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Report: Saban will be next Texas coach

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A reporter for the Fort Worth Telegram tweeted on Tuesday night that, according to a source close to the University of Texas executive council of regents, Nick Saban will indeed make the jump to Austin to replace Mack Brown as the Longhorns head coach.

Here’s the tweet:

https://twitter.com/FollowtheFrogs/status/410570386753875968

Now, before Alabama fans make the move to Defcon 1, keep in mind that this report could merely reflect the confidence that the council of regents has in its ability to woo a coach with a big pot of money. It could also be another trial balloon to see how Saban reacts.

Or, it could be true.

It certainly doesn’t jibe with this tidbit, though Gil Brandt may not be the most reliable source for this kind of news, either:

Our guess: Something is going on. Brown is probably leaving Texas in the next couple days and the Longhorns are going to try to move heaven and earth to get Saban. But it’s probably far from a done deal at this point.

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  1. blacknole08 says: Dec 10, 2013 9:42 PM

    Not surprised or shocked.

  2. be4bama says: Dec 10, 2013 9:44 PM

    Yawn

  3. jrs45 says: Dec 10, 2013 9:47 PM

    Lmao!

  4. suprmous says: Dec 10, 2013 9:48 PM

    I’m still lookin forward to the day that all of those “devoted” Saban fans will enjoy the crow they’ll be eatin on when they discover this guy’s not all he appears to be. Tell me again that he’s only human, he’s settled in T-town, and the list goes on and I’ll continue to remind you of what he’s done by slitherin out of everywhere else he’s ever been and the antics of what he’s done and we’ll see who’s list glows more in the dark. Seems to me you see a reoccurin pattern you’d begin to take notice of somethin but not those that feel Saban’s above it all. Eventually when the smoke’s cleared I have to wonder if they’ll ever see a smidgen of what some of the rest of us have come to know. Just sayin.

  5. fissels says: Dec 10, 2013 9:48 PM

    It would be great for Texas football.

  6. lbijake says: Dec 10, 2013 9:50 PM

    From one obnoxious group of fans to another. Another day, same channel.

  7. tigers182 says: Dec 10, 2013 9:53 PM

    It’s about time Saban thought of himself instead of the program first.

  8. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 9:53 PM

    Buzz is Saban and his wife don’t feel appreciated.

    Which is strange, if the SEC fans are known for anything, it’s appreciating what the coaches do and giving the programs a reasonable opinion.

    Signed,
    Les Miles

  9. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 9:56 PM

    But seriously.

    There’s a HUGE difference in Alabama fan base to Texas fan base.

    Resources go way up, pressure comes way down, and the media/fan relations will be much easier.

    Sad, but it really makes sense for Saban.

  10. thefiesty1 says: Dec 10, 2013 9:57 PM

    Saban – NOT gonna happen!

  11. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:01 PM

    thefiesty1 says: Dec 10, 2013 9:57 PM

    Saban – NOT gonna happen!

    ________

    Says the guy nobody gives a crap what he says.

  12. thefiesty1 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:03 PM

    Oh my, there’s bender back on the site to spout off about someone else’s post. I thought he disappeared.

  13. dmcgrann says: Dec 10, 2013 10:03 PM

    suprmous, what are you? A cowboy poet?

  14. drummerhoff says: Dec 10, 2013 10:08 PM

    I guess they couldn’t get Malzahn.

  15. jacobamopars says: Dec 10, 2013 10:09 PM

    And anyone who is actually surprised to be reading that this is very possible are those who also believe on unicorns and rainbows and all those other things that aren’t really pure after all!!! This slimeball has done this wherever he’s been and it’s almost funny that it’s taken this long for it all to come out!! Just really think Texas is making a big mistake by hiring him and they will live to regret it!! Of coarse on the other hand he’s just like his counterpart at Ohio State leaving a program that’s starting to go downhill for a program that has no where to go but up with all the crooked recruiting that has gone on at Ohio State and will be going on at Texas now that Saban the “CHEATER” is headed there!! Can only hope he also ends up eating SH!T like mr heart attack at Ohio State and gets to the top only to fall on his face when it counts!!!!!All I can say is GOOD RIDDANCE SABAN, take your sideshow on with you to Texas and away from the SEC where you won’t be missed at all!!!!

  16. sportsfan18 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:10 PM

    Nothing better than Saban leaving for Texas could happen to all the classy Bama fans!

  17. realfootballfan says: Dec 10, 2013 10:10 PM

    suprmous,

    It’s a job. If he chooses to leave (which I’ll believe when I see it), it’s his right. “Slithering out of everywhere he’s been?” Get a grip. If Texas pays more money, and that’s what is important to him (I know it’s important to most of us) and he sees it as a viable fit, why wouldn’t or shouldn’t he? Or maybe you think he should still be working in Lansing? People are such hypocrites on this subject because most people move to different jobs all the time for various reasons; I know I have several times and haven’t looked back.

  18. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:11 PM

    Hey Fiesty,

    I get it, you are mad that I called you out for stupidly calling Ohio State’s win “lucky” to defend Auburn.

    I’m still laughing about that.

    But please, tell us the opposite of what nearly everyone is saying is happening on Twitter. People who actually know people, are paid, and actively work in this business.

  19. BPKay says: Dec 10, 2013 10:12 PM

    People really should watch the movie War Games more often, DEFCON 5 is the lowest alert level.

  20. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:13 PM

    Plenty of Alabama fans are gonna turn back into Texas fan again.

    I wondered where all the Horn fans went.

  21. drummerhoff says: Dec 10, 2013 10:14 PM

    Somebody tweet a “report” that Bama’s got a second crack at landing Rich Rod.

  22. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:17 PM

    RichRod?? hahaha

    Good one.

    But seriously, let’s get the talk going. Who does Alabama buy I mean hire?

    Urban? Urban looked pretty annoyed losing to a team better than his. Plus, the SEC West was the toughest division, the Pac-12 N/S was the 3rd and 4th, and the 5th was the SEC East. Yet nobody even considered Ohio State for the title game after MSU pasted them.

    Pete Carroll? hahaha Just kidding.

  23. mantastic54 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:17 PM

    Defcon 5 isn’t a threat

  24. Joe Chapp says: Dec 10, 2013 10:17 PM

    Reblogged this on M-1 Sports and commented:
    Interesting all things from Texas not a Detroit or Michigan article but this is becoming a bigger story

  25. gfj7000 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:18 PM

    I don’t believe tweets, twitters, & other below the belt rumors = Look what happened to Mack Brown’s rumor mill today – First – he’s stepping down, then he’s back-in recruiting in Florida, then he’s out – then he’s in. Ugh!

  26. jacobamopars says: Dec 10, 2013 10:19 PM

    I see all the big baby saban fans a hating on my last post!!!

  27. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:21 PM

    Don’t believe Twitter gfj?

    Ok, well while you are out of the loop, you can go on thinking people who are talking to people who know what is up are not telling everyone they can.

    You don’t like Twitter but post here, CFT has posted stories that were denied later, and CFT posts things a bit later than Twitter. Just the nature of the social media.

  28. WingT says: Dec 10, 2013 10:22 PM

    I can see Saban going to Texas. He is still young enough to put his “Process” in place there and reap the rewards. He could win a NC at Texas and go down in history as the greatest college coach of all time having won NC’s at three different schools, LSU, Alabama and Texas.

    He would get a break from the pressure that he currently is under. He has won NC 3 out of the past 4 years. Anything short of a NC is being considered as a “bad’ year. The pressure to win it all right now is tremendous on him. He would get a break from it by going to Texas. He needs relief from the pressure – nobody can continue at the pace he has set and I don’t see him getting relief from it unless he moves on the Texas.

    His wife, Terry, said something a few weeks ago about how un-appreciated they were – she basically took fans of Alabama to task for the unrealistic expectations that were being set. I thought her comments were bazaar, but now I think I understand them better. Saban is coming home at night miserable because of the pressure to win it all.

    Alabama administration is scrambling to show him how much they appreciate him by paying him 7M a year. It may be too little too late.

    I would hate to see him leave Alabama, but I can understand why he might need to do it.

    He needs a break and he’s not going to get it unless he changes scenery. I’ll be suprised if he stays at Bama

    roll tide

  29. thegamecocker says: Dec 10, 2013 10:23 PM

    Can Kirby Smart handle the ‘Bama job? I don’t know but Saban has delivered 3 Nat’l. Championships to The Tide. He’s earned the right to do whatever he wants. I would hate to lose him from the SEC because he brings excellence to the conference and obviously to the teams he coaches. Texas has a lot of resources (meaning money) so he could be giving it serious consideration. If so, I would think Kirby Smart would / could replace him.

  30. Deb says: Dec 10, 2013 10:28 PM

    @suprmous …

    What realfootballfan said … which was excellent :)

  31. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:28 PM

    They won’t hire Kirby Gamecocker.

    They’ll hire a proven head coach. Kirby will get a job at a smaller school.

  32. Deb says: Dec 10, 2013 10:29 PM

    @bender4700 …

    If Nick goes to Texas, the Alabama fans are going to turn back into Texas fans again??

    Dude, what are you smokin’?

    I’d say the only time I could have been a Texas fan was when sperm was swimming around egg, but that was Tide sperm.

  33. rodge1 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:31 PM

    So does this mean that Alabama fans will make another petition to the NCAA?

  34. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:32 PM

    Deb,

    I’m making fun of the band wagon fans who were wearing burnt orange in the early 2000’s then suddenly were saying roll tide recently.

  35. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:33 PM

    rodge1 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:31 PM

    So does this mean that Alabama fans will make another petition to the NCAA?

    ________

    +1000 thumbs up. I literally laughed out loud on that. Good job.

  36. thefiesty1 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:36 PM

    @bender4700…. What? Ohio State and Auburn? As Deb said, What have you been smoking?

    Saban won’t be coming to Texas unless Bama balks on 7-8 million to match anything the arrogant Texas alumni think they can come up with.

  37. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:41 PM

    Fiesty,

    I don’t expect you to acknowledge the dumb things you do.

    Match? This isn’t restricted free agency. Nick isn’t going to go to the Bama administration and go “Hey guys, I got this offer…”

    Not how it works.

    Again, you have NO clue how this stuff works. You have terrible reasoning skills. You think Bama is gonna BID for Saban?! Please. You need to smoke something.

  38. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:46 PM

    This didn’t happen over night.

    People associated with Saban (agents), and people associated with Texas have been talking for months.

    This is not hard to figure out folks.

    You think these wild stories come out for no reason?!

    No, they come out because someone, who knows what’s up, tells someone in the media. You see “source” and report because then the people in the know, STAY IN THE KNOW.

    This story broke awhile ago. It’s just had to wait out the timeline.

    Plus, some of these stories don’t pan out because they come out too soon. See Les Miles and Michigan. He was going to take the job. But Herstreit and Michigan’s unwillingness to let him coach the title game ruined that.

  39. BrownsTown says: Dec 10, 2013 10:46 PM

    Does Tom Al-Betar have any Austin area locations?

  40. WingT says: Dec 10, 2013 10:51 PM

    Saban is a very smart, always calculating guy. He loves to play the percentages and right now he is weighing which is better for him, stay at Alabama or pack up and mosey on over to Texas.

    If he stays at Alabama he has no where to go but down. Why? because he won 3 out of the last 5 NC ( this years NC game still to be played) and how is he going to top that? Win 3 out of the next 4 years? He has already done that once. The percentages / stats says it is highly unlikely that he will do that at Alabama. He himself said that it is much harder to repeat as a NC than it is to get there the first time.

    At Texas he will have a couple of years to build his process and he will probably win a couple more NC’s before he retires. He will be seating in the hottest recruiting arear of the country and will be able to get any Texas recruit he wants – he can’t do that at Alabama.

    adios

  41. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:52 PM

    I posted this in the other topic, but feel it works here too.

    This is a power thing. Texas has unlimited resources. People, again Texas has UNLIMITED resources. That’s not hyperbole. It’s a real statement.

    Their alumni base, donors, boosters, is unreal. Unmatched.

    It’s NOT COMPLICATED.

    Imagine working somewhere extremely high pressured. But get paid a lot. Then imagine a financially stronger company, with not nearly the stress or pressure calls, says they’ll offer you literally whatever you want.

    What would you do?

  42. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:53 PM

    Amen WingT.

    Saban gets restless, quickly.

  43. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 10:57 PM

    Just to make it clear, of course it’s possible Saban doesn’t go to Texas.

    It just looks very very much like he is.

    Texas doesn’t push Mack Brown out without at least a little bit of a plan for his replacement. They don’t want to end up like USC.

  44. 13datsyuk13 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:00 PM

    I think everyone is missing something here. ESPN runs college football. ESPN has a lot of money tied up in the longhorn network and would really like to see it succeed. 8-4 doesn’t get more cable companies to carry the longhorn network. When you talk about Texas’ resources and ability to lure Saban, money is only the tip of the iceberg. ESPN needs Texas playing for national championships.
    Mack, we will forever be grateful for your time in Austin. I personally wish you were able to leave on your own but Texas lost its good ol boy attitude when the network moved in. Guadalupe should be renamed Mack Brown Ave. Thanks for all the great memories Mack. The Rose Bowl against USC is still the greatest game I have ever watched.

  45. WingT says: Dec 10, 2013 11:00 PM

    Bender,
    Saban is a relentless, highly driven machine. He always wants to improve. He can’t improve on the perfection he delivered at Alabama – he has to find a way out and get to Austin. He would like to try and find a way to do it with minimal negativity – good luck with that.

    But I can’t be angry with him if he moves on. I have greatly enjoyed the last 3 NC he brought to Bama – that was fun.

    roll tide

  46. Deb says: Dec 10, 2013 11:01 PM

    @bender4700 …

    Had my first real experience with bandwagon fans last week. A friend was whooping for Auburn and I’d never heard him mention Auburn before. He told me he’s a fan of “lots” of teams and right now it’s Auburn. Really? How convenient. LOL

  47. coltzfan166 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:01 PM

    I sincerely doubt this report is true

  48. thefiesty1 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:04 PM

    Oh, NOW it’s possible that Saban doesn’t go to Texas. Oops! Mack hasn’t left, yet, although he should before Patterson fires him.

  49. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:09 PM

    “ESPN has a lot of money tied up in the longhorn network ”

    They have even more $$$ in the SEC.

  50. tigersfandan says: Dec 10, 2013 11:11 PM

    If Saban leaves, we’ll find out if Kirby Smart really was, in effect, the coach-in-waiting.

  51. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:11 PM

    Exactly Wing.

    Austin is FAR more inviting to a guy like Saban who demands that everyone respect him and treat him like he wants to be treated. Massive ego.

    Saban won 3 titles, and still gets criticized in Tuscaloosa. That wouldn’t happen in Austin.

    You hit the nail on the head.

  52. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:12 PM

    thefiesty1 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:04 PM

    Oh, NOW it’s possible that Saban doesn’t go to Texas. Oops! Mack hasn’t left, yet, although he should before Patterson fires him.

    ______

    What the heck are you talking about? Do you still think my “not gonna happen” comment was serious?!

    You’re drunk. Go home.

    Not even smart enough to see I was making fun of you. Quite well I might add.

  53. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:14 PM

    I just don’t see it tigersfandan.

    They’ll likely hire a name. They would be taking a massive risk in hiring an unproven coordinator.

    One thing to hire a guy who is a coordinator but was a head coach at the highest level. But another to hire Kirby.

  54. Deb says: Dec 10, 2013 11:14 PM

    Saban wouldn’t get criticized in Austin? Oh, I must meet these Stepford fans.

    There isn’t a football fan alive who doesn’t criticize.

  55. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:16 PM

    Deb says: Dec 10, 2013 11:01 PM

    @bender4700 …

    Had my first real experience with bandwagon fans last week. A friend was whooping for Auburn and I’d never heard him mention Auburn before. He told me he’s a fan of “lots” of teams and right now it’s Auburn. Really? How convenient. LOL

    _________

    Yeah, I know a guy who stopped being a Red Sox fan when they stunk, and became a Cardinals fan. His reasoning made no sense.

    College Football has a lot of floater fans. They float from team to team over the course of a couple years based on who’s doing good.

  56. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:18 PM

    vDeb says: Dec 10, 2013 11:14 PM

    Saban wouldn’t get criticized in Austin? Oh, I must meet these Stepford fans.

    There isn’t a football fan alive who doesn’t criticize.

    ________

    Not on the same level. I didn’t say he wouldn’t get critized at all, it just won’t be nearly as bad as it is now in Bama, where he’s won 3 national titles.

    The media and fans are way different in Austin.

    He’d still have pressure and expectations, but look at this year, he loses ONE game on a fluke play and he’s been taking shots for 2 weeks.

  57. WingT says: Dec 10, 2013 11:26 PM

    Bender,
    I seriously don’t think that Saban listens to critics. He could care less what they say. He is driven to win and right now he needs a break from the pressure. The SEC competition is off the charts. Any given Saturday and one slip up could cost him a chance to win it all. He won’t have the same pressure and level of competition in the Big 12.

    The pressure got to him in the Auburn game. He made a bad bad mistake to not kick the field goal when they were on the 15 yard line late in the game with 4 minutes left. It would have iced the game at that point if Bama kicks the field goal and goes up by 10. If he had no confidence in his senior kicker he could have used the red-shirt freshman – no matter what, he should have tried the 25 yards field goal. That decision has to be killing him. He knows that he messed up.

    Maybe the last ditch effort by the administration to pay him 7M will keep him at Bama – I sure hope so but I doubt it

  58. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:27 PM

    Did you see him in his pressers lately?

    I’m not saying he’s listening, but it still annoys him.

  59. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:28 PM

    FOX Sports Live ‏@FOXSportsLive 31s

    Per @ChipBrownOB, Nick Saban isn’t the only big name in play for the #Longhorns. Urban Meyer. Mike Tomlin. Jim Harbaugh. David Shaw.

    IT JUST GOT INTERESTING…er

  60. thekingpeter31 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:32 PM

    Can’t wait for bama fan to break their TV sets

  61. WingT says: Dec 10, 2013 11:32 PM

    It annoys him because he is a perfectionist and its eating him up – he doesn’t need a nerdy reporter to remind him of his mistakes :)

    I love Saban. I think he is by far and away the greatest college football coach of all time – much better than Bear Bryant, and that’s saying alot. I am only basing this on his ability to coach, not his loyality

  62. coolhorn46 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:33 PM

    I think Nick Saban understands that while UT fans would expect him to put UT in play for championships in a reasonable time, he would NOT be expected to win a championship every year. He would be expected to change the culture of entitlement that Mack Brown has fostered at UT, and there is NO doubt that he would do that, and quickly. Even if he won no championships in Austin, and only coached there five or six years, there’s no doubt he’d leave the team in much better shape than he’s getting it, and that would work just fine with UT fans.

    I’m a Longhorn fan, and I would love for the reports of him already being contracted to come to Austin to be true. However, nothing’s a done deal until the ink is dry on the contract, and I think I’ll hold off on celebrating anything until Saban holds his first press conference dressed in a burnt orange golf shirt.

  63. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:34 PM

    Exactly Wing, that’s why he’s looking at Austin. More resources, less annoying reporters.

    And best ever? Come on…That’s a bit much. He’s good, one of the best, but not tops. Homer bias a little? :P

  64. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:35 PM

    Amen Coolhorn

  65. WingT says: Dec 10, 2013 11:37 PM

    Bender,
    Yes, I firmly believe he is by far and away the best college coach of all time. I didn’t say he was the most loved, lol

  66. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:38 PM

    “His wife, Terry, said something a few weeks ago about how un-appreciated they were – she basically took fans of Alabama to task for the unrealistic expectations ” WingT

    Just want everyone to catch that point.

    Alabama fans are demanding National Title every year.

    Texas fan doesn’t even come close to demanding that.

    Come on… Saban’s choice is simple.

  67. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:39 PM

    That’s ok WingT.

    I think that way about Tom Osborne. Because of where he did it at, how he did it, and how nobody has done it since.

  68. WingT says: Dec 10, 2013 11:42 PM

    Coolhorn,
    You’re missing the point about Saban. He is not going to go to any school and be happy unless he is winning it all and doing it quickly. There is no way he is going to sit back and be satisfied with ‘almost” winning a NC. He is driven and he could care less about what Texas fans or Alabama fans and LSU fans think about him.

    Saban is not angry at the high expectations that Alabama fans has toward winning- hell, he has the same goals.

  69. realfootballfan says: Dec 10, 2013 11:46 PM

    bender4700,

    To be fair, Terry said the same kind of stuff right before the Sabans left Miami, so that might have just been some calculated nonsense. I know alot of Alabama fans because my cousin graduated from there and no one over-criticizes him nor is the pressure that immense. He’s king in Tuscaloosa. The only reason he’d be leaving is because Texas is paying more and his wife wants to move.

  70. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:48 PM

    That’s really not relevant Wing.

    Saban’s expectations and the fans are not the issue.

    Coolhorn is making it clear that Texas fans would appreciate Saban and what he achieves.

    You yourself pointed out how his wife didn’t like the appreciation shown.

    You’re countering your own, very valid and accurate point.

    Texas will love Saban. The Sabans will love how they are treated.

    eHarmony couldn’t do better than this match.

  71. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:50 PM

    There’s a lot of truth to it it though Real.

    I’ve been a Dolphins fan since I was a little kid, Saban’s fairly easy to read. He went from pleased to be in Miami, to clearly not all in during year 2. His demeanor changed. That same change is happening now.

    He’s not happy in Alabama now. His wife isn’t either.

  72. coolhorn46 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:51 PM

    @Wing…I don’t disagree with you. Make no mistake, UT fans can be plenty demanding and obnoxious on their own from time-to-time. I also get that it’s in Saban’s DNA to want to win the championship every year. That’s the “process” he talks about so much, and it’s also why he’s the right coach at the right time for the Longhorns. I’m just saying UT fans are realistic enough to understand that nobody, no school, no head coach ALWAYS wins championships. Job one for Saban, if he moves to Austin, is to effect a massive attitude change with the UT football team, and I have no doubt he would do that. That alone would make him a very big success. The championships? In some ways, they would just be bonuses of the process.

  73. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:51 PM

    Basically Wing I’m saying you already had it right.

    Saban’s expectations aren’t really coming into play here.

  74. realfootballfan says: Dec 10, 2013 11:52 PM

    WingT says:
    Dec 10, 2013 11:42 PM
    Coolhorn,

    Saban is not angry at the high expectations that Alabama fans has toward winning- hell, he has the same goals.

    —-

    No truer words spoken about the man. He wouldn’t be moving because of pressure. Anyone believing it’s for that reason needs to get a clue. This is the same man who fell out with Will Muschamp because he didn’t take a fax he sent him while he was on vacation about football, and the same man who was complaining about having to actually play the national championship game last year because he wanted to be out recruiting and felt others were getting the jump on him with it being so much later on the schedule. In the hilarious words of Plaxico Burress, “He’s a genius but he’s crazy.”

  75. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:54 PM

    Basically, let’s sum it up:

    Saban has extremely high standards. Texas has extremely strong resources.

    Saban is not feeling appreciated in Tuscaloosa. Texas would appreciate the crap out of him.

    Saban doesn’t like to be questioned or criticized. He doesn’t listen to it, but hates hearing it. Austin won’t come close to the criticism of Tuscaloosa.

    If Saban goes, money won’t be the only factor. He’s making a TON now. It’s deeper.

  76. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2013 11:55 PM

    “He wouldn’t be moving because of pressure. Anyone believing it’s for that reason needs to get a clue.”

    Nobody is saying that.

  77. WingT says: Dec 10, 2013 11:57 PM

    As an avid Alabama fan I can tell you that I want to win a NC every year and I don’t think I need to apologize for that. I certainly know that it is not possible to win it every year but that doesn’t mean I should change my expectation. Next year I expect Bama to be in the hunt, I’ll be disappointed if they fall short.

    When next season starts I am sure I won’t be saying ” hey lets try to finish in the top 25 this year”

  78. realfootballfan says: Dec 10, 2013 11:59 PM

    Friends of mine who went to FSU have a theory on these guys who are like Saban as Jimbo Fisher is a disciple of his. We call them process guys and are not cut from the same cloth as the lifers that we grew up on like the Bowdens, Paternos, Osbornes, etc. They like to input their system, make it go, and then move on to keep it fresh. It’s what drives them. All of us who talk about this expect to lose Jimbo Fisher in the next few years, probably as soon as next year if the right job comes calling. Those guys are just built a different way and seem to always be seeking a new challenge in different places.

  79. WingT says: Dec 11, 2013 12:02 AM

    Bender,
    Basically, I believe that if Saban goes it’s because he has nothing else to accomplish at Alabama and the man has to find another way to keep his drive fueled

  80. WingT says: Dec 11, 2013 12:04 AM

    realfootballfan,
    I agree wholeheartedly.
    If Saban goes to Texas, the Alabama fans will be blamed for his departure and in my opinion, that’s a bunch of BS

  81. bender4700 says: Dec 11, 2013 12:05 AM

    Wing,

    To be fair, that’s unreasonable. Definitely affecting the relationship between Saban and Alabama fans. He’s not feeling appreciated.

    As a Husker fan, even in the 90’s we expected to a. Win the conference, b. Be in the conversation.

    When you say “win the title every year” it’s impossible.

    But you are saying “want” which is fine. We all WANT to win it. But expecting it…..

    At some point, unreasonable expectations just cause problems. Plus, it sucks the fun out of it. Is this season a disappointment? 12-1 is damn good. I’d trade you seasons.

  82. realfootballfan says: Dec 11, 2013 12:05 AM

    bender4700,

    I do agree that something has prompted him to contemplate a move. Maybe it was calculated down to the comments from Mrs. Saban because we know these talks have been ongoing, but his attitude shifted clearly during this season. Maybe it’s just that theory that me and my fellow FSU alumni have that these guys need a constant challenge. I was really wondering if he would have taken another crack at the NFL because I think that he screwed up the Culpepper over Brees pick still burns him, and he deep down believes that he could be great in that league if he could have found a QB.

  83. bender4700 says: Dec 11, 2013 12:06 AM

    WingT,

    I don’t disagree with your assessment. But it’s not total bs. It’s a factor.

    It’s never just one reason. Not saying fans/media are the majority, or even a significant part, but they are definitely part of it.

  84. bender4700 says: Dec 11, 2013 12:08 AM

    I think WingT has said it well towards why Saban might leave, for the majority.

    His take about goals, and basically hitting the ceiling are spot on.

    I’d say, that at least 60% of this is because he can’t really out do himself in Alabama anymore.

  85. realfootballfan says: Dec 11, 2013 12:13 AM

    If he does go to Texas, it’s good for college football. While he’d be leaving Alabama behind, if they hire the right successor, they can sustain success. LSU has done reasonably well in this exact scenario. He did what he set out to accomplish if this is the end of the road, rebuilt that program and won at a rate not seen during the BCS era. Going to the Big 12 will step all of those schools games up or they will get dominated. Bob Stoops has been coasting along for awhile now, so maybe that would light a fire under his ass. More competition is good for us college football fans.

  86. 10ecaggie says: Dec 11, 2013 12:15 AM

    As an Aggie, I am thinking he has several reasons to make the tu move…

    He was lucky to get a second chance to play LSU in the same year for a NC. Okie State SHOULD have been given that game. And last year, after losing to the Aggies, he backed into another NC game from two surprise loses from undefeated teams in the last two weeks of the season and OH State was on probation.

    He knows the path to a NC is much easier in the B12 IF he can go undefeated.

    He has seen the kind of offense played in the B12 (fast and offense focused) and I think he is facinated by it. At Bama he has to think defense FIRST then offense. Many of the SEC teams are getting into spread offenses and Bama defenses are not recruited to play those offenses.

    He can get the same talent all in TX that he is currently having to go all over the US to get now.

    I too think he is getting bored and annoyed with the snobbish Bama fan. It will take him a few years to develop that same fan base at tu cause he will get a couple of honeymoon years first.

    All said, I can see him making the move to tu ir using it to get a big raise in a year when he failed to deliver another NC to Bama.

  87. Deb says: Dec 11, 2013 12:16 AM

    Oh, WingT …

    It’s a new game, a more complex game, and I can’t necessarily disagree with your comment about Saban v. Bear. You could probably say the same about Belichick v. Lombardi. But as someone who loves the history of the game … I wouldn’t say it on either count. Those were different times that required a different breed of coach. We’ll never see their like again. Glad I got to see that old Bear coach. Wouldn’t trade him for a carload of Sabans.

  88. bender4700 says: Dec 11, 2013 12:19 AM

    Yeah, Texas being down isn’t good for college football.

    Same with ND, Miami, USC, and others.

    But really, this happens a lot. Happened in the 90s, 80s, and 70s. Miami in the 00’s. Teams get hot, start winning, and so they get the hot recruits, better choice of coaches. All of that. Plus, other power houses are down. It’s who is smart enough to pounce, and just keep pushing as hard as possible. Saban is one of those guys. He could have peeled off a few titles at LSU.

    I agree that if Saban goes there, it’ll be good.

  89. bender4700 says: Dec 11, 2013 12:21 AM

    Deb makes a good point Wing. :P

  90. suprmous says: Dec 11, 2013 12:26 AM

    Deb the Diva, at least I can see the forest for the trees where you Dear One can’t see past the nose on your face, the Steelers, and your devotion to Bama and of course to your idol Saban. I’ve come to the conclusion over the years that the secret is variety and believe it or not variety has cred where limited vision such as you and your’s don’t. And once again it’s nice to know you can still decorate a thread with your l’il buddies the icons. You can’t deny one thing and that’s you have tunnel vision when it comes to acceptin anything anybody else may have to allow as for as comments on here. Your new found buddy realfootballfan may be a good guy but for what it’s worth I’m all for improvin one’s self but to do it in a way that goes into a biddin war is for the damned birds. And essentially that’s what in today’s world it’s become.

  91. Deb says: Dec 11, 2013 12:29 AM

    As for the Texas job … sound like both my coaches are in the mix LOL

    If Texas hires Mike Tomlin, I’ll eat my computer. And I also doubt John Harbaugh will be giving up his Super Bowl team to move to Austin. Tomlin’s seat is a little hot these days, but both he and Harbaugh have job security for now. Why would either of these Super Bowl-winning coaches want to leave top-tier NFL teams for Texas? Urban’s certainly not going to leave his dream job for UT at this early stage. Who knows what Saban will do, but whatever he does, it won’t be because some fans criticized him. He’s been treated like royalty in Alabama. He won’t be treated better anywhere else.

  92. WingT says: Dec 11, 2013 12:29 AM

    Bender,
    I appreciate your comments.
    Of course I am proud of the 12-1 record that Alabama had this year. They have been on a phenomenal 5 year run. Those kids play their heart out each week.

    There are a few Alabama fans that really ruin it for the majority. They poison trees, they threaten the field goal kicker, etc.. I wish there was a way to shut them up and remove them. But unfortunately there are always some of those in every fan base.

    Alabama fans are truly spoiled. I personally have been able to enjoy 8 National Championship seasons in my lifetime ( tells you how old I am , lol).

    I’m not sure the expectations will change – I hope they don’t. But I do wish my fan base was more appreciative of what gets accomplished each year by the team. I wish our fans could be more understanding of the losses but I don;t every want to see us change our expectations.
    Best and good night

  93. Deb says: Dec 11, 2013 12:31 AM

    suprmous, you ignorant battle ax. I have never expressed any devotion to Saban, belief that he’ll stay at Alabama, or concern that he’ll go. I really can’t read anymore of your post because your bizarre attempts at Southern jive talk make my head hurt.

  94. WingT says: Dec 11, 2013 12:40 AM

    Deb,
    I was going to go to bed then I saw your comment to me.
    Bear was amazing. His loyality to Alabama was remarkable. His salary from the university was never larger than a professors salary on campus – that was his choice. It says a lot about him. He commanded respect from everyone he came into contact with, players, admin, reporters – everyone. Certainly these are not qualities that Saban has. :)

    I just believe that should Saban stay at Alabama he will double the number of NC that Bear won.

    You know Bear endured his share of criticism from the Alabama fan base over the years. Bear understood it came with the job and he stood up to it and fought through it. Todays coaches are much more fragile and their egos are not to be damaged by second guessing them. It truly is a differnt time and especially breed of coaches.

    roll tide

  95. realfootballfan says: Dec 11, 2013 12:45 AM

    Deb,

    Yea, I never take the pro coaches floated by these kinds of reports seriously. If Tomlin were fired by the Steelers, which I doubt would be coming anytime soon considering the depleted Steeler roster that he has nothing to do with putting together, he could walk into another job tomorrow. Harbaugh as been there and done that; his goal was to be an NFL coach from when he told Al Davis he was going to San Diego to cut his teeth and move up in the coaching world and Davis tried to persuade him to reconsider the move because he saw the potential talent. Only failed NFL coaches (Carroll before his current stint, Wandstedt, Chan Gailey, and as odd as it is to say, Saban) go down to the college ranks. Those guys would see it as beneath them to be chasing around 17 year old young men and begging them to play for them when they’ve been going first class everywhere and dealing with the sport at the highest level, no matter how watered down the pro game has become these days to some of us fans.

  96. Deb says: Dec 11, 2013 12:53 AM

    @WingT …

    Someone was commenting recently about how Bama fans would handle it if Saban left. I posted that Bear was the only coach many of us had ever known from the moment we were born. We couldn’t fathom Alabama football without Bear Bryant. Since we survived burying Bear, we can certainly survive saying good-bye to Saban. He’s a great coach, but I expect most of us feel more genuine affection for Gene Stallings. The appreciation is there for Nick, but the family thing takes time.

    Roll Tide.

  97. boomgrounder says: Dec 11, 2013 1:56 AM

    His wife will say, “Nicky always did say I looked lovely in Orange” when Saban signs that 12 MILLION yearly contract to be the Head Coach at The University of Texas! Oh my, how things change so quickly!

  98. mvktr2 says: Dec 11, 2013 2:48 AM

    If Bill Battle has any functioning synapses in that melon of his he’ll hand Jimmy Sexton a copy of Coach Saban’s current contract with the salary blank along with the following instructions, ‘tell him to fill it in with whatever he thinks is appropriate’.

  99. mvktr2 says: Dec 11, 2013 2:52 AM

    Having said what I stated above and knowing that Nick Saban must have 20-40 million in assets any decision he makes won’t be a financial matter. I said when he took the job, he’ll either move on in 5 or 6 years to a final challenge of his coaching career or he’ll accept a 10+ year stay as the greatest challenge of his career and retire from Alabama.

    Either way I’m absolutely fine with it. Roll Tide!!!

  100. boomgrounder says: Dec 11, 2013 3:44 AM

    Sorry Bama folks but that Crimson Tide ain’t worth nearly as much as that black Texas oil! You can’t win a bidding war. It’s over. He’s going, it’s just a matter of how much!
    For the guy who says it ain’t about the money. Your wrong son. It’s always about the money!

  101. sportsguy3434 says: Dec 11, 2013 4:35 AM

    And the Oscar goes to…Jimmy Sexton in “Should I stay or should I Go” starring Nick Saban. Alabama will not loose a bidding war to Texas over their coach even IF he wanted to move. This is all about the last contract.

    Herbie even said it wasn’t going to happen.

  102. waynefontes says: Dec 11, 2013 9:55 AM

    I have no dog in this fight, but it is interesting to wonder..

    Nick Saban can win more titles at Alabama and cement his place on college football’s Mount Rushmore.

    Or…

    He can go to Texas, revitalize them and win national championships at three different schools, which could arguably make him the number one face on college football’s Mount Rushmore.

    Either way, it will be interesting to see what happens.

  103. bfree2k says: Dec 11, 2013 10:06 AM

    First, I’m baffled at the number of posters who believe that Nick Saban going to UT is going to relieve the pressure of winning it all like he’s facing at Alabam. WTF, are you guys sniffing horse manure? This is Texas we’re talking about. It’s the reason a highly success, 2-time NC contender, 1-time NC winner (both fairly recently), multi-time conference winner in Mack Brown is being pushed out to pasture. And if the reports of UT being willing to pay Saban as much as 10M/yr are correct, how can you rationalize he’d be under less pressure than at Alabama? There’s always pressure to win all over the top levels of the FBS but none more than at The Ohio State, USC, ND, Alabama and yes the University of Texas.

    Second, If I was a “Roll Tide” fan, I wouldn’t be worried about a competent coach coming in. While losing Saban would be a tremendous loss and I suspect no-one can fully fill his shoes nor live up to the legacy he’s left at the school, my guess is that Alabama will pony the necessary cash it would take to lure away a hot coach at some other program who couldn’t say no to such a prestigious job like Alabama say an Art Briles at the low end; a David Cutcliffe who has SEC West experience and considering the job he’s done at that Football armpit none as Duke; or maybe a Jimbo Fisher at the high end.

  104. sportsdrenched says: Dec 11, 2013 11:09 AM

    “I don’t believe tweets, twitters, & other below the belt rumors = Look what happened to Mack Brown’s rumor mill today – First – he’s stepping down, then he’s back-in recruiting in Florida, then he’s out – then he’s in. Ugh!”

    The key word in social media is media. The back and fourth about Brown has been reported by all sports news organizations, not just twitter.

    The only reason I got on Twitter was so I could remove a level of reporting from the news stream. I noticed too many news reports started with “So and So tweeted…”. It’s how it works now. Better get used to it, it’s only going to move further in that direction.

  105. chefjon81 says: Dec 11, 2013 11:29 AM

    6-year, $50 mil contract and he’s gone. UT, or maybe the Texans stepping up wouldn’t be a shock.

  106. ratsfoiledagain says: Dec 11, 2013 1:14 PM

    I’m not leaving Michigan St for LSU.

    I’m not leaving LSU for the Miami Dolphins

    I’m not leaving Miami for Alabama.

    I’m not….

    Maybe he stays. Maybe he goes. On thing is for certain, his track record of “I’m not leaving for….” isn’t too good.

  107. Deb says: Dec 11, 2013 5:27 PM

    @ratsfoiledagain …

    Of course, I know the whole story of Saban with the Dolphins. But did he actually tell the folks at Michigan State that he wasn’t going to LSU, and the folks at LSU that he wasn’t going to Miami? Not trying to be a smart-aleck … just wondering if that really happened.

  108. tdub821 says: Dec 11, 2013 5:29 PM

    *Crickets*

  109. wisconsinhillfolk says: Dec 11, 2013 5:40 PM

    We’ve had this conversation before, Deb. There is nothing about Saban’s departure from any job to defend. When I was in sales, we’d say “Buyers are liars.” Head Coaches are liars… all of them! That’s what makes some of them great. Did you see Shanahan’s (not a great coach, but the most recent example) presser today? It’s an art form.

  110. Deb says: Dec 11, 2013 6:03 PM

    @wisconsinhillfolk …

    Have no idea what you’re getting at. I didn’t ask anyone to defend him, nor do I think he needs defending. Have said many times that coaching is a job like any other and people have a right to change jobs whenever they wish. If Nick wants to leave Bama, that’s his business.

    I’m simply asking ratsfoiledagain whether Saban did expressly say–as rats posted–that he wasn’t leaving MSU for LSU, or LSU for Miami. I’m just curious whether people have taken events specific to Miami and applied them to every job Saban has held.

  111. Deb says: Dec 11, 2013 6:05 PM

    It was a pretty simple yes-or-no question that shouldn’t have invited a lecture. But thanks anyway.

  112. be4bama says: Dec 11, 2013 6:06 PM

    SABAN isn’t going anywhere. FACT

  113. wisconsinhillfolk says: Dec 11, 2013 6:21 PM

    Uh, yeah. That’s exactly what they’re doing. I’m a B1G (Badgers) fan, but I have always liked Coach Saban. He must be the greatest. All those Championships and no dirt. If there was, Urban would have found it by now.

  114. Deb says: Dec 11, 2013 6:38 PM

    Not assuming Nick’s an angel. Bear certainly wasn’t. Few people are, and I’m extremely cynical. Just wondering whether he did this specific thing in those two other instances. He has made a big deal in interviews about his comment in that Miami presser that he would not be Alabama’s coach. It seems odd that he would claim to be so torn up about that if he were on record doing the same thing at Michigan State and at LSU. That’s why I’m curious.

    It really shouldn’t require all this explanation. It’s a simple question. There is film footage showing him saying to the press in Miami that he would not be Alabama’s coach. Is there film footage or are there on-the-record press quotes of him saying he would not leave MSU for LSU, or that he would not leave LSU for Miami? I’m a thorough kind of person. Just looking for the facts as opposed to the urban legends.

  115. dhardy8207 says: Dec 12, 2013 11:03 AM

    Personally I don’t buy the “he’s under too much pressure to win” BS… If he’s being courted to take the Texas job its because they have fallen from the upper ranks of the conference and the University as well as the fan base is hungry for elite wins (National Championships).

    With his current winning record being 3 out of the last 4 and the Longhorns haven’t won the big dance in almost a decade, I can’t see how the pressure to win would decrease by him leaving for UT where he’ll have to restructure the program and spend the next 2 years trying to recruit the players needed to field a championship worthy team. At least with BAMA the recruiting is yielding the top talent and he already knows who he’s dealing with in regards to administration.

    He might ought to worry about things promised just to get him there but never comes to substance after he arrives.

  116. crisper57 says: Dec 12, 2013 2:04 PM

    The offer from UT to Saban is $8 million. He already agreed to it.

  117. be4bama says: Dec 12, 2013 2:07 PM

    8.3 for 9 years….75 million deal. Staying at BAMA. Done deal.

  118. dhardy8207 says: Dec 12, 2013 4:53 PM

    @Bender4700:

    Man you must be a UT alumni because you couldn’t have done anything productive today as much as you have responded to every single comment posted today. You sure seem to know everything thats going on behind close doors, what everyone is thinking, what all has been said even outside the press. I’m suprised you don’t already know exactly what Texas is offering and the moving date for Saban.

    With insight like you obviously have to keep posting relentlessly, surely you dont just lend this knowledge out for free. Man you seriously need to move Kurt right on out of that ESPN chair and get yourself some real $$ for all this inside knowledge you have.

  119. slobberknocker says: Dec 13, 2013 1:06 AM

    I heard a sports commentator tonight say that Saban going to Texas would give him the chance to be the first coach in history of college football to win national championships with three different programs…

    If that is indeed a true statement, an egomaniac like Saban would seriously consider bolting to Longhorn Land…

  120. pushingiron says: Dec 13, 2013 10:09 AM

    Saban isn’t going anywhere. Bama can match anyone’s financial commitment, and Saban has built a program there that reloads every year. Why would he leave?

    Brown will be back in Austin for one more year at minimum. Then they will hire an “up and comer” that won’t have the pedigree that most want.

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