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Manziel’s Heisman hopes fade in loss to LSU

Johnny Manziel, Jermauria Rasco AP

The odds of Johnny Manziel winning a second Heisman were always long. After all, there’s only been one two-time Heisman winner  — Archie Griffin of Ohio State back in 1974-75.

But No. 12 Texas A&M’s loss to No. 22 LSU in Death Valley on Saturday pretty much put the matter to rest, as the Tigers stifled the normally prolific Manziel and defeated the Aggies, 34-10. It’s the first time this year that Texas A&M has failed to reach 40 points.

With the win, LSU moves to 8-3 overall and 4-3 in the SEC. A&M dropped to 8-3 and 4-3.

Manziel completed just 16 of 41 passes for 224 yards and one touchdown with two interceptions. He also added 54 yards on the ground. It’s a far cry from his usual production and marks the second year in a row that the Tigers have found a way to bottle him up.

The Aggies continued to struggle on defense, allowing the Tigers to pile up 324 rushing yards, which enabled them to possess the ball for a remarkable 40 minutes. Terrance Magee rushed for a game-high 149 yards and a touchdown on just 13 carries while quarterback Zach Mettenberger passed for 193 yards and two touchdowns as LSU pretty much had its way on offense.

The Tigers defense put in a sterling effort all game long. Besides keeping Manziel from going crazy, they held the Aggies to 75 rushing yards and just 5 of 14 on third down conversions. Star receiver Mike Evans couldn’t get untracked, either, as he caught just four passes for 51 yards.

This wasn’t Johnny Football brightest hour, but he’ll have another chance to redeem himself next Saturday against Missouri in what could be his final regular season game as a collegian.

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28 Responses to “Manziel’s Heisman hopes fade in loss to LSU”
  1. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 23, 2013 7:59 PM

    Congrats to LSU, they played a great game. They beat us… badly… on both sides of the ball. Their defense has been much maligned this year but they are obviously better than advertised. They have terrific speed. They had a great gameplan to handle Manziel and the Aggies could never seem to get it going.

    The Aggie defense did about as well as I thought they would, which isn’t much, but the Aggie offense which has been unstoppable all year, even by Bama, was very ineffective. Sumlin seemed to give up on the run way too early and put the whole thing on Manziel. 18 total carries and 12 of those were Manziel…. That’s not really acceptable.

    10 win season still possible but gonna have to win a huge one in Columbia and it won’t be easy.

    And Manziel was never going to win the Heisman this year, but he might not even get invited to NY after that awful performance.

  2. irishdodger says: Nov 23, 2013 8:10 PM

    As great as Evans is, TAMU is a one-man team. I think Sumlin is a great coach but he’ll be unfairly criticized next year when the offense falls off. Now if his D matures & can start stopping an FBS offense, he’ll truly be building something.

    The SEC is a one trick pony this year. It’s Bama & everybody else. I contend it’s that way most years, but that’s me. IMO, the other 13 teams should have to contribute to Saban’s salary as he’s the reason fans of the also-rans in that conference have had something to gloat about.

  3. dkhhuey says: Nov 23, 2013 8:14 PM


  4. chachooga says: Nov 23, 2013 8:16 PM

    But they have to be great because only they beat Bama last year so for all the hype of the SEC to be true and the SEC to always get the nod on the Championship game….THEY HAVE TO BE AWESOME….so what they lost 3 games….JOHNNY MAZIEL….SEC….12TH MAN….BLAH BLAH BLAH.

  5. southernpatriots says: Nov 23, 2013 8:39 PM

    The rookie LSU defense came through in good execution of the Chief’s game plan. He knew how to put pressure on Manziel and how to defense the Aggies and they allowed even less scoring that they did last season when LSU had all those now NFL players.

    Cameron had a great game plan to control the ball and to keep Johnny from the field of play. The LSU RBs did a great job and the LSU offensive line began to open holes which seemed wide enough to run a Mack truck through.

    Miles told us his team was ready. He said they would play a good game, and they did.

    Now on to the Thanksgiving Day open pit Razorback roast and accompanying feast.

    A great and dominating win for LSU. Congratulations to all LSU coaches, staff, and players and fans, myself included.

  6. cometkazie says: Nov 23, 2013 8:41 PM

    aTm is a great addition to the SEC.

    They fit.

  7. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 23, 2013 8:44 PM

    ESPN pissed, not even this farcical case against Winston can derail his Heisman candidacy.

  8. thefiesty1 says: Nov 23, 2013 8:46 PM

    Confused and erratic. That’s what happens when you give the Heisman to a freshman. Geaux Tigers! Humm, A&M loses to Alabama, Auburn and LSU. Kind of like playing in the Big 12. Losing to the top 3 like normal.

  9. mrlaloosh says: Nov 23, 2013 8:48 PM

    Johnny Who?

  10. novoodoo4409 says: Nov 23, 2013 8:58 PM

    @irishdodger- congrats, you’ve won the Heisman for being an IDIOT… And, a blithering one as well….quit posting and clean your room, basement dweller…

    Geaux Tigers….

  11. realfootballfan says: Nov 23, 2013 9:17 PM

    I don’t really even know why people are so into the Heisman race. It just doesn’t do anything for me. I hope somebody else does win it rather than Winston. Seems to be more of a curse than a blessing.

  12. Bob says: Nov 23, 2013 9:38 PM

    “The SEC is a one trick pony this year. It’s Bama & everybody else. I contend it’s that way most years, but that’s me. IMO, the other 13 teams should have to contribute to Saban’s salary as he’s the reason fans of the also-rans in that conference have had something to gloat about.

    So Saban is the reason Florida won it all in ’06 and LSU won it all in ’07 (OK, maybe he was that year, cue the Saban’s players argument) and Auburn won it all in ’10.

    Quit embarrassing yourself with your lack of college football knowledge and obviously SEC butthurt.

  13. Bob says: Nov 23, 2013 9:44 PM

    Oh, yeah, I forgot about Florida’s BCS win in ’08, too. Saban has three of the SEC’s seven, which means the other four went to other SEC schools. Let me know when your league wins one next. It’s pretty hard to do, especially if you’re not in the SEC.

  14. frank booth says: Nov 23, 2013 10:38 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 23, 2013 8:44 PM

    ESPN pissed, not even this farcical case against Winston can derail his Heisman candidacy.
    How is it a farce? How do you know who is lying?

  15. Anoesis says: Nov 23, 2013 11:21 PM

    Yes, bob, it IS hard to win a NT if you aren’t in the SEC because the SEC is catered to by ESPN which owns college football.

  16. amosalanzostagg says: Nov 24, 2013 12:09 AM

    Manziel lost a game. 19-5 as a redshirt sophomore.

    Personally, he received a taste of what the competition is like at the next level. He needs to get a couple of more years seasoning if he wants to go pro. I saw highlights since I was attending the Bama scrimmage, er football game. What happened to Evans?

    Iron Bowl is going to be hand to hand, no quarter, last man standing football.

    I love Rivalry weekend.


  17. suprmous says: Nov 24, 2013 2:35 AM

    How you be Stranger, I mean southernpatriots. Great dream breaker in Death Valley n’est pas? I can’t believe that L’il Ole Johnny Pigskin got put on his derrier like he did but it sure looked good. Just wish those calls against them had been called that were so overlooked. Course the ones against us really were uncalled for that didn’t make sense. But I guess you have to realize that not every call will be called. Now to rid Arkansas of their dreams of beatin us will put the icin on the cake and give me a sense of relief. When I think of Arkansas I have to think of all those times of wonderin why Bret Bilema thought he could come into the SEC and take over as King. To all of you AU and Bama folks good luck this comin wkn. And Everybody, one and all, have a good Thanksgivin.

  18. chachooga says: Nov 24, 2013 8:58 AM

    @Bob @Aeonesis

    No Doubt that the 7 straight SEC championships are somethign special.

    But there is ZERO doubt it comes out of the conference being catered too….it is a great conference, the best. but not by leaps and bounds, and NEVER deserving of having two SEC teams in the title game.

    Here is why. Texas A&M and Mizzou. They go from middle pack Big 12 teams to suddenly competing for SEC titles and beating the supposedly God like Alabama.

    Had A&M been a Big12 team last year and beaten Bama. Different story. Think about it.

    And goodness me, Mizzou has never done anything and now in their second year in the SEC they are likely going to the SEC title game.

    Teams usually enter a conference and struggle playing a slate of totally different teams. No so for these two mid pack Big12 teams.

    And lastly…the rankings…suddenly a 2 loss Texas A&M team is ranked #12….will a 3 loss A&M be top25? You bet….Ol’ Miss was.

    It is a hyped machine, and that hype gets you the little edge you need to win 7 straight titles, where you ridiculously get two teams in the title game.

  19. kdbroom says: Nov 24, 2013 9:00 AM


    “So Saban is the reason Florida won it all in ’06 and LSU won it all in ’07 (OK, maybe he was that year, cue the Saban’s players argument)”

    Then I guess Mike Shula gets credit for Saban’s first BCS title with Bama.

  20. fnf417 says: Nov 24, 2013 9:09 AM

    Missouri is gonna beat then next week in Columbia

  21. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 24, 2013 1:08 PM

    Anoesis says: Nov 23, 2013 11:21 PM

    Yes, bob, it IS hard to win a NT if you aren’t in the SEC because the SEC is catered to by ESPN which owns college football.

    Been saying this for years. And this guy quantified it thoroughly in print.

  22. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 24, 2013 7:53 PM

    No offense to Auburn or Bama fans but this is the first game I felt like we were just beaten.

    The other two games, there were things that didn’t go our way or calls that weren’t made or a ball bounced this way instead of that, but this game we were just beaten…. no ifs ands or buts about it.

  23. alligatorsnapper says: Nov 25, 2013 7:50 AM

    I sure caught alot of grief from Aggie alums over the past several weeks. Even the Longhorn alum chimed in. “…LSU could not stay on the same field with Manziel… Manziel, Evans, and team would leave LSU in the dust… LSU’s defense would yield 600 yards to the Johnny Football Express… Mettenberger cannot hit the side of a barn… He won’t be in the same game as Manziel, he will be left on the sideline watching a real QB play, while he cries…”

    I told them LSU beat Manziel last season at their field and would do it again at our field. But I was told Manziel was much better this season and the Aggies had more games this season to warm up.

    I was there. A&M was butt whipped. If Evans did not push off almost every play, he would not have caught the passes he did. If Harris did not pass interfere with Beckham every play he was close enough and usually not called for it, Beckham would have laid waste to Harris and the Aggie defense.

    If Miles was not such a a gentleman and classy, he would have continued to run the ball at the end rather than have Mettenberger take knee after knee after knee, and LSU would have added misery to the butt whipping with another 7 points. Sumlin needs to thank Miles and be glad he is not still in the Big 12 where piling on the points is a tradition with some teams.

    Don’t get me wrong…I love playing the Aggies. Love it! Whether we are good, bad, or ugly, I love it. More often than not, I usually get the last laugh. It is good to see some arrogance be tempered and brought back down to earth.

    I am already getting in my reservations for tickets to the game at College Station next year. I think I will intentionally sit in the Aggie section…ha!

  24. cometkazie says: Nov 25, 2013 2:50 PM

    It ain’t bragging when you can do it, ‘Snapper!

    The refs didn’t want aTm to look too bad!

  25. suprmous says: Nov 25, 2013 8:40 PM

    Good to see ya Snapper mon cher.

  26. suprmous says: Nov 25, 2013 8:44 PM

    To all my LSU Friends, can you believe its been suggested that Coach be fired? Yep, there’s been several folks from right here in the Great State of Louisiana who believe he should be fired. I guess they don’t know much bout his winnin percentage, huh? Thought I’d give you a Funny for the Day. Everybody still have a great Thanksgiving.

  27. tigersgeaux says: Nov 26, 2013 4:41 AM

    It is nice when LSU fans are treated by the team to at least one fun and enjoyable game each season. This one was enjoyable. I watched it live with my family, then watched it several more time on video and then watched it again on a A&M program which rebroadcast highlights of the game, cutting the huddle times and all but keeping all the plays. I was thinking that it must have been hard to edit out the non-essential moments and show all the plays and remind all Aggies of the domination of the Tigers and the shut-down of Manziel and team.

    suprmous: Some LSU fans are schizoid, or just want to vent. They may wish to beat Bama so much that they miss the fun of the other games. Then they have a coach who loses so many players to the NFL that it devastates the defense, and the offense has a new coach and game plan and they lose a few games and Miles has to go? They need to just relax and chill.

    great posts southernpatriots and alligatorsnapper. When I get past Thanksgiving I will breathe easier.


  28. southernpatriots says: Nov 28, 2013 10:27 AM

    We are taking a breather from the frenetic pace of preparations for a large contingent of our family coming into town and down here between the bayou and swamp to our little abode to eat a smoked meat feast with all the traditional and not so traditional Thanksgiving trimmings.

    We want to wish our hosts, John Taylor (JT) and our newcomer Chris Huston as well as all CFT posters….

    A Happy Thanksgiving!

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