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Reports: Jameis Winston investigated for alleged sexual assault

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While considering the source of the initial report, TMZ.com reported early Wednesday evening that Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston is being investigated by the Tallahassee Police Department for felony sexual assault.  The alleged victim filed a complaint of sexual assault with the police department way back on Dec. 7, 2012.

The Tallahassee Democrat subsequently confirmed that the “Tallahassee Police Department last year received a complaint of sexual battery against Florida State University star quarterback Jameis Winston.”

In a statement, FSU said that it could not comment due to the fact that there is an open investigation.  Winston, whose status has not changed per the school, was scheduled to address the media Wednesday evening, but the quarterback would only take football-related questions, again due to the open nature of the probe.

“We look forward to a speedy resolution of the issue,” the statement read in part. “Coach [Jimbo] Fisher and Jameis will be answering questions about football only until there is a resolution.”

An attorney who confirmed he represents Winston expressed surprised that the alleged incident has surfaced as it was his understanding that the case had been all but closed.

“This case has been going on for over a year. The case was basically closed and we’re not sure why it’s opened up,” Tim Jansen told the Democrat. “We’ve been cooperating with the law enforcement agencies and we’re hoping to get a quick resolution in favor of Mr. Winston.”

Winston, the current Heisman front-runner and triggerman for the No. 2 team in the country, has already been interviewed by the TPD, TMZ reported, and the investigation is ongoing.  The attorney Jansen told WCTV in Tallahassee that his client “has never been questioned by Tallahassee police about the incident, not in December of 2012 and not recently.”

Unnamed sources, which TMZ states were law enforcement and others, gave a few of the details of the alleged victims allegations:

She claims the alleged sexual assault was committed with the use of “physical force.”

According to the police report, the motive for the alleged crime was “sexual gratification.”  The alleged victim says drinking was involved before the incident.

The police report says on the day in question, someone called the cops at 4:01 AM.  When police arrived, we’re told there were photos taken of the alleged victim’s injuries as well as physical evidence collected.

There is, however, more to the story.  Or, at least, more to the story than was contained in TMZ‘s original report.

TomahawkNation.com obtained a copy of the police report of the alleged incident — names and details heavily redacted — which lists the suspect as between 5’9″ and 5’11″ and weighing approximately 240 pounds.  In his official FSU profile, Winston’s weight is listed as 228 pounds… while his height is listed at 6’4″.

No charges have been filed against anyone, including Winston, although the case again remains open.  The alleged victim “is working with the State Attorney’s Office,” the Democrat quoted a police spokesperson as stating.

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  1. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 13, 2013 7:40 PM

    Amazing the lengths people will go to in order to work an angle. Can’t get into the game on merit, so resorting to planting stories and digging up dirt that doesn’t exist? Shameful.

  2. eglsfan says: Nov 13, 2013 7:42 PM

    Amazing timing….I guess Ron Dayne will get Peter Warricks Heisman again

  3. vikingapologist says: Nov 13, 2013 7:42 PM

    I’m sorry but these “rape” cases are just weak! I know nothing of the story so I cannot judge, but, this just smells funny,

  4. atxcane says: Nov 13, 2013 7:45 PM

    Hmm…Winston moves to first in the Heisman push poll, year-old sexual assault charge leaks out.

    Who has the most to gain here?

  5. jimmy53 says: Nov 13, 2013 7:48 PM

    What a bunch of crap. This report was brought up by TMZ—-enough said.

    HE HAS NOT EVEN BEEN QUESTIONED BY THE POLICE, AND HIS NAME IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE REPORT!!

  6. blacknole08 says: Nov 13, 2013 7:48 PM

    I live in Tallahassee right now, and let me tell you, this is being blown out of proportion. A lot of Noles are mad right now!!

    TPD (Tallahassee Police Department) investigated this last year and closed it in February. And, get this — THEY NEVER EVEN QUESTIONED WINSTON (Sorry for the CAPS just trying to emphasize my point). Plus the woman said the guy was between 5-9 and 5’11. Jameis is 6’4. Sounds like they are trying to tarnish his rep for the heisman race!

  7. blacknole08 says: Nov 13, 2013 7:51 PM

    Also, I read the Full Police Report. They described the perps demeanor as “polite.” Noe tell me this: How do you politely assualts someone with physical force?!?!

    Get that mess out of here!!

  8. canetic says: Nov 13, 2013 7:52 PM

    FSU should forfeit all their games. This is a disgrace to college football.

  9. ndirish10 says: Nov 13, 2013 7:52 PM

    Not only Heisman race, but a huge distraction. This has a smell of a number 3 trying to get into the number 2 spot at all costs. Just saying…

  10. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 13, 2013 7:55 PM

    ndirish10 says: Nov 13, 2013 7:52 PM

    Not only Heisman race, but a huge distraction. This has a smell of a number 3 trying to get into the number 2 spot at all costs. Just saying…
    ————

    Doesn’t it?

  11. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 13, 2013 7:57 PM

    atxcane says: Nov 13, 2013 7:45 PM

    Hmm…Winston moves to first in the Heisman push poll, year-old sexual assault charge leaks out.

    Who has the most to gain here?
    ————–

    Scrap the Heisman, because none of the guys who would otherwise win it would need such a story to ruin Winston’s chances.

    This is about a team trying to get into the national championship game and knows it has no chance barring injury.

    … or planted story designed to distract.

  12. jimmy53 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:01 PM

    The incident report describes the suspect as between 5 foot 9 and 5 foot 11 tall and 240 pounds. FSU athletics media guide lists Winston as 6 foot 4 and 218 pounds.

  13. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 13, 2013 8:05 PM

    Repugnant, Simply Repugnant.

    The accusations against Manziel, The accusations against Boyd, now this. Where do people go to get their reputation back?

    RTR

  14. mrlaloosh says: Nov 13, 2013 8:08 PM

    Urban, is that you? Not funny at all.

  15. blacknole08 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:11 PM

    FSU should forfeit all their games. This is a disgrace to college football.

    ————————————————————-

    This coming from a Cane fan who’s program should be in the death penalty phase.

    Real cute though.

  16. thraiderskin says: Nov 13, 2013 8:16 PM

    I think everyone should be in a “wait and see” mode. I hope this accusation isn’t true, I really want to see this kid continue to grow into a great football player.

  17. detectivejimmymcnulty says: Nov 13, 2013 8:18 PM

    I’m glad I wasn’t the only one thinking “Urban.”

    I’m in college right now and obviously have nothing close to the status of someone like Winston and let me tell ya, getting a girl isn’t hard.

  18. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:28 PM

    After his #2 vote for his team, can you really put it past him? He seems bitter and desperate to get into the game by any means necessary.

  19. halbert53 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:31 PM

    Not a fan of Winston for Heisman (or the other top candidates) but this smells like a smear campaign against him and an attempt to distract FSU. Disgusting.

  20. gquesen says: Nov 13, 2013 8:32 PM

    Wow, all of the sudden the third ranked team in the nation planted this story? Everyone needs to slow the F down. I hope it’s not true. Winston seems like a good guy. This is weird timing though. Especially sincere this happened almost a year ago.

  21. dcroz says: Nov 13, 2013 8:38 PM

    How could anyone confuse someone who is between 5’9″ and 5’11″ and weighing 240 pounds with someone who is 6’4″ and 228 pounds is beyond me. The latter sounds like some who grew up throwing footballs through a tire tied up to a tree branch; the former sounds like someone who’s got a few spare tires around his gut.

  22. gquesen says: Nov 13, 2013 8:38 PM

    Man, talk about jumping to major conclusions. All of the sudden, we’re talking about Urban Meyer somehow planting this story? I think the timing is weird and I am very skeptical of this. But people are jumping to ridiculous conclusions here. Leave Urban Meyer out of this. Winston seems like a good guy, I really hope these accusations are false.

  23. whiskytango333 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:42 PM

    What TMZ doesnt tell you was the tip of this case came from an anonomous source in Columbus, Ohio. Next week, the same source will have something scandalous on AJ McCarron.

  24. thefiesty1 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:43 PM

    It only comes our now with him a leading candidate and FSU heading into the National Championship game…….Humm? Timing is a little lame.

  25. John Taylor says: Nov 13, 2013 8:45 PM

    Given the direction the comments have headed thus far, it’s apropos that we’re closing in on the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination.

    It was Urban… on the grassy ‘Nole…

  26. whiskytango333 says: Nov 13, 2013 8:49 PM

    When Urban Meyer was questioned about whether he had anything to do with plamting this story, he declined comment, citing chest pains and having to do whats best for his family.

  27. canetic says: Nov 13, 2013 8:49 PM

    @blacknole08

    This coming from a Cane fan who’s program should be in the death penalty phase.

    Real cute though.

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    Obviously I was joking. I just think it’s funny how quickly all the Seminole fans line up to defend Winston and scream that it’s a planted story. It’s a fact that a woman has accused him of felony sexual assault. That’s the only fact we know until the police conclude their investigation. FSU clearly isn’t going to discipline him so who cares.

  28. Slim Charles says: Nov 13, 2013 8:50 PM

    Pretty hilarious that the capability to become a Penn State fan is inside every college football fan. Yeah, there’s a secret cabal of Johnny Manziel fans in the Tallahassee PD.

  29. jrs45 says: Nov 13, 2013 9:00 PM

    Ok people please be nice.

  30. carlsbadboltfan says: Nov 13, 2013 9:00 PM

    canetic says: Nov 13, 2013 8:49 PM

    Obviously I was joking. I just think it’s funny how quickly all the Seminole fans line up to defend Winston and scream that it’s a planted story. It’s a fact that a woman has accused him of felony sexual assault. That’s the only fact we know until the police conclude their investigation. FSU clearly isn’t going to discipline him so who cares
    —————————————————————————

    Once again, another UscuM graduate can’t comprehend a simple story.

  31. liverpoolred04 says: Nov 13, 2013 9:03 PM

    3 words…Red Elephant Club.

  32. blacknole08 says: Nov 13, 2013 9:03 PM

    canetic says: Nov 13, 2013 8:49 PM

    Obviously I was joking. I just think it’s funny how quickly all the Seminole fans line up to defend Winston and scream that it’s a planted story. It’s a fact that a woman has accused him of felony sexual assault. That’s the only fact we know until the police conclude their investigation. FSU clearly isn’t going to discipline him so who cares.

    ————————————————–

    No, this is just some woman trying to get her 15 minutes by defaming a popular, young rising star.

    Don’t get me wrong though — sexually assaulting someone, a woman nonetheless, is absolutely wrong. In the same breath, falsely accusing a man of such things — whether it be for profit, for fame, or just cause — is even more wrong. Whether this is true or not (And it’s not), you ruin someones life and reputation. He wasn’t even questioned about the incident! They are trying to tarnish this kid’s reputation.

  33. WingT says: Nov 13, 2013 9:05 PM

    nothing good ever happens in Tallahassee after 4am.

  34. onlyoneleft says: Nov 13, 2013 9:16 PM

    The Tallahassee press has really been on the ball. Nothing ever changes there.

  35. 10of14 says: Nov 13, 2013 9:51 PM

    As soon as Urban admits his “pains” were only inflicted by his wife who “caught him,” then I will let him off the hook as someone capable of “telling a story.” The guy has his own “skeletons” leading to his demise and “heartache” and as such will try anything to cover up. However, ultimately a game must be played and OSU has not beat a top 10 team in 2.5 years, plays a weak B10 schedule this year and can not stay within 2 TD’s of any SEC, ACC or PAC10 Champ. Bring it…….

  36. gborange says: Nov 13, 2013 10:10 PM

    She prob screwed some random guy and everybody called her a whore. There are legitimate rapes that take place, but more often than not it’s a lie because some drunk college girl couldn’t keep her clothes on.

  37. jdillydawg says: Nov 13, 2013 10:13 PM

    Funny how everyone thinks Ohio planted this.

    Fresno St. is feeling pretty smug about now…

  38. redbearwoodall says: Nov 13, 2013 10:21 PM

    Does this remind anyone else of Manti Te’o’s scandal last year? Someone just wants attention.

  39. normtide says: Nov 13, 2013 10:22 PM

    If this came out six months ago, I would be denouncing this kid. But now? If he is guilty, bury him under the jail. However, with most of these cases, I want the facts before I destroy a young man’s reputation and future. Any university caught covering up ant sexual assault deserves the Penn state special. That said, stop with blaming Meyer. That’s just silly. TMZ is the face if evil I’m my book. They sold their souls fort profit long ago, and don’t care who they send to the same flames. The sad part, the fact that TMZ makes money is an awful reflection of our culture.

    This isn’t university spy games. This is the state of American media.

  40. gquesen says: Nov 13, 2013 10:42 PM

    THANK YOU normtide. My god, I can’t believe some people actually think Meyer would do that.

  41. psly2124 says: Nov 13, 2013 10:51 PM

    Who hooks up with 240 pound chicks? How did that chick threw the door? Winston’s a whale hunter. Chick must have been built like Vince wilfork or Terrence Cody.

  42. Deb says: Nov 13, 2013 11:03 PM

    @canetic …

    You’re quick to point out the “fact” that Winston has been accused and to imply FSU is somehow wrong for not disciplining him. The “fact” is that anyone can accuse anyone else of anything. Accusations carry no legal or moral weight, and it would be wrong for FSU to discipline this kid based on an unsubstantiated accusation.

    She made the complaint against some 5’9″ Jameis Winston. It wouldn’t be the first time a guy pretended to be a big-time football player and people bought into the con. But whatever happened in this situation, it doesn’t take a year to investigate a rape allegation against a named suspect. If the TPD had any evidence against Winston, he’d have been arrested months ago.

  43. donovandancy says: Nov 13, 2013 11:11 PM

    1) It lists a half foot difference in height

    2) He has gained almost 20 pounds since last december, so the weight difference is even more than the current height/weight listed.

    3) The repost also says he had “straight medium length hair” which in december he clearly did not.

    4) He was not approached or interviewed regarding the incident by the police.

    5) TPD closed the case in February, as there was no corroborrating evidence.

    6) The case was opened this week as TMZ requested to review the information, which is standard procedure for closed cases with records requests.

    7) So, it has sat inactive for almost a full year, with no contact with the player accused.
    8) The victim also recanted her account of the incident almost immediately.

    How many points of this being an incorrect accusation do you need before you at least back off of winston even being involved in this?

  44. psly2124 says: Nov 13, 2013 11:11 PM

    Read the article everyone the chick did not say Winston was 5’9 240. That was the size of the chick.

  45. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 13, 2013 11:20 PM

    Then there’s this:

    phillip740il said…

    this has OSU written all over it……………….the timing just fits

    Dont forget, Urban Meyer also leaked Cam Newtons academic records to the media when he became the heisman favorite.

    TBGator12

  46. suprmous says: Nov 14, 2013 1:11 AM

    What happened to the old sayin innocent till found guilty? It amazes me how somethin is gospel till found out to be nothin. However, if it proves to be somethin on the other hand I’m with normtide. He should be buried under the jail. Due to the fact that no human bein should be abused whether they be male or female. How many times have any of us seen where one or the other has been out to make a name for themselves and made accusations re another for either popularity or financial gain? It even happens in the Pros so why not have it happen in the College ranks? I mean geesh Louise, if the guy’s got a better than good shot at bein drafted the female can only see dollar signs in front of her eyes; just sayin.

  47. coltzfan166 says: Nov 14, 2013 1:15 AM

    The Heisman gods are trying to make sure Manziel wins again

  48. grudenthediva says: Nov 14, 2013 1:49 AM

    “FSU should forfeit all their games. This is a disgrace to college football.”

    Yeah that’s about the only way you queens are going to beat FSU these days. Does Sedanos know you’re posting on company time?

  49. noplanb1 says: Nov 14, 2013 2:28 AM

    psly2124, no you reread the article. clearly shows person1 as victim. then person 2 suspect min height 5 9 max 5 11
    shoddy reporting by tmz, no suprise there

  50. boomgrounder says: Nov 14, 2013 2:55 AM

    Just let it play out. If he didn’t rape the woman he won’t be charged. But just because she may have underestimated his height by 5 inches isn’t a major point in a sexual assault. She probably wasn’t thinking about his height as she was being raped and some people are just poor with measurements. Obviously his attorney is aware of the case but apparently thought his client was off the hook. But “not so fast my friend”!

  51. longborer69 says: Nov 14, 2013 3:16 AM

    CFT linked to TMZ, and a bunch of people clicked through to their site. So the report accomplished its purpose.

    Would Urban Meyer stir this up? No. Because there is so little credibility to it that it is likely to generate a sympathy backlash. It is going to further hurt any chance he had (not that he had any unless FSU lost anyway). Meyer is a jerk, I believe, but he’s not that stupid.

    Winston is leading the Heisman now, someone who hates him for some reason decided to try to hurt him, and TMZ said, “Who cares if it is credible or not? We don’t do ‘credible.’ Our advertisers don’t care about ‘credible.’ Run the story.”

    Blame TMZ and their advertisers for bringing this out now. Oh, and blame the people who actually read the trash they put out and make it worth while for the advertisers. That’s the real problem. Take away their market and TMZ dies. But an Oprah Winfrey loving bunch of people eat this stuff up.

    Of course, that is just my long and boring opinion.

  52. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 14, 2013 4:20 AM

    The more I think about it, the more I think they are just throwing his name in there to smear, because this all reads like the Greg Dent incident, from the description all the way down to what allegedly took place. Not sure how in the WORLD Winston has anything to do with this unless he was at Dent’s apartment when the alleged action took place.

  53. firehouse70 says: Nov 14, 2013 8:18 AM

    Well Winston., I bet you rather have the “Manziel” disease now…, Don’t believe Johnny hasn’t been accused of sexual assault…

  54. tmac4454 says: Nov 14, 2013 9:24 AM

    Regardless of the accusation against him, I just hope God willing that he does not let this effect the program play on the field. I hope that they stay focus and continue with their game plan. Haterade is what America is built on. This is kind of hard for me to believe, his character just does not show any of this BS. I am praying for you Winston, keep your head up because in life haters will try to put a lot of obstacles in front of you. God Bless you Son….

  55. sillec28 says: Nov 14, 2013 10:03 AM

    Tallahassee PD – sits on the case for a year, only turns it over to the State’s Attorney after several public record requests from the media. Seems pretty clear that the PD was going to bury it. Any school and football program with integrity would suspend Winston until this was cleared up one way or another. Of course FSU and integrity don’t go well together when football players are involved.

  56. Deb says: Nov 14, 2013 11:54 AM

    sillec28 says:

    Any school and football program with integrity would suspend Winston until this was cleared up one way or another.
    ———————————————-
    That is absurd. If you were an innocent man accused of sexual assault by a coworker, should your employer suspend you for a year without pay while the authorities dilly-dallied with their investigation? The TPD had no way of knowing last December that he would become a star quarterback for the Seminoles, so they had no reason to sweep the case under the rug. Innocent until proved guilty means exactly that.

  57. shackdelrio says: Nov 14, 2013 12:15 PM

    “sillec28 says:
    Nov 14, 2013 10:03 AM
    Tallahassee PD – sits on the case for a year, only turns it over to the State’s Attorney after several public record requests from the media. Seems pretty clear that the PD was going to bury it. Any school and football program with integrity would suspend Winston until this was cleared up one way or another. Of course FSU and integrity don’t go well together when football players are involved.”

    Are you Gator fans that desperate?

  58. realfootballfan says: Nov 14, 2013 4:07 PM

    mrlaloosh,

    Sounds like him doesn’t it? Remember the Cam Newton stuff just popped up all of a sudden when Florida was fading out of sight during Auburn’s run.

    I by no way take sexual assault lightly, but this story stinks like some month old rotten fish, and even sounds like his name was attached to it in the first place in hindsight as someone that was in the area. And for those with those “conspiracy” theories, 9 out of 10 of you didn’t know who Winston was 11 months ago when these “allegations involving him” were made, so I doubt anyone would be covering up for him. As far as covering up for anyone, ask Adrian McPherson who was pegged as the savior of the program about 10 years ago how that worked out for him when he did something stupid.

  59. realfootballfan says: Nov 14, 2013 4:11 PM

    WingT,

    I can’t agree with you on that. I know plenty of great things happened for me back in my days there after 4, lol.

  60. realfootballfan says: Nov 14, 2013 4:15 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 ,
    Without even thiking of the Dent situation, it was the conclusion I immediately came to. He was in the area during a potential sexual assault that was investigated. Someone (cough, Urban Meyer) got tipped off that he was involved in the investigation and threw out an anonymous tip to the gossip machine who prints first and checks facts later, TMZ.

  61. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 14, 2013 4:23 PM

    I would not put it past him, after what he pulled (and he was behind it, no doubt) in 2010, realfootballfan.

  62. goodfieldnohit says: Nov 14, 2013 4:32 PM

    Thank god he didn’t sign any autographs, or Mark May and Darren Rovell would be all over him.

  63. tboyd54 says: Nov 14, 2013 5:21 PM

    Boy. I see some real paranoia here. Urban Meyer releasing this? Give me a break. You must be proud to be a member of the Buckeye haters club. You must be related to Clay Travis at Fox Sports.

    Why has this attorney for the player allow this to stay active for this length of time? This should have been pushed and resolved a long time ago. Or the university should have gotten this done and over with. I hope the kid isnt guilty but allowing this to hang around for so long unresolved already sounds like a cover up. Seems unfair for this to come out now. But it should have been handled appropriately a long time ago and put to rest.

  64. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 14, 2013 5:29 PM

    Why do Blowhio State Suckeye fans think that people “hate” on them, or are jealous of them? They are inferior (at least to my team, and never beaten us), but it isn’t far-fetched when Meyer was behind the dirt on Cam Newton just as HE was on his way to the Heisman and National Championship. Paranoia? No. Good sense? Yes.

  65. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 14, 2013 5:32 PM

    And what do you sound like saying “cover up”? But you want to call others paranoid when it is a very real possibility that Meyer has something to do with this, what, with his fool WR making statements, then his false consternation about the WR, and his foolish voting of his team #2 and not Florida State? You really think this is beneath something that Meyer would do? Sounds like you’re deluded about your do-nothing team, more than someone is paranoid.

    They couldn’t cover this up (if it were Winston) if they tried. There are too many other people just looking to find dirt, that they would have long before now. Never MIND the fact that the most he could be is someone who had been at the apartment at some point in time as a “witness”, which is at most his only connection here. Anyone who understands criminal procedure knows that the MOST Winston has in terms of connection to this story, is a possible witness, along with anyone else who was at Dent’s house, because Dent is almost certainly who committed the alleged offense.

  66. tboyd54 says: Nov 14, 2013 5:36 PM

    Paranoia, yes.
    And Cam’s dad admitted asking for money for Cam to play. So lets see here, a Buckeye sells an autograph for a tattoo and gets suspended. Cams father asks for money and Cam gets the Heisman. And you wonder why people think there are Buckeye haters? What color is the sky in your world?
    Mr. Wright, I would say the term morom fits you well. If your team is Bama it is more likely the Bama fans are trying to expose the Fla State team so they wont have to lose to them in the National Championshipo Game. I will say the Bama team may have a chance against the Bucks but the Fla State team will wipe the field with them.

  67. tboyd54 says: Nov 14, 2013 5:41 PM

    Wow Mr Wright.I just read your additional comments. I must apologize to all of the morons for cpomparing them to someone of your caliber. I didn’t mean to insult the morons of the world by including you in their group. Your vitriole for the Bucks bleeds through very clearly.Thanks for making the point stronger.
    Cams Heisman should have been for the best PAID player in college football.

  68. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 14, 2013 5:57 PM

    tboyd you are a FOOL, plain and simple. And Meyer was the one behind all that stuff resurfacing at a curious time, just like this.

  69. realfootballfan says: Nov 14, 2013 7:11 PM

    tboyd54,

    Why is anyone paranoid about Ohio State when FSU has dominated them and currently are ahead of them in line for the national championship game? Just saying, your logic is off.

    People bringing up Meyer is logical because it’s right in his wheelhouse. He leaked the Newton story because as his team was circling the drain that year after the Tebow era and everyone was criticizing him for getting rid of Newton. Conveniently, the Newton laptop story resurfaces and then the stuff leaked by his buddy, Mullin at Mississippi State. Then, he sees domination coming from Saban and Alabama in his near future, suddenly has “heart problems” that somehow cleared up in less than a year, and was out.

    Urban Meyer is a scumbag. However, just because he coaches at your school, you should be objective enough to see that with just the Aaron Hernandez stuff he actually did help cover up when he was at Florida. And btw, I thought that NCAA penalty for that tattoo scandal was garbage, so I can be pretty objective on matters like this.

  70. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 14, 2013 7:14 PM

    Precisel, realfootballfan.

  71. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 14, 2013 8:21 PM

    I have to say looking at this from afar, it seems very weak.

    That said…. they obviously questioned him and must have had some reason for it.

  72. realfootballfan says: Nov 14, 2013 10:35 PM

    8to80texansblog,

    Yea, if a woman says question him or those guys, they get questioned. The fact that he wasn’t arrested immediately like in the Dent case and this just came back up nearly a year later ought to tell you this is going nowhere and the police had no reason to take it any further.

    They collected physical evidence at that time, took photos, and people still don’t even know if he was even the subject of the accusation or just involved in the investigation kind of like those receivers in that Denver Bronco case a couple of years back (considering the physical description) so if they had any reason to take it there, it would have been taken there when Jameis Winston was a nobody and all of this evidence was fresh.

    Unless TPD has mellowed in the 12 years or so since I was in Tallahassee, they wouldn’t have hesitated to bust him if they had cause (see Mcpherson, Adrian for reference if you need a debunker for those silly conspiracy theories).

  73. florida727 says: Nov 15, 2013 7:26 AM

    If I’m an FSU fan, the only thing that worries me is that these charges were filed before he was ‘Jameis Winston’. You’re an easy target when you’re famous. That happens all the time by the quick-buck artists. When you’re investigated before anyone really knows who you are, there might (emphasis on MIGHT) be something to it. For his sake, and that of all ‘Noles fans, I hope there’s nothing to this. The other concern is the statement that reads “physical evidence” was collected. We all know what that means, and if true, again emphasis on IF, it’s pretty indisputable. As usual though, the truth will prevail, or at least you’d hope so.

  74. tboyd54 says: Nov 15, 2013 11:04 AM

    Mr WRIGHT
    I have to chuckle at your response. There was never any type of proof that Urban did anything to Cam. It was reported. Just because it says it on the internet it must be true. Dewey defeats truman. Come on man. Wake up. The problem here is Jameis is apparently represented by an idiot attorney who has allowed this to drag out this long. Now initially Jmaeios didn’t have anything to do with this. Now he has two witnesses that will cooberate his side of the story. If I didn’t have anything to do with it I don’t need witnesses to cooberate my side. I don’t have a side. Then we have him pleading the fifth and refusing to speak to the police. His actions sur do sound suspiscious.
    So, if guilty he should be in trouble. It is really irrelevant who brought this back to light. Just because he is apparently your hero you believe it is okay to bury this and let it go away. If he is guilty of participating in this incident or not it should be resolved. But to stretch out and say Urban Meyer is resopnsible? Give me a break. I’ll bet Urban caused world war two. And the shootings in Columbine. And the Costa ship to sink. Anything else you want to blame him for? Get over yourself. Get on the attorney’s butt for allowing this to continue to drag out. If I have a client that is clearly innocent I make sure this is a done deal a long time ago. I don’t wait on it to just go away. He thought it was closed in Feb. You don’t hire attorneys to just think. You hire them to properly represent and clear up. You don’t plead the fifth if you are innocent. The fifth is to keep you from self incriminating yourself.

  75. tboyd54 says: Nov 15, 2013 11:12 AM

    florida727
    Good point. Lets just hope he is innocnet and his idiot attorney gets this cleared up immediately. Not a Noles fan but would like to see this kids life Not Ruined at an early age.

  76. meekapyt says: Nov 16, 2013 8:50 AM

    Pleading the 5th does not mean a petson is guilty. Its a constitutional right we all have! Having two witness does not equal a guilty person either… You also left out she said the man had straight hair lol White America will stop at nothing to bring a Black man down in America! That chick was drunk as two sailors on a weekend pass in Tia-wanna! Stop holding up for these gold diggers looking to get paid at the expense of messing up a guys life. No means no, but who the heck did she say no too??? You cant just pick out random people and say “yeah that him” then have the description not match! Innocent until proven guilty, not guilty because of public opinion! The police seen the facts back then and did not charge him after seeing what we know now about the case! It made no sense to charge him back then and it still makes no sense now. Someone racist dude is out to bring him down, since its illegal to lunch Black men nowadays… So they now do it by flase charges, the interent and the media destroying your reputation! You still cant stop it, he will still have a great season! So sit back at just be mad!

  77. meekapyt says: Nov 16, 2013 8:55 AM

    Excuses any misspellings! I typed “Person” “Lynch” this iphone autocorrect sucks!

  78. tboyd54 says: Nov 16, 2013 10:42 AM

    meekapyt
    I didn’t say he was guilty. I don’t know too many people that would go in and plead the 5th if setting down with your attorney and talking to the police would clear this up and make it go away. I also don’t need to confirm my story of what happened if I wasn’t I involved as he initially said. The story is changing as the days progress. I do not hope for the kid to be guilty. I hope this goes away for him. But saying he had nothing to do with it and now saying his witnesses will confirm his version of what happened doesn’t sound good for him. Understand the autocorrect crap.

  79. meekapyt says: Nov 17, 2013 8:55 AM

    I have studied law, ur not a Black man in America, so no u wouldn’t just go in and make a statement and leave. Its not about him pleading the 5th, its about him protecting his rights. Don’t let the First 48 fool u! Its not that simple, they will assume he is guilty just off top and lock him up into “they get it figured out” Its changing because they dont know what happened and her drunk self dont know either! They have never questioned him after it happened did they? No. But now they want too lol give me a break! They had her statement, photos and all that, but did not arrest him with all that evidence? Come on… I smell a ser up or just enough crap to make him prove he didn’t do it. Its up to the state to prove it, not the person being accused! Thats to protect the innocence from unfair prosecution! How would u will if I said u rapped me… But they have nothing on u, but have u come in and not be able to answer their questions? To most detectives they could view u of lying or being evasive! Then ur suck trying to disprove what they are saying which could be hard to do. Do a smart person would plead the 5th and say “hey when u get ur facts together, come holler at me, but until then leave me the heck alone!” No one replying was there, but I am not the one judging him like u did I’m I? Cases should be judged in court, not but people not educated in the field of criminal justice, but some “he said she said crap!”

  80. meekapyt says: Nov 17, 2013 9:07 AM

    I have studied law and ur not a Black man in America, so no u wouldn’t just go in and make a statement and leave. Its not about him pleading the 5th, its about him protecting his rights. Don’t let the First 48 fool u! Its not that simple, they will assume he is guilty just off top and lock him up until “they get it figured out” the story is changing because they dont know what happened and her drunk self don’t know either! They never questioned him after it happened did they? No. But now they want too lol give me a break! They had her statement, photos and all that, but did not arrest him with all that evidence? Come on… I smell a set up or just enough crap to make him dig himself in a hole and prove he didn’t do it. It’s up to the state to prove it, not the person being accused! Thats to protect the innocence from unfair prosecution! How would u will if I said u rapped me… But they have nothing on u, but have u come in and not be able to answer their questions? To most detectives they could view u of lying or being evasive! Then ur suck trying to disprove what they are saying which could be hard to do. So a smart person would plead the 5th and say “hey when u get ur facts together, come holler at me, but until then leave me the heck alone!” No one replying was there, but I am not the one judging him like u did I’m I? Cases should be judged in court, not but people not educated in the field of criminal justice, but some “he said she said crap!”

  81. normtide says: Nov 17, 2013 9:30 AM

    This case is getting weird. If it wasn’t Winston that the female is talking about, she should have said something by now. Not like there is any any question what the FSU QB looks like. The next question is, is this for real ours just a money grab. Apologies to my female friends, but I’ve seen this a few too many times. If he did assault her, bury the kid. I guess my question is, did the TPD do their job? Because there are many are calling them out.

    I’m not going to call out this young man or this woman until I get more info.

    Meek- anyone innocent shouldn’t worry. This case is very high profile. It’s a national news story. Do yes, why would Winston avoid an interview. Always side with finding justice over football. I think Winston is innocent, but don’t trash this woman either till you get facts.

  82. meekapyt says: Nov 17, 2013 11:51 AM

    Reblogged this on meekapyt's Blog and commented:
    No one trashed her! Didnt that state u said booze was involued? Doent take a rocket scientist to see if she didnt name him or deacribe him, so has no clue as to who did what? “Too drunk is the culprit!” He owes no explaining to the media or u as far as I’m concered its just stuff America do when spreading lies. I was taught ti pick ur battles and I’m sure he was taught the same thing… Find a life and leave his alone or charge him! Point blank period!

  83. normtide says: Nov 17, 2013 12:44 PM

    Awesome, I was worried you had your priorities messed up. He has been accused if sexual assault, so yes, he might want to explain himself. But I’m guessing you don’t care, just as long as it doesn’t mess up your Saturday.

  84. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 17, 2013 1:27 PM

    Only someone who is bereft of knowledge of how the system works would be pushing Winston to talk to the authorities in ANY circumstance. Why? Just so you can “know more?” Instead of failing to realize that both the police and media will twist, turn and finagle everything you say? And even put words in your mouth? Anyone who knows the law knows you let your attorney do the talking even if you have absolutely nothing to do with the alleged action, as is the case with Winston.

  85. tboyd54 says: Nov 17, 2013 1:59 PM

    ooohh mr wright. bereft of knowledge.
    you talk with your attorney present to clear the mess up. he went your route early on and let his attorney handle it. How’d that work out? Still hanging around almost a year later. just still trying to figure out why the story went from not involved to the two witesses will cooberate my side of the story. if not involved there isnt a my side. there is no story. i guess you would rather see the speculation continue. innocent people have nothing to cooberate with two witnesses.

  86. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 17, 2013 2:08 PM

    Yes bereft, especially you clown, boyd.

  87. normtide says: Nov 17, 2013 2:18 PM

    My father and I talked about this Saturday. If Winston is guilty, your damn right he needs to go to jail. I have little tolerance for sexual crimes. However, if thus lady is making this up, she deserves the same sentence he would have gotten. So yes, I feel justice must be served one way or another. If you really feel he is innocent, you should want the truth to come out. If your only interest is winning football games, you want this to just go away. This young man’s reputation will never be clear unless the story is public. That’s the thing with sexual allegations. That’s why the accuser must be held responsible for accusations. So which is it? A man’s reputation, a man you claim to like, or is football your biggest concern here?

  88. tboyd54 says: Nov 17, 2013 2:21 PM

    wow mr wright. you sound like you have anger issues. you may want to see your local psychiatrist. maybe he can give you some drugs to help. in the meantime, maybe jameis needs to get a real attorney that will do the correct thing and get this issue resolved once and for all instead of pleading the fifth and letting it drag out. pleading the fifth allows you to not self incriminate yourself with what you say. if not guilty, an attorney should be able to allow you to talk and not incriminate yourself. this just gets cloudier all of the time.

    get that help mr wright. maybe cut back on the caffeine. or maybe try better living through psychiatry and drugs.

  89. tboyd54 says: Nov 17, 2013 2:23 PM

    well said norm. get the whole thingout in the open. the soonerthe better.

  90. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 17, 2013 3:07 PM

    Anger issues? You are clearly stupid with everything you say, someone calls you out on it, and I’M the one who needs psych help? LMAO

  91. meekapyt says: Nov 17, 2013 5:10 PM

    Mr Wrong…. Not sure why u think u know it all, but u need to find a hobby instead allowing this case to make u sit here and talk about a case u dont know crap about. I know the law and he dont need to answer to a dang thing, but a grand jury or charges not u! Thats like me accussing Michael Jordan as being my unborn childs father “I can’t produce a damn thing saying he even touched me” but u mean to tell he needs to bring his butt on Maury to prove he is nit the father??? Some stuff u just overlook cause its just dumb. Being accussed abd chargered are two different things. How can u defend a lie? By letting the ones spread it prove it! Get a life and wait to read the court documents abs stop acting like ur Mr. Johnny Cochran cause ur not!

  92. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 17, 2013 5:46 PM

    “Mr. Wrong?”

    How long did it take for you to come up with that? And it’s not “wrong”, it’s you DISAGREE. Big difference.

    And the fact of the matter is, if you truly knew what you were talking about, you would see what is truly going on here.

  93. tboyd54 says: Nov 17, 2013 9:18 PM

    I like the mr wrong tag for you mr wright. It’s so fitting. The problem is you don’t know if you are wrong or right. Because Jamies and his attorney would rather drag this out than get the issue resolved. They just need to step up and end this before it costs the kid his chance at the Heisman. He is damn good. Would be a shame. Much more deserving than a guy like Johnny Football. But if his attorney keeps stonewalling for him there won’t be a chance at the Heismsn. Whether you like it or not the Heisman voters want this cleared up before he gets their vote. Robert Smith sat on ESPN on Saturday and said as much. Yes, he has a vote. So keep playing it your way Mr. W. and watch the kid lose out on the Heisman. Smart legal move.
    Call me out? It’s like I’m battling with a man with half a brain and not the half he uses. Get over yourself brother. You make no sense at all.

  94. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 17, 2013 9:22 PM

    Of course you do, retard. Keep my name out of your mouth and stop commenting where people who have actually studied and practiced law.

  95. tboyd54 says: Nov 17, 2013 9:34 PM

    Wow Mr W. I’ll bet they taught you to use a term meant to degrade the mentally challenged In your law studies. Your behavior just confirms that you have a very weak mind. Retarded? Wow. What other discriminatory or racist names can you spout here? Wanna try using the Lords name in vain next? Show us your trailer park mentality here.’

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