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TPD releases timeline of Jameis Winston investigation

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While we could go with BB guns, hot soda pop or previously-known protocol for awards, we’ll just stick with something more pertinent when it comes to advancing this particular story.

Facing mounting criticism from multiple media outlets over its handling of the case, the Tallahassee Police Department Wednesday afternoon released a timeline related to its investigation into the complaint of alleged sexual assault made last December against Jameis Winston.  The release of the timeline comes one day after reports surfaced that the investigation into the case, now being handled by the state’s attorney office, will drag on beyond this week, with a decision on the filing of charges likely not in the offing until after the ACC  championship game two Saturdays from now.

“As we have previously said, this is an active investigation and we are not going to discuss details that could possibly impact this case,” TPD interim police chief Tom Coe said in a statement. “At the same time, there have been process questions that I want to respond to because I believe they demonstrate TPD’s  professionalism and the investigative processes of a sexual battery case.”

While the intent was to answer questions, there’s very little new information contained in the TPD’s release.

The timeline confirms that, within a couple of weeks of each other, both the alleged victim and the potential suspect (Winston) declined to speak with police.  The alleged victim canceled a scheduled interview with police one day after requesting to speak to TPD detectives.

Below is the timeline, as provided by the TPD in the press release posted to its official website:

December 7, 2012: The Tallahassee Police Department (TPD) responds to a sexual battery case referred by the Florida State University Police Department because the alleged incident occurred off campus. TPD transports the victim to the hospital for treatment and evidence is collected including a sexual assault kit. An investigator responds to the hospital and interviews the victim.

December 7, 2012: An initial police report is filed. Contact is made with an assistant state attorney related to obtaining cell phone records, although no potential suspect had yet been identified.

December 7, 2012 to January 10, 2013: Additional investigative follow up is conducted, including witness interviews, pursuing investigative leads, issuing a court order and a search warrant.

January 10, 2013: The victim calls the investigator and identifies a suspect by name and a meeting is scheduled with the victim.

January 11, 2013: An attorney contacts TPD representing the victim and indicates all future contact will be through her and the meeting with the victim does not occur.

The week of January 14th, 2013: TPD investigator makes contact with the suspect and requests an interview.

January 15, 2013: Based upon now having a named suspect, all applicable evidence is sent to Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) for processing.

January 23, 2013: The potential suspect’s attorney tells TPD his client declined to be interviewed.

On February 11, 2013: A supplemental police report is filed indicating the case is open but inactive and will be further pursued if the victim decides to pursue charges.

February 22 & March 29, 2013: Results received from the FDLE Toxicology Section are received, which are relayed to the victim’s attorney. The victim’s attorney stated she would review the findings with her client and contact the investigator if she wished to pursue the case further.

August 27, 2013: FDLE provides the analysis of the sexual assault kit to TPD.

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31 Responses to “TPD releases timeline of Jameis Winston investigation”
  1. arnie7781 says: Nov 27, 2013 4:18 PM

    So…guilty! Cover up! amirite?

    #GONOLES

  2. BrownsTown says: Nov 27, 2013 4:19 PM

    LOL….change a few lyrics around and Aenema could be about Florida.

  3. pricecube says: Nov 27, 2013 4:24 PM

    It is kind of hard to believe almost nothing has happened an entire year into the process.

  4. sanduskyshowerspecial says: Nov 27, 2013 4:29 PM

    So assuming that the TPD can prove this timeline, and pure logic tells me that they wouldn’t have released it if they couldn’t substantiate it, the “victim’s” attorney hasn’t been exactly truthful with her widely public claims now has she. Your move, Patricia Carroll..

  5. Charles Olson says: Nov 27, 2013 4:39 PM

    Reblogged this on COS- Charles Olson Sports.

  6. jhagman99 says: Nov 27, 2013 4:45 PM

    “the “victim’s” attorney hasn’t been exactly truthful with her widely public claims now has she. Your move, Patricia Carroll..”

    Hasn’t stopped the media at large from running with her every word and treating it as concrete fact.

  7. be4bama says: Nov 27, 2013 5:00 PM

    What is TPD waiting on?

  8. buryyourduke says: Nov 27, 2013 5:18 PM

    I don’t know what happened, and neither do you. What bothers me though is that if this dude weren’t the QB of a football team, y’all would be clamoring for him to be locked up. Deny it if you want, but anyone who is unbiased knows it is the truth. Let the investigation run its course, I hope he is innocent. However the near universal support and excuse making I read from fans on this site is pretty sickening.

    Again, if this girl was someone you knew and this guy were just some dude, y’all would be ready to string him up. Look in the mirror because you know it’s true.

  9. wildbill7200 says: Nov 27, 2013 5:21 PM

    1). Victim claims she had (ONE) drink that night and took a cab home.
    2). After sexual encounter, she tells TPD that she was drunk and doesn’t know who assaulted her.
    3). Toxicology reports confirm that the victim wasn’t
    Drunk.
    4). Having consensual sex and later regretting it make it RAPE,

  10. sillec28 says: Nov 27, 2013 5:33 PM

    First thing that jumped out at me is something that isn’t there – no apparent effort to contact Winston and get his side of the story and no attempt to get his DNA. Also no explanation of why they waited so long to turn the sexual assault complaint over to the SA. Like the article says, this is mostly stuff we already knew.

  11. arnie7781 says: Nov 27, 2013 6:57 PM

    Be4bama-

    The answer to your question is “probable cause.”

    #gonoles

  12. jhagman99 says: Nov 27, 2013 7:29 PM

    ” What bothers me though is that if this dude weren’t the QB of a football team, y’all would be clamoring for him to be locked up. Deny it if you want, but anyone who is unbiased knows it is the truth. Let the investigation run its course, I hope he is innocent. However the near universal support and excuse making I read from fans on this site is pretty sickening.

    Again, if this girl was someone you knew and this guy were just some dude, y’all would be ready to string him up. Look in the mirror because you know it’s true.”

    It would bother me if anyone would be clamoring for a guy to be locked up without having all of the evidence presented. In a case like this, with so many questions and erroneous media reports, anyone begging for him to be locked up is a fan of a rival or a complete idiot. Doesn’t mean you have to support Jameis or FSU, but that isn’t how the justice system works. We don’t try or charge people on whether or not some yahoo on a message board has a “feeling” he’s guilty or innocent. This goes for both sides of this argument. Bias goes both ways.

    And of course the guy is gonna have a lot of support. Yeah, he’s gonna get blind support from people who just adore him and/or FSU football. He’s also gonna get support from people who know him, people who follow him as a person (and this DOESN’T count Mr. “I spent a day in Tallahassee talking to a couple college kids and suddenly I have a feel for the entire FSU fanbase/student body/alumni” reporter from TBT and Yahoo), and people who know more than what the mainstream media want us to believe.

    “Again, if this girl was someone you knew and this guy were just some dude, y’all would be ready to string him up. Look in the mirror because you know it’s true.”

    If I knew her and not Jameis, based solely upon what we have heard so far, I wouldn’t exactly be doling out blind praise and support for her, either. Again, it goes both ways. What if this were you or your son, brother, etc., being accused? Would you want him treated fairly in the face of such astounding accusations? Look in the mirror then.

  13. jhagman99 says: Nov 27, 2013 7:35 PM

    Not referring to anyone in particular here, though.

  14. bratbeach says: Nov 27, 2013 7:49 PM

    sillec28 says:
    Nov 27, 2013 5:33 PM
    First thing that jumped out at me is something that isn’t there – no apparent effort to contact Winston and get his side of the story and no attempt to get his DNA.
    —–

    It says “The week of January 14th, 2013: TPD investigator makes contact with the suspect and requests an interview.” So, according to this timeline, they did attempt to contact him and then later on January 23rd, his lawyer (said he) declined.

    As for the DNA, I’m no lawyer or cop but I would imagine there’s more required to get DNA from a suspect than just being named as a suspect. It seems as if people feel that the police have free reign to collect anyone’s DNA whenever they want.

    I think the more appropriate questions would be what, if any, evidence or information did they find during the “additional investigative follow up” and would that have been enough to get a court order for DNA?

  15. ashleyspashley says: Nov 27, 2013 8:36 PM

    …so this story only broke a couple of weeks ago but TPD indicates the ‘latest’ date on the timeline is from August?

  16. realfootballfan says: Nov 27, 2013 8:49 PM

    sillec28,

    She broke off contact with the police when the attorney representing her contacted the police but then the accuser never showed up the day after naming Winston as the suspect a month later.

  17. halbert53 says: Nov 27, 2013 9:12 PM

    Couple of oddities:

    1) A little more than a month after the incident, the victim gets an attorney who then doesn’t want the victim to talk to TPD. Why would a victim need an attorney. ( other than for a civil lawsuit) and why not cooperate with TPD?

    2) As of March 29, victims attorney indicated she would get back with TPD if the victim wanted to proceed with charges. Nothing on timeline shows attorney ever got back to TPD, but then the whole thing goes viral.

    Nothing in the timeline suggests the victim is working with TPD once her attorney enters the fray. In fact it appears just the opposite.

    I don’t know what actually took place. But, like Gibbs on NCIS, I don’t believe in coincidences.

  18. realfootballfan says: Nov 27, 2013 9:27 PM

    The bottom line is that this case stalled when the young woman refused to cooperate. People trying to paint it as police protecting Winston, him dodging police, and other fanciful theories all overlook what happened. The day after naming him as a suspect, again a month after the initial complaint, the woman stopped cooperating on multiple occasions. This was the very next day, not a week later, months later, etc. The very next day. Besides the bizarre month long gap between identifying him as a rapist, something that would normally be reserved for a case where the perpetrator is unknown, the only other explanation being a date rape drug scenario which would already have been included in those toxicology leaks, the story just doesn’t add up from the accuser’s vantage point.

    Like I’ve said previously, whether the accuser stopped cooperating due to being warned of the football mentality of Tallahassee (something I’m still trying to understand how the national media came up with from seeing how very different from that portrayal TPD actually is)or because she lied in the first place and wanted this to go away after realizing the enormity of the lie is the question. From what I’ve been told, the latter is the case, as you will notice even the family lawyer intimated as much saying that she wanted to move on from this incident before the media inquiry reopened this case.

    My speculation is that the media inquiry came in order to ignite a chain of events that will eventually lead to the goal of a lawsuit of the city of Tallahassee since they were the target of Ms. Carol’s initial diatribes.

  19. psychologyofsports says: Nov 27, 2013 9:44 PM

    One complicated and complex case here is my take on it–http://psychologyofsports.com/2013/11/23/the-jameis-winston-rape-case-reflects-the-best-and-worst-of-us/

  20. Deb says: Nov 27, 2013 10:34 PM

    halbert53 says:

    Couple of oddities: … Why would a victim need an attorney. (other than for a civil lawsuit) and why not cooperate with TPD? … Nothing in the timeline suggests the victim is working with TPD once her attorney enters the fray. In fact it appears just the opposite.
    ————————————————–

    I also used to think the only reason for an assault victim to hire an attorney was for a potential civil suit. But I’ve known crime victims who hired representation to advise them through the process of a criminal trial. Apparently the attorney is a family friend.

    However, it does seem the accuser stopped cooperating the minute the lawyer came into the picture. The implication was that together they decided it was in her best interest not to press charges.

  21. normtide says: Nov 27, 2013 11:36 PM

    You need a lawyer for everything, just ask a lawyer. They will tell you that.

    Lawyers lie. Gasp!!

    Let me break this down. FSU fan- this is crazy. It’s clear he is innocent. The DA is just trying to go after an athlete. It’s all a ruse to affect his Heisman and FSU’s chance for a title.

    FSU hater. He is clearly guilty. Plain as day. Thus DA is just trying to cover for an athlete. He is protecting his Heisman and FSU’s title hopes.

    My take- TPD made some mistakes initially in the case. Not saying it was a cover up, but it wasn’t handled right.

    Oh, and the DA is a douche. Everything is his fault!

  22. henryjones20 says: Nov 27, 2013 11:56 PM

    I hate lawyers and groupies

  23. doggeatdogg says: Nov 28, 2013 12:15 AM

    Obviously the girl decided to drop the case back in January. She probably gave an account of what happened to her initial lawyers and they told her she had no case.

    Back in December and based on something entirely different she went to the police. Nothing to do with fame/money/potential. Nobody knew what was coming in the Fall 2013. This was all about ‘the other girl’, his gf coming to town. In similar cases it’s regrets she did it at all, regrets she did it with a black guy (historically troublesome), regrets she did it with a married guy.

    Everybody in FSU is catching fever including this girl and she goes flapping to the aunt on her connections to great Jameis; about this unresolved case, she went to see a lawyer, blah blah.

    EUREKA. How opportune for the aunt/lawyer team to restructure this as rape. The Winston team thinking this thing was over (from back in January) is caught flat footed. Their claim of consensual sex which should have been done back in January is now looking like an afterthought.

    In the meanwhile, no one knows anything about this in October and the family starts leaving breadcrumbs to the press and social media. People start adding 2 and 2 and nothing is adding up. They later complain their girl is being unfairly scrutinized and ‘it was rape.’

    Somebody rapes my kid, I take her to the doctors, I take her to the cops, to the DA, every meeting I get asked to go, I bring a lawyer to help me navigate the legal mambo mambo if I need it, we will be respectful of the process. Yes frustrated. But you never give up, especially if you know who the perp is.

    If this theory is correct some people should lose their law license and others should go to jail. But it’s just a theory.

    And BTW: I would be interested in learning about any writings or publications of Ms Carroll and her philosophy on rape. Some women, particularly militant feminists believe that ALL SEX (male with female) is rape. Any publication on that score should be relevant to this case.

  24. doggeatdogg says: Nov 28, 2013 12:24 AM

    And one more thing. Under what conditions can the first attorney she consulted be compelled to tell what he knows about this case?

    Why did he advise her not to proceed with the case?

    Why did he think it was against her best interest?

    Why not refer the case to the State Attorney if he felt police was advising her to reconsider based on being in a football town, etc?

    Can he be subpoena to a grand jury?

    Where are the lawyers when you need them?????

  25. provguard says: Nov 28, 2013 1:52 AM

    Blackmail or angry the blackmail didn’t work?

  26. bronzestarusmc says: Nov 28, 2013 5:26 AM

    Something smells on both sides!

  27. florida727 says: Nov 28, 2013 11:16 AM

    This is going nowhere and I’ll try you exactly why.

    The “victim” is a white skirt from Tampa that’s part of a group on campus called “Cleat Chasers”. A group of girls that, obviously, get off on being seen with, hanging around, and having their pictures taken with FSU football players. This so-called ‘victim’ had numerous pictures of herself with Winston on her Facebook page and had been one of his ‘regulars’ until recently. Now that she’s yesterday’s news in terms of hanging with the star player, she’s pissed off and her parents have gotten into the act. So yeah, they screwed a few times. Now that he has another steady girlfriend, and therefore no use for her, this ‘victim’ wants revenge. BTW, I have this all on good authority from someone I consider a very reliable source. There will be no charges filed. If the whole truth actually does come out, Winston should be the one filing charges… for defamation.

  28. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Nov 28, 2013 2:40 PM

    ‘Four people were there and three say nothing happened’: Attorney for college football star Jameis Winston says he will be ‘completely exonerated’ from rape claim

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515049/Jameis-Winston-completely-exonerated-rape-claim-says-attorney.html

  29. normtide says: Nov 28, 2013 2:43 PM

    Oh, well if his attorney says he is innocent, he must be. Why didn’t the lawyer just say so from the start? We could have avoided all this mess. On Nov 28, 2013 1:40 PM, “CollegeFootballTalk” wrote:

    > becauseisaysothatswhy commented: “‘Four people were there and three > say nothing happened’: Attorney for college football star Jameis Winston > says he will be ‘completely exonerated’ from rape claim > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515049/Jameis-Winston-completely-exonerated-rap > “

  30. covvb0y says: Nov 29, 2013 12:36 PM

    since when did rape suspects begin being allowed to dismiss an interview with the police and continue walking around in society without being brought in for questioning or for booking? Athletes must get more perks in life.

  31. Deb says: Nov 29, 2013 2:36 PM

    @doggeatdogg …

    I pray you never go through anything like this, but if someone rapes your kid, let her tell you how she wants to handle it. The most important thing is her physical and emotional recovery. That trumps everything. It isn’t about you. So you don’t “take” her anywhere. You can help her go where she needs to go.

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