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Buckeyes (barely) ahead of Auburn in coaches’ poll

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And so it begins.

The USA Today coaches’ poll was released early Sunday afternoon and, as expected, there was important movement at the top of the rankings.  The kind of movement that will, once again, make Ohio State sweat.

The Buckeyes, thanks to top-ranked Alabama’s first loss of the season, did the expected and moved into the No. 2 hole behind new No. 1 Florida State.  That object in the mirror, however, is much closer than they would like for it to appear.

Auburn, which stunned the Tide with no time left Saturday night, is now at No. 3, just 25 points behind the Buckeyes.  Last week, the Tigers had been No. 5 and 160 points behind the Buckeyes.  The initial closeness in the immediate aftermath of the Tide’s loss seemingly sets up a scenario in which Ohio State, if it struggles in a close win in the Big Ten championship game against Michigan State, could possibly be leapfrogged by Auburn if the Tigers bounce Missouri in impressive and blowout fashion in the SEC championship game.

The Buckeyes did claim four first-place votes this week.  The Seminoles were given the other 58.

Mizzou moved up one No. 5 in the coaches’ Top 25, 147 points behind OSU and 122 behind AU.  That appears to be too much ground for the Tigers to make up in the chase for a spot in the BCS title game, even with a drubbing of the West Tigers next weekend in Atlanta.

The Tide, which could still be in the BCS title game mix if both FSU and OSU lose next Saturday, slipped three spots to No. 4.  The rest of the Top Ten is rounded out by No. 6 Oklahoma State (No. 7 last week), T-No. 7 Baylor (No. 8), T-No. 7 South Carolina (No. 9), No. 9 Michigan State (No. 11) and No. 10 Stanford (No. 10).

Duke made one the biggest moves up in the poll, climbing from No. 24 to No. 20.  It’s the Blue Devils’ best-ever standing in the coaches’ poll.  That jump was trumped by only Arizona State, which moved from No. 18 to No. 13.

Fresno State dropped nine spots (to No. 22) after its first loss of the season, while Clemson (No. 11) and Wisconsin (No. 21) tumbled seven each positions each.

Undefeated Northern Illinois, which has its sights set on busting the BCS, is at No. 18, up from No. 20 a week ago.  If the Huskies can finish in the top-16 in the final BCS rankings — they were No. 14 last Sunday — and ahead of No. 17 UCF (if they win the AAC), NIU will make it back-to-back BCS bowl appearances.

Texas at No. 24 is the only new addition to Week 14’s Top 25, while USC dropped out after entering the weekend No. 23.

Coaches' Poll Week 14

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57 Responses to “Buckeyes (barely) ahead of Auburn in coaches’ poll”
  1. thraiderskin says: Dec 1, 2013 1:21 PM

    It sounds fair to me… at #4, Auburn can’t beat #1 and not be on the verge of leap frogging the team ahead of them… If OSU wants the chance for an NC, they must soundly beat MSU, no way around that outcome. auburn is not the team they were when they lost early on the season, so one loss isn’t going to hamper their chances if they take the SEC. If OSU does its job against MSU, they deserve their shot, even if they get crushed by FSU.

  2. taintedlombardis says: Dec 1, 2013 1:26 PM

    Mizzou might lay down. That would please S.EC brass.

  3. realfootballfan says: Dec 1, 2013 1:30 PM

    thraiderskin,

    It’s not like Auburn got blown out in their one loss to begin with. However, I do think if Ohio State wins out, they deserve the shot.

  4. wallio says: Dec 1, 2013 1:34 PM

    it amazes me OSU is still up there. I’m sure the NCAA is going to love the 35 point spread for the NC Title game…..

  5. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Dec 1, 2013 1:39 PM

    So Auburn – – who needed a miracle against Georgia and benefitted from a once in a lifetime play last night, who also has incidentally LOST to a mediocre LSU team with multiple losses – – is now magically more deserving of a title shot. I’m sorry Mr. Jacoby, being in the title game is not an SEC birthright.

    If we take care of business in Indy, no way we get left out. Period.

    And don’t even start with ‘who have you played?’ I believe we have played 3-4 defenses in the top 25 and managed record breaking point totals and rushed for over 300 yards in 7 games. And with all due respect to FSU – a fantastically complete team – outside of Clemson, who have they played? And what defenses have they faced?

    And also spare me the BCS history lesson. We are 6-3 in bowl games, MNC win and two losses. FSU is 1-5 in BCS bowls. Two years ago ACC was laughing stock. You pull in our history, I’m dragging FSU’s behind me.

    Again, we gotta win in Indy and let the chips fall. I seem to recall a team in 2002 which was labelled the Luckeyes beating a significantly favored Florida team once before.

    It’s any given Saturday, ladies and gentlemen.

  6. villain612 says: Dec 1, 2013 1:41 PM

    If Ohio State beats Michigan State, they should be in the title game.

    Sure, the Big Ten is not as strong as the SEC, but its still a major conference. Same goes for the ACC.

    In all reality, the grilling of Ohio State’s schedule but giving Florida State a complete pass in this conversation is a joke. The Seminoles beat 4 teams this year with winning records. Ohio State beat 5. Neither are spectacular but to say that there’s a big difference between the two is disingenuous.

  7. atwatercrushesokoye says: Dec 1, 2013 1:48 PM

    Watch OSU, FSU and Auburn all lose next week and we’ll end up with a Bama v Mizzou national championship game.

    It probably won’t happen, and I really hope it doesn’t, but Bama (and the SEC) always seem to rise up from nowhere when you count them out.

  8. duwaynebaird says: Dec 1, 2013 1:52 PM

    Why does OSU have to win convincingly against a team that’s in the Top 10 and has one of the nation’s top defenses? Is Michigan State not a “real” top 10 team?

  9. halbert53 says: Dec 1, 2013 2:00 PM

    OSU left the door open a crack by allowing Michigan to put up 40 points, which in late season does not sound like a NC-worthy team. Bad things can happen when you leave the door open. Just ask Bama.

    OSU will get better under Meyer but the road to a NC is about to get much tougher for them with a playoff system. In the future winning the NC means beating Top 4 teams back to back, which is essentially what Auburn will have done if it beats Missouri in the SEC championship game.

    This year is a perfect example of why we nee

  10. ohioguy614 says: Dec 1, 2013 2:05 PM

    Just makes me laugh when I see people trying to justify a squeeker win in the SEC as so much better than anyone else squeeking out a win. If you look at this past weekends games, almost all of them were close by one touchdown or less. But somehow, the SEC’s wins and losses were better?

    I agree with one of the comments above that said, “I’m sorry Mr. Jacoby, being in the title game is not an SEC birthright. ” The arrogance of the SEC is astounding. He even said that it would be a disservice to the rest of the country not to have a one loss team from the SEC in the NC game. LOL.

    No wonder everyone wants someone OTHER than the SEC in the NC game now. The SEC knows arrogance!!

  11. manik56 says: Dec 1, 2013 2:17 PM

    It probably shouldn’t amaze me that the very same school the BCS screwed over the most in it’s 15 year history is advocating doing the same thing to someone else, but it does.

  12. Deb says: Dec 1, 2013 2:18 PM

    At this point, I’m just happy the Tide is still in the top five. Of course, I’d like an SEC team to be in the title game. And of course, I realize no fan outside the SEC understands why I’m saying “of course” regarding a team other than my own making the title game. The SEC is a community other conferences don’t understand.

    But that’s out of our hands. All we can do now is wait and see what happens in the final games of the season.

  13. ken49ers says: Dec 1, 2013 2:20 PM

    If Notre Dame played a garbage schedule like tosu and got plopped into the title game there would be RIOTS.

  14. chachooga says: Dec 1, 2013 2:21 PM

    That is stupid.

    Ohio State (I hate them) is undefeated and with the eye test better than Auburn. Auburn stumbled into this…OSU has dominated all year.

    The SEC homers need to give it a rest.
    -Neither auburn nor Missouri went to a bowl last year, now both in the championship game.
    -Mizzou was a mid pack Big12 team two years ago, suddenly in the SEC championship game?

    Go NOLES!

  15. manik56 says: Dec 1, 2013 2:21 PM

    Punctuation. Damn.

  16. jets12 says: Dec 1, 2013 2:22 PM

    I’m a huge SEC fan. Graduated from South Carolina. That being said if FSU and Ohio State win their conference championships, they deserve and should be in the the National Championship Game. Alabama failed to take care of business and they or no other one loss team deserves to jump an undefeated FSU or Ohio State.

  17. thraiderskin says: Dec 1, 2013 2:28 PM

    I’m a realist, OSU has done what was asked of it, but that doesn’t mean I ignore the glaring deficiencies. I look at teams who are hot and look at what they are doing at this point of the season. Some people look at a W as a W, but CFB has never operated like that. A team like Ohio State needs to show who they are in the B1G championship, not to Buckeye fans, but to everyone else. I’ll ignore what happens in The Game, but there is plenty of other games to make me weary. Try being objective, it doesn’t mean u love Ohio State less, it just shows u aren’t a moron.

  18. villain612 says: Dec 1, 2013 2:34 PM

    “Some people look at a W as a W, but CFB has never operated like that. ”

    Umm…..yes it has, at least when it comes to teams from the major conferences.

  19. atwatercrushesokoye says: Dec 1, 2013 2:38 PM

    Arguing what a team did last year or two years ago has no relevance into the conversation about this season’s national championship.

    This is the problem with the BCS system, there’s usually more than 2 teams deserving of being in the NC mix, the 4 team playoff will fix it slightly, but hopefully an 8 team playoff won’t be that far down the road, that way we’ll truly get to see the teams decide it on the field.

  20. thraiderskin says: Dec 1, 2013 2:41 PM

    Umm… no, it hasn’t, CFB has always looked at style points, being from a major conference helps, but how u won has always mattered, especially voters.

  21. thefiesty1 says: Dec 1, 2013 2:43 PM

    The OSU will drop out when Michigan State embarrasses them in the so called Leaders/Legends Championship game, eliminating the discussion.

  22. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:04 PM

    How in the WORLD does Ohio State get any first place votes when they struggled against a bad team and was a few feet from LOSING?

    Florida State’s games haven’t been close all season.

  23. villain612 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:07 PM

    In BCS history, when it comes to major conferences, the teams who win all their games, go to the national championship game. Style points only have come into play when there were 3 unbeatens (which has happened once) OR when there were a bunch of one-loss teams.

    A win is a win matters when you win ALL of your games.
    That’s how its always been.

  24. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Dec 1, 2013 3:12 PM

    Raider

    It was a rivalry game. Throw out the records and all the stats. You HAVE to know this. Borges emptied the playbook and UM played their guts out. How is this any different from Auburn, Oregon State, or any other close call underdog games?

    We get EVERYONES best shot. Just the week before we shut down an Offense at Indiana which had been going crazy.

    Also, being on the road coupled with the history of spoiler seasons cannot be ignored. Yeah our defense sputtered. But I recall a little known linebacker named Will Allen picked off a pass in 2002 against UM to send us to the MNC. Sound familiar? Worked out well for us against a favored Florida team if I recall.

    Also, let me remind everyone of this: we started the season ranked number two. We won every game and we were jumped 15 times, fell spots or stayed the same (but for our bye week) . FSU won every game too-against VERY similar competition in and out of conference play AND moved up. That happens to anyone else, and cfb would implode.

  25. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:16 PM

    I keep hearing this “rivalry game” excuse. What, UF isn’t an FSU rival? Ohio State has had 4 or 5 of those types of games against below average teams this year. It’s a trend.

  26. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:21 PM

    duwaynebaird says: Dec 1, 2013 1:52 PM

    Why does OSU have to win convincingly against a team that’s in the Top 10 and has one of the nation’s top defenses? Is Michigan State not a “real” top 10 team?
    ————–

    Since Ohio State fans love to say that Clemson and Miami (before Johnson was injured) aren’t, then no.

  27. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Dec 1, 2013 3:21 PM

    Mr Wright

    I’m not sure why we would get 1st place votes either.

    We are however, no doubt, #2.

  28. iangas33 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:22 PM

    OSU has not played anyone the past two years. That’s all there is to it. If northern Illinois can go 12-0 it’s not surprising that the poisonous nuts are undefeated. The big 10 and PAC 12 will suffer tremendously under a playoff series. Looking forward to not seeing this crap program at the top in the future

  29. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:22 PM

    wallio says: Dec 1, 2013 1:34 PM

    it amazes me OSU is still up there. I’m sure the NCAA is going to love the 35 point spread for the NC Title game…..
    ——————-

    And the Noles would cover it with backups in there for the final 8-9 minutes of the 4th.

    Ohio fans are the last ones to realize that Braxton Miller is a poor man’s Tajh Boyd, and you have SEEN what we have done to Boyd over the years.

  30. thraiderskin says: Dec 1, 2013 3:24 PM

    Angel, I wasn’t counting The Game, there is nothing like it, I was looking at the season as a whole. If Ohio State goes to Indy and beats MSU by 10+, they deserve a shot at the NC. If they scrape by and Auburn puts it on Missouri, I think Auburn hops OSU, rightfully so. I actually don’t blame the Buckeyes for this, I blame the B1G. If the B1G would show up and not suck so bad, OSU would be a shoe in… there is just so much crap in this conference. Style points count and they will continue to matter going forward. I don’t need to see my Buckeyes get rolled on national TV, if they deserve to be in the NC then show it next week, pound the shit out of MSU.

  31. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Dec 1, 2013 3:27 PM

    Mr. Wright,

    No we haven’t? In fact, we have scored a record number of points. See my post above. Also, 1st 3 games no Heisman worthy running back, no All American DB for two of those games, AND three games without the preseason Heisman front runner.

    And I’m sorry, this was not the season our rival lost to an FCS school.

    FSU looks fantastic. They are easily the number one team. But c’mon, don’t let your hate for Urban mask common sense. You are much too intelligent for that kind of stuff.

  32. thraiderskin says: Dec 1, 2013 3:27 PM

    Mr. Wright… no FSU v. Florida couldn’t carry The Game’s jock strap.

  33. chachooga says: Dec 1, 2013 3:31 PM

    @theraiderskin

    And if Mizzou wins will u call it a Big12 championship?

    You SEC lovers are delusional.

  34. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Dec 1, 2013 3:31 PM

    Remember in 2006 when Ohio State looked unstoppable, had to Heisman winner, and was favored to kill Florida?

    Take note FSU fans.

  35. noffy32 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:32 PM

    Urban Meyer leaves NC game with another heart issue after FSU cleans their clock.

    Ohio State is a weak team in a even weaker conference.

  36. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:33 PM

    thraiderskin says: Dec 1, 2013 3:27 PM

    Mr. Wright… no FSU v. Florida couldn’t carry The Game’s jock strap.
    ————————-

    Don’t give me that. You struggled with Northwestern which won its first and ONLY conference game on the last week of the regular season, and struggled against the same Wisconsin team that lost to Penn State yesterday. Rivalry is rivalry. Ohio State deserves #2, but don’t make yourself look like a horse’s ass by trying to denigrate Florida State.

  37. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:34 PM

    angelheartsbuckeyes says: Dec 1, 2013 3:31 PM

    Remember in 2006 when Ohio State looked unstoppable, had to Heisman winner, and was favored to kill Florida?

    Take note FSU fans.
    —————–

    Except UF isn’t nearly as deep or talented as FSU.

    Next swing and miss?

  38. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:34 PM

    *wasn’t.

  39. chachooga says: Dec 1, 2013 3:36 PM

    As an FSU fan I hope OSU kills Mich. ST or loses….I don’t want them limping into BCS championship game and hearing for a month how great FSU is and. OSU has no chance….that never end well. Hype is never good no matter how good your team is. Guys lose focus and forget to take care of business.

    We gotta beat DUke first. It would be sweet to be ACC champs two years in a row again!

    And FSU vs UF is an awesome rivalry, not feeling the BIG10 guys love for holding jock straps?!!?

  40. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:38 PM

    And unlike that Michigan Ohio rivalry, almost ALL of these UF/FSU guys have known each other for most of their lives. That makes the rivalry as intense as it is for that Big Easy rivalry, which is mostly fan-centric.

  41. desal2ds says: Dec 1, 2013 3:40 PM

    The hairless nut school should blame themselves for their weak non conference schedule Not one big time program. This is why people are having a tough time putting them in NC game. Bill King called this before season started the hairless nuts schedule was very weak he could foresee them running the table by default of SEC beating up each other they get in NC game then we watch a repeat of last year. Embarrassment.

  42. iangas33 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:41 PM

    @angelheartsbuckeyes
    SHUT UP
    You have satan as your coach and OSU is a big fish in a small pond. You will fall just as notre same did last year. No one wants to see a game like that. The buckeyes are sooooo far from deserving its absurd. So once again y’all blow

    Sincerely,
    One pissed of University of Miami fan
    Destroy them FSU

  43. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Dec 1, 2013 3:49 PM

    I really hate having to repeatedly educate people. Non Conference schedules are made years in advance. Come see me when you schedule Texas, USC, and Oklahoma. Oh, and for a home and home, no just a one game in your backyard kinda thing.

    Mr. Wright. I try to keep it civil. I actually have two graduate degrees from FSU, so I have lots of love for the Noles. Don’t get all ‘swing and miss’ with me. Otherwise I’ll have to tell you to act like you been here before.

    Oh wait. That’s right.

  44. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2013 4:06 PM

    angelheartsbuckeyes says: Dec 1, 2013 3:49 PM

    I really hate having to repeatedly educate people. Non Conference schedules are made years in advance. Come see me when you schedule Texas, USC, and Oklahoma. Oh, and for a home and home, no just a one game in your backyard kinda thing.

    Mr. Wright. I try to keep it civil. I actually have two graduate degrees from FSU, so I have lots of love for the Noles. Don’t get all ‘swing and miss’ with me. Otherwise I’ll have to tell you to act like you been here before.

    Oh wait. That’s right.
    ————

    That’s right. I have. So yes, save it.

  45. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2013 4:06 PM

    iangas33 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:41 PM

    @angelheartsbuckeyes
    SHUT UP
    You have satan as your coach and OSU is a big fish in a small pond. You will fall just as notre same did last year. No one wants to see a game like that. The buckeyes are sooooo far from deserving its absurd. So once again y’all blow

    Sincerely,
    One pissed of University of Miami fan
    Destroy them FSU
    —————-

    I don’t blame you for 2001. Especially after the refs handed that game to Blowhio State.

  46. villain612 says: Dec 1, 2013 4:08 PM

    Aww look. A Miami fan still bitter about 2002.

  47. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Dec 1, 2013 4:13 PM

    Hey Miami fan, I’d be mad too if my players were too busy planning parties and not preparing for the actual game. I may also be a little passed if my team had a first and goal opportunity to go to the 4th OT and ssquandered it.

    I see why you’re mad. I just think your anger is a wee bit misplaced.

  48. sportsguy3434 says: Dec 1, 2013 5:01 PM

    OSU needs to have a solid win over MSU. If they would schedule a quality non conference opponent it would help their resume. They may get to the championship and not be one of the two best teams. See ND last year. That is what the BCS was supposed to help.

    Btw, people outside of the south are voting Auburn #1 so it is not just an SEC region school of thought.

  49. dkhhuey says: Dec 1, 2013 5:11 PM

    @iangas – Get over it – your team was all that and a bag of chips, were suppose to crush us, and you got your ass kicked!!! You had 4 chances from the 1 yard line to tie the score and the U couldn’t get it done! Ball game, end of story!!!

    Ohio State did the exact same thing against Florida! We were suppose to crush them, everybody said they didn’t deserve to be there, and after the first 7 seconds, kicked our ass all around the field! It hurt, it sucked, but we moved on!!!

    What I LOVE about this right now – if OSU takes care of business against MSU, the narrative will be IDENTICAL!!! OSU doesn’t deserve to be there, their schedule is weak, they’re going to get crushed – blah blah blah! We now have Urban Meyer as our coach and he will have OSU ready to eat their young just as he did with Florida!!!

    But first – we need to rough up Sparty and that game is ALWAYS a hard hitting close game!!!

  50. phillyphannnn83 says: Dec 1, 2013 5:25 PM

    UCF getting no love. How can they be ranked behind Louisville when they beat them heads up?

  51. chinahand11 says: Dec 1, 2013 7:45 PM

    iangas33 says:
    Dec 1, 2013 3:41 PM
    … yada yada hate OSU …
    Sincerely,
    One pissed of University of Miami fan
    Destroy them FSU

    Now that was funny, iangas33. I lol’d.

    However, if OSU and FSU end up undefeated, I say let them have at it in the NC. This is where computer rankings and style points can mess things up. I believe Nebraska went to the NC when they lost their CC one year, one of the first serious strikes against the BCS.

    Everyone keeps yammering about OSU barely beating UM on the last play, of course neglecting to give credence to the mysterious wildness of rivalry games such as the Game. Same with Ga-Ga Tech, SCAR-Clemson, and Bama-Au, Iron Bowl rivalry game that ended on the play of the century. (Boy I was tired when I went to bed after all those rivalry games).

    Last two unbeaten teams left on the playground, you would let them go for it, regardless how they got there. And although I’m a FSU fan, it is not a given they would smash OSU. I hope so though, and I can be civil about it. I only do three or four “ha ha we’re better than you” after we win.

    If one of those teams lose, go to the polls, do it that way. That’s my take. Some of it. Go Noles.

  52. realfootballfan says: Dec 1, 2013 11:31 PM

    atwatercrushesokoye,

    Don’t worry about that possibility. FSU will be there to cover their 50 point spread next week. I hope all these other teams keep talking because it’s meaningless. I learned that back when I was in school and we lost to Oklahoma amidst all the big talking. In between those lines will be where it’s decided, and I’m thinking our boys are ready.

  53. mediocrebob says: Dec 1, 2013 11:37 PM

    OSU hasn’t played anyone. MSU won’t change that. Offense is terrible. And if you want to use the whole “undefeated” argument, why wasn’t Northern Illinois playing for a NC last year against notre dame?

  54. 8to80texansblog says: Dec 3, 2013 1:49 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2013 3:38 PM

    And unlike that Michigan Ohio rivalry, almost ALL of these UF/FSU guys have known each other for most of their lives. That makes the rivalry as intense as it is for that Big Easy rivalry, which is mostly fan-centric.
    ___________________________

    You’re not seriously trying to say that UF v FSU is a bigger rivalry than Michigan/Ohio St. because the players know each other???

    Are you?

    Michigan has 24 players from Ohio on their team… and the distance between Tallahassee and Gainsville is 40 miles further than the distance between Columbus and Ann Arbor….

    Other than Alabama/Auburn, I don’t think there is a bigger CFB rivalry in the country….

  55. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 3, 2013 1:55 PM

    8to80texansblog says: Dec 3, 2013 1:49 PM

    You’re not seriously trying to say that UF v FSU is a bigger rivalry than Michigan/Ohio St. because the players know each other???

    Are you?
    —————–

    How about you answer your own question by going and CTRL+F to find “bigger” in my post.

    Now, as for the person who dismisses the UF/FSU rivalry as small change, the point is simply that you cannot use the “it’s a rivalry!” excuse for nearly losing to a team that is as bad as UF.

    Meanwhile, our game was over by halftime (yawn), with those UF guys pulling out every stop on both sides of the football.

  56. edcolton says: Dec 4, 2013 4:01 AM

    Same ole same ole. OSU beats 24 nobodies and they end up getting beat badly in Championship just like Notre Dame last year, who didn’t deserve to go.

    ’06 and ’07 games OSU beat badly by 2 SEC teams .1-10 record against SEC teams.
    Troy Smith gets mad at his team in front of millions because his line of squatty-bodies can’t keep defensive ends out of backfield.
    How about undefeated NIU in championship game? they are undefeated!

    Go Michigan State-crush the urban man and the other little ten team

  57. dkhhuey says: Dec 4, 2013 12:26 PM

    @ed – amazingly you forgot to include the 6 BCS bowl victories and focus on the 3 losses! Selective perception at its finest!!!

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