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Jameis Winston’s attorney knew from day one there would be no charges

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Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston avoided having charges form a state attorney’s office levied against him Thursday, but this was not at all a surprise for his attorney. Tim Jansen, speaking with the media outside a Florida courthouse, said he knew from the beginning his client, the Heisman Trophy leader guiding his team to a potential ACC championship and a spot in the BCS championship, would not be charged with any crime.

“I believed from day one, in December, that this was an act on consensual act between Mr. Winston and a young woman” Jansen said. “We believed it in December, we believed it in February and we believe it today.”

According to Jansen, Winston maintained all along he had done nothing wrong, at least in the legal sense. Being exonerated of charges at this point in time allows Winston to avoid a suspension. Winston and Florida State take on Duke in the ACC Championship Game this weekend in Charlotte, North Carolina. A win likely lock up a spot in the BCS Championship Game in January. Had Winston been charged, he would have likely been suspended until the legal process played out in full.

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  1. frank booth says: Dec 5, 2013 5:44 PM

    Well, it’s a good thing he said that a year later.

  2. dietrich43 says: Dec 5, 2013 5:46 PM

    I wouldn’t say that Jameis Winston was exonerated; he was not charged.

  3. blacknole08 says: Dec 5, 2013 5:52 PM

    Hell Stevie Wonder could see that this chick’s story was fabricated from the beginning.

  4. zaggs says: Dec 5, 2013 5:55 PM

    I wonder. Is the accuser’s boyfriend between 5-9 and 5-11 and weight about 240 pounds?

  5. cometkazie says: Dec 5, 2013 6:05 PM

    Who is paying Jansen?

  6. youcantmakemepickausername says: Dec 5, 2013 6:12 PM

    Five people and 18 chins at the press conference.

  7. realfootballfan says: Dec 5, 2013 6:13 PM

    dietrich43,

    No, he was exonerated. The report is public, all 86 pages of it. If you care to read it and see how much of a waste of time this really has been.

  8. BrownsTown says: Dec 5, 2013 6:14 PM

    Remember when defenders said it wasn’t him because he was 6’4″? Ball don’t like and neither does DNA evidence. The “explanations” keep evolving. It’s funny.

  9. thraiderskin says: Dec 5, 2013 6:15 PM

    Winston isn’t exonerated, but this is the closest thing he will get to it for now. Since this didn’t go to trial, there is no group of peers to say “not guilty.” Personally, I think there is a consistent situation when lady justice isn’t so blind and it happens to involve sexual assault and males. Again, just because a rape kit was used and DNA was found, doesn’t means a rape occurred. As a football fan, I’m excited to see this young man continue with his football life and excited to see what he can achieve in the years to come.

  10. jtinnon2009 says: Dec 5, 2013 6:20 PM

    So did I. So did Meggs. So did Jameis. So did Jimbo. So did FSU. It is northern Florida, you know? It is “panhandle justice.”

  11. broncoway33 says: Dec 5, 2013 6:26 PM

    “Remember when defenders said it wasn’t him because he was 6’4″? Ball don’t like and neither does DNA evidence. The “explanations” keep evolving. It’s funny.”

    Something smells about this in regards to the alleged victim. On one hand, she claimed that the person that raped her was 5 foot 9. That is a given. There is no real way to mistaken that for 6 foot 4. Then when his semen was certainly Jameis’s, then that was odd to me. Now, we know there is other DNA that is not Winston’s. Couple that with her not being able to remember, and the fact she was not on drugs or drunk. .04 is not drunk…..at all. That is like a half a glass of wine.

    The accuser’s story was not credible, and the police were right to warn her, since they are experienced in knowing what a fake story sounds like.

    Her aunt used the fact that the police showed her the ramifications for her client’s benefit. The way it was leaked and reported by typical boobs in th media was that the police tried to “protect an athlete.” She garnered public support to put pressure on the school to get an out of court settlement. It did not work. Now, they will not being going on with it, cause the girls claims are not measuring up with rape.

    Too bad so sad for the typical know it alls. We know who they are don’t we? Don’t we? Refer to the person that is politically correct about every issue if you do not know what type of person I am talking about.

  12. detectivejimmymcnulty says: Dec 5, 2013 6:48 PM

    BrownsTown says:
    Dec 5, 2013 6:14 PM

    Remember when defenders said it wasn’t him because he was 6’4″? Ball don’t like and neither does DNA evidence. The “explanations” keep evolving. It’s funny.

    There was DNA evidence because they had sex. Just because they had sex doesn’t make it a rape. Some people just want others to be guilty.

  13. imaduffer says: Dec 5, 2013 7:05 PM

    Now back to your local news. Next is weather with ………never mind.

  14. teambringitstrong says: Dec 5, 2013 7:11 PM

    detectivejimmymcnulty says: Dec 5, 2013 6:48 PM

    BrownsTown says:
    Dec 5, 2013 6:14 PM

    Remember when defenders said it wasn’t him because he was 6’4″? Ball don’t like and neither does DNA evidence. The “explanations” keep evolving. It’s funny.

    There was DNA evidence because they had sex. Just because they had sex doesn’t make it a rape. Some people just want others to be guilty.
    ————————————————————–@detectivejimmymcnulty

    Stupid has never lost an argument. Next people like BrownsTown will say Winston was born in Kenya.

  15. Deb says: Dec 5, 2013 7:33 PM

    jtinnon2009 says:

    So did I. So did Meggs. So did Jameis. So did Jimbo. So did FSU. It is northern Florida, you know? It is “panhandle justice.”
    ———————————————
    Probably shouldn’t touch this … but as a Florida native, I can’t resist.

    Hon, if you think a black guy getting exonerated for the sexual assault of a white girl is typical “panhandle justice” … you really don’t know much about North Florida or the Panhandle.

  16. bonniebengal says: Dec 5, 2013 7:36 PM

    I guessed from the moment Alabama lost on Saturday that the charges would go away. I think there were other issues driving this investigation. Somebody in Alabama didn’t want to play FSU (or at least Jameis Winston) in the championship game. Then Alabama blew it and a few days later the charges went away.

  17. Deb says: Dec 5, 2013 7:42 PM

    @bonniebengal …

    Oh please. Stick to the pros, girl. Nobody in Alabama was worried about playing FSU. There were no charges to go away. If you knew anything about Tallahassee, this case, what had gone on prior to this, you’d know why and how this thing blew up, and how it went away. But you don’t know anything except that Alabama lost the Iron Bowl so “WOW, that must be it.” :roll:

  18. bonniebengal says: Dec 5, 2013 7:50 PM

    @Deb: Hey that’s my conspiracy theory and I’m sticking to it. And I actually graduated from FSU so I wouldn’t say I know nothing about Tallahassee and the Panhandle. Lived there 6 years.

  19. frank booth says: Dec 5, 2013 7:54 PM

    6 years of college right down the drain.

  20. Deb says: Dec 5, 2013 8:04 PM

    Hey, I was paying you a compliment there. Your posts on PFT are usually reasonable sound.

    As a native Floridian and lifelong Bama with family in Tuscaloosa and close to the program, I’m pretty well tuned in. Bama wasn’t worried about Winston. The only thing Bama should have been worried about was kick returns.

    Have you followed this story? The woman reported this thing last December when Alabama was on the way to its third title in four years, and no one was worrying about FSU. This was a ticking time bomb from the minute the girl filed the complaint and the cops shoved it in a drawer without taking care of business. Once Winston became a star, it was only a matter of time before some reporter dug it out. Too many people knew about it.

    I’m glad you think the University of Alabama has so much influence on prosecutors in Florida. But they don’t. What made this case go away was the complete lack of evidence, as demonstrated just by what’s been posted here on CFT. Based on his reputation, if Meggs could have built a case, he would have. In his interview with “Outside the Lines” tonight, he did his best to imply he’s not satisfied that Winston is innocent. This has nothing to do with football rivalries and everything to do with a hungry media and an ambitious prosecutor. Some people just love to live on the grassy knoll when it comes to other successful football programs.

  21. crazyfootballfun says: Dec 5, 2013 8:23 PM

    The truth is that we will never know what really happened. The young lady could be lying or it could be Winston who is lying. We will never know. Those who are making a gigantic deal out of her not knowing how tall he was….please….she was not in a good situation to know, and it is all guesswork….if you are not standing side by side someone and know exactly how tall one person is for comparison sake, you are just throwing out figures. She was not wrong, was she, that she had sex with the guy….what is debated is was it consensual or not. I have a hard time with his defense team at some point talking about how drunk she was….well how could her consent have been given if she was as toasted as they said she was. Once the DNA confirmed some things, they stopped talking about how drunk she was. I don’t know what happened….neither does anyone but the 2..and whoever was lying i hope gets exactly what they deserve.

  22. bonniebengal says: Dec 5, 2013 8:27 PM

    @deb: I know the case, but I always wondered why all of this didn’t come back up until Jameis was doing very, very well this year. It was supposed to be closed last year. Then he starts playing like a super hero and the case comes back up. However, It’s true I know much more about the NFL than college football.

  23. Deb says: Dec 5, 2013 8:31 PM

    @bonniebengal …

    They say Urban fed the story to TMZ when Bama was #1, FSU was #2, and Ohio State was #3 ;)

  24. arnie7781 says: Dec 5, 2013 9:10 PM

    @crazy – we DO know the truth because there were witnesses to the sex act. “Victim’s” story is that she does not remember, but blood work shows she was not intoxicated and she did not have any drugs in her system. So why can’t she remember? Regret is not rape. “Victim” also stated she “blacked out” and may “have been hit in the head.” Rape kit results disprove this all. We know the truth. Open your eyes.

  25. remarcer says: Dec 5, 2013 9:31 PM

    The dog gets one free bite, so watch out for the next one.

  26. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Dec 5, 2013 10:00 PM

    one thing that’s clear from the released material…the accuser can multi-task…the whole time she was “blacking out” and “being raped” she was also snapping off an awful lot of text messages

    #impressive

  27. jdillydawg says: Dec 5, 2013 10:05 PM

    I hate to nit-pick here, but this headline is bogus. Nowhere does the attorney say he believed charges would never be filed. He talks a lot about what he believed – i.e. he believed it was consensual and he believed it from month to month.

    But where does he come out and say he “knew” charges would never be filed? I know a lot of attorneys who believe their clients but still worry charges could be filed during the investigative process.

    I think poetic license is supposed to be reserved for fiction. But then again, if you’re reading this in Costco, maybe it fits perfectly.

    Just sayin’…

  28. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Dec 5, 2013 10:14 PM

    Exhibit 2E:
    The DNA profile obtained from the face swabs (Exhibit 2E) demonstrated the presence of a mixture.
    Assuming two donors to the mixture, a partial DNA profile foreign to 119.071 (2)(n (Exhibit 2A) was
    obtained from the face swabs (Exhibit 2E). This partial foreign DNA profile is consistent with the partial
    foreign DNA profile obtained from the panties (Exhibit 3).

    page 60
    http://www.talgov.com/uploads/public/documents/assets/news/tpd-documents.pdf

  29. ukeone says: Dec 5, 2013 11:41 PM

    @ becauseisaysothatswhy

    Thank You! Finally, someone is talking sensibly in this thread!

  30. jhagman99 says: Dec 6, 2013 12:32 AM

    Gatorfan had this all pegged from the start.

    And Vladimir Putin is spending his summer vacation in San Francisco.

  31. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Dec 6, 2013 7:41 AM

    jhagman99

    Gatorfan1 aka Georgia Southern CSI-SVU aka Marcia Clark 2.0

  32. gatorfan1 says: Dec 6, 2013 9:17 AM

    jhagman99, becauseisaysothatswhy:

    I ended up being absolutely right on the facts. She wasn’t drunk AND she had absolutely no relationship to Winston, before or after. Based on that I thought he would be charged, I also said he would not be found guilty in court. Plus, I also said the only 2 witnesses were football players, how convenient! She also, according to witness “didn’t want to be double teamed” when the roommate conveniently came in. So there would be no need for her to be embarrassed, kids have sex on college campuses all the time. ummm.

    The lawyer for Winston said “one night stand”.

    So she wasn’t upset about a girlfriend coming into town like everyone said. Now, supposedly she posted, “wanting to do an FSU football player” through “cleatchasers” which I guess she did, but then claimed rape. Puzzling.

    Also, nice to know that Winston and his roommate like to “cross swords” and train females and had done it numerous times before, as was stated in statement.

    There was not enough evidence to proceed, so the case is over. People can decide for themselves what really happened.

    I never cared about the charges because this was going to be hard to prove, only the factual real reports.

  33. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Dec 6, 2013 9:35 AM

    Gatorfan1 aka Georgia Southern CSI-SVU aka Marcia Clark 2.0

    You weren’t right about anything…you made a few guesses that “to you” seem somehow close to a few things that actually happened.

    Wasn’t up for being double teamed? She tested positive for more than one “donors” DNA on her face…read the 86 page report before you break your arm patting yourself on the back or give yourself a reach around Sherlock…

    There’s no evidence of rape, at all…she was texting while blacking out, while being raped? And gave her friends and the police multiple versions of what happened….while not being intoxicated or on drugs….and all of her texts; before, during and after the alleged incident somehow never mention rape…

    keep your day job Inspector Clouseau…

  34. gatorfan1 says: Dec 6, 2013 10:39 AM

    becauseisaysothatswhy:

    “you made a few guesses that “to you” seem somehow close to a few things that actually happened.” Instead of making a general statement, tell me EXACTLY where I was wrong, in my last post.

    Let’s see about YOUR “guesses”. No previous relationship as you stated, no picture that you posted, no “witness” who was “her” friend present as you stated. No FB pictures showing Winston & suspect together as you stated, no texts to him before or after as you stated. No on the theory she was “upset” with girlfriend coming to town. Nice deductive reasoning Sherlock!

    I may add ” several bruises began to appear on victim” (pg 19).

    Also, Sherlock, both roommates were “excluded” from the DNA. So no “gang banging” by teammate as you stated. Who by the way said there was “no gang banging” so you are wrong AGAIN! Casher stated “he went into
    the room to see if the female would engage in sexual activity with him as well (as has happened with
    other females he and Winston have brought back to their apartment); however, the female saw him and
    told him to get out”(Casher pg 85). Nice!!

    Plus, no evidence of “texting” during event. Look above for all your faulty generalizations, AGAIN.

    The 2nd DNA match was her boyfriend. And nothing in any report says he was anywhere near the event. So he had sex with her earlier in the day. Pretty common on a college campus.

    The bottom line is I was a whole lot closer than you on this. Deal with it!

    I would tell you to keep your day job, but with your deductive reasoning skills, it’s hard to believe you actually have one!!

  35. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Dec 6, 2013 11:23 AM

    Gatorfan1 aka Georgia Southern CSI-SVU aka Marcia Clark 2.0

    It’s common on a college campus to have multiple sex partners daily? And to still have their DNA, on your face, hours later? Is that a Gator thing, Gatorfan? Something unique to Gainesville?

    I was never playing detective like you. I repetitiously kept saying that we only knew two things, both due to leaked info to the media:

    1. They had intercourse

    2. Winston’s DNA tested positive

    That everything else beyond that was total speculation.

    Yes, I posted a link to a picture that was supposed to be the two of them together long before it was alleged to not be her. And when it was pointed out to not be her I owned the mistake…

    I never said anything about or used the term “gang bang” in any of my posts. I did say that more than one male provided DNA, that’s it. If more than one male provides DNA you can make your own assumptions.

    Yes, there’s a lapse in texts of about 50 minutes but all texts prior to & after lapse are clearly business as usual…nothing about being raped or help me, just looking for I.D., money etc…so are you saying she conveniently blacked out for approx. 50 minutes to be raped then suddenly, miraculously recovered and it was back to business as usual?

    The bottom line is that I consistently stated that we knew only two things nothing else while you were all over the place and still are….

    Your position was that he was guilty…how’d that work out for you Nostradamus? How close were you on that one?

    Enjoy your bowl game.

  36. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Dec 6, 2013 11:35 AM

    Gatorfan1 aka Georgia Southern CSI-SVU aka Marcia Clark 2.0

    Regarding the bruising your clinging to ever so tightly…page 51

    redness on knees and the top of her left foot. She also noted brown bruises on .. left knee and on her right elbow.

    She appeared to be very tired , but lucid (not
    intoxicated).

    OK….bruises on knees is consistent with collecting DNA on face…elbows is consistent with being on all fours possibly face down.

    Tired, lucid, not intoxicated…sounds about right.

    All worn out from collecting all that DNA…

  37. gatorfan1 says: Dec 6, 2013 11:52 AM

    becauseisaysothatswhy:

    O’, You cut me to the quick. You “conveniently”
    are changing facts, again! Everything I listed are things YOU said or passed along as “fact”!

    The bottom line is you’re not smart enough to make an “educated” guess on your own and just follow the crowd! Likely because you so “desperately” want to identify with a jock or team. You know a “wannabe”, something you accuse the supposed victim of being. Maybe you should join the “cleatchasers” club and see what players you can “bang” too.

    At least I can independently look at something and see that most things being said were rumors. Why couldn’t you? You’re incapable, or as I suspect, not smart enough to actually have “your” own thought and have other people provide those to you! Good luck succeeding in life, when you grow up.

    Also, I said he would be found innocent. You’re really good at finding posts, go look!

  38. gatorfan1 says: Dec 6, 2013 12:12 PM

    becauseisaysothatswhy:

    This is going to get crude, but here goes. Most guys favorite position is the girl on all fours. Was married many years and with other people. Never once, did anyone have bruising on elbows, however, that is very consistent with being held down.

    Also, DNA on face was not Winston. Only in shorts. Girl and boyfriend had sex, that’s the DNA on face. The report would have identified Winston’s DNA on face and did not.

    Again, you want to muddy the waters with hasty generalizations. The bottom line, no charges and the case is over. No matter what either of us say, no one is going to change opinion based on what we blog back & forth. I’m done and moving forward. You may want to do the same.

  39. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Dec 6, 2013 12:23 PM

    Gatorfan1 aka Georgia Southern CSI-SVU aka Marcia Clark 2.0

    Exhibit 2E:
    The DNA profile obtained from the face swabs (Exhibit 2E) demonstrated the presence of a mixture.
    Assuming two donors to the mixture, a partial DNA profile foreign to 119.071 (2)(n (Exhibit 2A) was
    obtained from the face swabs (Exhibit 2E). This partial foreign DNA profile is consistent with the partial
    foreign DNA profile obtained from the panties (Exhibit 3).

    page 60
    http://www.talgov.com/uploads/public/documents/assets/news/tpd-documents.pdf

  40. becauseisaysothatswhy says: Dec 6, 2013 12:32 PM

    Gatorfan1 aka Georgia Southern CSI-SVU aka Marcia Clark 2.0

    regarding your post about making an educated guess…how cavalier to balance a person’s freedom, reputation etc…on your hypothesis…especially when you don’t even have 10% of the total facts to base your hypothesis on…you’re a legend in your own mind…

    All I did was wait for all the information and try to consistently remind all that we only knew two things:

    1. They had intercourse

    2. Winston’s DNA tested positive

    Everything else was you doing something other than constantly masturbating…

    Regarding you & your wife and her not bruising…I seriously doubt you or any man really would notice to begin with and /or you just hit it like a sissy. Either way a non-issue. And bruising on elbows is consistent with being held down? Since when? Where is that located in the report? When your BF holds you down & your elbows bruise?

  41. floridascuba1 says: Dec 6, 2013 2:33 PM

    I will say she lied. And it will come from the statements from her legal counsel blaming the TPD. Legal was saying TPD said she was drunk and the toxicology records proved she was not. However, it was the opposite. TPD said didn’t appear drunk, and toxicology proved them right. She claimed she couldn’t remember. However, nothing showed she was drugged.

  42. realfootballfan says: Dec 6, 2013 5:27 PM

    floridascuba1,

    Yea, she lied. She went into a tall tale that got out of hand when she got back to where she lives, and her friend called the police out of concern for her after hearing that your good friend was raped. I don’t know why people have a hard time calling this what it is. Nothing she said to investigators was borne out in the evidence from the heavily drinking being contradicted by the toxicology reports to the blackout scenario that isn’t supported by the toxicology reports either to the crazy notion that a rape victim would be blowing her rapist and getting their DNA all over her face. If the evidence supported Winston having done something, people sure wouldn’t have had a problem with saying that, so why so light on what this is, someone taking a lie too far?

  43. broncoway33 says: Dec 7, 2013 7:07 AM

    realfootballfan says:
    Dec 6, 2013 5:27 PM
    floridascuba1,

    “Yea, she lied. She went into a tall tale that got out of hand when she got back to where she lives, and her friend called the police out of concern for her after hearing that your good friend was raped. I don’t know why people have a hard time calling this what it is. Nothing she said to investigators was borne out in the evidence from the heavily drinking being contradicted by the toxicology reports to the blackout scenario that isn’t supported by the toxicology reports either to the crazy notion that a rape victim would be blowing her rapist and getting their DNA all over her face. If the evidence supported Winston having done something, people sure wouldn’t have had a problem with saying that, so why so light on what this is, someone taking a lie too far?”

    —————————————–

    Bingo. The know it all Gator fans showing what they are all about. They PRETEND to care so much for the victim.

    They are just looking for a Nole star player and massive sanctions so their school gets all of the recruits.

    They will deny that fact. Why? Cause they are Gator fans.

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