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Manziel edges closer to Winston in Bovada Heisman odds

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The off-field “situation” into which Jameis Winston has found himself thrust has had at least a minimal impact on the way one wagering website views his chances of winning the most prestigious award in college football.

In addition to being the overwhelming favorite of actual Heisman voters, the Florida State was an overwhelming favorite of Bovada.lv a week ago with 1/5 odds.  After the revelation a week ago that a long-dormant complaint of alleged sexual assault against Winston had been forwarded to a state’s attorney and an investigation opened, the redshirt freshman’s Heisman odds dropped slightly to 4/11.

Johnny Manziel, on the other hand, continued his steady climb after a “turbulent” offseason.  Prior to the resolution to his infamous autograph case, Manziel was at 15/1; Bovada currently puts the reigning Heisman winner’s odds at 5/2, up from 4/1 a week ago.

The only other players that appear on Bovada‘s Heisman board are Alabama’s AJ McCarron (13/2) and Baylor’s Bryce Petty (10/1).  Those are shorter odds for both — 7/1 last week for the former, 20/1 for the latter.

And, no, I have no idea why Oregon’s Marcus Mariota, who was considered the Heisman front-runner by this very service just a couple of weeks ago and the prohibitive favorite a month ago, is not listed on their board.

Based solely on stats, Mariota certainly deserves to at least be part of the discussion, gambling and otherwise.

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14 Responses to “Manziel edges closer to Winston in Bovada Heisman odds”
  1. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 19, 2013 5:10 PM

    Mariota still has a shot if FSU loses a game and is definitely in the conversation.

  2. Deb says: Nov 19, 2013 5:29 PM

    Drat! Drat! Drat! Manziel!

  3. thraiderskin says: Nov 19, 2013 5:45 PM

    NOooooo! But seriously, I hope Winston absolutely lights up Florida… I can’t deal with another Manziel-watch.

  4. oldforester says: Nov 19, 2013 6:25 PM

    The award should be given to the player which meets the Heisman’s own criteria for winning. From their website here it is:

    “The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, and hard work. The Heisman Trophy Trust ensures the continuation and integrity of this award.”

    Excellence with INTEGRITY!!! In my opinion that eliminates two of the top four, end of story. Those are the rules, that is the criteria. If integrity is not one of the top two items to be considered then the Heisman Trust needs to reevaluate its selection process and rewrite its own rules. Otherwise the vote is being based on factors that exclude integrity. This is not my interpretation, it is spelled out on their website.

  5. duklover says: Nov 19, 2013 7:34 PM

    Mariota has no chance, players from the Northwest just don’t get the press. too bad, although banged up a bit, he is a real talent, and fun to watch.

  6. gquesen says: Nov 19, 2013 8:32 PM

    Mariota is awesome. When he gets into the NFL, everyone who chooses not to pay attention to him right now will see how great he is. He throws one of the prettiest balls I’ve seen. Perhaps the silver lining regarding the Stanford loss is that Mariota might return to chase the title one last time.

  7. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 19, 2013 9:25 PM

    @oldforester

    It does say integrity in that description, but it says excellence first.

    This is not a character award, if it was Tebow would have won 3 of them. This is first and foremost a football performance award.

    It unfortunately has become the award to the most high profile player on the best team or one of the best teams.

  8. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 19, 2013 9:27 PM

    Oldforester,

    Rumor and innuendo doesn’t make facts.

    In Manziel’s case. Where are the sports memorabilia brokers with the proof they paid Manziel? Answer, no where to be found. Cell phones cut off. Websites gone. Relatives have no idea where they are nor have a new cell phone number.

    Funny thing, the State of Connecticut has a letter of inquiry to the broker who said he paid Johnny Football $70,000. They can’t find him. Seems he needed to file a special events tax form for obtaining autographs while in state. The State of Connecticut says they never had a request for the form nor have they received the special events tax the broker was suppose to pay up front.

    The Jameis Winston is pure unadulterated bovine feces. TMZ was completely irresponsible for reporting conjecture as actual fact without a modicum of actual news investigation. They wanted to go with the story with the idea of being first. Pathetic.

    All the candidates are in their 20′s, they are going to make mistakes.

    Manziel is the best player in college football this year. As much as this hurts to say, his victory over Alabama is of football folklore as Billy Cannon’s Halloween run, USC’s comeback against Notre Dame, FSU’s “wide right”, Doug Flutie’s “Hail Mary”,Nebraska’s failed two point conversion in the national championship game, and the catch in the Miracle on the plains with Auburn.

    Name the signature win that people will remember decades from with any other of the listed Hesiman frontrunners. Petty? Mariota? Winston? Answer, none

    Manziel deserves the Heisman.

    RTR

  9. hardballtalkusername says: Nov 19, 2013 9:31 PM

    amosalanzostagg,

    So you are saying that Manziel deserves the Heisman THIS year for a signature victory he had LAST year? Ok then.

  10. M.D. Katona says: Nov 19, 2013 9:31 PM

    Pretty crazy that Manziel has the crazy offseason and now Winston is dealing with issues too

    Wrote about Johnny’s issues in my latest blog post, check it out!!

    http://mdkatona.wordpress.com/2013/11/19/johnny-football-vs-the-nfl-ncaa-and-the-world/

  11. gborange says: Nov 19, 2013 9:58 PM

    Mariota blew it when it mattered. I don’t care what kind of stats he has. He built those stats throwing bombs against FCS 2nd teams in the 4th quarter of blowouts.

  12. hardballtalkusername says: Nov 19, 2013 10:27 PM

    Mariota, like Winston, does not play in at least half of their 4th quarters. A&M’s defense is so terrible that they don’t have the luxury of sitting Manziel, which is partially to explain for his lead in passing yards. All three are great players and I could see them all deserving of the award.

  13. gquesen says: Nov 19, 2013 11:10 PM

    gborange, do you even watch Oregon play? When they play FCS teams he isn’t even playing in the third quarter. I can’t believe people aren’t impressed by the fact that Mariota hasn’t thrown an INT since they played Stanford LAST YEAR! Yeah, they lost again to Stanford. But he still threw two TDs and on a bum knee. Again, because he plays in the NW people just assume he’s not great. It’s sad really. If he played for Alabama (who by the way recruited the hell out of him) he’d be a legend.

  14. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 20, 2013 10:19 AM

    @gquesen Mariota is a great QB in his offense and is obviously extremely efficient. Oregon is heavily run based team so he benefits heavily in the passing game from teams trying to load the box as well as the fact that teams must account for him in the run game too . But against a very stout and physical defense that can shut down their run game like Stanford, we have seen that Mariota is able to be neutralized.

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