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Three ex-Tar Heels permanently disassociated by UNC

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A trio of former football stars will no longer, in any way, shape or form, be permitted to associate with any facet of the North Carolina football program, documents released by the university revealed Tuesday.

In letters to Marvin Austin, Greg Little and Robert Quinn dated Nov. 15 and signed by athletic director Bubba Cunningham, the current NFL players were informed that they have been “permanently disassociated” from the university.  The permanent disassociation, The Associated Press writes, means that all three players are barred “from the Kenan Football Center or other campus athletic facilities, and prohibit them from providing recruiting or financial assistance for athletics.”

“The integrity of The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill’s intercollegiate athletics program has been damaged through your actions,” Cunningham said in the letter. “We will take every step necessary to protect our intercollegiate athletics program from future NCAA rules violations.”

All three missed their final collegiate season in 2010, either because of dismissal (Austin) or being declared permanently ineligible (Little, Quinn),  for accepting impermissible benefits from an agent and/or runners for an agent.  Little (pictured) acknowledged that he had received more than $20,000 from an agent during his time in Chapel Hill, including a “stipend” of $2,200 a month at one point.

Five individuals, including Georgia-based agent  Terry Watson and former UNC tutor Jennifer Wiley Thompson, have been indicted in connection to the illicit benefits/academic scandal that landed the football program NCAA sanctions.

All five of the indicted ones were sent permanent disassociation letters as well.

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22 Responses to “Three ex-Tar Heels permanently disassociated by UNC”
  1. floridacock says: Nov 20, 2013 9:20 AM

    Amazing how UNC has / had so much talent, even paid them, and STILL was and is not worth a crap.

  2. thegamecocker says: Nov 20, 2013 9:24 AM

    This is a good move by North Carolina to restore credibility to their athletic program. Another positive action would be for Roy Williams to release PJ Hairston, another THUG who could care less about his character and the negative impact it has on UNC. You can’t TEACH STUPID!!!

  3. rippedoffhead says: Nov 20, 2013 9:26 AM

    No way thats Greg Little pictured right? Gotta be Austin… just an observation, not tryin to be “im smarter than you” or what not

  4. John Taylor says: Nov 20, 2013 9:30 AM

    Whoops. Clicked on the wrong photo in our database. It’s been corrected. Thanks for the heads up.

  5. minibull says: Nov 20, 2013 9:44 AM

    So how is what UNC allowed to happen for years not the same as what Reggie Bush did at USC?

    The only difference I see right now is that USC didn’t create an imaginary online class to keep their players eligible like UNC did…

  6. dhardy8207 says: Nov 20, 2013 9:59 AM

    Wow…Good move by UNC to move beyond the sanctions and prevent these three from having contact with current players…

  7. 11inthebox says: Nov 20, 2013 10:21 AM

    Since Reggie Bush has been tossed into the discussion….

    Tired of the pretense that defines college sports. Football is all about getting the best talent. If you don’t, then you lose and the coach gets fired. You do everything you can to win because that’s all that really matters. Not graduation rates, not school spirit, not character.

    And spare me “they get an education” crap.

    Sure, twenty, thirty years ago, a free education and a chance to get a degree were a fair trade off for one’s athletic services. But not today. There are millions of people out of work today, many of whom are highly educated with degrees from reputable schools.

    Let’s be honest. An “education” isn’t the path to opportunity. Not for athletes or for anyone else.

  8. rolltide510 says: Nov 20, 2013 10:41 AM

    No, I’m not going to spare you the “they get an education” “crap”.

    Four years of college costs a lot of money. I’m still going to be paying for mine well into my 40′s. It also provides tremendous opportunities.

    For some reason we’re supposed to discount all of this because some people with degrees are out of work?

    I think there’s an occupy wall street forum your comment would have been better served on.

  9. Mark says: Nov 20, 2013 11:20 AM

    I think most of you miss the point. I’m going to assume that it is because you all, like most people, even those who consider themselves armchair football experts, really have no idea what it is like to try to be a true student-athlete and play D1 college football.

    Every Samari Rolle proves the exception. It is possible to be a D1 football player AND take complete advantage of the college education? Yes. It is extremely difficult. It takes a level of maturity most kids don’t have.

    I really don’t need to hear about your cousin who plays baseball at Pig Knuckle State who gets good grades. The time expectations from both the classroom and the field are not the same, sorry.

    So, no, your “free education” stuff is really nonsense.

    Further, it is absolutely insane for any rational person not to consider these athletes akin to employees of their universities. The NCAA has you all gassed, and you think their definition of what a student-athlete is is the only one.

    And what has an education gotten most of you? Most of you don’t even realize that UNC didn’t pay those guys, they received money from agents that wanted to sign them.

  10. thegamecocker says: Nov 20, 2013 11:39 AM

    @Mark

    I respect your opinion but the rules are the rules for EVER STUDENT/ATHLETE. These young men crossed the line and they are responsible for their actions. No exceptions. It is a PRIVLEDGE IMO to be a scholar/athlete.

  11. jdillydawg says: Nov 20, 2013 11:41 AM

    I’m not a big fan of education anymore, either. Sure, I get that your chances of success with a college degree are far better than without one, but there is also a good chance you’ll be mired in debt for 20 years while you pay it off.

    That said, I’d be ok if Football (or any sport, for that matter) were actually a major. That the courses players had to take dealt with how they managed their careers in the future. i.e. money management, agent management, press relations, sports managment, health, etc.

    Bottom line, just like regular education, there are people that take what they’ve learned (in the class or on the field) and do very well with it for their careers. It seems to me we’re asking these guys to come play football and then force them to take classes that aren’t necessarily relevant to how they will live their lives.

    Given that the NCAA profited from star players in many ways over the years, to say “giving them an education” is a fair trade is just wrong. Giving them the opportunity to play on a major level is the true value for them. Colleges need to teach players how to leverage that to succeed in life.

  12. Mark says: Nov 20, 2013 11:58 AM

    Privilege? You work hard for years, many of them basically as a child, hone skills enough to be noticed by a college, and if you are “lucky” for four years several institutions and individuals other than yourself profit from all your risk and hard work? A scholarship should simply be a starting point.

    At the very least, these kids should be getting a stipend. I’d bet money that if Austin was getting a stipend he wouldn’t have bothered with the agent. He’d have been posting pictures of himself on twitter at a club with some co-eds.

    No one is arguing that rules shouldn’t be followed, well at least I am not. If you’ve agreed (by signing for the scholarship) that you will obey the NCAA’s dictates then that’s what you should do.

  13. onlyoneleft says: Nov 20, 2013 12:13 PM

    Just wondering but did Carolina disassociate themselves from Lawrence Taylor?

  14. labfan30 says: Nov 20, 2013 12:43 PM

    I guess I just think it’s sad from all parties. The players should apologize, the university should realize they were 20 year olds who “gasp” screwed up and made wrong decisions. The university had their share of problems that led to this as well. Do they really think that wiping out 3 guys from going to the facility means they are now ok?

    They still have kids there who have been horrible, but because those kids give them a chance to win, they aren’t being kicked out of school. They are awaiting an NCAA ruling to let them play or not.

    I’m not absolving the three players here, but until the university actually admits some culpability and takes some responsibility, this rings very hollow to me.

  15. thraiderskin says: Nov 20, 2013 12:51 PM

    Since the NCAA is the governing body for student-athletes, yes their definition of that word is the ONLY definition. Apart from the education, there is many intangible benefits associated with big time programs. Benefits non student-athletes will never receive. If you treat the athletes as employees truly think/ understand the can of worms you are opening…

  16. nicksabansanahole says: Nov 20, 2013 1:01 PM

    What a joke!! UNC is garbage and their holier than thou fans are worse. The reason they get such a break is because Swofford(the ACC commish) is a UNC graduate. The things that are published locally that do not receive national attention would have any other program disbanded by now. Despite that though the fans still hold their heads high especially when most of them got their degree and fan paraphernalia from Wal-Mart.

  17. corvusrex96 says: Nov 20, 2013 1:30 PM

    So they got some money from an agent BFD , meanwhile the coach and school are raking in millions. Hypocrites

  18. thegamecocker says: Nov 20, 2013 2:04 PM

    @onlyoneleft

    What a great point you have made! Lawrence Taylor is a low-life piece of garbage and rapist! OMG, UNC should want NOTHING to do with this THUG! As a NY Giant fan, I loathe this miscreant! He thinks he is above the law and untouchable! He is nothing but a narcissistic punk.

  19. thegamecocker says: Nov 20, 2013 2:30 PM

    @Mark

    OK, I see your point and I too am in favor of a stipend for student/athletes. I’m also in favor of EVERYONE in the US having healthcare. Now, the problem is HOW does one institute such policy without it impacting everyone else i.e. Title IX and non-income generating sports? Just like the Obamacare MESS, how does the country implement such a concept without it COSTING AN ARM AND A LEG for those who already have it? It’s a cunnumdrum (too busy to look up spelling). It would be nice to do, but just impractical.

  20. Mark says: Nov 20, 2013 2:46 PM

    theraiderskin:

    Really? What benefits do “revenue” sport athletes get from the university that others don’t besides the scholarship? A nice sweatshirt to wear to class?

    Someone has compared an academic scholarship to an athletic scholarship. Does having an academic scholarship *require* that such student perform other duties for however long a school official decides they must? Do students on an academic scholarship have their personal time restricted in the same manner as those on an athletic scholarship under the NCAA?

    The O’Bannon case speaks to the matter of whether or not a revenue sport athlete is a laborer or an “amateur.” Read up on it before you say one way or the other. Read Taylor Branch’s article on it from The Atlantic.

  21. jdillydawg says: Nov 21, 2013 1:05 AM

    @gamecocker “Now, the problem is HOW does one institute such policy without it impacting everyone else i.e. Title IX and non-income generating sports?”

    Answer: Boosters. Hey, it’s not even like they have to create the system, it’s already there and working!

  22. thegamecocker says: Nov 21, 2013 9:15 AM

    @jillydawg

    OK, that makes sense. Something how like “legalized betting” is done in some states. The state has control over that and polices it. The school’s would have similar rules and regulations and the NCAA can conduct investigations. I’m not being sarcastic here….I honestly feel you have a legitimate strategy to achieve it.

    There are a number of obstacles that I’m sure other posters will identify: the first being “you want the NCAA to and schools to police the disbursement of money….”. It will happen though and I think Boosters may be a source along with other streams of revenue colleges and universities have.

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