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Report: Mack Brown to resign

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After a bit of an emotional Friday night, it appears Mack Brown‘s career is actually coming to an end as Texas head coach. A day after all was thought to have calmed down in Austin, The Longhorn Network is reporting that Brown will resign as head coach after coaching Texas in the bowl game.

According to the Longhorn Network‘s report via Twitter, Brown has informed his players and Texas recruits he will be stepping down as head coach, but will coach Texas in the upcoming Alamo Bowl against Oregon. Brown has a record of 158-47 at Texas, highlighted by the school’s only BCS national championship and two Big 12 titles.

There was much speculation about the future of Brown all week-long, and considering the source reporting the news is the official media outlet representing Texas athletics, this seems to be a legitimate report. The other part of the equation that was supposedly in play was Texas hiring Alabama head coach Nick Saban. That is no longer an option after Saban agreed to a contract extension Friday night, as Brown and other leaders at Texas were making speeches at the Texas football banquet.

Even with Saban out of the picture, supposedly, the Texas coaching search should be a wild one to watch unfold.

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  1. halbert53 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:26 PM

    He coached during the season and whether you like him or not, he should be able to coach his team in their bowl game.

  2. sportsguy3434 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:27 PM

    Classy way to leave Mack. Take the retirement package and enjoy the legacy you have left.

    Chip Brown was right. Now the search begins but I bet it will move quickly.

  3. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 7:27 PM

    Now who does UT hire, and be realistic.

  4. suprmous says: Dec 14, 2013 7:28 PM

    Now what to make of this: more political wranglin behind the scenes, more backdoor politics, more half baked promises, more use of the null and void stamp, more legal wranglin in and out of the attorney’s offc? What to make of this’ enuff to give any sane person a migraine.

  5. sportsguy3434 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:29 PM

    Normtide: Patterson, Briles and Franklin should be up there. Miles and Richt would be outside dark horses but would be good hires.

  6. jimbo75025 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:31 PM

    I hope Texas already has a coach lined up. Otherwise essentially forcing Brown out is going to be even worse of a PR nightmare.

    After yesterday, I honestly thought Mack would be back next year.

  7. jason1214 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:31 PM

    Here UT let me help…
    Malzahn, Mora,Franklin, Chad Morris.
    Hope the first two want to talk, and interview all.

  8. cometkazie says: Dec 14, 2013 7:32 PM

    I shoulda bought popcorn stock.

  9. timh1955 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:35 PM

    I think Jimbo Fisher should be added to the list

  10. asimonetti88 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:37 PM

    jason1214 says:
    Dec 14, 2013 7:31 PM
    Here UT let me help…
    Malzahn, Mora,Franklin, Chad Morris.
    Hope the first two want to talk, and interview all.

    Didn’t Malzahn just sign an extension?

  11. kdbroom says: Dec 14, 2013 7:41 PM

    I’d bet my house that Saban doesn’t have a buyout in his contract, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he is still be in play.

  12. tmb333 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:42 PM

    I wonder if Saban’s contract had a 72 hour grace period? Some contracts give each party some time to change their minds.

    If not, my money is on Jim Tressell.

  13. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 7:42 PM

    I think Malzhan and Fisher are out of reach. They are playing for a title, you don’t leave a program after that. Franklin, Morris, or Freeze are more likely. Texas is a great job, but I don’t see them taking a successful coach from their current job. Texas isn’t miles ahead of everyone. I wouldn’t put Smart out of the conversation either.

  14. djeg07 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:42 PM

    take urban meyer…please

  15. suprmous says: Dec 14, 2013 7:42 PM

    cometkazie, is it too late;hahaha? This’ goin to be a longgggggggggg drawn out soap opera Texas Style I gotta feelin, pass the Jack Daniels please. And if there’s no Jack let me share my private stash of Mescal.

  16. footballislife01 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:43 PM

    asimonetti88 – extensions mean nothing. Money is the only thing that counts.

  17. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:43 PM

    People remember, no buy out is too big. It’s TEXAS.

    Saban is still in play. Until someone else is hired, he’s a potential candidate. He’s got ZERO credibility, and money SPEAKS LOUD. I didn’t hear about a huge buyout, so “for life” is just for recruiting. Keep in mind, most of these guys are thinking about A. Recruits B. Lawyers.

    I doubt he goes, but he’s not out. He was ready to go, but someone in Tuscaloosa must have said the right thing and got him to stay. Saban is flat lying when he said Texas was never a consideration. He’s talked to them for almost a year.

    Malzhan no. Mora no. Franklin not big enough game, Chad Morris same thing.

    It’s going to be a big name. Saban has partially taken himself out.

    We’ll hear some big names. Not sure at this point. Someone surprising maybe.

  18. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 7:44 PM

    Tressel might be a smart pick. As for Saban, come on, your starting to sound like Tennessee with Gruden. Let it go man.

  19. be4bama says: Dec 14, 2013 7:44 PM

    Shouldn’t be hard for Texas to hire a really big name with all that big oil money!!!

  20. thefiesty1 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:45 PM

    Promote Major Applewhite and quit screwing him at Texas since he was pulled for Chrissy Simms and cost him the Heisman. Brown will still be around as Special assistant to President Powers. SHOCK the world!

  21. footballislife01 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:45 PM

    David Shaw is on my wish list. He can make a difference in the recruiting in Texas.

  22. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:45 PM

    Jim Tressel is OUT.

    Look up the phrase “Show Clause” Way too much of a headache.

  23. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:47 PM


    Saban is never ever EVER a sure thing to stay. I doubt he takes the job, I strongly believe he only signed the extension he was offered a week ago because of either something on Alabama’s side, or Texas’s side.

    I respect Bear Bryant as much as anyway and what Alabama is, but Nick Saban is a scum bag liar who throws his own players under the bus. But he win’s titles so people just put up with it.

  24. asimonetti88 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:47 PM

    tmb333 says:
    Dec 14, 2013 7:42 PM
    I wonder if Saban’s contract had a 72 hour grace period? Some contracts give each party some time to change their minds.

    If not, my money is on Jim Tressell.

    Only if Texas wants to have an interim coach for multiple games a year, including bowl games (show cause penalty)

  25. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:49 PM


    Texas is one of the top jobs in sports period. PR Smeer R. Doesn’t matter.

    They can hire nearly anyone. This will be a domino effect in football, into the NFL possibly. This will result in 2 or 3 head coaching jobs opening up.

  26. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:53 PM

    Major Applewhite? hahahahhahahahahhahahaha.

    No. They are not gonna pull a Texas Tech and hire a former player with no head coaching experience.

    The hire will be a current head coach. This program needs new life, not to be rebuilt. Bring in a proven winner, they will be competing next year. They were a win away from the Big XII title this year. So this hire will or should be a guy who’s currently winning elsewhere. They can afford it.

    Look out Stanford. Look out a couple NFL teams. Look out Florida, remember Muschamp was the guy set to replace Mack Brown at one point.

  27. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:55 PM

    I like the comment Brett McMurphy just said on air for ESPN.

    This was the plan, news got out, and the media made his time table a mess. He wanted to tell his players first.

    This happens a lot, the media disrupts time tables for these things.

  28. sportsguy3434 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:59 PM

    SABAN is out! I hear you, but come on.

    This drama WILL turn off some coaches. Malzhan and Fisher would be crazy to leave. Btw Mack was at North Carolina when he was hired.

    All of you who are saying “WE ARE TEXAS! WE CAN BUY ANNNNNYONE WE WANT!” are delusional. Yes you will get a great coach, but not everyone is dying to get into that circus. They can make good money at great programs with less headaches.

  29. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:01 PM


    I am NOT a Texas fan, but if you think they can’t buy who they want, you sir are delusional.

    Texas is one of the top 5 jobs in sports, period.

  30. noaxetogrind says: Dec 14, 2013 8:01 PM

    @ bender4700,
    That’s not very classy bender, teasing Gator fans like that. If Texas somehow thought Muschamp was the guy and would take him I know there would be lines of Bull Gators lined up to help pay his salary at UT. It would be the 2nd miracle during Muschamps time in Gainesville, the 1st one being when Jeremy Foley said with a straight face to Kansas, “oh yea, Weiss is a great coach”.

  31. jimbo75025 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:01 PM

    bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 7:49 PM


    Texas is one of the top jobs in sports period. PR Smeer R. Doesn’t matter.

    They can hire nearly anyone. This will be a domino effect in football, into the NFL possibly. This will result in 2 or 3 head coaching jobs opening up.
    Well, lets just see what happens shall we. Take it from me, getting rid of a long time head coach for something new and shiny doesn’t work most of the time. My school has been suffering from a like decision for half a decade now.

  32. halbert53 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:03 PM

    Gators say please hire Muschamp!

  33. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:03 PM

    What circus? Mack Brown is leaving on his “own terms”.

    They are talented, were a win over Baylor from winning the Big XII.

    What coach is turned off by all of this? The only circus is the fan and twitter reaction only because of what it could mean. But once the guy is hired, it’s a HOT job with a lot of potential for championships.

    It’s not like Mack was publicly fired, and the team went 6-7.

  34. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:05 PM


    They would have to literally try to find a coach who can’t win there.

    It’s a top 5 job for more than money. They literally have 4 or 5 star kids in their backyard.

    What team do you root for?

    @noaxetogrind sorry haha. But Muschamp is a really good coach, he lost his starting QB and the season went to crap. They won what, 12 games last year? 11? Overreaction.

  35. railcarcowboy says: Dec 14, 2013 8:07 PM

    Dear God, please let it be Les Miles

  36. doggeatdogg says: Dec 14, 2013 8:07 PM

    Wow. I knew Coach Brown’s tenure was coming to a close. I believe this was the desirable outcome all along, for him to step down. Why didn’t he do it yesterday. He’s doing this 24 hours after Saban is safely tucked away at Bama. Something is still amiss. I don’t get any warm fuzzes from that Bama contract. Saban can always change his mind.

  37. 65panhed says: Dec 14, 2013 8:08 PM

    Take Bob Stoops Please

  38. bronzestarusmc says: Dec 14, 2013 8:08 PM

    Let me start by stating, I am not a Longhorn fan! That being said, Mack Brown is a class act, and should be allowed to leave Texas on his terms. Being forced out is wrong, and I hope a pray that Coach Brown goes out with a huge bang and throws them under a bus. But, I know he will not, because I he is class.

  39. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:08 PM

    Les Miles? LSU is good, every year.

    I just don’t get the SEC fans who want their coach gone who puts them in the title hunt every year.

    Well, for Les, I get it.

  40. noaxetogrind says: Dec 14, 2013 8:08 PM

    @ bender, you really need to stop obsessing over Texas. Great program, great job. However I doubt there are 10 out of 32 head coaches in the NFL who would take the job regardless of the pay. Most head coaches are already making more than they ever dreamed of. Value is in the eye of the beholder.

  41. 2late2matter says: Dec 14, 2013 8:13 PM

    Has anyone said “Thank-you” to Mack Brown for his roller coaster coaching career at Texas?

    I do. Thank you, Mr. Brown for your dedication, knowledge, BS&T, and a the winning program you’re leaving for your successor.

    Personally, I wish your teams could have beat up on Oklahoma more often…..

  42. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:13 PM

    I’m not obsessing, and you are foolish if you really think “make more than they ever dreamed of” is at all sensible.

    It’s about ego, power, winning, money, and EGO.

    This is a big story, love talking about it.

    Texas can hire several NFL head coaches, of course some guys are happy, doesn’t mean they don’t have the ability to hire an NFL guy away. Only takes one.

    People acting like Texas can’t hire darn near any coach are just ridiculous. Seriously.

    Do you even know what money is? I’m not saying they are gonna hire Bill Belichick, but plenty of head coaches just got a call from their agent about this job.

  43. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 8:14 PM

    Exactly sportsguy. Texas fans think they can just hand pick any coach they want. You think Jim is leaving San Fran? Texas is one of the top college jobs, not the top job. Hell, I’m not so sure it’s the best in the big 12. This reminds me of another UT and their thoughts of Gruden. The realistic biggest name I see them getting is Charlie Strong. That would be an awesome hire, hands down. I don’t see many top tier coaches with strong ties to UT. Also, Muschamp won’t leave UF for Texas. That’s a side ways move. Florida has better recruiting per square mile, plus Georgia to the north. Great weather, plenty of money.

    Texas fans think they are Yankees and everyone else is the Mudville Knights. There are at least 6 other programs on par with Texas, and another dozen a half step behind.

  44. noaxetogrind says: Dec 14, 2013 8:19 PM

    @ bender, not a Gator but am an objective observer. Muschamp was in over his head from day one. You really think Florida is a “starter” head coaching job. Gator fans will tell you about the injury excuse. They must have been hurt for all 3 seasons he has been there since their offense has ranked between 85 and 113 all 3 seasons. This is Florida bender, the school that did offense like no other from Spurrier to Meyer.
    The Ga. Southern loss was the ultimate. They actually had more players out than UF. Has not hired an OC yet even though they are losing recruits right and left because he can’t tell them who their coach will be. Likeable guy who appears to be a good defensive coach who wasn’t quite ready for prime time yet. I would wager that Texas or Bama would not hire a first time head coach.

  45. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:20 PM



    Seriously, just stop.

    People, just because you hate Texas (I certainly d0) doesn’t mean reality isn’t there.


    Accept it.

    Muschamp WAS the coach in waiting for Mack Brown.

    Yeah, he’s not interested. Come on people…

    Norm, that may be the dumbest thing you’ve ever said. Ask anyone, not just commenting on here, but people in the sports world, and they would laugh at what you said.

  46. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 8:20 PM

    Amazing how closely the aftermath of this news on CFT mirrors what happens when you flip on the garage light on a hot Florida night. Cockroaches everywhere! All those folks who were so pitifully miserable after learning Saban was staying at Bama are now salivating that it might not be too late for him to slither off to Texas because Texas can buy anything.

    Where’s the Raid when you need it? 😆

  47. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 8:22 PM

    @asimonetti88 …

    Like Saban, both Fisher and Malzahn have also signed extensions in the last couple of weeks.

  48. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:23 PM


    He was 11-2 last year.

    So what the heck are you talking about? He lost his starting QB in the first what, week? They spiraled downward.

    But seriously, most had them in the top 5 to start the year.

    I just don’t get how 11-2 is bad? I’d LOVE for my school to hit 11-2 again. We’re stuck at 8 or 9 right now.

  49. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:26 PM

    Texas number one trending topic on Twitter.

    Yeah, not that big of a deal.

  50. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 8:27 PM

    @bender …

    What’s your team?

  51. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:27 PM

    What are you saying Deb?

    Are we not supposed to be excited and interested in one of the top jobs in sports opening up?

    Just trying to figure out who or what you are blasting.

  52. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:28 PM


    So anyone who thinks I’m a Texas honk, you couldn’t be MORE wrong.

  53. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 8:29 PM

    Gee whiz … just wondering who your team is …

  54. bamaqt says: Dec 14, 2013 8:29 PM

    Kirby Smart… 😦. Don’t want to lose him but he is destined to be a HC

  55. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 8:31 PM

    @bamaqt …

    Would expect Texas to go for someone who has been a HC before.

  56. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:32 PM

    That line wasn’t aimed at you Deb. That was a clarification for others who think Texas isn’t that great of a job.

    Texas won’t hire a guy who is not currently a head coach Bamagt. They wouldn’t have to.

  57. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:34 PM


    Can you clarify what you are talking about with the roaches comment? Trying to understand what you are saying.

  58. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 8:37 PM

    Don’t have to ask anyone, most posters here agree. Texas is a great college job. There are other great college jobs. I don’t hate Texas, I am not making fairy tales about Texas either. I think you’re a bit delusional about this. The good news is, it will play out publicly so we can see who is right.

    And I will go on record saying that Texas has peers. Florida, OSU, USC, just to name a few. Texas couldn’t just hire their coach away. Not unless they were looking to leave for other reasons. In fact, the politics off coaching at UT puts them behind some other schools.

    I do like your irony. Saban is a liar and total POS! Saban will be our new head football coach!

  59. chefjon81 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:38 PM

    Brown should be in play for an NFL HC job. His biggest weakness has been recruiting, and he wouldn’t have to worry about that in the NFL. Detroit, if they miss the playoffs, could be in the market, and a team like that could really flourish with a guy like Mack Brown…as far as the Texas job, enough about Jimbo Fisher. He’s not going anywhere until Winston is done there.

  60. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:40 PM

    normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 8:37 PM

    Don’t have to ask anyone, most posters here agree.


    That’s all I needed to hear.

    I’ll stick to people who do know what they are talking about.

    And I’m not a Texas fan. Nice reading skills.

    You sir, have no clue. USC hired Washingtons head coach. After Texas A&M’s said no. PEER?!

    Do you know what PEER means?!

    Ugh. People.

  61. cometkazie says: Dec 14, 2013 8:40 PM

    People who live or lived on the Gulf Coast know exactly what Deb is saying.

  62. bralinshan says: Dec 14, 2013 8:41 PM

    Bender=Not very bright. Just FYI, Mr. Texas has all the money in the world, they DON’T…
    The ex-Chancellor at Texas said NO WAY they pay $7M for a football coach. And Brown didn’t walk out with no money…fool.
    Saban is OUT. And you may think he’s a scumbag. But, you want him at Texas so bad you’d sell your soul. And just so you know, Saban could have had Texas if he wanted it. But, somehow, he summoned the courage to turn down the greatest job in the history of sports…that has won a single title in 43 LONG years.
    Your DENSE. Texas is highly overrated until further notice. Move on…

  63. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:42 PM

    chefjon81 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:38 PM

    Brown should be in play for an NFL HC job.


    Mack Brown is a recruiter. Not an X’s and O’s guy.

    Not one NFL team is interested. You have a better shot at an NFL job than a guy who’s 62, and well known as a recruiter over football coach.

    For years Mack Brown has been seen as the conductor of a train already flying down the tracks.

  64. amosalanzostagg says: Dec 14, 2013 8:42 PM

    Patterson would make the best choice. Deep, deep
    Texas HS recruiting roots. TCU is TCU, Reverting back to their SWC form of a middle of the pack program. Winning big in a mid major conference is great, but a BCS conference is entirely different,

    Patterson has taken TCU as far as they can go.

    Freeze at Ole Miss would be intriguing.

    Cutliffe any one?

  65. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:44 PM

    bralinshan says: Dec 14, 2013 8:41 PM


    Bright eh, yet you claim I’m a Texas fan.

    bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:28 PM


    bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:20 PM

    People, just because you hate Texas (I certainly d0)

  66. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:45 PM


    Patterson has fallin off too much. He’s struggled a ton in the Big XII. Starting to look like he was just real good in a crap conference. Below average in a better one.

  67. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 8:45 PM

    @bender …

    Thought that was self-explanatory–and I was laughing, not blasting. Didn’t you see the laughing face?

    People have been predicting for weeks that Saban would go to Texas. He has now signed his extension and made clear he’s not going to Texas. And many were miserable because the Saban drama was over. Now word is out that Mack has resigned and suddenly people are scrambling back out of the woodwork with more “Saban to Texas.” It’s … goofy.

    BTW, dcroz wrote a great summary of why Saban won’t be going to Texas–best I’ve seen. I’ll post it for you.

  68. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:45 PM

    People, if you want to call me an idiot, fine, but don’t call me A TEXAS fan.

    That’s just insulting.

    Plus, READ. Comprehension. Mix the two.

  69. bralinshan says: Dec 14, 2013 8:46 PM

    I’ll bet Gene Chizik could be had pretty reasonable by Texas. He’s got old UT ties and has won the SAME NUMBER of National Championships as Texas over the last 43 years…

    They should jump at Chizik.

  70. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:47 PM

    No need to post it Deb, because nobody can accurately say whether he’s going. I don’t think he’s going, but just because he didn’t go, doesn’t mean he wasn’t possibly or even planning to go.

    People like drama. What else should we all talk about?

    How some people here just make an opinion, refuse to take in new views, and then adamantly state it, and use OTHER COMMENTERS as their back up.


  71. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:49 PM


    Maybe, if they can afford to buy the next Cam Newton. I mean recruit! Oops.

    When Texas hires a BIG name, what will everyone here have to say?

    I’ll come back and ask.

  72. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:50 PM

    Huskers v Longhorns in Volleyball in just a few minutes. GBR!!!!

    Longhorns can take solace in their football program will be back on the rise soon.

  73. chefjon81 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:51 PM

    @ bender4700

    Mack Brown was a recruiter? Really? Hmm, must have been why he was able to get Andrew Luck, Manziel, RGIII, all in-state recruits, among others, to this powerhouse program.

    As far as a 62-year old HC in the NFL, Saban is that age, and he’d have his pick of jobs. Pete Carroll is that age also, and he’d also have his pick if he wanted to leave Seattle. Lots of successful teams have head coaches that are not necessarily X’s and O’s guys, but they are great leaders, and they hire the right coordinators.

  74. bralinshan says: Dec 14, 2013 8:53 PM

    So, your a Nebraska fan. And you call Saban a scumbag? You’ve got a loose cannon FOOL coaching that team. He’s a blithering idiot that spits in his players faces. He’s not a good enough coach to act like an idiot. He hasn’t won JACK. And, he’ll never win JACK.
    Nebraska is done as an NC contender. Kids have finally decided that playing football in the frozen tundra of Lincoln, Nebraska in foolish.
    Good luck getting a decent coach in Nebraska after Pelini gets fired next year.

  75. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:54 PM

    chefjon81 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:51 PM

    Vince Young? Have you seen all the NFL players with “Texas” as their school???

    Seriously. History happens ALL the time, not just the last 4 years. See, in the early 2000’s Texas was cleaning up on recruits. But because Mack hasn’t done as good of a job lately, still load with talent, his team has taken a stumble and they are under performing.

    He’s retiring for a reason. He’s not going to the NFL. Just stop trying to prove you are right about an ABSOLUTELY stupid statement.

  76. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:55 PM

    bralinshan says: Dec 14, 2013 8:53 PM

    You shouldn’t call people dumb if you don’t know the difference in your and you’re.

    Who’s your team sir?

  77. dcroz says: Dec 14, 2013 8:56 PM

    I don’t think Texas would have any interest in Gus Malzahn and his triple-option offense. The ‘Horns buried it thirty years ago like everyone else and I doubt they’re interested in reviving it. (For that matter, neither will Auburn once everyone dusts off their defensive playbooks from yesteryear and shows just why everyone abandoned it.)

    If Texas really believes that they can have anyone they want, they need to take that checkbook for a walk and see who they can get. Take a stab at Les Miles, Mark Richt, Jimbo Fischer, Mike Gundy, David Shaw, Art Briles, Jim Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, or any other big-time coach and see who responds. All you need is one “yes” to have your new guy.

  78. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 8:56 PM

    bender, I’ve been a football aficionado for a long time, study the game, the people who built it, and the people who play it. When someone else posts what I believe to be true based on my own discussions with those who know Saban personally–and does it as succinctly as dcroz has done–I’m happy to share that viewpoint. But then, my ego isn’t so big that I think I’m the only one who can make a good point … or as you say, “take in new views.”

    dcroz says:
    Dec 14, 2013 6:13 PM

    As I had said before, Saban would not go to Texas for the simple reason he knows it is not a fit for him. That job in Austin calls for a politician, one who is willing to bullshit and backslap with oil barons, business tycoons, and ambitious state politicians while negotiating their various rivalries and clashes. It calls for someone who is willing to know his place in the pecking order, and that he is not at the top of it–certainly not off the field, and sometimes even not on it. It requires one who is willing to play golf with, party with, or appear in public with whatever big-money booster wearing his ten-gallon hat wants him to, whenever and wherever that may be.

    Saban is the opposite of these qualities. He demands total control of his program, total control of his staff, total control of his coaching decisions, and total control of his person. His response to anyone suggesting he have anything less that this is to tell them in so many words what they can do to themselves and where they can go do it. Had he went to Austin, he would have run screaming from the place faster than he did Miami.

    The University of Texas job is one of the best in college football…for the right kind of person. Saban is the farthest thing from that kind. As much as many ‘Horns fans wanted him, it would have ended badly when the clash of egos consumed the program.

  79. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 8:57 PM

    Didn’t read about your Nebraska fanhood until after I posted.

    This will settle it. Texas clearly wanted/wants Saban. If UT is that far ahead of Bama and every other school, he will be there next head coach. If someone else is hired, they couldn’t get who they wanted. Fair enough?

    No one here said Texas sucks, or UT is bottom of the barrel. Not did anyone say they are middle of the pack. However, everyone is saying they are one of a few elite schools. You said ask around, I got plenty of responses here. You can’t then say, oh those don’t count. Even Texas fans aren’t talking this much mess lol.

  80. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:57 PM

    “And you call Saban a scumbag?”

    Bo didn’t walk away from an NFL job after stating he wasn’t. Say what you want about his conduct, but Saban is in FACT a liar. “I will not be the head coach of Alabama”. Where’s he coaching now?

    Bo has issues, I’m not convinced he’s the right guy, but we’ll see.

  81. dolphins4 says: Dec 14, 2013 8:58 PM

    Texas ought to go after Jason Garrett .I hope Mack Brown will get a great coaching job at some great college like Florida.

  82. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 9:01 PM

    And bender, no one said you shouldn’t or couldn’t discuss any drama you like. But the rest of us are also free to disagree or to post that continuing to dramatize about Saban is silly.

    I’ve been told I’m “holier than thou” and “refuse” to let other people have their own opinions simply because I post counter opinions. Well, it’s a football blog. I will continue to post counter opinions. If people want to rant about other people’s teams, coaches, players, etc., but can’t handle anyone disagreeing with their rants … they probably should just rant in an empty room rather than on a public forum 😉

  83. apmn says: Dec 14, 2013 9:02 PM

    I bet John Mackovic is available.

  84. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 9:02 PM

    dolphins4 says:

    Texas ought to go after Jason Garrett.
    What did the Longhorns ever do to you? :)

  85. chefjon81 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:03 PM

    @ bender4700

    Hey jackass, its underperforming, not under performing. Maybe you should learn a little English before you try to correct someone else. I don’t blame you though, I blame whoever raised you for doing such a lousy job.

  86. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:03 PM


    You are assuming that Nick said no. Isn’t it possible that others in Texas don’t want Saban? It’s very possible that Saban simply was using the opening to kick his pay up, and kick the fans in the butt. We’ll never know. But hiring someone else doesn’t mean they are not a top 5 job in sports. Did I ever say Alabama wasn’t a top 5 job too?

    The point is, that Texas can hire darn near anyone, but of course, that doesn’t mean they simply pick a name, and he’s theirs. But USC couldn’t get Sumlin out of A&M when Manziel is about to bolt. OSU isn’t sure if Urban is the right guy now.

    Texas is a top 5 job in sports. Not convincing Saban (remember Big XII’s recruiting rules are different than the SEC: over signing) not getting Saban doesn’t deminish the job.

  87. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:04 PM


  88. greggatx says: Dec 14, 2013 9:04 PM

    Goodbye to a great and classy HC. I’m sad to see him go. It was a fun 16 years of exciting football with many memories. I wish you the best. It will be hard to fill your shoes.

    As always…Hook’em Horns!!!

  89. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:05 PM

    chefjon81 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:03 PM


    Hey great, thanks

    Moron. You can’t debate me, so a minor grammar error.

    You sir are a true champion.

  90. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:09 PM


    That’s fine. But people’s opinions that are flat inaccurate are fair game for reality check.

    Just came across, the roaches line, like you think we shouldn’t be talking about it or something. No worries.

  91. chefjon81 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:11 PM

    @ bender4700

    You sir are a true champion.


    That’s funny, your mom said the same thing! Next time you crawl out of the basement, tell her I said hi.

  92. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:11 PM


    You know I love ya man. I really like your reply. Seriously, love debatin back and forth with ya. You don’t resort to insults, I hope I didn’t come across as insulting either. I know you are smart enough to know that I’m not insulting you.

  93. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:13 PM

    chefjon81 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:11 PM


    Holy crap. I’d call you a pathetic, mentally deficient loser if you weren’t so hilarious.

    Oh man. So fun.

  94. thefiesty1 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:14 PM

    So, Bender is back posting 20 times on a change in coaching at Texas. Wow! Since his team is Nebraska, how’s that move to the B1G working out for you since they couldn’t compete with Texas when they were in the Big 12. Sour grapes, much.

  95. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 9:15 PM

    Have you been under a rock my friend? Texas has been all over Saban since last bowl season ended. Do you think Texas could get Sumlin? I would also bet they couldn’t get Gus, Jimbo, or Meyer. Hiring coaches has changed. There was a time when certain programs could hire anyone, it isn’t like that now. USC couldn’t hire Sumlin, that just proves my point. More and more programs can pay top tier money. It’s not like Texas is going to pay a $14 million salary. Texas will get a good coach, but Chizic would be the only recent title winner title winner Texas could hire. Tbh, that could be reality. He has ties and a title.

    I’m just wondering, doesn’t Tressel’s show cause have a time limit? Shouldn’t it be about up? I could search, but someone here will know.

  96. roanboon says: Dec 14, 2013 9:16 PM

    Jim Harbaugh

  97. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:16 PM


    Where have you been?

    Dumbest Poster on CFT title is being challenged.

    Who is your team Fiesty?

  98. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:18 PM

    It’s 2016 Norm.

    Tressel isn’t going.

    Texas will eventually break the $10 mil mark, might with this hire.

  99. afrancis55 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:20 PM

    Lane Kiffin and Gene chizik are available

  100. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 9:23 PM

    I’m not insulted not trying to insult. We have opposing opinions, that doesn’t make us enemies. When it’s over, one of us will be wrong, but it won’t make either of us stupid.

    I’m interested to see how this shakes out.

  101. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:24 PM

    I’m right Norm. hahahha just messing.

    I’m not sure where we differ now, Saban not likely going.

    Who are you betting on?

  102. thefiesty1 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:26 PM

    It’s Texas and always has been. Maybe you ought to lay off the bottle for a few days before posting anything else on CFT and attacking everyone else’s opinion.

  103. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:29 PM

    Holy cow.

    You just never cease to amaze me. We established your drinking problem, and you are telling me to stop doing what you do, except not well.

    Ugh. To be honest, 30 for 30 Youngstown Boys and Huskers v Longhorns on ESPNU is just too distracting. So I’m getting bored with this.

  104. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 9:33 PM

    @bender …

    Yes … but reality is in the eye of the beholder :)

  105. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:35 PM


    Or those who talk about this stuff for a living. Versus guy sitting in his home office who reads a story or two.

  106. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 9:37 PM

    I’ll take a big leap now and say definitively it won’t be Tomlin, Sean Payton, Belichick (seriously?? lol), or anyone named Harbaugh. Have any other NFL names been floated? (That guy was kidding about Jason Garrett, right?)

  107. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 9:39 PM

    I’m a gal, bender. You talk about this stuff for a living? Then why are you giving it away on CFT?

  108. thefiesty1 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:39 PM

    Thanks Deb, well said.

  109. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:40 PM

    Who suggested Belichick or Payton?

    Tomlin’s a real possibility. I think he’s a better choice for college anyway. Plus, he’s on the way out of Pittsburgh if it continues.

    I think the hot names in college have the inside track.

    Get a guy that knows the current landscape.

    David Shaw should be on the top of the list.

  110. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:42 PM


    Didn’t say that. But m opinions are formed heavily through the work of guys who do.


    I read your comments over several threads. You can’t even begin to see how foolish you are.

  111. halbert53 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:42 PM

    UT is one of the top 10 jobs based on available recruits, money, facilities, academics, etc. But like the other top jobs where it ranks within top 10 fluctuates. If Brown had retired after NC, at that time would have been top job. PSU would usually be a top 10 job, but probably not after scandal. ND normally a top 10 job too, but they hired a coach from Cincy.

    Point is, even if UT was the top job at this point in time (which it isn’t ), coaches in the top 10 jobs are unlikely to move to another top 10 job.
    Meyer didn’t come to UF from a top 10 job.
    Miles didn’t come to LSU from a top 10 job.
    Kelly didn’t come to ND from a top 10 job.
    Sark didn’t come to USC from a top 10 job.
    Brown didn’t come to UT from a top 10 job.
    Fisher didn’t come to FSU from a top 10 job.

    All these schools had money to hire virtually anyone, but chose not to hire someone already in a top 10 job.

    Top programs usually hire a proven head coach in a different conference, promote from within, or hire a coordinator from one of the power conferences.

    My bet is no Saban, Fisher, Malzahn, Miles, Sumlin or Briles. Current head coach possibles would be Freeze, Strong, Mora or Cutcliffe. Kirby Smart would be good choice but he would have to choose between eventually being HC at Bama or UT.

    Look for UT to do same. But it is not simply about who UT wants, it is also about who would be a good fit and if a prospective coach feels he would like the job.

  112. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:43 PM


    I know you are a gal, I wasn’t referring to you. Not once have I referred to you in my shots at some of these clowns.

  113. cometkazie says: Dec 14, 2013 9:44 PM

    Time to go “Poof!”

  114. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:44 PM

    More would have taken Washington if anything.

    He’s happy in LA. He owns the town.

  115. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 9:44 PM

    I’m not sure who I think the favourite is at the moment. Strong should be a name brought up. I would at least call Briles. Freeze is another name that comes to mind. As for coordinators, Morris, Smart, and Chavis maybe. I don’t see them hiring an NFL coach.

    Who do you think they hire?

  116. bralinshan says: Dec 14, 2013 9:46 PM

    Poor Bender. Saban is the only person in America that has ever changed his mind about a job…he might be the only person to ever change his mind about anything EVER.
    Wow, the standards that you set for Saban are pretty high. It doesn’t matter what he does the rest go his life, he’s a scumbag!
    Bender, when you start living to the highest standards YOURSELF, then feel free to criticize other people.
    The simple fact is that people who bring up the personal shortcomings of others, always have plenty of crap in their own attic. My guess is that Bender has done plenty in the “deception” area. Saban lives a personal credo of excellence that 99.9% of the population cannot touch. It makes Bender feel better to call somebody like Nick Saban a scumbag…whatever.

  117. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:48 PM


    He’s maintained Stanford, and in my opinion, made them better.

    Runs a good offense. Well liked.

    Tomlin, I could see. I don’t see many NFL guys being an option just because I don’t see any of them having strong enough ties. Doesn’t mean there won’t be calls made. haha

    I’ll say I think they should hire Shaw. But, it’s so tough to guess who they do hire.

  118. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 9:48 PM


    What are you his cousin?

    Get over it.

  119. bralinshan says: Dec 14, 2013 9:56 PM

    Watch out for Jim Mora Jr…He did sign an extension last week but UCLA is hamstrung financially and his 6-year deal is for less than $3M per season.
    The CA economy has hampered UCLA in facilities for football and in coaching salaries. Rick Neuheisel was very open about the disadvantages the finances and facilities gave his program.
    Mora has proven to be a great fit for college. He’d actually be better in an environment with first class facilities and real money for his assistants.
    And if Texas gave him $4M a year? He’d bolt Westwood in a second.

  120. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 10:04 PM

    Shaw would be a grand slam, but I don’t see him leaving Stanford. He is an alum. Also, I’ve heard him talk about Stanford, college athletics on the whole, and the west coast. He doesn’t sound like the guy that would leave his alma mater for money or fame. Totally just my opinion and I could be way off base. I think Strong might be the best coach they could woo away. Tennessee almost did.

    NFL coaches usually are not suited to coach college kids. Different mentality, plus recruiting really is year round. You have to foster relationships with HS coaches. NFL coaches actually have more time off then college coaches. Some will succeed in moving to the college game, I just don’t have faith in it happening. Exceptions to coaches with college HC exp.

  121. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 10:09 PM

    Great point about Mora. Texas may be able to get him. Personally, I would like to see him succeed while USC is full strength before saying he is a great college coach. Maybe I’m a harsh critic, but seen coaches have a good couple seasons, then implode. Gene Chisik is a great example.

    Not sure hire well Mora fits in with the Texas culture either.

  122. sportsguy3434 says: Dec 14, 2013 10:10 PM

    Norm, you are right about how the coaching landscape has changed.

    Bender, for a Husker fan you have a crush or an inferiority complex for UT haha. Watching re-runs of when Nebraska when they were good and going against UT? UT came to the Big 12 and took the Neb vs OU rivalry away and has been throwing their weight around ever since…and it has come back to hurt them or at least the big 12.

    I will also say Texas is a top 3 college job, but they won’t get just anyone. I’ll give you some guys who won’t go to Texas: Saban and Peterson. I would be surprised if Jimbo Fisher, Malzahn, and Meyer left and they would be crazy to do so. I am not even listing NFL guys.

    UT will get a great coach, but not everyone is interested. Maybe some of these guys should start saying it publicly haha

  123. uffdatx says: Dec 14, 2013 10:13 PM

    How about Bronco Mendenhall, he out coached Mack Brown earlier this season. Unbelievable that BYU of all schools put up 550 yards rushing on UT.

  124. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 10:18 PM

    Buddy of mine (live in So Cal), he’s confident Mora will stay. Based on what he told Rome too.

    But, I will say, I’m not saying it won’t. Just not expecting it.

    Shaw is a hot name, but I think you may be right Norm. He may stay there.

    Sports, no crush, no inferiority complex either. Nebraska took the Heisman away from McCoy and thanks to a 1 second add on (AM I RIGHT BAMA) Texas got the NC game instead of a BCS game for pride. Nebraska likely caused enough panic in the McCoy camp that when McCoy got hurt he was done, even though many say he could have played. The national perception of Nebraska v Texas is very distorted.

    I can agree with the top 3 job. I just like to bust your chops anyway. I think you notice that the guys I respect I actually take their opinion and will hear it. 😛

  125. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 10:18 PM

    bender …

    Thanks. Both Belichick and Payton were mentioned once on one of these threads. But the commenter may have been kidding.

    As a diehard Steelers fan, I’m 99 percent sure Tomlin’s job is safe for now and even more sure he won’t walk away from it to take a college job. And I’m not sure about him being better suited for college. He has a good temperament for college (at least I would have said so before Footsygate, or whatever you want to call that bizarre mental aberration during the Ravens game). He likes teaching. But I question what kind of recruiter he’d make. He doesn’t have Cowher’s eye for talent. And recruiting is everything.

    It’s easier to knock down names than come up with a real possibility.

  126. waynefontes says: Dec 14, 2013 10:19 PM

    bender4700 says:
    Dec 14, 2013 7:47 PM

    I respect Bear Bryant as much as anyway and what Alabama is, but Nick Saban is a scum bag liar who throws his own players under the bus. But he win’s titles so people just put up with it.

    Aren’t you a Nebraska fan? What do you think of Doctor Tom, a man who let women beaters back on his team. More than once.

    Lawrence Phillips and Christian Peter.

    Not only did Saint Tom Osborne not kick Phillips off the team, he reinstated him.

    Saban may lie, he may throw others under the bus, but he doesn’t support men who beat women. Which means he’s one up on Dr. Tom.

    So before you cast stones at others, just know your beloved Dr. Tom is one of the scummiest coaches in the history of football.

    But hey, he’s a Nebraska guy so I guess it’s OK.

  127. thefiesty1 says: Dec 14, 2013 10:21 PM

    Hey, Bender, it’s past your bedtime.

  128. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 10:25 PM


    Doctor Tom gave kids a 2nd chance to better their lives.

    What a jerk.

  129. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 10:28 PM


    I mentioned Belichick, pointing out a guy who wouldn’t go.


    I love the Husker haters who point out Osborne with 20/20 glasses off. Christian Peter is doing well in life, and credits Osborne for giving him a chance to fix his wrongs. LP didn’t do so well.

    But Mr. Revisionists, LP was suspended for several games. In a season where he was a legit Heisman candidate. Learn facts. Fool. LP didn’t have any other incidents while at Nebraska.

    It’s easy for YOU to talk about Osborne, but Osborne believes in helping kids become men. You can 2nd guess him, but he never lied. I’d rather have Osborne give too much faith to a kid than a BOLD FACED LIAR.

    Good argument. Moron.

  130. keltictim says: Dec 14, 2013 10:28 PM

    If I’m a recruit I turn and run.

  131. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 10:29 PM

    Although it didn’t work out well for Notre Dame, they may do the Weis thing and go for an NFL assistant. If that’s the case, maybe Del Rio would be considered. Dan Quinn, the DC for the Seahawks had the Gators in the top 10 as their DC for 2011 and 2012, and the ‘Hawks are the top defense in the NFL right now.

    But don’t go by me. Bear, Saban … Noll, Cowher, Tomlin. I like defensive coaches as head coaches :)

  132. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 10:30 PM


    Can you tell us you are going to bed 8 times, but keep coming back because you have no life?


  133. normtide says: Dec 14, 2013 10:38 PM

    One current NFL coach might need mentioning is Shanahan. He wants out of DC, and I think his reputation as a coach is still mostly intact.

    The name I keep coming back to is Charlie Strong. He was a great DC and an awesome recruiter. And, I think he could be lured away.

    Another thought. I really think USC hire Sark after a couple of refusals from other candidates. They didn’t want to be seen as desperate or that they were having trouble getting who they wanted. Sark was a safe offer. And quick resolution.

    Last thing, Bobby Petrino is a great coach who is begging for another BCS league gig. He has baggage, but you can’t deny his ability.

  134. bamaqt says: Dec 14, 2013 10:43 PM

    Born and raised in Pittsburgh. PRAY they take Tomlin. Won’t happen.

  135. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 10:46 PM

    I dunno Norm. I don’t know if Shanahan is a college guy. He can barely deal with a 2nd year guy.

    He does want out, but he wants Snyder to pay him.

  136. bender4700 says: Dec 14, 2013 10:46 PM

    I don’t think Petrino gets a top job for awhile. Need more distance between his mess.

  137. Deb says: Dec 14, 2013 10:50 PM

    @bamaqt …

    Another Bama/Steelers fan? Hello!

    No … it won’t happen :)

  138. sportsguy3434 says: Dec 15, 2013 12:25 AM

    Good grief did Suh ever raise his stock in that game! What a beast.

    101 clock mismanagement. When Colt was rolling out I was thinking the clock was going to run out. I bet Mack was screaming. He had one finger up fighting for one more tick. That was so close and one of Pelini’s better battles there

  139. raysfan1 says: Dec 15, 2013 12:36 AM

    It’ll never happen, but it’d be amusing if they hired Mike Leach.

    Like Saban, Malzahn, Fisher, Mora, and Sumlin, Freeze just signed an extension. I’d bet every one of them has a pretty hefty payout attached too. Texas is capable of breaking the bank to get a coach, but they won’t. I also doubt they will want to cause the intra-conference animosity that would come from going after Briles or Gundy.

    If I were Texas’ AD, I’d be looking at David Cutcliffe, Bill O’Brien, James Franklin, Charlie Strong, and Mark Dantonio.

  140. normtide says: Dec 15, 2013 1:24 AM

    Raysfan- I agree. Texas could double any salary, but they won’t. Is there really a coach out there worth $10 million plus, including salary and buyout?

    I disagree about avoiding upsetting other members of the 12. I have seen nothing that makes me think they care want any other league member likes. Maybe they have learned, but I have to see it first.

    For some reason I keep overlooking D’Antonio. He would make a great coach at Texas. Probably the most underrated coach in the country.

  141. raysfan1 says: Dec 15, 2013 1:50 AM

    Normtide- I agree that Texas has no qualms about pushing its weight around and acts like the Big 12 is all about them. That, after all is part of why Texas A&M bolted to the SEC. I just have a hunch they won’t act so brazenly in this case…I’m being careful to include the hedge in what I say because I don’t know and wound not be floored if I proved to be incorrect.

  142. raysfan1 says: Dec 15, 2013 1:54 AM

    …oh, and Mark Dantonio would, in fact, be my first choice if I were the Texas AD, Charlie Strong second.

  143. 1chilla says: Dec 15, 2013 1:58 AM

    Smart move texas u wait to make mack brown step down after nick saban signs extension with bama with his strong recruiting ties to state of florida he could hadd texas back in title hunt n no time…next logical choice urban meyer another strong recruiter who knows how to win r settle for less n bring will muschamp back good recruiter but can’t coach on the big stage yet

  144. v2the4 says: Dec 15, 2013 3:05 AM

    Mike Leach was a name I was thinking about earlier this year, but he just signed an extension at Washington state also, but when has a contract extension with a hefty buyout ever kept a coach from leaving?

    all of the big names that have been bantered about have signed contract extensions….the Texas money men, aka boosters, fell in love with Saban, but I doubt he is coming and if he did, after just saying “I havent thought about Texas” how long would he stay? three years? five years?

    now where does Texas turn? there are probably four or five coaches who will give UT a look. I think Charlie Strong at Louisville is a no brainer….dude can recruit, can coach and imagine what he could do at UT with all those resources.

    David Shaw at Stanford is the next hottest name on the list, but he is Stanford alum, loves the west coast and has shown he can beat football powers all and is able to recruit nationally and bring in athletes with the academic background of Stanford.

    James Franklin, Vanderbilt…what Franklin has done in Nashville is beyond remarkable…he took an SEC also ran and turned it into a pretty good team…there are no more easy “W”‘s when you play Vandy and he has them in their third straight 8-4 season and heading to their 3rd straight bowl game…prior to Franklin coming, Vandy had been to 4 bowls in the previous 120 years

    Pat Fitzgerald-Northwestern..another coach like David Shaw, would be tough to leave his alma matter, but he has the same issues that Stanford, Duke, and Vandy have, trying to recruit great student athletes to an academic institution. He only went 5-7 this year and had some epic losses after the 4-0 start and top 15 ranking, but he has won 55 games in 8 years at Northwestern. would be a tough sell to the Longhorn faithful.

    Mike Dantoni- Michigan St…he just completed a 12-1 season, taking Sparty to their first BCS game and their first rose bowl since 1987. he has went 56-29 at Michigan State, and 81-46 overall.

    as for any pro head coach leaving the pinnacle of football and coming to UT, I doubt it…the only coaches who leave the NFL to head to college are those who have been fired(Wanstadt, Galley, Al Groh) and I doubt if Mike Tomlin would leave the Steelers or Jim or John Harbaugh would leave the niners or ravens respectfully.

  145. lawyermalloy says: Dec 15, 2013 6:00 AM

    The way that Texas handled this was abysmal and any legitimate candidate should be skeptical of going there!

  146. scotchman says: Dec 15, 2013 6:46 AM

    This is pretty simple.

    First thing… Texas cannot have any coach it wants. It’s a personal decision, and some coaches don’t want to go to Texas. No big deal. You weed those out and move on. But nobody really knows who those are at this point.

    Second thing. Saban is out. If he was going to Texas, you’d know it by now. He’s been leveraging Texas vs. Alabama for the last year, and might have made the jump if Alabama hadn’t put enough money in his pocket. But they did, and he signed the deal. If he was still considering Texas, he wouldn’t have signed it. Realistically, Saban is not going to be it.

    Third thing, and here’s the hard one for most people to accept. At this moment, just about anybody else is still in play. True, some people aren’t going to want the job, and some people might even turn down the job. But Texas is a school with an unparalleled recruiting base and almost unlimited resources. And Austin is not your normal podunk college town. It’s one hell of a nice place to live, especially if you make $5-7 million a year. If you offer all that and a huge raise, a lot of big names are going to be interested. Shaw, Briles, Malzahn, Fisher…. any of those guys would be interested. Would they take it? Maybe, maybe not. Who knows?

    But anybody is still in play. People have been saying for the last 10 years that Texas is one of the most attractive jobs in the country, and we’re about to find out just how attractive. I’d be willing to bet it’s attractive enough to pull a big-time name. Nick Saban might have played Texas on this one, but I think he’d have made the jump if a few things had gone a little differently.

    If DeLoss Dodds were still the AD, I could see him going for an “up and comer.” But Steve Patterson is the new guy in town and is under some pressure to make a splash. I would be surprised if this hire isn’t on a much higher level than somebody like Hugh Freeze or Jim Mora.

  147. scotchman says: Dec 15, 2013 7:12 AM

    Qualifier: The one “up and comer” that I could see Texas going for is James Franklin. Not just because of his record, but his personality. Texas wants somebody charismatic for the LHN, and that guy could sell ice to eskimos. He might just talk his way into the job. Still wondering why USC went with Sarkisian without even giving him a serious look.

  148. artisan3m says: Dec 15, 2013 9:45 AM

    Considering Saban’s track record with Miami and his leaving for Bama, I wouldn’t put much stock in his contract extension. But wouldn’t it shock the world if Texas picked Gruden? Money would not be an object. Stranger things have happened.

  149. thegeneral7694 says: Dec 15, 2013 11:50 AM

    The Saban thing is over, guys….accept it. Gruden is even more pie-in-the-sky than Saban was.

    Texas needs to focus on realistic candidates, and if I were them I’d focus on these 2:
    James Franklin. That guy has charisma, and could sell himself if he could get in a room with Patterson and the other decision-makers. His record at Vanderbilt is INCREDIBLE, considering that he’s coaching at….you know, VANDERBILT and has to compete in the shark-infested SEC waters. Nobody in the modern era has ever come close to accomplishing at Vandy what he has. With Texas’s resources and recruiting fertility, he could really do wonders there.
    Mark Dantonio would be an excellent coach as well, but he doesn’t strike me as the most personable guy…. given all the booster club commitments and LHN nonsense, maybe they might want someone more charismatic. But he coached under Tressel and Saban, and has won everywhere he’s been. Has a nearly .700 winning percentage at MSU, which is incredible and better than anyone since the ’40s (including Saban). Would bring the toughness to Texas that they frankly haven’t had under Mack for several years.

    Certainly not saying that there are no other worthy candidates, but if I were Texas, I’d make those 2 guys say “no, thanks” before I seriously looked anywhere else. Just my opinion…

  150. bralinshan says: Dec 15, 2013 11:58 AM

    Saban is not going to Texas. If he did change his mind, he still couldn’t go to Texas…
    He’d be crucified all over the USA media and by fans for being the ultimate liar.
    It’d be a personal disaster and he’s too smart to do it twice….Texas will get another coach very soon but it won’t be Saban.
    IF Texas waits a few weeks? That will tell you that they are after either Malzahn or Fisher. The smart move on their part is to get the right guy as fast as they can to stabilize recruiting.
    There is only one bowl game where the coaches would not step down before its played at thats the NC game. If Texas doesn’t hire a new coach before the NC game, look for the coach to be either Fisher or Malzahn.

  151. mbankston says: Dec 15, 2013 12:40 PM

    Mack Brown was a great recruiter, but he can’t coach. He has a losing record against OU, which normally would get you fired at UT. The only reason he wasn’t is OU has not had great success recently. If not for one great college player “Vince Young” Texas would still be looking for a National Championship under Brown. Let’s not forget the Chris Simms Era, What a joke. He’s been the problem for years, not the solution. Just watch, a new coach will come in and have an immediate impact similar to USC. And oh by the way, you better hope Oregon doesn’t come in the Alamo Bowl focused or they beat Texas by 40.

  152. dhardy8207 says: Dec 15, 2013 1:44 PM

    Lesson of the day:

    Maintain Millitary Silence! which is exactly what Brown did until after the BIG meeting with his superiors and after Nick Saban signed an extension with BAMA…

    The way I look at this is Mack got the last laugh. The arrogance of Texas deep pockets to put out such a flurry of stories some based on something as baseless as a tweet from a newspaper reporter in Austin. Yes indeed, wishful thinking on the part of people involved who thought they could buy anyone they wanted meanwhile forcing their current HC out. Who would want this job now seeing how the powers that be operate behind the scenes?

    Brown’s expression while Patterson was making his speach at the banquet says it all. He had the look of someone that couldn’t get a foul odor out of his nostrils, almost like he could barely stomach the comments that were aimed at mending the tense relations that had been brought on by all the media hype and loose lips of the Longhorn boosters….

  153. amosalanzostagg says: Dec 15, 2013 3:02 PM


    Astute observation on texas.

    “Brown’s expression while Patterson was making his speach at the banquet says it all. He had the look of someone that couldn’t get a foul odor out of his nostrils, almost like he could barely stomach the comments that were aimed at mending the tense relations that had been brought on by all the media hype and loose lips of the Longhorn boosters….”

    It has been that way forever at UT. People come and go, but the culture remains.


  154. cometkazie says: Dec 15, 2013 3:14 PM

    I remember when the successful Vandy coach came to LSU.

    Does anyone else?

    At least it resulted in St. Nick coming there, too.

  155. Deb says: Dec 15, 2013 3:43 PM

    I don’t think Saban ever intended to go to Texas. Mack is a friend. Nick’s said said repeatedly how much he regrets the whole Miami debacle, so why tell 60 Minutes he’s going to retire at Alabama then leave five minutes later? That would just be Miami Part Deux. Being expected to wine and dine the boosters is not a good fit for his temperament. He’s welcoming the best recruiting class in the nation. And his daughter-in-law just gave birth today–in Tuscaloosa–to his first grandchild.

    Gramps is where he wants to be and wealthy enough to buy all the stuffed elephants a baby girl could want.

  156. cometkazie says: Dec 15, 2013 4:01 PM

    Deb, I was wondering about Saban’s children.

    IIRC, they were mid-teens when he was at LSU, the son being older.

    Any idea what they are doing?

  157. Deb says: Dec 15, 2013 9:22 PM

    @cometkazie …

    The girl finished high school in Tuscaloosa and went to Alabama. Think she graduated this past spring, but I’m not absolutely sure. His son lives and works in Tuscaloosa. I’ve been told what he does, but just don’t remember. My understanding is that he and his wife are happy there.

  158. cometkazie says: Dec 15, 2013 9:34 PM

    Thanks, Deb.

    Speaking of coaches’ children, I saw in a CFT post that Miles’ daughter is on the UTexas swim team.

    I knew she had multiple letters but not in swimming.

  159. Deb says: Dec 16, 2013 12:07 PM

    @cometkazie …

    The Texas swim team? Oh no. Shhh … don’t tell any of these rumormongers! LOL

  160. southernpatriots says: Dec 16, 2013 1:28 PM

    In my flu medicated fog or senility, I may have some of the details a little off, but the latest is…

    Les Miles and his wife have bought a house in Austin. Miles took a trip there immediately following his taking in the Parkview state championship high school football game in Bossier City and spoke at length with the Longhorn AD.

    Les is looking for anyone in Austin to cook his favorite dish–crawfish etouffee, but to this point, no success. There is a rumor that he will get the dish flown into him from a certain chef and physician in south Louisiana to whom he has pledged lifetime season tickets.

    Les is looking for a building taller than 24 stories to repell down in Austin (everything is bigger there you know), and looking to get back into the Big 12. Les and his wife have spoken with Nick and his wife to get inside info. Meanwhile, a long term contract extension is being prepared by LSU AD Aleva. The latest is that UT has offered Les’ son who QBs the University High team as a junior a full scholarship and he will graduate early so all can join his older sister at UT, on the family scholarship plan.

    That is the latest I have heard….I think?

  161. dhardy8207 says: Dec 16, 2013 2:59 PM

    Oh Southernpat what a can of worms you have opened here….LOL

    I was just about to buy into it myself until you included the part about Nick and his wife. First the Saban’s are house shopping and now Les is also…

    Good Stuff my friend…

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