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Report: Jameis Winston could avoid suspension if charged with felony

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According to the Orlando Sentinel, there’s a chance Florida State may not suspend quarterback Jameis Winston if he’s charged with a felony stemming from an ongoing sexual assault inquiry.

FSU policy is to suspend any player charged with a felony, as was the case with wide receiver Greg Dent this summer. But the Sentinel reported language in FSU athletics’ code of conduct that allows for a player to avoid automatic suspension if “extraordinary circumstances” are present.

It’s a vague, open-ended clause that does give the FSU athletic department some leeway in these situations.

Winston has yet to be charged with a crime, as the case remains under review with the state attorney office. Earlier today, Winston’s attorney decried the leaked DNA report that came out Wednesday. The alleged victim is scheduled to meet with investigators today, according to ESPN.com.

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52 Responses to “Report: Jameis Winston could avoid suspension if charged with felony”
  1. canetic says: Nov 21, 2013 3:58 PM

    There is no way FSU lets him play if he’s charged with a felony. Not a chance.

  2. jdillydawg says: Nov 21, 2013 4:08 PM

    Well, this poses a bit of a PR problem for FSU. Would they claim the case and how it was handled was the “extraordinary circumstance,” or would they say that having an exceptional year and a Heisman candidate was the “extraordinary circumstance?”

    Maybe a better question is which one would the public believe and how would they feel about it? Because in the end, that’s all that really matters.

    Either way, this whole thing is sad. I hate to see anyone go down like this if it happens.

  3. gatorfan1 says: Nov 21, 2013 4:19 PM

    Well someone leaked this possibility. I wonder if this is an attempt by FSU to gauge the response ahead of time.

    That in itself may say something from FSU’s perspective about what they believe will be the outcome today.

    IF he is charged, and that is a big if, I just can’t imagine any FSU fan or alumni supporting that.

    Canetic is absolutely right, no way he plays!

  4. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 21, 2013 4:21 PM

    The extraordinary circumstances at that point would be that FSU is allowing someone charged with rape to play football for them.

    Won’t happen. I don’t care how important the game is. There are some things bigger football.

  5. dietrich43 says: Nov 21, 2013 4:23 PM

    Does extraordinary include being the Heisman front runner and competing for a title? Reminds me of Lawrence Phillips situation, and I bet this gets handled just as badly.

    If Winston was the third string soccer goalie, I am sure FSU would have no problem with suspending him.

  6. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 21, 2013 4:30 PM

    Their policy is zero tolerance with felony charges. No way they let him play if he’s charged.

    However, the DA doesn’t have anything to charge him with, so that’s moot, unless she produces definitive proof to back her rape claim, and not that they were involved regularly and she just turned out to be bitter once she found out she wasn’t his main chick.

  7. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 21, 2013 4:30 PM

    (Once his actual girlfriend came to town).

  8. jdillydawg says: Nov 21, 2013 4:34 PM

    This headline makes it sound like getting charged with a felony would be a good thing.

  9. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 21, 2013 4:38 PM

    To be honest, I don’t think he did it. But why not just come and out say something. It’s already public and you’re getting killed in the court of public opinion. Your silence is allowing people to fill in their own facts. And you’re 3 weeks from the Heisman Ceremony.

  10. planck16 says: Nov 21, 2013 4:38 PM

    Very fine print, got to squint to see it!

  11. drummerhoff says: Nov 21, 2013 4:43 PM

    Lennay Kekua, Jerry Sandusky and Jameis Winston walk into a bar …

  12. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 21, 2013 4:44 PM

    8to80texansblog says: Nov 21, 2013 4:38 PM

    To be honest, I don’t think he did it. But why not just come and out say something. It’s already public and you’re getting killed in the court of public opinion. Your silence is allowing people to fill in their own facts. And you’re 3 weeks from the Heisman Ceremony.
    —————–

    Not even trying to be funny, but are you naive?

    Do you see how many stories there have been without him saying a word? Regardless of what he says, the media will twist it and despite that, we would be no closer to resolving the truth than if he remained silent, which anyone with any wisdom of the system should do. The only people who want him to speak are dying to know it all when they still won’t know the half.

  13. gatorfan1 says: Nov 21, 2013 4:54 PM

    Mr. Wright 212:

    I do have 1 question for and would like to hear your theory.

    If they had been having a relationship or had a relationship that night, why did she not know who it was?

    It seems to me if she were bitter, she would have identified him the moment the rape kit was done. To me the previous relationship angle does not make sense.

  14. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 21, 2013 5:09 PM

    I honestly think, based upon the research I’ve done and what I’ve read, that they knew each other, there is texting history between them, witnesses all say that it was consensual.

    As far as her not knowing who it was, I never bought that. It just further fuels the belief that her whole angle is a spiteful one. That description was intentionally wrong, especially when it comes to light that they actually knew each other. I’m just not buying her story. But we will find out what the DA got from her shortly, since he spoke to her today.

  15. hopalongcrc1 says: Nov 21, 2013 5:09 PM

    Steve   Miss talking to you.   Petition ot CA Supreme Court is due this Monday.   What is happening with you?   Jack had an interesting issue (I will forward you the email) regarding how to treat a rollover IRA for a decedent that dies during the 60 day rollover period.  Does HDVest have a policy in the is regard?  Can the beneficiary redeposit the funds into HDVest (because it is legally impossible to open a new account for a decedent to close out the rollover at a new institution) or must a private letter ruling be obtained to allow return of the intended rollover into to the decedent’s account?   When looks at FSU continuing to compete with a Heisman candidate that has his DNA inside the underwear of an alleged victim, my CBA matter appears immensely less egregious.

    Thank you,

    Carl

    >________________________________ >From: CollegeFootballTalk >To: carlrcassidy@att.net >Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:56 PM >Subject: [New post] Report: Jameis Winston could avoid suspension if charged with felony > >JJ Stankevitz posted: “According to the Orlando Sentinel, there’s a chance Florida State may not suspend quarterback Jameis Winston if he’s charged with a felony stemming from an ongoing sexual assault inquiry. FSU policy is to suspend any player charged with a felony, as wa” >

  16. detectivejimmymcnulty says: Nov 21, 2013 5:10 PM

    If FSU sits him IF he’s charged I will gain so much respect for that university. Not only that, but the NCAA should think about a rule along the same lines. The problem would be false claims are made and a kid could lose an entire season for something he didn’t do.

  17. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 21, 2013 5:14 PM

    @gatorfan1

    The rumor is they had consensual sex at her apartment and afterwards she learned of his longtime GF. She then got upset cried rape and called the police. At some point she changed her mind but calling the police and filing a false accusation is a crime so she made up the 5’10” thing, but when pressed further she admitted it was Winston and then decided not to pursue charges.

    Again that is just a rumor but fills a lot of holes.

    @mr wright

    “Do you see how many stories there have been without him saying a word?”

    Exactly!!! And since his side of the story has been left blank, the court of public opinion is just making it up to suit their own biases.

    This situation is a little different than if you or I were in this situation. Winston is trying to win a National Championship and a Heisman. Those are things that are decided by essentially public opinion. Especially the Heisman. If he truly is innocent, he can’t afford to let voters “fill in the blank” of his story. He has to get it out there as soon as possible.

    Unless…. he’s afraid that anything he might say could later be used against him, in which case he’s probably guilty of least something….

  18. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 21, 2013 5:15 PM

    @hopalongcrc1

    wtf?

  19. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 21, 2013 5:19 PM

    detectivejimmymcnulty says: Nov 21, 2013 5:10 PM

    If FSU sits him IF he’s charged I will gain so much respect for that university. Not only that, but the NCAA should think about a rule along the same lines. The problem would be false claims are made and a kid could lose an entire season for something he didn’t do.
    ————–

    The university has a zero tolerance policy. This is no longer Free Shoes and Dillard’s. If you commit a felony, you sit. Immediately. And Jimbo runs a tight ship. So again, anyone who thinks there is a cover-up is out of their minds.

    But I agree with you, if he is charged, he WILL sit. There isn’t an “if” involved on that end.

    The thing is, he won’t be, because the truth will come out that she has been lying.

  20. realfootballfan says: Nov 21, 2013 5:28 PM

    8to80texansblog,

    People will have their own opinion regardless. No charges will be brought because the woman has repeatedly not cooperated with investigators after withdrawing the initial complaint. Speaking will not change anyone’s opinion. People who have their minds made up won’t change them. I wouldn’t say anything about it either.

    Also, for people thinking he wouldn’t be suspended if charged are kind of crazy. That zero tolerance stance has been in effect for awhile now. It’s why Randy Moss never played a down at FSU.

  21. thraiderskin says: Nov 21, 2013 5:35 PM

    Ummm… if FSU doesn’t suspend him, upon being charged with a felony, then the NCAA had better begin an investigation and a suspension. I highly doubt a university, of Florida States calibre, wouldn’t suspend him.

  22. realfootballfan says: Nov 21, 2013 5:36 PM

    gatorfan1,

    Let me fill tis one in from what I’ve been told. Apparently, she made the complaint, withdrew it, but then went to the hospital and claimed it was an unknown person. This is why a month went by before she identified him. Afterward, the police could not proceed because she refused to cooperate, whether that was because of the cop angle or because she had a change of heart is up in the air; however, it is notable that she still is not cooperating.

    From what I’ve been told, someone close to her is pushing the story whether they think she was wronged and want justice for her when she won’t seek it or are angling for a civil suit of the city of Tallahassee in the end also remains to be seen as everyone I’ve talked to )and it’s been a few people) say the criminal charges aren’t coming. Also, there is apparently compelling evidence that Winston and this woman continued to be in each other’s company after the December 2012 incident. Just passing along what I know if anyone is interested.

  23. mogogo1 says: Nov 21, 2013 5:41 PM

    Unless this clears up in his favor immediately, the Heisman is already gone.

    The bigger picture is whether he may end up in prison. I’m still trying to wrap my head around that they had DNA evidence collected a year ago and only now are they getting around to seriously checking into a sex assault. If there’s real evidence a crime occurred, somebody should lose their job over how this has been handled. And if there is no evidence and they’ve allowed an innocent guy to be vilified like this, then somebody should lose their job for that, too.

  24. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 21, 2013 5:49 PM

    People don’t want to hear facts, realfootballfan. Those who want to see him charged and convicted have their minds made up, even the blind supporters of Winston won’t hear facts if (hypothetically, since we know this isn’t the case) something comes out that there was indeed rape and Winston is guilty as sin.

    Seems like the people commenting the most have an angle to work, while alleging that FSU fans are partial, which I am not seeing ANYWHERE.

  25. gg206 says: Nov 21, 2013 6:00 PM

    Always 2 sides to every story.. I hope the truth comes out soon an whomever is guilty needs to be punished.. But if I had a gun to my head to determine innocence I might just pick Winston.. Too many things don’t add up.. With No help from TPD and the sensationalists in the media and the fans of other teams looking for a Pound of flesh

  26. normtide says: Nov 21, 2013 6:05 PM

    IF, capitol IF, he is charged, he won’t play. You can’t send that message that football is more important then sexual assault.

    At this point, I doubt he is charged.

  27. Deb says: Nov 21, 2013 6:15 PM

    mogogo1 says:
    I’m still trying to wrap my head around that they had DNA evidence collected a year ago and only now are they getting around to seriously checking into a sex assault.

    ————————————————–
    DNA evidence of an encounter is not evidence of sexual assault. From what’s being posted here, she made a complaint, then withdrew it and refused to cooperate. Without her cooperation and/or independent evidence to corroborate the story of a sexual assault, his DNA proves only that they had a sexual encounter.

    Frankly, I’m trying to wrap my head around why this case has been re-opened almost a year after the accuser withdrew her complaint and said she didn’t want to pursue it. She’s still refusing to cooperate, so she didn’t request that it be re-opened. And given the nature of the case, I doubt seriously that new evidence has been found.

    Why has this suddenly become such a hot potato?

  28. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 21, 2013 6:23 PM

    Deb says: Nov 21, 2013 6:15 PM

    mogogo1 says:
    I’m still trying to wrap my head around that they had DNA evidence collected a year ago and only now are they getting around to seriously checking into a sex assault.

    ————————————————–
    DNA evidence of an encounter is not evidence of sexual assault. From what’s being posted here, she made a complaint, then withdrew it and refused to cooperate. Without her cooperation and/or independent evidence to corroborate the story of a sexual assault, his DNA proves only that they had a sexual encounter.

    Frankly, I’m trying to wrap my head around why this case has been re-opened almost a year after the accuser withdrew her complaint and said she didn’t want to pursue it. She’s still refusing to cooperate, so she didn’t request that it be re-opened. And given the nature of the case, I doubt seriously that new evidence has been found.

    Why has this suddenly become such a hot potato?
    ———————-

    You know why, Deb.

    And for those of us with functioning brains, the more that comes out, along with the chronology of everything, the more it looks fishy. Now who actually pushed for this to be re-investigated and tipped off the authorities to do so? We may never know. But there is too much BS here to believe that anything other than what Winston and his counsel have said took place is indeed what actually took place.

  29. Walk says: Nov 21, 2013 6:26 PM

    I read one story that said she withdrew her complaint after the detective told her her life would be miserable if she went through with the complaint. She then withdrew from school and for a time moved out of state. The story made it sound as if she was scared away and then decided to proceed with her complaint. Hopefully the truth will come out sooner rather than later and all involved can get on with their lives.

  30. blacknole08 says: Nov 21, 2013 6:32 PM

    I dont understand why Mr. Wright is getting so many downvotes. He is spot on with his analysis.

  31. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 21, 2013 6:41 PM

    Because they don’t want to hear the truth. Those who have their minds made up either way are going to hear/read the actual facts and continue rambling as they were all along when there weren’t any facts public, blacknole08. It’s where we are nowadays. Everyone has a “voice” on social media. Some think they can say whatever they want under the cloak of relative anonymity. As such, you have a lot of foolishness flooding message boards and comments sections everywhere you turn. The figments of peoples’ imaginations on steroids.

  32. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 21, 2013 6:45 PM

    Walk says: Nov 21, 2013 6:26 PM

    I read one story that said she withdrew her complaint after the detective told her her life would be miserable if she went through with the complaint. She then withdrew from school and for a time moved out of state. The story made it sound as if she was scared away and then decided to proceed with her complaint. Hopefully the truth will come out sooner rather than later and all involved can get on with their lives.
    ——————-

    Where did you read this? LMAO

    She withdrew the complaint MONTHS ago, not due to this police officer (not a detective) warning her (properly, I might add).

    The story didn’t make it seem like she was scared away, that’s just how you perceive it. And even though it is highly erroneous for you to do so, you are entitled to your opinion.

  33. jdillydawg says: Nov 21, 2013 6:53 PM

    From reading these posts, here’s what I’ve learned. These are the facts compiled into one post for your reading pleasure:

    1) They had consensual sex.
    2) They didn’t have consensual sex.
    3) The girl filed a complaint.
    4) She lied when she filed the complaint.
    5) She told the truth when she filed the complaint.
    6) She was mad Winston had a girlfriend.
    7) She didn’t know who Winston was. (Did anybody a year ago? But I digress)
    8) She rescinded her complaint out of fear.
    9) She rescinded her complaint because it was all a lie.
    10) Urban Meyer planted the story.
    11) We’ll never know who planted this story.
    12) Winston is guilty.
    13) Winston is innocent.
    14) FSU will not let him play. No matter what.
    15) FSU will let him play. Just depends…

    So, in a nutshell, I think we can safely say we have all the answers now.

  34. imaduffer says: Nov 21, 2013 7:10 PM

    Mr. Wright is right. Isn’t that right Mr. Wright?

  35. jdillydawg says: Nov 21, 2013 7:19 PM

    So Wright, it’s wrong.

  36. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Nov 21, 2013 7:44 PM

    I just wish the whole thing would get resolved.
    Too much speculation. Seems like everyone in Tally has a ‘source’ close to the situation.

    I think the consensual sex/jilted lover explanation is plausible. I am curious tho, exactly what did the police photograph the night of the report? I am concerned with what needed to be documented. Also not sure why the family attorney would come out with that grand statement the other day if the girl was not serious about her claims.

    I want to give Jameis the benefit of the doubt here and let the situation run its course. We’ll all know in due time.

  37. oldforester says: Nov 21, 2013 7:52 PM

    Two facts are certain by admission of his attorney, and twitter post of his long term girl friend. He had sex (which dna evidence apparently proves) with the woman making the allegation on or about (December 6th). His long term girl friend was flying in to see him for the weekend the next day on December 7 -9th. When she left on the 9th she tweeted that she had a great weekend.
    You can put lipstick on a pig, but you are still looking at a situation that anyway you dress it speaks to character, morals, and treating people with respect. Do you think his long term girlfriend knew what he was doing before she flew in to see him? Am having a hard time understanding how he could treat this girl, who could be your sister, or daughter that way. Maybe there is an explanation, or that is just the way some entitled players roll. Does not mean I have to like what it represents!

  38. vincentbojackson says: Nov 21, 2013 8:36 PM

    There’s an “extraordinary circumstance” that Florida State can rake in a lot of dough if they let him continue to play.

  39. mrba4775 says: Nov 21, 2013 8:42 PM

    Winston can say
    GOOD-BYE 2 the Heisman Trophy, when will black football players learn, if your girlfriend is black, and you’re tapping a white girl in between, the white girl is going to get angry, cry rape, then your black butt is going to jail. Tiger Wood still havent learn, this is still the USA.

  40. realfootballfan says: Nov 21, 2013 8:54 PM

    oldforester,

    Unfortunately, that’s just the way of the world, athletes included. Otherwise, America wouldn’t have a 70% divorce rate. Joe Theisman, Joe Montana, and John Elway all say hi if you need precedence on this. Sorry to kill your ideal view of the world, lol. Men and women cheat, 19 year olds who aren’t married definitely cheat, and if you’re not teaching your daughters and your sisters aren’t aware of this, not to mention your sons or brothers aren’t aware of this, you’re doing them a disservice to be so naive. I’ve probably scrutinized women more than anyone you could imagine and if I put you in a room with all of my past girlfriends, I would bet you couldn’t pick the two out of all of them who did cheat on me.

  41. jdillydawg says: Nov 21, 2013 9:28 PM

    @realfootballfan “I would bet you couldn’t pick the two out of all of them who did cheat on me.”

    Well, it wouldn’t be THAT hard. I mean, wouldn’t they be the two ladies talking to all the other guys in the room and not to you? ;)

  42. floridascuba1 says: Nov 21, 2013 9:32 PM

    I find it odd that her attorney is from the Tampa area. Which just happens to be the news agency that first broke the story. Although TMZ is garnishing the most blame for the leak.

  43. realfootballfan says: Nov 21, 2013 10:43 PM

    kappy32,

    Actually, although deeming both of them not long-term material for obvious reasons, I have no problems with either and have remained on good terms with both. Although both incidents were disturbing to me, I wasn’t married to either, which might have been more serious depending on what you believe in, but for me that was enough of a line crossing for me to find another woman not into such.

    Just pointing out that alot of people have their own line in the sand, and while it’s nothing I would put up with, I know one of the girls went on to marry a man who had no problems with her indiscretions because he does the same thing, too. Also, you couldn’t judge the book by the cover because both of them would appear to be the sweetest, nicest most delicate women in the world if you were in the room with either of them, but they do have that character flaw (for me anyway) that wouldn’t be immediately noticeable to the naked eye.

  44. realfootballfan says: Nov 21, 2013 10:55 PM

    floridascuba1,
    There’s a couple of things being misreported out there. She doesn’t ahve a a lawyer, neither does Winston. Jansen is counsel for the FSU athletic program, not someone he or his parents personally hired. The attorney speaking through the media for the woman is family affiliated, but not someone she hired. Also, from what I was told again tonight, the girl basically continues to refuse to cooperate but Meggs will probably milk this thing.

    From what I can gather, and this part is speculation, there seems to be some overbearing parents or someone in her family who have tried to ignite this thing from afar after her initial withdrawn complaint and brought it back up as Winston’s star grew but may not have the full story as most parents from afar don’t have about the relationship between these two or the nature of the incident.

    All the while, the girl has been consistently not cooperating with any investigation since the immediate withdrawal of the complaint. Also, There has apparently been ongoing friendly contact between the two since the incident that would compel you to ask, what are we really talking about here?

  45. Walk says: Nov 21, 2013 11:50 PM

    @mrwright That story i mentioned is
    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/20/family-statement-alleged-victim-warned-about-pursing-case-against-jameis-winston/

  46. v2the4 says: Nov 22, 2013 7:54 AM

    mrba4775 says: Nov 21, 2013 8:42 PM said:

    Winston can say GOOD-BYE 2 the Heisman Trophy, when will black football players learn, if your girlfriend is black, and you’re tapping a white girl in between, the white girl is going to get angry, cry rape, then your black butt is going to jail. Tiger Wood still havent learn, this is still the USA.
    ——————————————————
    its no secret that scholarship athletes, the big men on campus, especially the brothers, get plenty of leg from white girls…it happens all over the country…at Florida St….at Alabama…at Wyoming or North Dakota St..

    btw Winstons girlfriend is black , from Hoover Alabama, who is on basketball scholarship at Rice.

  47. dkhhuey says: Nov 22, 2013 11:44 AM

    Not a good situation at all! If it turns out that he is charged with a felony, FSU needs to do the right thing! If it turns out it was consensual, then she needs to be punished harshly! If it was rape, then he needs to be punished harshly!

  48. darkbluegarage says: Nov 22, 2013 12:13 PM

    If Florida State makes it to the NCG I’d say that would qualify as extraordinary circumstances.

    Would anybody want to see a paper tiger playing in the NCG? I think not. It would not be fair to college football fans.

    I’m a Alabama fan and would not want to play FSU without Winstin, it would be a hollow victory.

    ROLL TIDE!

  49. oldforester says: Nov 22, 2013 12:25 PM

    Realfootballfan: Unfortunately, that’s just the way of the world, athletes included.”

    You may be right, especially considering those in power, athletes, etc.. Groupies were born a long time ago allowing anyone (including Anthony Weiner) ugly or not, to get lucky by someone who gets to claim a score with someone important.

    I wouldn’t throw everyone in that mix though. I don’t see an RG3, or McCaran, or Mariotta, etc. being the type that comes from a culture that allows them to do your daughter or sister the night before their girfriend arrives in town. Isn’t your type acceptance the reason stories like Penn State developed? Rule of life: Don’t overlook the obvious. What he did was wrong.

  50. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 22, 2013 1:30 PM

    You are out of your mind if you think a) FSU is all Winston and no one else and b) that it would be a victory AT ALL, much less a “hollow” one.

  51. edcolton says: Nov 28, 2013 2:34 AM

    why the hush-hush with the Ohio State cheerleading sexual scad Big money, little ten have some influence.?

  52. jmanballer4567 says: Dec 4, 2013 2:39 PM

    The honest problem is that there seems to be new leaks every week. If it is something that the DA doesn’t know about they have investigate that too. But one thing we do know is that if they had substantial evidence present, they would have charged him instantly. I am a pre-law major, and they need more than just DNA and the he said she said. The problem is the victim said that she was under the influence which damages the trust that could uphold the charge. To my knowledge, the victim still hasn’t fully cooperated yet. Without his and her cooperation, plus the alleged friendly encounters after the altercation, plus witnesses and records pointing toward consensual sex i think it’ll be tough to charge him. I think they are having this investigation just to make sure the local authorities don’t lose their respect.

    I currently am taking a sports law class right now, so naturally this is the center of discussion practically every day. This whole case can bring around huge issues because lets say he doesn’t win the Heisman but turns out he isn’t charged; he and the university can sue the authorities and the victims family based on false allegations ( slander and libel). Although a lot of the public believe that this only affects football, it actually is more than that. I hate to say this but even if he does get charged i believe they will let him play, if you look at the language in the code of conduct, “extraordinary circumstances”, what more of a circumstance could there be ” a bcs title”. That language was made for this.

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