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Report: no announcement on charges in Winston case today

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A report surfaced yesterday that a decision on whether to charge Jameis Winston in connection to an alleged sexual assault last December would be coming soon.  While that still appears to be the case, “soon” won’t translate into “Friday.”

Willie Meggs, the state’s attorney whose office is investigating the case, told the Tallahassee Democrat that there will be no announcement made Friday in regard to charging Winston in the case.  Meggs met earlier in the day with his staff, including the two investigators he assigned to the case last week, the Democrat wrote, “to determine what else must be done before deciding whether to press charges against” the Florida State quarterback.

That meeting came a day after Meggs reportedly met with Winston’s accuser.

“We are tying up some loose ends,” Meggs told the paper Friday morning. “Hopefully, we will have a quiet day. …

“I’m going to try to have all of our I’s dotted and T’s crossed. Hopefully, don’t overlook anything we could do.”

It remains unclear when a decision will be made by Meggs and his office whether to file charges against Winston, although that could happen as early as next week.  The only known is that Meggs will likely not present the case to a grand jury, instead deciding himself whether enough evidence exists to pursue charges against Winston.

A DNA analysis, ESPN.com reported early Wednesday morning, concluded that there was a one in 2.2 trillion chance that the semen obtained from the alleged victim’s underwear was not Winston’s.  Winston’s attorney, Tim Jansen, acknowledged Thursday that his client had sexual relations with the woman but that the act was “absolutely” consensual.  In a statement released Tuesday, the family of the alleged victim claimed she was raped and that Winston was the perpetrator.

While a report surfaced yesterday morning that “extraordinary circumstances” might preclude it, an indefinite suspension is a near-certainty if Winston were to be charged with a felony, an FSU official told CFT Friday.

UPDATED 3:03 p.m. ET: ESPN.com‘s Mark Schlabach stated on the Paul Finebaum radio show this afternoon that Meggs informed him that decision on whether or not to charge Winston will come Tuesday at the earliest.  No decision will be made this weekend, Meggs said.

 

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  1. dkhhuey says: Nov 22, 2013 12:12 PM

    This is going to get a bit crazy in the next few weeks I’m guessing! I find it a little unsettling that the sports media I’ve watched seemed to all focus on whether this will impact Winston’s Heisman and FSU’s title chances instead of the real life implications and consequences that he is facing. It was a bit disturbing to say the least!

  2. sportsdrenched says: Nov 22, 2013 12:29 PM

    I think the coverage has been pretty fair. Sports Media is Sports Media, not law media. Until the decision has been made to charge Winston or not it’s fair that the sports media would revert to what sports media does. Mainly focus on Heisman and BCS Title Chances.

    If charges ARE filed I will expect some more real world complication anaysis from the Media. Not only in what might come from a trail. I would also like to see an investigation of the TPD that appeared to have tried to keep a lid on this whole situation.

  3. js20011041 says: Nov 22, 2013 12:39 PM

    I would think that the longer the state goes without charging him, it gets more and more likely that they don’t have any evidence other than the word of the alleged victim.

  4. psunick says: Nov 22, 2013 12:43 PM

    “Sports Media is Sports Media, not law media.”

    Tell that to Penn State, and Joe Paterno.

  5. floridascuba1 says: Nov 22, 2013 12:49 PM

    The Victims camp isn’t doing her any favors. I find it hard to believe that she says she just wanted to put it behind her and move on. For none of this to go public. Reports made it sound Carroll is a family attorney for advice, but she has been engaged with TPD for results for the past year. I would think if a lawyer wasn’t getting answer, they would be smart enough to send a certified letter looking for an answer. I believe it will come down to who the 2 witnesses are and what they report of the events are. I am inclined to think that he won’t be charged since if there was enough evidence, he would’ve already. And FSU would bench him since the last 2 games where against horrible teams. There is no benefit to them taking that media risk.

  6. halbert53 says: Nov 22, 2013 12:50 PM

    Presenting it to a grand jury is the very thing that SHOULD be done. Winston deserves the cloud of suspicion to be removed from his name OR be found guilty if warranted. The accuser deserves a day in court or a substantial prison term if she is lying and is just out for money.

    1) If the prosecutor does not prosecute, claims will be made that he likes FSU or Winston. Failure to prosecute simply raises suspicions and doesn’t clear Winston’s name.

    2) If prosecutor does unilaterally press charges, people will say he is a fan of another university, doesn’t like Winston or people will say prosecution is racially motivated.

    Have accuser and Winston testify under oath at closed grand jury proceedings, where there is no right against self incrimination since they are not on trial.

    If no indictment, Winston has a weapon if accuser files a low threshold civil suit and grand jury has opportunity to affirmatively clear him.

    If indicted, FSU would reasonably be able to suspend him on probable cause , not simply on the opinion of one prosecuting attorney or unsubstantiated allegations.

    If either lies and contradicts their grand jury testimony they can be charged with perjury.

    There’s no guarantee the grand jury would make a decision based just on evidence, but that is essentially the same jury pool there would be for a trial jury.

  7. sfsugator says: Nov 22, 2013 12:51 PM

    The timing is awfully curious considering this happened in 2012, and his team is in the title hunt not to mention his chase after a Heisman. Woman in these cases get the benefit of the doubt which is horse shit. I smell gold digger or pyscho.

  8. ajarkoski says: Nov 22, 2013 1:05 PM

    TPD delayed investigation and the victim needed time to get to another school for safety. Lawyer needed time to make case. Makes sense to me.

  9. floridascuba1 says: Nov 22, 2013 1:18 PM

    @ajarkoski,

    How does she need time for another school when she just left last week make sense in the delay?

    Why was only Winston’s DNA leaked, nothing in regards to the toxicology test? Only have statements from her attorney.

    Every leak has been from her side it seems.

  10. gatorfan1 says: Nov 22, 2013 1:48 PM

    floridascuba1:

    The victims attorney stated, that back in December the detective told her the toxicology report came back negative for her client.

    I would now be worried for this reason. Winston’s attorney is blasting the leak about the DNA. So the cats out of the bag. Attorney’s on both sides have a tendency to fight cases through the media.

    At this point I would certainly think, that during the press conference blasting the leak, he would certainly make sure everyone knew the toxicology report was positive. As a matter of fact, no doubt he would also be leaking that there was a previous relationship, if there was one.

    Now it’s about getting the upper hand for jury selection. My own opinion, she wasn’t drunk and there is no evidence of any previous relationship.

    Not good for Winston in my opinion.

  11. arnie7781 says: Nov 22, 2013 2:10 PM

    Gatorfan 1-

    You’re taking the attorney’s statement about the DNA leak out of context. The attorney stated he was not concerned abou the results of the DNA test. The problem is that the leak creates a public outcry that could potentially shape the state attorney’s decision to charge Winston.

    To the rest of your point, Winston’s attorney has only responded to leaking information, which again, shapes the state attorney’s decision to file charges…Winston’s attorney’s comments have ZERO to do with “fighting cases through the media.”

  12. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 22, 2013 2:13 PM

    @ gatorfan1

    Winston’s attorney has said as little as possible and has shown no desire to fight this out through the media. His actions are the exact opposite in fact.

    Winston’s attorney has said very little regarding their position other than maintaining Winston’s innocence. Not disclosing their version of the facts and not embarrassing the victim with any details of the encounter.

    You know, following protocol and showing some self control, discipline, taking the high road…

    Not trying the case via the media, not leaking information about the case that portrays any details in a certain light…you know, acting responsibly. Not trying to frame the case one way or another, not trying to sway public perception…just the boring truth.

    The exact opposite of what you claim…

    Also, where was it EVER stated, written, claimed or disclosed that TPD told the victim that her blood work came back negative in December? Especially since the victims attorney has stated multiple times that they were still waiting on blood test results in April 2013? And the victim didn’t identify Winston until January 2013? Where did you pull December out of?

    Also, Winston’s attorney didn’t confirm a previous relationship only that the intercourse was consensual and this was a reluctant confirmation at best as the media kept asking the same questions over and over again…Not only was this not confirmed it hasn’t even been claimed.

    Getting the upper hand for jury selection?

    As a gator fan you should be more concerned with the November 30th beat down in the Swamp you’re gonna endure with or without Jameis Winston…

  13. floridascuba1 says: Nov 22, 2013 2:14 PM

    gatorfan1,

    The results have not been leaked. Only what was said in the statement from victims attorney on what she was told by police. Police said thats incorrect when talking to the press.

    My question is, the attorney says why wasn’t his roommate questioned at the time. Good Point, I will play along. So where is this witness now? Defense has 2. You only mentioned why he wasn’t questioned. Could this be because its a false statement? I don’t know.

    Only thing that has confirmed is something between the 2 happened.

  14. thefiesty1 says: Nov 22, 2013 2:27 PM

    Then why post an article saying that there is no announcement? No news is good news.

  15. gatorfan1 says: Nov 22, 2013 2:44 PM

    becauseisaysothatswhy:

    Page 2. # 4 of Accuser’s Attorney:

    “Why is it being represented in the press that the victim was intoxicated when Detective Angula told the family that the victim was not intoxicated based on the blood work”?

    http://www.tallahassee.com/assets/pdf/CD2153461120.PDF

    Copy and paste:

    This is why at this point it would be in Winston’s best interest that if the blood test was positive he let everyone know. If Meggs does file charges there will be an outcry from some people. Winston’s attorney main attempt is to have no charges filed, and by publicizing this fact it should make Meggs pause to act. This alone would destroy the case for the victim.

    BTW: Another misconception is the the lawyer is from FSU. Tim Jansen has also said he was not hired by FSU and is Winston’s private attorney.

    By the way, if people actually search, you can find out some very interesting information concerning how this all came to light. There is an article by Deadspin:

    http://deadspin.com/how-the-sexual-battery-investigation-of-jameis-winston-1465268259

    Most of you are not interested in actually reading important articles but pass on rumors. On the deadspin article, actual emails from Matt Baker(first person to request info on case) and other media like (TMZ).

  16. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 22, 2013 2:45 PM

    floridascuba1 says: Nov 22, 2013 12:49 PM

    The Victims camp isn’t doing her any favors. I find it hard to believe that she says she just wanted to put it behind her and move on. For none of this to go public. Reports made it sound Carroll is a family attorney for advice, but she has been engaged with TPD for results for the past year. I would think if a lawyer wasn’t getting answer, they would be smart enough to send a certified letter looking for an answer. I believe it will come down to who the 2 witnesses are and what they report of the events are. I am inclined to think that he won’t be charged since if there was enough evidence, he would’ve already. And FSU would bench him since the last 2 games where against horrible teams. There is no benefit to them taking that media risk.
    —————–

    Her attorney should keep quiet, because she sounds like a politician (liar) twisting everything that was reportedly told to her and her client. It looks bad, what she’s claiming, and I mean making her client look bad.

  17. mrsmell says: Nov 22, 2013 3:08 PM

    If Jameis is proven innocent, that girl is going to have the FSU community rip her apart ( I suggest her family get ready to pack up and leave Florida either way).
    If Jameis is found guilty, I can honestly say, I have watched one of the best NFL prospect to ever step on the field only to go down. Reminds me of Tyson.

  18. doggeatdogg says: Nov 22, 2013 3:40 PM

    To be clear and fair about something here. When it comes to rape victimology, a woman can report rape at any point after it occurs. The sooner the better for DNA evidence and conviction. Saying someone raped you 20 years ago may be true but there is a 0% probability for conviction.

    With an established relationship with him, my question is why didn’t she tell them it was JW and why did she continue seeing him after the so call rape. Maybe the prosecutors are having some issues with this as well.

    Any reasonable female would run for the hills away from her rapist or befriend reliable new friends, Smith and Wesson come to mind. See her commentary on social media for clues.

  19. stairwayto7 says: Nov 22, 2013 4:14 PM

    Sexual assault cover-up at FSU? When will they get a 4 year bowl ban, loss of schoarlships and wins taken away?

  20. noffy32 says: Nov 22, 2013 4:15 PM

    Just saw on another news wire. The duke lacrosse accuser just has been convicted of 2nd degree murder. Relevance? None really just that in most cases that look and sound funny usually have a ending yet to be written. I think that she has a separate motive (no necessarily money). Not a lawyer just an opinion.

  21. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 22, 2013 4:41 PM

    stairwayto7 says: Nov 22, 2013 4:14 PM

    Sexual assault cover-up at FSU? When will they get a 4 year bowl ban, loss of schoarlships and wins taken away?
    ————-

    The only way your favorite team can beat them, right? That’s your angle, obviously. You people who continue implying a cover up obviously don’t know one iota how things work with FSU and the Tallahassee police.

  22. gatorfan1 says: Nov 22, 2013 4:59 PM

    Mr. Wright 212:

    I have legitimate question for you. If the detective on the case refused to take a blood sample from Winston, because it would alert Winston and go public than how in the world did Winston find out and hire an attorney?

    Winston own attorney came out and said he was retained by Winston and not FSU.

    That is one of the accuser attorney’s being concern. She claims as of last week, when the client left FSU no one on their side had any knowledge that Winston even had an attorney.

    Any thoughts on this?

  23. gquesen says: Nov 22, 2013 5:02 PM

    Mr. Wright is just an authority on a EVERY topic (eye rolls).

  24. floridascuba1 says: Nov 22, 2013 5:03 PM

    Gator,

    My thoughts on that is the Victim tipped off JW. Of course this is based on the rumors that she knew him will before the report and even after.

  25. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 22, 2013 5:15 PM

    @ gatorfan1

    Way to try to back track, not address your original, baseless comments….no one told the victim anything regarding blood test results in December 2012 and December 2013 is a week away making your claim impossible…and Winston’s attorney isn’t trying to fight this via the media…thanks for the link & copy / paste to a bunch of unrelated stuff that has nothing to do with your prior rant.

    What difference does it make now regarding who broke the story…other than it was a reporter for the Tampa Bay Times [Matt Baker] and that the victim is from Plant City, just north of Tampa…though the victim’s attorney swears it wasn’t them…all of which still has nothing to do with your initial post…

    Currently there are only two facts in this case:

    1. Jameis Winston & the victim had intercourse

    2. Jameis Winston’s DNA tested positive confirming intercourse.

    Both facts are only confirmed because of the leaked DNA test results.

    There are no other confirmed facts everything else is total speculation.

    Had the test results not been leaked there would be no publicly confirmed facts what so ever.

  26. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 22, 2013 5:20 PM

    gquesen says: Nov 22, 2013 5:02 PM

    Mr. Wright is just an authority on a EVERY topic (eye rolls).
    —————–

    Can’t stand truth, can you?

  27. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 22, 2013 5:22 PM

    gatorfan1 says: Nov 22, 2013 4:59 PM

    Mr. Wright 212:

    I have legitimate question for you. If the detective on the case refused to take a blood sample from Winston, because it would alert Winston and go public than how in the world did Winston find out and hire an attorney?

    Winston own attorney came out and said he was retained by Winston and not FSU.

    That is one of the accuser attorney’s being concern. She claims as of last week, when the client left FSU no one on their side had any knowledge that Winston even had an attorney.

    Any thoughts on this?
    ——————–

    That whole thing is another aspect that makes it fishy as to who tipped off whom, and what the supposed “new evidence” (and where it came from) that gave rise for the authorities to investigate this further. It just seems off, and reeks of someone working an angle, with “justice” just being incidental to it all, based upon the commentary from mouthpieces for BOTH sides.

  28. gquesen says: Nov 22, 2013 5:25 PM

    Becauseisaysothatswhy:

    Thank you for hitting the nail on the head. That’s it, that’s all we know. Everyone comes on this sight acting like they’ve been studying law their entire life. Let the damn thing play out. Good lord.

  29. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 22, 2013 5:30 PM

    gquesen

    and would you believe….I’m not a lawyer!

  30. gatorfan1 says: Nov 22, 2013 5:37 PM

    becauseisaysothatswhy:

    I’m really not following you. You asked me:

    “Also, where was it EVER stated, written, claimed or disclosed that TPD told the victim that her blood work came back negative in December?”

    I answered. So I don’t know if your questioning the timeline? I’m not sure when they got the info, but somewhere along the line Detective Angulo let them know that the original blood work came back positive.

    I already built into my premise that the accuser’s lawyer may NOT be telling the truth! However, when the DNA test was taken they did another test on HER blood work.

    My point WAS, since someone from law enforcement obviously released the results about a POSITIVE match, it would be incumbent for Winston’s attorney to also release her blood work if it was possible.

    His attorney wants no charges, so my point is and was, one way to make Meggs hesitate to file charges would be knowledge released to public about a possible previous relationship AND a blood test if positive.

    If you truly believe lawyers don’t use public opinion to protect a client YOU are sadly naive and live in a cave. Public opinion will certainly play apart in Meggs going forward with a charge. If the public knew ahead of time about a possible relationship AND a positive blood test, he would be excoriated in and by the press. He is a political animal like most in his position. But you are entitiled to your opinion, just as I am!

  31. gatorfan1 says: Nov 22, 2013 5:38 PM

    I meant blood work came back “negative”

  32. gquesen says: Nov 22, 2013 5:42 PM

    Mr. Wright see becauseisaysothatswhy. Before this, I never had any feelings towards JW good or bad. If he is charged, get him in jail. If the victim lied, get her in jail. Unlike you, my fandom has nothing to do with this. Besides, my team and quarterback (ducks, Mariota) are out of the title race. I have no dog in the fight (again unlike you).

  33. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 22, 2013 6:15 PM

    gatorfan1 this is what you wrote that I was responding to:

    gatorfan1 says:
    Nov 22, 2013 1:48 PM

    floridascuba1:

    The victims attorney stated, that back in December the detective told her the toxicology report came back negative for her client.

    ______________________________

    There was no blood test results in December 2012. The victim was still waiting on results in April 2013. In fact, in December 2012 she hadn’t identified Winston as her attacker until January 2013.

  34. gatorfan1 says: Nov 22, 2013 6:31 PM

    becauseisaysothatswhy:

    Well first off the blood work in question back in April was Winston’s blood work not the Accuser’s.

    The night of the incident they used a rape kit for info and during that visit to the hospital, her blood work was taken.

    If you remember, the officer would not take blood or even interview Winston. However, sometime between the incident, and April, when the officer supposedly stopped returning the attorney’s calls he revealed a negative result from her blood work from December. That is clearly stated in the lawyer’s letter to the public. So, unless the new test result taken last week comes back positive, we can assume she was not drunk on the night in question. The part about no previous relationship IS my assumption. Partly based on the fact it took a month for her to identify him. If I’m wrong than I’m wrong, we shall see.

  35. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 22, 2013 7:26 PM

    gatorfan1

    Bro you go from pathological to incoherent. You stated that the police gave the victim results in December of a negative test, your words, quoted. You can talk in circles & bring up unrelated items as much as you want but that doesn’t explain away your initial baseless comment:

    gatorfan1 says:
    Nov 22, 2013 1:48 PM

    floridascuba1:

    The victims attorney stated, that back in December the detective told her the toxicology report came back negative for her client.

  36. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 22, 2013 7:32 PM

    gatorfan1

    Winston’s blood? What planet are you on? Winston just gave a DNA sample last week for the first time. There is no Winston blood test.

    What ever you are taking must be potent…

    Are you just making this stuff up?

    The victim did have blood work and it showed that she wasn’t drunk. Those were the results that she was waiting on in April, part of her Attorney’s demand letter.

  37. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 22, 2013 7:32 PM

    And for the conspiracy nuts out there, the longer this drags out, the likelier it is that they simply have nothing to charge Winston, not some grand cover-up, when Meggs is anything BUT averse to going after FSU guys when he has been armed with evidence in the past.

    And the team immediately kicked players off the team. This is not the asylum that Bobby allowed to flourish at times until the late 90s, anymore. If Winston is in the clear when this whole thing is resolved, it will be because they cannot prove anything beyond consensual sex occurred.

    Period.

    Those who hope that it is true for other reasons will just have to hope that the BCS gives you the leap by beating Michigan State (while FSU will still face a probably-ranked opponent) and hope the voters are swayed enough to the point to vote for Manziel again due to how long this drags out (which is not in Winston’s favor, AGAIN, for the conspiracy nuts who think that this is a stall job by the TPD).

  38. chachooga says: Nov 22, 2013 7:36 PM

    I haven’t followed all stories, but should Meggs name always be preceded by cynical adjectives?

    Any FSU fan would point out the precedence where this same D.A. Brought charges against an FSU player 10 years ago that had zero grounds and resulted in an all female jury unanimously acquitting the player.

    But the players life was permanently tarnished though he was innocent.

    Of all characters in this spotlight saga, Meggs is the ONLY one previously involved in something similar.

    My point? That should be mentioned frequently. Maybe someone less prone to media interviews and leaks should be in charge…for the sake of all parties.

    My point has nothing to do with guilt or innocence….just the saga. I am entirely supportive of investigating sexual assault charges regardless of who is involved.

  39. gquesen says: Nov 22, 2013 7:37 PM

    Your talking about conspiracy nuts, Mr. Wright? I find it Funny that, since his DNA matched, you haven’t mentioned the Urban Meyer “connection.” Despicable that you so openly joked about that…

  40. realfootballfan says: Nov 22, 2013 8:06 PM

    chachooga,

    I’m glad someone said it. Meggs is a class A bigoted, scumbag.

  41. gatorfan1 says: Nov 22, 2013 8:12 PM

    becauseisaysothatswhy:

    I went back and reread the letter. You are correct that the detective waited 4 months to give blood results.

    However, my premise is still correct. She was not drunk on the night of the incident. Most people have claimed she was drunk, that was my point.

    So my original point was, that the victim was not drunk and my feeling is that they did not know each other. Adding those two things up make me feel it is not a good situation for Winston.

    Satisfied now. My timeline was incorrect but my information is not. Making my original

  42. gatorfan1 says: Nov 22, 2013 8:13 PM

    premise valid!

  43. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 22, 2013 8:42 PM

    gatorfan1

    The premise is vaid…in your mind. None of your points are confirmed.

    There are only two confirmed facts in this case:

    1. Jameis Winston & the victim had intercourse

    2. Jameis Winston’s DNA tested positive confirming intercourse.

    Both facts are only confirmed because of the leaked DNA test results.

    There are no other confirmed facts everything else is total speculation.

    Had the test results not been leaked there would be no publicly confirmed facts what so ever.

    It’s very possible that in Winston’s two sworn witness affidavits that she is not listed as being drunk. it, along with the DNA may be a non-issue to Winston’s defense.

    You are speculating on everything, there is no basis.

    When the story broke the incident happened at a party. As of Tuesday night that changed to a bar where they allegedly did shots, grabbed a cab, went to an apartment and that’s where it occurred…all rumors, all speculation, constantly changing.

    In reality, beyond the two established facts we know absolutely nothing.

    For all I know Winston could be totally innocent of all charges & the victim could be aspiring to be the next Kardashian…until all the facts are disclosed we all know nothing in this rush to judgment.

    One thing is certain gatorfan1…next Saturday at the Swamp…it’s gonna be an old skool beatdown…premise valid!

  44. drush01 says: Nov 22, 2013 9:07 PM

    Look, Erica Klinsman of Delta Zeta can say what she wants… The fact of the matter is she isn’t the one pressing forward. Makes you wonder who really is then, right?

  45. floridascuba1 says: Nov 22, 2013 9:10 PM

    funny how TMZ is the first to report all the statements from “victim”.

    http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/22/jameis-winston-accuser-let-me-be-clear-i-was-raped/

  46. drush01 says: Nov 22, 2013 9:21 PM

    I think maybe she should stop stalking jocks and go back to being Erica Klinsman of Delta Zeta

  47. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:19 PM

    This whole thing stinks to high hell, and this broad is getting her name drug through the mud in the past 36 hours. She better hope she isn’t found to be lying, that’s all I know.

  48. gatorfan1 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:25 PM

    becauseisaysothatswhy:

    The fact that she wasn’t drunk is confirmed. It’s confirmed by his lawyers silence. Even you said the result was reported negative.

    Let’s cut to the chase: If she wasn’t drunk and they didn’t know each other he will be arrested! He may be found innocent by a jury but there will be a trial.

    Can you imagine if they didn’t know each other and she wasn’t drunk how many women’s groups would descend on Tallahassee if he wasn’t at least arrested.

    Actually you making me re-read the letter brings up another interesting point. Why would it take 4 months to hand over a negative toxicology report? Because in most of these cases the victim and accuser know each other and alcohol is usually involved. That is where these cases break down in court. Absent of these 2 things would not be good for Winston. That’s where I stand. Call me anything you want, only time will tell.

  49. brianc6234 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:29 PM

    There’s only one choice and that’s to charge him. It’s not up to them to decide if he’s guilty. There’s enough reason to charge him and let the legal system do their job. If he wasn’t guilty why would the local police have this big coverup anyway? They need to be investigated and charged too.

  50. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:37 PM

    brianc6234 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:29 PM

    There’s only one choice and that’s to charge him. It’s not up to them to decide if he’s guilty. There’s enough reason to charge him and let the legal system do their job. If he wasn’t guilty why would the local police have this big coverup anyway? They need to be investigated and charged too.
    —————–

    What are you? 13?

    No district attorney is going to file charges and have it hover without grounds to confidently take the case to trial, with the belief that he can win the case.

    Again, I question the angle that some of you people posting here; knowing that having Winston charged means he will be suspended, while COMPLETELY ignoring legal procedure and district attorney protocol LMAO amazing how ignorant you people are.

  51. floridascuba1 says: Nov 22, 2013 10:53 PM

    if you want to believe everything on the internet. Found this on a different site.

    Rick Ballou joined 1010 XL Primetime earlier today to
    discuss the latest developments he’s uncovered in the Jameis Winston
    investigation. Here are quotes from Rick during the interview; Rick will have
    all the latest on this story when his show begins at 4:00.

    “The news (on
    Winston) is getting ready to take a turn to benefit Florida State and their
    fans.”

    “I won’t say ‘shocked,’ but I’d be incredibly surprised if there
    are charges filed against Jameis Winston.”

    “I expect this to be dropped
    Monday or Tuesday and I expect no charges at all to be filed against Jameis
    Winston.”

    “The Winston side of is that there was a relationship before
    & after (alleged assault) and there are photos to prove
    that.”

    “Everything that I’ve been able to uncover in the last 12 hours
    proves that there is not enough evidence to charge Winston.”

    “There’s no
    physical evidence, that’s what I’m told, that proves this young lady was
    raped.”

    “(Accuser) has a very questionable reputation that is starting to
    get out that is going to be damaging to her and I think that’s something that
    she does not want to deal with.”

    “Willie Meggs is stepping away as the
    State Attorney after this term and his ego is not going to allow him to lose
    this case & walk away.”

  52. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 23, 2013 12:03 AM

    Check this picture of them together:

    http://images.4chan.org/sp/src/1385047387913.jpg

  53. gatorfan1 says: Nov 23, 2013 12:13 AM

    If that his her, than the case is over!

  54. dhardy8207 says: Nov 23, 2013 9:07 AM

    They need to review this case with great caution, the fact here is there is a young man’s reputation and livelyhood at steak. If he did it then by all means handle it through the courts accordingly, but quick judgement sometimes backfires.

    There was a young man from Spanish Fort Alabama back in 2011 had already signed a commitment for Bama. A young lady he knew accused him of rape therefore causing BAMA to withdraw his scholarship and he was in jail for awhile. Finally after over a year and legal expense, the young lady admitted that he didn’t rape her and her father made her file the charges. Now a court has ordered her father to pay restitution to this young man that will cover the cost of what he lost as a result of his part in all this lie…

    While I agree that there may be a dollar figure that will cover the loss of a scholarship and possibly if he had gone on to a promising NFL career, however no amount of money will restore his reputation.

  55. sillec28 says: Nov 23, 2013 1:15 PM

    If the accused was Joe Shmo rather than a football star he would have been charged, arrested, and likely in jail by now awaiting trial.
    Maybe he’d be found innocent, who knows. But between the woman going to a hospital right after the alleged rape, subjecting herself to collection of the “rape kit” evidence, and then DNA tests of her clothing matching Winston’s DNA so that the case is essentially a “he said-she said” case, Joe Shmo would almost certainly have been charged and arrested by now unless the alleged victim came across as totally unbelievable when Meggs interviewed her or unless there’s some other piece of evidence we don’t know about that blows her claim out of the water (but if that’s the case why is it taking Meggs so long to make a decision?)

  56. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 23, 2013 1:27 PM

    sillec28

    actually Matlock you couldn’t be more wrong and this is coming from numerous legal analysts like Roger Cossack who was on College Gameday today. He stated that DNA alone & an admission of intercourse was not enough to charge him. That a prosecutor only charges someone if they have enough to think they will get a conviction and that based on what was currently known there is not enough to charge Winston…

    and where in either of the alleged victim’s attorney’s statements does it say she went right to the hospital? incident occurred around 1 – 1:30 AM, police called around 4 am? how is that going right to the hospital?

  57. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 23, 2013 2:09 PM

    sillec28

    State Attorney’s Office Weighing Evidence

    ESPN legal analyst Roger Cossack discusses the legal strategy behind Jameis Winston not making a statement.

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10022395&ex_cid=espnapi_public

  58. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 23, 2013 4:40 PM

    Although I have said this myself, as should ANYONE who at least went past 1L in law school, Roger Cossack reiterates what I’ve said all along about why Winston shouldn’t speak (despite these ignorant ass MFs who probably snoozed through civics, mush less understand procedure), as well as how a DA WON’T take a case to trial unless he has a very good belief that he can get a conviction. I have said this over and over. This flimsy accusation certainly isn’t enough to charge, and the fact they’re dragging it out this long makes you wonder if it’s about the Heisman, not the team itself, because it should have been dropped by now, NOT when Heisman ballots are due next week…

  59. rhugga says: Nov 25, 2013 10:27 AM

    What reputable program would not have suspended this thug already?

    I can only think of a few schools that wouldn’t have…. and 2 of them are in Florida. Go figure.

  60. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 25, 2013 10:38 AM

    Still waiting for the people who are dying hoping this farce gets Winston suspended (likely the same people who think the Noles are all Winston and aren’t great in every regard) to tell me how it helps their team even IF he is suspended?

    Because it does not even take an attorney to see through all this and realize that no competent DA who cares about his career is going to take such a public case with flimsy evidence to trial knowing he will not win.

    Moreover, those who hope he is suspended fail to realize that FSU still wins out and still goes to the National Championship. So now you have to question peoples’ motives when making comments here. Trolling? Racist? Rival team fans bitter?

  61. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 25, 2013 11:11 AM

    rhugga

    It just may be that the school & coach are operating off of say…more information than you, I or anyone else not directly involved with the actual investigation are privy to.

    In this age of political correctness & massive legal liability do you think for one minute that FSU hasn’t fully investigated this completely? Most likely back in January 2012 when Winston was initially identified, legal council retained, sworn witness affidavits submitted? You don’t think the school’s legal counsel would have interviewed Winston & any potential witnesses to measure the level of liability prior to giving Winston the green light to stay on the team?

    This alleged incident occurred back when he was a third string true freshmen nobody who had not even taken a snap. Was behind EJ Manuel & Clint Trickett on the depth chart.

    Flash forward ten months to right now with everything the school & head coach now have invested in Winston as the face of the program that they would act in such a cavalier manor with no regard for the possible repercussions?

    By the way the school & coach seem awfully confident in Winston’s innocence, the school & coach’s unflinching, unwavering support…and Winston seems to play like someone with a clear conscience…obviously not distracted and displaying body language not that of a guilty person…not just during the game on the field but on the sideline joking with teammates, giving interviews with press since story broke, living under virtual microscope at all times yet cool, composed, focused…not acting guilty or defiant, not acting nervous, not coming undone, not lashing out…

    Winston may be many things but thug? When has he ever come across like a thug? Ever? Before and after every game he’s in a suit & tie. Every interview he comes off polite, well spoken, articulate, always credits his teammates & coaches, shows humility only takes personal credit for mistakes etc…comes off like a great teammate & person…has no criminal past what so ever.

    Why don’t you wait for all the facts before you brand him a thug and convict him guilty of any wrong doing.

  62. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 25, 2013 1:54 PM

    “Thug” is just code for someone who has an axe to grind with someone who’s Black, even if they are the furthest thing from a thug.

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