but moving from Bama to Texas is a lateral move AT BEST. Alabama is not a stepping stone to a better job. Right now…. it’s THE job.

    But I’ll give you this, Saban has moved around a lot in his career, and it’s very possible he’s just bored at Bama and want’s a new challenge.

  45. darryl1978 says: Nov 5, 2013 9:55 PM

    HAHAHAHAHA!!! Read this GUMP U. fans!!!!

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/apnewsbreak-agent-says-saban-facing-001944997–ncaaf.html

    Don’t slit your wrist when you read it…

    Nick Saban 2014!!!!

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