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Florida State wins final BCS Championship Game as Winston responds to adversity

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Hollywood could not have scripted a better ending to the BCS era in college football. Following great endings in each of the previous BCS bowl games, the BCS Championship Game did not disappoint. Down four points with just over a minute to play, Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Jameis Winston was charged with having to lead the Seminoles 80 yards for the game-winning score, and he delivered. A short pass over the middle to Kelvin Benjamin was held on to for a go-ahead touchdown with just 13 seconds to play. Auburn, the team of destiny heading in to the title game, had seen their magic run out, and Florida State brought a death-blow to the SEC’s BCS championship winning streak in the final BCS Championship Game to be played.

Florida State 34, Auburn 31.

So long BCS. Thanks for the memories.

Florida State was down 21-3 in the second quarter, but the game never got away from them. Any question about how this team would handle adversity was answered in most dramatic fashion under the brightest spotlight of the season. Florida State scored a late touchdown in the second quarter when Winston completed the first of his two touchdowns to Devonta Freeman to make it a 21-10 deficit at the half. The Seminoles tacked on three points in the third quarter and set up a one-score game heading in to the final quarter of the college football season.

Florida State continued to carry the momentum in the fourth quarter by pulling to within one point of the Tigers. A Jameis Winston touchdown pass to Chad Abram on the right side of the field made it a two-point game, 21-19, but an unsportsmanlike penalty on Devonta Freeman for taunting the Auburn sideline following the score held Florida State to nothing more than an extra point attempt rather than potentially going for a game-tying two-point conversion. The video replay showed it may have been a tad of an overreaction by the Big Ten referee, but it was still a situation that could have easily been avoided by Freeman.

The penalty was enforced on the ensuing kickoff, giving Auburn a free 15-yard head start on what turned out to be a pivotal possession. Auburn traveled 69 yards and ran just over six minutes of clock but had to settle for a field goal. This gave Auburn a 24-20 lead, but it was short-lived. A 100-yard kickoff return by Levonte Whitfield electrified the Florida State section of the Rose Bowl with the first lead of the night by the Seminoles since a 3-0 lead in the first quarter. Florida State finally clawed all the way back, but the defense failed to come up with a stop.

Auburn, who had come up with late momentum-shifting plays down the stretch of the season with a bit of flair, did so once again by going to their strength, the running game. the Tigers capped a 75-yard drive on eight plays, leaving 1:19 left on the game clock. The final play of the drive came when Heisman finalist running back Tre Mason ran over a Florida State defender and ran 37-yards for a touchdown. The way things had gone this season for Auburn you may have thought that would have been the cherry on top of a miraculous turnaround season for Gus Malzahn‘s Tigers, but this time it was Florida State who had one last memorable drive in them.

A total of 80 yards separated Florida State from a national title. The team that had been the most dominant team from the start of the season through the conference championships, needed to dig deeper than they had early in the year against Boston College and much deeper than needed against Clemson or Miami. Adversity? Like everything else this season, Winston and Florida State brushed it off their shoulders like it was no big deal. Except that it really was.

Winston completed the first three plays of the drive to move the offense down to the Auburn 17-yard line. The big play was a 49-yard completion to Rashad Greene, but a defensive pass interference on Auburn’s Chris Davis in the end zone on a 3rd and eight gave Florida State a free first down at the two-yard line. On the very next play Winston found his favorite target, Benjamin, for the game and championship clinching touchdown.

Whew.

The college football season is now in the books. Florida State won their third national championship in school history, and brought the BCS era full circle.

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135 Responses to “Florida State wins final BCS Championship Game as Winston responds to adversity”
  1. babyfarkmcgeezax says: Jan 7, 2014 12:25 AM

    SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!! SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!! SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!! SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!! SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!! SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!! SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!! SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!! SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!! SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!! SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!! SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!!

  2. fsu01 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:27 AM

    What a game! FSU wins, Auburn showed up. Great on both teams.

  3. villain612 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:27 AM

    Best BCS Championship Game ever. Even better than USC/Texas 2006.

    Whatever you think of Jameis Winston as a QB – he certainly deserves all the accolades after overcoming diversity and performing in the clutch.

    Congrats to the Seminoles.

  4. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 12:28 AM

    babyfarkmcgeezax is aptly named.

  5. villain612 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:28 AM

    *adversity

    My bad

  6. taintedlombardis says: Jan 7, 2014 12:29 AM

    Didn’t Tebow say 34-31 FSU?

  7. taintedlombardis says: Jan 7, 2014 12:30 AM

    It was preordained by his holiness.

  8. cspsrbums says: Jan 7, 2014 12:30 AM

    Chris Davis Jr congratulations for single handily blowing the National Championship game. No need for you to interfere with the passer he wasn’t getting that ball on 3rd down. And way to give up the Inside route you blew it

  9. oldschoolnflman says: Jan 7, 2014 12:30 AM

    If alabama didn’t get wiped off the mat by Oklahoma, I would listen to the FS didn’t beat the class of the SEC argument. Fortunately, Oklahoma took care of business. 13-0 undisputed champs great season FSU from a non SEC non ACC fan.

    Ps I guess Duke wasn’t so bad, playing 52-48 to Johnny Football playing his ass off. Too bad Miami got beat on by Louisville or Acc would be looking pretty good right now.

  10. slaugin says: Jan 7, 2014 12:30 AM

    I love reading the comments from the first half. Humble pie’d

  11. derekgorgonstar says: Jan 7, 2014 12:31 AM

    I love the Auburn fans yelling “SEC” at halftime.

    Go home and cry in your trailer-parks.

  12. taintedlombardis says: Jan 7, 2014 12:31 AM

    Auburn got Auburned. They deserved it. They weren’t really deserving of being there anyway.

  13. palecollegedude says: Jan 7, 2014 12:32 AM

    Sorry SEC. Your NC streak is over. The better team won tonight & the correct player won the Heisman instead of Tre Mason.

  14. BrownsTown says: Jan 7, 2014 12:32 AM

    No chants of “ACC” at the end.

  15. taintedlombardis says: Jan 7, 2014 12:32 AM

    No woman or child is safe in Alabama now. Alabama and Auburn lost.

  16. ohioguy614 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:33 AM

    THANK YOU FLORIDA STATE! YOU MADE EVERY COLLEGE FOOTBALL FAN OUTSIDE OF THE SEC VERY, VERY HAPPY. COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS FUN AGAIN NOW THAT THE SEC LOST.

  17. atwatercrushesokoye says: Jan 7, 2014 12:33 AM

    Wow, what a game! The BCS was a horrible thing, but they had a bunch of great games this year and ended things on a high note!

    And no doubt in my mind the game flipped on that fake punt, if FSU kicks it and goes into the half down 21-3 or worse they lose the game easily, but that play gave them a spark and badly needed momentum.

  18. villain612 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:33 AM

    My Facebook feed is a trail of tears of SEC fans oddly decrying the loss of a team that isn’t their own.

    What’s with these people?

  19. jrs45 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:33 AM

    babyfarkmcgeezax,

    Chill out you loser. I’m not even an sec fan!

  20. ttalarico says: Jan 7, 2014 12:34 AM

    I think the ACC looks pretty good and I don’t think they’ll chant “ACC”.

  21. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 12:34 AM

    Congratulations to the Seminoles. The game was everything we could have hoped for–a nail-biter down to the last second. Thanks to Auburn for representing the SEC so well. Losing to a heavy favorite by 3 points in the final minute is hardly going down in flames. Seven straight championships for one conference–that’s quite an accomplishment. Let the playoffs begin!

  22. ukeone says: Jan 7, 2014 12:34 AM

    Congratulations to the rightfully deserving champions of the final BCS era: THE FLORIDA STATE SEMINOLES!!! Auburn did a very nice job…they just couldn’t finish it, that’s all. As for the SEC, this is the beginning of the end…you can bank on it!

    SEC-ya! SEC-ya! SEC-ya!

  23. daaabears says: Jan 7, 2014 12:35 AM

    If I was Auburn, I would have sat down at the one yard line on their last TD. Kneel down on 1st and 2nd downs (making FS use two timeouts), try to get into the end zone on 3rd down and if you don’t make it, kick a field goal for the tie.

  24. luxinterior78 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:37 AM

    Auburn coaches need to tell Mason to save his mocking Heisman poses till AFTER the game. Got shown why Winston won, he stepped up when its all on the line. Still dont know how they missed the horse collar on Green’s big reception. Auburn also got lucky recovering the three fumbles on punts and kickoffs. Regardless, awesome game. Auburn realized the other side of a big play giving up a kickoff for a TD. In the end my Seminoles are the National Champions and I probably won’t sleep tonight. Making all SEC fans cry in their beer is just a bonus!

  25. bralinshan says: Jan 7, 2014 12:39 AM

    Nice intelligent post. I’m an FSU fan so I’m delighted, but when I see somebody post stuff like that about the SEC? It makes you realize that the SEC is big in some people’s heads.
    If you believe that the SEC is overrated, why all the obsession? Of course, my team plays in the ACC, but I’m no fool and I realize that the SEC is the premier league and that isn’t changing soon.
    But, we’ll rule our little league, and we’ll be in that 4 team deal more often than not.

  26. mjrcu says: Jan 7, 2014 12:40 AM

    The ACC did not win anything today and the SEC did not lose anything. Florida State beat Auburn. Clemson won the Orange Bowl. Wake Forest and NC State did not play a game in December,

    All of this SEC chanting year in and year out have made conference cheering a thing in college football as other conferences have been forced to do the same. Really bizarre.

    Awesome college football season, looking forward to next year with the playoffs. See what happens with the BCS bowl games when teams like N. Illinois and Fresno dont make it in

  27. liverpoolred04 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:41 AM

    @luxinterior78 you’re a fuckin tool, don’t talk about missed calls dumbass, as y’all held the whole damn game, if anyone is lucky it’s FSU. Dropped touchdown pass, fake field goal, missed field goal, and Gus Malzahn shittin the bed in the second half.

  28. bucrightoff says: Jan 7, 2014 12:42 AM

    Auburn left 10 points on the field in the first half with the miss on the wide open play early that would have been a TD and the FG. Probably could have used either in the end. Great game, the Rose Bowl has the two best BCS Title Games as it should be. Best venue in sports.

  29. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 12:42 AM

    taintedlombardis says:

    Auburn got Auburned. They deserved it. They weren’t really deserving of being there anyway.
    ————————————————–
    Given the overwhelming number of jackasses that have already appeared on this thread, it would be futile to try answering them all. But as an Alabama fan who thoroughly hates Auburn, I will answer you.

    Auburn demonstrated on the field how much they deserved to be in the game. They lost to the heavily favored Seminoles by three points in the closing minute. You hate the SEC. Yeah, we get it. But to claim a team playing at that level didn’t deserve to be in the game just means you’re a simple-minded troll with the football knowledge of a mushroom cap. I’m surprised you’re capable of wiping your own nose, let alone turning on a computer.

  30. normtide says: Jan 7, 2014 12:42 AM

    FSU played a great second half. They earned this win.

    Auburn played well too, just not enough defense at the end. Hold your head high.
    The fans trashed Bama after the sugar bowl, but forgot they needed to win their game.

    To the b1g fans and other claiming the SEC is now an after thought, let’s see how next year plays out. Remember, outside of a fluke OSU title, from a phantom PI call, the northern most city to win a BCS title is Knoxville. Cheering for the SEC to lose is all you have. Tonight is the closest you will get to a title.

    Again, big congrats to FSU. When the sec streak ended, it had to be to you. And of course, auburn would be the one to lose it. The Seminoles will be a force again next year, don’t see anyone in the acc competing with them. And, I will not say Bama would have best you, regardless ofthe sugar bowl outcome. Our db’s wouldn’t have held up.

    Your the best around, nothing else is going to keep you down!

  31. villain612 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:43 AM

    Nobody outside of the SEC bubble looks at their conference the same way SEC-idiots look at theirs.

    When people outside of the SEC make references to the whole “SEC/Conference thing”, we’re mocking how idiotic you are.

  32. pastabelly says: Jan 7, 2014 12:45 AM

    That was just a great game. All great teams aren’t from one conference. PAC and ACC were both up this year and that’s great for college football.

  33. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 12:47 AM

    You kids don’t get why SEC fans support the conference as a whole rather than just their teams. That’s fine. I don’t get why you care that we support the conference and act like complete asses about it. Not all SEC fans support the conference. For those of us who do, we get it–and that’s what matters.

    But you’re idiots if you think you’ve seen the last of the SEC in championship contention just because we’ve lost one game by three points after a seven-year run. Then again … you are idiots. Drink up, boys. Tomorrow will be here soon enough :cool:

  34. ttalarico says: Jan 7, 2014 12:47 AM

    Conference chants, what’s that?

    Conferences are way overrated.

    Go Irish!

    Great game by FSU and Auburn!!!

  35. 1990tiger says: Jan 7, 2014 12:50 AM

    Congrats to FSU. Thought we would win….especially after our last TD. Now I know how UGA and UA fans feel. As disappointed as I am, I’m sure those people who placed $100 wagers on AU to win the NCG last January feel worse……..

  36. taintedlombardis says: Jan 7, 2014 12:50 AM

    Deb is emotional right now. Everyone be nice to her.

  37. donovandancy says: Jan 7, 2014 12:50 AM

    So, not only did FSU win the National Championship. BUT . . .

    FSU now has the record for most points in a single season.

    Winston is second all time is yards for a season (behind only Russel Wilson)

    Aguayo now scored more points than any other kicker in a season.

    Freeman is our first 1000 yard rusher since 1996 (dunn)

    and both Green and Benjamin caught for over 1000 yards this year.

  38. realfootballfan says: Jan 7, 2014 12:51 AM

    What a great game. Tip my hat to Auburn, but Jameis was nails late. The whole team came through, and they’re going to be dancing on Tennessee street tonight, lol.

  39. longtallsam says: Jan 7, 2014 12:51 AM

    ukeone says: Jan 7, 2014 12:34 AM
    …As for the SEC, this is the beginning of the end…you can bank on it!

    I am definitely not an SEC fan, but I wouldn’t count on that. More often than not, the SEC will probably have two of the four playoff teams, which will give them great odds of winning the NC.

  40. taintedlombardis says: Jan 7, 2014 12:52 AM

    Or should I say he/she/it?

  41. mjrcu says: Jan 7, 2014 12:53 AM

    @Deb what don’t we simple fans of other conference teams get? Not even trying to be rude. Maybe I’m just a simpleton

  42. villain612 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:54 AM

    Walmarts all over Alabama are not going to be pleasant places tomorrow.

  43. longtallsam says: Jan 7, 2014 12:55 AM

    What a refreshing change. In BCS games this year, ACC 2-0, SEC 0-2.

  44. clemsonstillsucks says: Jan 7, 2014 12:55 AM

    Great game this evening. Winston for sure put the Noles on his back in the 4th quarter. Nice end for his freshman season. Congratulations to all you Noles fans out there!

    Can’t wait for next season when all the bullshit automatic qualifier bowl tie ins go away and we get to see the nation’a four best TEAMS duke it out.

  45. waynefontes says: Jan 7, 2014 12:56 AM

    Congratulations to Florida State. They had an amazing season capped off by an amazing finish.

    The best team in the country is the national champion. What a year for Jameis Winston.

    I’m one of those SEC homers, and no I’m not angry or sad. The Southeastern Conference had an amazing streak of national championships that won’t be duplicated. But all things come to an end.

    But I know the fans of the rest of the country are more than tired of SEC teams and SEC fans (even though we’re all so friendly and polite – hahaha).

    It is good for the sport to have different champions from different regions, so congratulations to FSU and their fans.

    The SEC was one of the best conferences in football this year, but not the undisputed best.

    Which is good for the sport, and good for all fans of football, not just the ones in SEC country.

    A great year of college football is over.

  46. midtec2005 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:56 AM

    Three of the secs top four teams lost, to the B1G 10, Big 12, and ACC.

    Now the SEC is obviously a good conference, but this nonsense about being head and shoulders above the others has got to stop.

  47. villain612 says: Jan 7, 2014 12:59 AM

    The Big Ten had a better record in BCS bowl games this year than the SEC.

    But hey, at least AJ McCarron’s girlfriend is still hot….or something.

  48. ukeone says: Jan 7, 2014 1:00 AM

    Deb says:
    Jan 7, 2014 12:42 AM:

    “But as an Alabama fan who thoroughly hates Auburn, I will answer you.”
    ————————————————–
    Where’s all the SEC loyalty and support for your fellow SEC teams? WOW, Deb, your anger is really getting a little out-of-control, don’t ya think?

    Take an aspirin and relax before you go as ballistic as that crazy Alabama lady did, going after all those Oklahoma guys after Alabama’s embarrassing LOSS to the Sooners (please refer to that ‘very funny’ video).

    “Was that you, by the way?” LOL!

  49. realfootballfan says: Jan 7, 2014 1:01 AM

    Can’t wait for the second act of the Famous Jameis Winston show. That was a Heisman moment that you couldn’t write a script for. I heard he was special and didn’t want to buy into the hype, but let me say, yea, he’s special, lol.

  50. silentcount says: Jan 7, 2014 1:03 AM

    It took a team in the southeast to beat a SEC team? The only thing keeping Florida State from being a SEC team is a false label.

  51. villain612 says: Jan 7, 2014 1:03 AM

    Auburn lost by 3. I guess that missed field goal would’ve came in handy.

    What’s the deal with SEC teams from Alabama having lousy kickers?

  52. nickp91 says: Jan 7, 2014 1:05 AM

    What a game What a comeback! Good way to end the BCS era

  53. luxinterior78 says: Jan 7, 2014 1:06 AM

    @liverpoolred
    Way to take the bait, you must be an SEC fan. If this, if that. You sound like my cousins in Gainesville. It was a fake punt btw, not a fg. Also Im really more of a prick than a tool. Thought you would know the difference seeinh as how you have one in your mouth every chance possible

  54. gamustangdude says: Jan 7, 2014 1:07 AM

    Boy, why so much anti-SEC hate? Hell, you knew the streak would eventually end.

    Its hilarious how some deem this “the fall of the SEC” after the SEC went 7-3 in bowl games this season.

    This isn’t about the SEC it’s about FSU. They were supposed to win and did.

    Sorry Auburn fans,

    Glad the BCS is dead. SEC finally lost in a title game, 8-1 during the BCS, Best BCS bowl record, and still the best conference.

    7-3 bowl record better than PAC12, BIG12, ACC, & especially the Big 10.

    You may start your thumbs down now!!!!!!!

  55. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 1:08 AM

    @ukeone …

    Been supporting Auburn all night. But don’t ask me to actually like them LOL

    No … that wasn’t me. I am not blond :)

  56. BrownsTown says: Jan 7, 2014 1:11 AM

    Lots of anger in Dixie tonight!

  57. BrownsTown says: Jan 7, 2014 1:15 AM

    “What’s the deal with SEC teams from Alabama having lousy kickers?”

    When you’re constantly oversigning and you can’t force enough kids to pretend to have insurmountable medical issues, kicker is often the first place you turn in a pinch.

  58. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 1:16 AM

    mjrcu says:

    @Deb what don’t we simple fans of other conference teams get? Not even trying to be rude. Maybe I’m just a simpleton

    ———————————————
    It’s a long-standing regional, cultural thing. Pro football didn’t come to the South until the late 1960s. College football was everything here–a source of regional pride, bonding, intense rivalry. There’s an “us against the world” aspect to it. We a bitter rivals with each other, but stand together against everyone else–much as America does when challenged from the outside.

    Not every fan gets caught up in the SEC tribe thing. My brother was ready to kill me over the holidays because I was going to root for Auburn in the title game :) But he’s not on here every day reading all the nasty comments from B1G fans directed at Southerners. If he were, he might feel differently.

  59. gamustangdude says: Jan 7, 2014 1:18 AM

    Here come the Big 10 fans spouting their conference worst 2-5 bowl record. If I were you I would smile and keep quiet. After going 1-5 against the SEC in bowl games past couple seasons you haven’t earned the fight to talk sh%÷.

  60. gamustangdude says: Jan 7, 2014 1:22 AM

    Meant right not fight, thanks galaxy S4 auto correct

  61. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 1:23 AM

    Haha, BrownsTown. A couple of years ago when Bama missed five FGs against LSU, we had the top kicking recruit. They’re kickers. You can’t trust kickers. I’m a Steelers fan. We missed the playoffs because Kansas City’s always reliable kicker missed a chip shot. I haven’t stopped smiling since Kansas City lost on Saturday sending their sucky kicker Ryan Succop home from the playoffs. :D

  62. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 1:25 AM

    @gamustangdude …

    So true. The nice thing is that, if we had to lose, Bama lost to a Big 12 team and Auburn lost to an ACC team. They’re mouthing off a lot on here, but the B1G still hasn’t done spit.

  63. atwatercrushesokoye says: Jan 7, 2014 1:25 AM

    I would label myself a college football fan (I’m a North Carolina fan and we don’t get any of their games in Canada, we do get some of their basketball games though thankfully, so I just enjoy watching the other teams play great games) and while I was glad to see the SEC title run end I think that anyone who believes it’s the “end” for the SEC in general is crazy.

    What it might be the end of is the inflated respect (some times warranted, mostly not) that the SEC as a conference tends to get. The top 2-3 SEC teams are usually excellent and win or at least be in the championship of any conference, but it’s that next group of teams that usually gets overrated. Teams like Georgia and South Carolina, a lot of times LSU, get lumped in with the top teams and because of this get overrated early, and when the top teams beat them it’s considered a quality win, but in reality those wins aren’t coming against teams who are as good as their rankings indicate.

    Hopefully the committee will see through this and recognize that winning against an SEC team that wins 2-3 early out of conference games against bad teams and an in conference game against Kentucky or Tennessee or one of the bad SEC teams and then limps to a 8-4 or 7-5 finish probably was never one of the top 10 teams in the country and isn’t a quality win.

  64. cspsrbums says: Jan 7, 2014 1:26 AM

    Winston is probably taking liberties with an unwanted participant tonight. That’s ok he allowed to.

  65. taintedlombardis says: Jan 7, 2014 1:28 AM

    gamustangdude,

    The non-BCS bowl record is bunk. Every team the SEC played was a lower ranked opponent. And most of those games were played in the South. That was by design. To feed the confirmation bias monster of stupids like you.

  66. sportsinhd says: Jan 7, 2014 1:28 AM

    I have lived in Big 10 Country (Illinois and Michigan) and SEC Country. The idea that one geographic region simply loves college football more than another one is incorrect. Last time I checked there weren’t NFL teams in Iowa either.

    SEC folks live and breathe college football, but so do folks in Michigan and Ohio. There is no “the world versus SEC” crap, the SEC has ESPN and the Eastern Media in their back pockets, and have for a few decades now.

    This was a great game tonight, and showed just how much parity there is in college football at this moment. Michigan State or Stanford would have played Florida State just as close as Auburn tonight too.

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  68. 93warchant says: Jan 7, 2014 1:32 AM

    yeeeah baby the Florida State Seminoles are National Champions once again. First off I get a lot of people want the sec fans to shut it, but the sec is loaded with top recruiting classes so we will see a sec team in the 4 team playoff here n there. if there’s 1 team out there that can say they should of been playing Fla, state instead of auburn is Michigan state. With all that being said, congratulations to all who celebrate Seminole football here’s a toast to you. -:-::-::–>

  69. normtide says: Jan 7, 2014 1:36 AM

    Hey genius, FSU is in Dixie. Whole lot of very sad people in Cleveland, but just because they live there.

  70. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 1:39 AM

    @sportsinhd …

    I was speaking from a historic perspective. I’m sorry you don’t have a historic perspective regarding regional cultural issues. The fact that you have limited understanding of something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

  71. gamustangdude says: Jan 7, 2014 1:40 AM

    @taintedlombardis says:

    Whatever guy excuses, excuses, excuses. Matchups are what they are, you feel they favor the SEC because the Big 10 sucks and have sucked for a while, I get it. Of course any bowl match up with the Big 10 vs. the SEC is going to favor the SEC. Most of the bowl matchup have conference ties, and the SEC has a lot of bowl games with conference ties to the Big 10. That’s how the bowls were desinged, if you don’t like it, petition the Big 10 to not accept the bowl invites. crying about it won’t make it better. Maybe you’d favor more ACC bowl ties or American conference bowl ties, against lesser opposition, to give your boys a chance to win. I got it how about DIV I-AA teams in bowl games, Big 10 might be able to break .500 then, what do you think?

    As for your stupid comment, comming from you, I laugh and shake my head.

  72. lrical says: Jan 7, 2014 1:50 AM

    Go UTEP miners. Forget SEC. It’s all about conference USA. Why ? Cuz this is America!!

  73. taintedlombardis says: Jan 7, 2014 1:54 AM

    gamustangdude,

    tl;dr

    Tebow just telepathically sent me a message. He says “gamustangdude lacks the horsepower to satisfy his wife/sock. Should have been a chevycamarodude instead.”

    Just forwarding the message man. Nothing personal.

  74. grudenthediva says: Jan 7, 2014 1:55 AM

    Gatorfan1. Hey, you there, little boy?

    Tell us how our ass tastes.

    Scoreboard, pissant.

  75. gamustangdude says: Jan 7, 2014 1:59 AM

    atwatercrushesokoye says:

    Another one of these, “I hate the SEC and they aren’t as good as anyone else,” comments. You can literally take out “SEC” and substitue any conference name in there. All Conference have 1 maybe 2 top tier teams, besides the big10, and a bunch of middle to low tier teams. Kentucky and Tenn are no worse than teams like North Carolina State, Virgina, Purdue, or Illinois. You sit here and say the the middle and low end teams are no better than the other conference yet the SEC teams consistently out performs them in bowl games

    I got it, you don’t like the SEC. Honestly All conferences have thier top teams, middle teams, and not-so-good teams. SEC is no different.

  76. gamustangdude says: Jan 7, 2014 2:01 AM

    taintedlombardis says:

    really? you wasted time to type that out?

    so sad.

  77. villain612 says: Jan 7, 2014 2:01 AM

    Not sure if what Jameis Winston did with that girl in December of 2012, but he sure did rape the Auburn secondary on that last drive.

  78. taintedlombardis says: Jan 7, 2014 2:03 AM

    Hey. Sometimes it gets a laugh. Sometimes it doesn’t. Somebody will enjoy it.

  79. gamustangdude says: Jan 7, 2014 2:06 AM

    taintedlombardis says:

    “Hey. Sometimes it gets a laugh. Sometimes it doesn’t. Somebody will enjoy it.”

    sounds like something your wife/girl consistently tells you

    Ok, i’m done with you

    poof

  80. taintedlombardis says: Jan 7, 2014 2:08 AM

    Now you’re just being gross.

  81. taintedlombardis says: Jan 7, 2014 2:11 AM

    Well played though.

  82. sportsinhd says: Jan 7, 2014 2:12 AM

    >I was speaking from a historic perspective. I’m sorry you don’t have a historic perspective regarding regional cultural issues. The fact that you have limited understanding of something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

    Aren’t you just a peach?

    As I said, I have lived in both places (Go Vols!) and I’m speaking from actual experience. Think about your comments for a second. You are implying that programs like Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska have less devoted fans than those at most SEC schools. That’s ridiculous, and it’s just not true.

    There’s a love for college football that burns just as great in the American Midwest as it does is the South. There are great fan bases everywhere! I don’t understand why it’s always a pissing contest about the SEC being the greatest group of fans in the world. ( cough cough Kentucky football, every conference has problems.)

  83. thermanmerman99 says: Jan 7, 2014 2:36 AM

    LMAO as usual, Deb is on here in her menopause on the rag attack mode because her podunk garbage state went 0-2 in BCS bowl games. what will you inbreds in alabama do? i know it is too cold for you hicks to leave your trailers tonight since it is below 40 degrees in gumpville today and tomorrow so you inbreds are really screwed. a bunch of rednecks stuck inside for the next 2 days to spew over this SEC loss BWAHAHAHAHA wow this is hilarious. keep the laughs coming

  84. dcroz says: Jan 7, 2014 6:37 AM

    BrownsTown: Lots of anger in Dixie tonight!

    Maybe it’s the bitter cold in that bitter cesspool of a city you live in, but FLORIDA State University is in Dixie, too. And you Yankees disparage education in the South. Sheesh….

  85. dcroz says: Jan 7, 2014 6:39 AM

    Congratulations to Florida State University on a great game and a great win in taking the final BCS National Championship! And congratulations to the Auburn Tigers on a great game and an incredible season!

  86. dcroz says: Jan 7, 2014 6:45 AM

    themannerman99:

    Yeah, we’re losers here in Alabama. I mean, we only had the BCS National Champion here four consecutive years, something no other state can claim not just in the BCS era, but even in the poll era going all the way back to 1936. And the SEC had the national champion for seven straight years; prior to this streak, the best any conference ever managed was to win three straight…and the SEC was the last to accomplish that, as well (1978-9 Alabama, 1980 Georgia). So yeah, my state and conference lost tonight…but I’d wager our losing is still a helluva lot better than whatever passes for winning in whatever godforsaken part of the world you infest.

  87. cleekk says: Jan 7, 2014 6:52 AM

    For the life of me, I’ll never understand how a group of people, usually from a large city, somehow think they are both intellectually and athletically superior to another group. Year after year the population of FL doubles in the winter because of all the snowbirds. In the summer, tourism in the South is one of the biggest industries. If you don’t think trailer park trash exists in the North, you’re delusional. I’ve lived in Chicago and let me be the first to say those people have absolutely nothing to brag about, yet they think they are superior to Southerners. The state of Illinois doesn’t double in population – during any season or event. I’m an SEC fan and quite honestly feel the SEC dominance has been bad for college football. Now you have teams jumping conferences, traditional rivalries going by the wayside and everyone chasing the almighty buck. I’m thrilled Alabama lost, not because I hate Alabama, but that kind of dominance hurts the game and produces a super- obnoxious fan-base. Kudos to FSU, they put together a great team and had a great run.

  88. teambringitstrong says: Jan 7, 2014 7:23 AM

    Wow, just wow. The final BCS title game in Pasadena, both teams staying in my backyard here in Newport Beach, CA and FSU wins late. This FSU alum, undergrad class of ’85 is as happy as a pig in slop!!

    It’s a 60 minute game, a marathon not a sprint. For all the smack that was being talked in the 1st half, CRICKETS now. Once JW5 figured it out, this game was over. After being down 21-3, the ‘Noles outscored Auburn 31-10.

    As Kool Moe Dee asked in 1987, How Ya Like Me Now!?

  89. cometkazie says: Jan 7, 2014 8:51 AM

    I have a friend here in Kentucky who couldn’t give away his UK football tickets, so he let them lapse.

    But I guess Ky isn’t in Dixie.

  90. shyts7 says: Jan 7, 2014 9:10 AM

    With this win, dare I say you have to throw this team in the conversation of greatest team of all time!

  91. mrlaloosh says: Jan 7, 2014 9:11 AM

    The fact that your ” in Kentucky” speaks volumes. Keep that still runnin’ because it’s gonna be cold tonight.

  92. cometkazie says: Jan 7, 2014 9:17 AM

    I’m in the BlueGrass so that won’t be necessary.

    The Wild Turkey place is just up the road.

    Lotsa Bourbon facilities around here.

  93. packergator says: Jan 7, 2014 9:18 AM

    Fitting ending for a season in which the ACC stood up to be counted. It began with a high-profile ACC team beating a high-profile SEC team (Clemson over Georgia) and ended the same way.

    As usual, the title game didn’t go quite the way people expected – the Auburn defensive front and secondary manhandled FSU for at least the first half, and the key matchup (FSU’s big receivers against Auburn’s undersized corners) only became the deciding factor at the end.

    Kudos FSU and the ACC for a great season, from an SEC fan.

  94. waynefontes says: Jan 7, 2014 9:41 AM

    cspsrbums says:
    Jan 7, 2014 1:26 AM
    Winston is probably taking liberties with an unwanted participant tonight. That’s ok he allowed to.
    —————————————————-

    I get the attempt at humor, but you should have used “unwilling” instead of “unwanted”.

    A 20 year old Heisman winning QB who just won the national championship will not have to deal with “unwanted” when it comes to post game celebrations.

  95. dkhhuey says: Jan 7, 2014 10:06 AM

    Awesome game to watch and congrats to FSU for getting the crystal ball trophy!!! They looked clueless for a bit and just as it appeared to be the beginning of a blowout – they settled down and took care of business!

    Auburn came prepared to play and did their university and fan base proud! Congrats to them for a truly crazy season and some fantastically wild finishes!

  96. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 10:06 AM

    sportsinhd says:

    Aren’t you just a peach?

    As I said, I have lived in both places (Go Vols!) and I’m speaking from actual experience. Think about your comments for a second. You are implying that programs like Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska have less devoted fans than those at most SEC schools. That’s ridiculous, and it’s just not true.

    There’s a love for college football that burns just as great in the American Midwest as it does is the South. There are great fan bases everywhere! I don’t understand why it’s always a pissing contest about the SEC being the greatest group of fans in the world. ( cough cough Kentucky football, every conference has problems.)

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    A peach? Wouldn’t be the first term that comes to my mind, no. lol

    It seems you misunderstood my post. I’m talking about historic cultural issues involving the Southern region. And living in the South isn’t the same as being a Southerner, with all the inherent chip-on-the-shoulder issues which go along with that. If you have no idea what I’m referencing, then you’re either not Southern, haven’t spent much time reading these threads, or lack historic perspective.

    For one thing, I wasn’t in any way implying Southerners love college football more than anyone else or that the SEC has better fans than anyone else. I was asked why SEC fans support the conference rather than just their own teams. And whether or not the single state of Iowa has a pro football team is irrelevant to my point that the entire Southern region–from Kentucky and Tennessee in the north to Texas and Arkansas in the West and the Atlantic in the East–had no pro football until the late 1960s. That ensured the entire region was focused on college football until relatively recently as these things go.

    The region has been historically poor, historically demeaned and ridiculed by the rest of the country, and–whether or not you are aware of it–has historically had an Us v. Them attitude toward the rest of the country. Having highly successful football teams that whipped the rest of the country was a bonding experience. The teams are fierce rivals among themselves but the fans take pride in the success of the South as a whole against the rest of the nation.

    Again, you may not get that … but it is very real.

  97. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 10:13 AM

    thermanmerman99 says:

    LMAO as usual, Deb is on here in her menopause on the rag attack mode because her podunk garbage state went 0-2 in BCS bowl games. what will you inbreds in alabama do? i know it is too cold for you hicks to leave your trailers tonight since it is below 40 degrees in gumpville today and tomorrow so you inbreds are really screwed. a bunch of rednecks stuck inside for the next 2 days to spew over this SEC loss BWAHAHAHAHA wow this is hilarious. keep the laughs coming

    —————————————-
    As usual, you’re unable to discuss football but choose to attack my gender, the state of Alabama, and Southerners. Based on what I’ve seen of your posts that’s because you can’t speak intelligently on the sport of football and have some serious women issues.

    What did John Taylor, our lovely blog host, say to you? Go back to tryouts for the girls’ volleyball team and let the adults talk? Yeah … do that.

  98. stixzidinia says: Jan 7, 2014 10:23 AM

    Great seeing the SEC lose, but crappy seeing a likely rapist win. On the plus side, that rape and the shady circumstances that covered it up will affect this kid’s draft stock.

  99. babyfarkmcgeezax says: Jan 7, 2014 10:33 AM

    Gotta love lil’ Debbie’s southern persecution complex. Why don’t you just come out and say you’d like to see Jim Crow return?

    It’s college football. This “we have the best fans because we’re from the south and appreciate college football more” pissing contest nonsense is pathetic. Auburn is the most hated rival of the team you claim to be a fan of and you’re throwing a fit like you personally lost to Florida State.

  100. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 10:43 AM

    @babybarkingmad …

    The guy who screamed in all caps, over and over, about the SEC on multiple threads is saying I am throwing a fit? ROFL The SEC is obviously more in your head than mine.

    Then you go on to post the exact opposite of what I said. Yes, pathetic is the appropriate term. So sorry about your reading comprehension scores. Tsk, tsk.

  101. babyfarkmcgeezax says: Jan 7, 2014 10:58 AM

    Ahh yes, the standard projection tactic of SEC fans. SEC fans always arrogantly try to take credit for the work of other teams in their conference, all these “SEC!! SEC!!” chants all the time, etc. and when they are mocked for it they act like the ones doing the mocking are the ones who are pathetic. If the media constantly shoved a difference conference’s supposed superiority down your throats all the time and that conference’s fans take it as gospel, you might feel differently.

    Don’t worry though Deb, the media will rank the entire SEC in the preseason Top 25 like always so all “your” teams can get inflated rankings all season even when they lose, so all will be right again in your sad little world.

  102. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 11:22 AM

    @babyfark …

    To be honest, it probably would grate on my nerves if–as the fan of an SEC team–I were constantly told, say, the Pac-12 was the best conference with the best teams, yada yada. Other than actual games, I don’t watch ESPN’s college coverage, so I’m really oblivious to that.

    To me, the SEC is like all conferences, with teams that play at a high, middle, and lower level. The internal competition is a little more fierce than in most conferences. I know a coach who left Saban’s staff to work for a Division I team in another conference. He went from working 80-100 hours a week to getting home each night for dinner. That speaks for itself.

    But utlimately, it’s your team. Auburn is a huge rival. Most of my family rooted against them last night. Tennessee is another huge rival. We’ve developed a lot of enmity with LSU in the last few years. I don’t consider it a win for Alabama if LSU wins a championship, and certainly not if Auburn does. And most SEC teams hate the Tide. But as I said in my earlier post, an SEC win is a win for the region against people who inexplicably call us trailer trash because they’re incapable of talking football. Sorry you don’t understand that. But you’ve never walked a mile in our shoes.

  103. mrlaloosh says: Jan 7, 2014 11:32 AM

    Everybody knows Tennessee has the best Bourbon.

  104. babyfarkmcgeezax says: Jan 7, 2014 12:02 PM

    “The internal competition is a little more fierce than in most conferences.”

    How is this even determined? How does someone measure the “fierceness” of internal competition between conferences? What scientific, provable evidence exists that an Oregon-Stanford matchup isn’t as “fierce” as, say, Georgia-Florida? Have you experienced both so you can give a fair assessment (even though it isn’t measurable and would still be nothing more than opinion-based), or is this just another thing that non-southerners “don’t get”?

  105. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 12:08 PM

    You know, babybarkingmad, I tried notching this back and just conversing with you as an adult. But you don’t want to notch it back. I’ve written about historic cultural issues, given an example of the different coaching styles in the SEC and other conferences, but nothing is going to satisfy you because your only interest is in bashing Southerners and the SEC. And I’m not your personal punching bag. You have a bee up your backside. You’re bitter about how the media promotes the SEC. Not my problem. Write a letter to ESPN. Or do what the rest of us have to do when the media overhypes something that annoys us. Be a grownup and suck it up.

  106. babyfarkmcgeezax says: Jan 7, 2014 12:26 PM

    How was my comment not simply conversing? I was simply curious how “fierceness” of internal conference competition is measured, and how, if it even COULD be measured, it can be compared between conferences by someone who has not had extensive experience of college football outside of one single conference.

  107. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 1:28 PM

    baby …

    Your sarcasm seems excessive. My comments about cultural and regional issues in the South are based on a lot of historic research. But when it comes to comparing the internal workings of one conference to another, I’m simply voicing opinions as a fan of the game. That’s the same expertise I share with you, everyone else posting here, the paid writing staff, and the network talking heads. Few of us have coached or played the sport–and even that wouldn’t provide magical answers to these questions that you keep implying I should have if I’m to be allowed to post.

    Is the competition in the SEC more fierce, or is that simply my perception (and the perception of many other football pundits)? I don’t know. Seven straight titles from one conference certainly indicates a level of dominance. That doesn’t strike me as rocket science.

    When the NFC won 13 consecutive Super Bowls in the 80s and 90s, all the pundits said the AFC was dead and the NFC was the Super Conference. As the diehard fan of an AFC team, I didn’t lose my mind, accuse everyone of bias, rant and rave at the understandably proud (and often arrogant) fans of NFC teams, write letters to the editor, and DEMAND to know why the media thought the NFC was dominant. Again, not rocket science. And though I rooted for the Broncos, I didn’t run screaming NFC DOWN IN FLAMES!!!! NFC DOWN IN FLAMES!!!! over and over when Denver finally beat Green Bay in 1998.

    But maybe that’s just me.

  108. pinkdisposaldotcom says: Jan 7, 2014 2:04 PM

    Top 5 best games !!!!

  109. babyfarkmcgeezax says: Jan 7, 2014 2:20 PM

    Ok then Deb, since ONE TEAM winning the national title each of those 7 years makes the entire SEC the best overall conference each of those years, surely you believe that the ACC was the best conference this year, right?

  110. florida727 says: Jan 7, 2014 3:49 PM

    babyfarkmcgeezax says:Jan 7, 2014 12:25 AM
    SEC DOWN IN FLAMES!!!

    ——————————————-
    Brilliant post. First time in EIGHT YEARS that the SEC is not hoisting the crystal football and that qualifies as “going down in flames”. You’re obviously a football genius.

    Congratulations to FSU. I have a lot of close friends that are ‘Noles fans, and although I was rooting for Auburn, I’m certainly happy for ‘Noles fans everywhere, and my friends in particular. Well deserved win. They should enjoy it. It’s what makes sports great.

  111. Deb says: Jan 7, 2014 4:49 PM

    No, barkingmad, I believe FSU was the best team this year. But if FSU wins the title next year, Miami wins the following year, Clemson takes it, then FSU takes it again, then Duke wins, then Miami wins again–giving the ACC seven consecutive titles–I will have the good sense to recognize that the ACC is the dominant conference in college football.

    You see, when the teams winning seven consecutive national titles hail from the same conference, it’s pretty obvious that conference is dominant. Not rocket science … unless you’re a whiny lil boy whose team doesn’t play in that conference.

    As I said, it was annoying as heck being an AFC fan when the NFC dominated the Super Bowl for 13 consecutive years–with a lot of different teams–and the media kept harping that the AFC was dead and couldn’t possibly compete. But you’d have had to be brain dead not to recognize where they were coming from :roll:

  112. normtide says: Jan 7, 2014 9:21 PM

    They complain cause sec fans root for each other, when playing ooc games. Yet they all celebrate when a team, that isn’t their own, beats an SEC team. Very enlightened.

  113. gatorcheme says: Jan 7, 2014 11:13 PM

    Adding onto Deb’s explanation of football and the Southern culture:

    I’ve lived in many different places over the years: North Dakota, Montana, Missouri, Massachusetts, Illinois, Georgia, Florida, Texas, and California.

    All of these places have great passion for college football and the respective conferences that dominate these areas. Yes, even Montana and North Dakota. I’m a Bobcats alumni, myself.

    Here’s what’s key. In the south, esp in ACC and SEC territory, all talk is about last night’s game. People skipped work. Bosses ensured that folks had time off. Bets were placed. Water cooler talk was just about this game. I know, I have many friends and family in the south.

    On the west coast, just miles from Pasadena, I came into work today just itchin’ to talk about this game. No one in my office saw it. One guy said, “That was last night?”

    THAT, my friends, is the difference.

  114. packerbadger says: Jan 8, 2014 8:27 AM

    Lol @ $ECheat conference. Now that football is over, its going to be a loooooong winter down in Alabumpkin. Deb probably needs a few weeks of therapy to get over this. What will the $ECheat football players do now? Go to school? BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

  115. Deb says: Jan 8, 2014 10:51 AM

    @gatorcheme …

    Exactly! A friend was telling me yesterday that when she first moved to Florida from the Midwest, her Gainesville employer told her they’d be closing early for Gator Growl. She didn’t understand what it was, and they looked at her like, well, “Bless your heart.” LOL

  116. Deb says: Jan 8, 2014 10:56 AM

    @packerbadger, you poor semi-literate, fool. Considering how much you post to and about me, it seems you could remember I’m a Floridian. The winters are fairly short here. And football season doesn’t end until February 2. Then I’ll look forward to the Combine, Free Agency, National Signing Day, OTAs, camp, preseason … you see that’s what real football fans do. And some of us have lives beyond sports.

    BTW, I enjoyed watching a warm-weather team come into Lambeau and beat the Packers in that Ice Bowl you kept raving about. Mmm mmm good stuff that.

  117. packerbadger says: Jan 8, 2014 1:42 PM

    Poor Deb…. confined to her duh-ba-wide (they don’t pronounce “L’s” here in the south) and won’t miss a meal all winter. Yes, San Fran did come in and beat our JV team….barely. Now I have to watch our 4th ranked Badgers in Basketball now and of course our Hockey team while you dream about “next yr”. Oh, how did your NFL Alabumpkin team do? Oh, I forgot, you don’t have one, thats why you’re a Refereeler fan (Remember Green Bay beat them in a Super Bowl a few yrs back). I’ll also be looking forward to watching our Wisconsinites compete in the upcoming winter Olympics (How many Alabumpkins are in the winter Olympics?….oh….I’ll tell you….NONE!). I also get to enjoy watching Wisconsin sports fans having a lot of fun watching our year’round teams, win or lose; unlike your white trash women attacking opposing teams fans or killing opposing teams trees.

  118. gatorcheme says: Jan 8, 2014 7:16 PM

    Kevin, John…moderators? I’m all for the freedom we enjoy on this blog that doesn’t exist in many other places. However, there’s got to be a limit to the trolling and baiting that we must all tolerate…

    Packerbadger, ukeone, Seriously dudes (dudettes?) Are you so morally bankrupt? ukeone, where do you have so much time to post so much hate? Do you hate life so much?

  119. cometkazie says: Jan 8, 2014 8:04 PM

    Gatorcheme says:

    Here’s what’s key. In the south, esp in ACC and SEC territory, all talk is about last night’s game. People skipped work. Bosses ensured that folks had time off. Bets were placed. Water cooler talk was just about this game. I know, I have many friends and family in the south.
    +-+-+
    In Louisiana it also includes what you ate over the weekend and where you ate it.

    “My MamMaw fixed the most wonderful . . .. . ”

    Serious arguments are had over whether okra is appropriate in a gumbo, whether Manda’s sausage is better than Savoy’s, who serves the best __________. (Fill in blank.)

    All this is after the sports talk.

  120. normtide says: Jan 8, 2014 10:24 PM

    Ukeone, you are the perfect example of class. You certainly have a way with the ladies.

    PackerB- how is Green Bay doing in the playoffs?

  121. packerbadger says: Jan 9, 2014 8:27 AM

    Green Bay was lucky to be in the playoffs considering they got there with their practice squad. Green Bay got a home game and Green Bay got some extra revenue. When the Packers lost, we didn’t have any white trash women diving at San Fran fans and we didnt go destroy any property as Alabumpkin did. Thats why the Packers are rated as the best professional franchise in all of spots. Oh, how is Alabumpkin doing in the NFL playoffs?
    Hey gatordude…. I guess you’re one of those sanctimonious southern hypocrites eh?

  122. dhardy8207 says: Jan 9, 2014 10:53 AM

    packerbadger says;

    “Now that football is over, its going to be a loooooong winter down in Alabumpkin.”

    —————————————————————-

    Over the past week there has been indepth coverage on the NATIONAL news level of how the severe and extreme temps up North are a direct contributor to increase cases of depression. “Cabin Fever” as we here in the south call it or the inability to get out causes changes within the brain that alter mental and emotional temperment.

    You sir obvioulsy have a severe case. Now the postive side of this is that there are meds to treat the depression, but bigotry has no such medical cure. Your constant need to bash southerners that you have no clue about personally and choose to stereotype proves that insanity has many branches. Personal insecurities and underlying misery within your own life must surely feed this neverending, repetitive appetite you have for attacking those from the south.

    Now don’t worry, we southerners below the Mason/Dixie line will do just fine down here in the winter months despite our recent temps dipped into the single digits over this past week. Most of our farmers will have a stellar crop season because the cold did us a favor killing off pest that ravage crops. See we can even find the positive in something that is running you nuts. My God man if I didn’t know better I would think at some point in life you were jilted by one of our southern belles and never got past it. Bless your heart…

    BTW, since you want to spout off about your beloved packers, please remember that one of your current work horses on that team is Eddie Lacy who played for BAMA and continues to make us proud despite he’s playing in that frozen tundra you call home.

  123. packerbadger says: Jan 9, 2014 11:58 AM

    dhardy says: “Bless your heart…”
    ==================================
    Where I come from, we say “F-U!” lol!!

  124. dhardy8207 says: Jan 9, 2014 12:34 PM

    Packerbadger says;

    dhardy says: “Bless your heart…”
    ==================================
    Where I come from, we say “F-U!” lol!!

    —————————————————————-

    Well that is truly sad that you associate a southern term of endearment with that type of insult.. I know the stereotypical opinion that “Bless your Heart” means something derogatory, however I was raised in a southern baptist household where about the most insulting thing my dad might say in anger was “go to hell”….

    “Bless your heart” in our house was a term more to mean “God even blesses the misguided or the misunderstood souls”. However, if you can pry your fanny out of all that ice you guys have up there, you might just want to come visit the south sometime. My son works with some of your wealthiest northern neighbors who own multi million dollar condos on the gulf coast of Alabama. They love his southern gentleman demeanor and often comment that he represents everything but what northerners think of southern young gentlemen. This again I contribute to how I was raised and how I raised him…

  125. packerbadger says: Jan 9, 2014 2:00 PM

    dhardy says: “I know the stereotypical opinion”
    ==================================
    I unfortunately have lived here in the south for the last several years; but fortunately, I’m outta here in the next few weeks. Most (if not all) of the southern stereotypes are true in a broad paint brush kind of way. Uneducated, lazy and still fighting the Civil War. Yes, they are still very much fighting it. The south is trying to raise its ugly head once again (Think Teabaggers) fighting for the right to own slaves and hate anybody not like they are.

    dhardy also says: “I was raised in a southern baptist household”
    =================================
    I was smart enough not to drink the kool aid. I was educated in a school, not a church. Bible says not to judge…..you judged me….you’re going to hell unless you say 97 Hail Marys and do some other nonsensical funny stuff. Most of the thumpers here are hypochristians.

  126. dhardy8207 says: Jan 9, 2014 2:42 PM

    packerbadger says;

    “I was smart enough not to drink the kool aid. I was educated in a school, not a church. Bible says not to judge…..you judged me”

    —————————————————————-

    Fancy that you would take that comment about being raised in a southern baptist home to mean I’m uneducated. For the record, I went to school, on to college and earned a bachelor’s degree. I’ve had a 20+ year career in the medical field.

    I would like to believe that you’re a better person than 90% of your post on here display you to be and would like to think that you’re a bored individual who’s wife has no desire to bicker with you. My honest opinion is in order to feed some sort of need for attention, you come on here and pick fights with those you suspect will be offended by your comments and therefore respond in the typical hick fashion so you feel justified within your opinions. I try really hard to not judge anyone without knowing them, hence why I suggested you get to know southerners before lumping us all together in a category of backwards, uneducated, and inferior. Not sure where in the south you’ve been residing but I will say that your experiences may have been biased by the obvious disdain you have for southerners.

    I’ve noticed you take shots at Deb but clearly pass some comments by when you are aware the poster is a man. Hope that is not indicative of a chauvinistic attitude that women shouldn’t have an opinion on anything that doesn’t involve keeping the house, birthing the babies, and dinner decisions. It is one thing to randomly make a derogatory statement that hints of prejudice towards any group of people, but you seem to have a particular nack for targeting BAMA fans and the only other excuse to offer up for your comments is sadly, you apparently are missing some happiness within in some shape, form or fashion. That is not being judgemental, thats the medical experience in me trying to reason with why you are so hostile and degrading toward people of my home state…

    Anyhoo, I wish you all the best on your future journeys no matter in which direction they take you….

  127. packerbadger says: Jan 9, 2014 4:01 PM

    Nice try at your amateurish psychology. Best to have facts before you engage brain/fingers. I banter with normtide quite often too. Even though Deb is a bit off in a number of ways, I’m sure she’d be the first to say that I’ve never said anything deragatory towards her being a woman. Being from the south, you should know all about keeping women down and denying them certain health care and deciding whats best for their bodies. You can force an unnecessary medical prodedure upon them by forcing an ultrasound upon their uterus and shame them by making them watch it. Oh, for the record….I am a doctor in the medical field.

  128. dhardy8207 says: Jan 9, 2014 4:32 PM

    @ packerbadger;

    Being from the south = keeping a woman down…
    Hmmm lived here 47 years and I’ve never been kept down from anything, nor have I ever been “forced” in to having an “ultrasound upon my uterus”. Everyone that lives here is not a member of the teapots party… The first African American President in history got 37% of the votes in a predominantly red state, more than any democratic candidate since Jimmy Carter.

    I’m going to assume you’re speaking of abortions when you speak of “denying them certain health care and deciding whats best for their bodies.” Heads up Doc, Alabama is not the only state that is engulfed in a battle about abortion. Our state, just like others has one stumbling block when it comes to progressive matters, unfortunately most of our elderly and white citizens refuse to let go of what they are most comfortable with and thats keeping the same career politicians in office. However, again alot of states have that same issue and that is not isolated to southern states.

  129. normtide says: Jan 9, 2014 4:53 PM

    No one thinks the packers are the greatest franchise. They are seen as a quirk. The smallest market team. A midget, not a giant. Read something not written in Wisconsin, lol.

  130. packerbadger says: Jan 10, 2014 8:29 AM

    You’re wrong norm….. google it. Packers have more NFL Championships than any other team! 13!! I guess thats just a quirk eh? I think they also have amongst the top three in Hall of Famers……just another quirk. Super Bowl trophy named after Lombardi…..Green Bay coach…..yet another quirk……..and yes, I could keep going.

  131. packerbadger says: Jan 10, 2014 10:26 AM

    Hey dhardy…..take a look at Virginias forced ultrasound laws. Take a look at North Carolinas laws as well as Texas’. Southern/Teabag states are reintroducing Jim Crow laws making it harder for blacks to vote. Not saying it doesn’t happen up north or midwest, but its a way of life here. Look at the SAT/ACT scores and see where the bottom states are…..I’ll tell you….deep south. Guess where the top states are? Last time I discussed the Civil War was second semester history freshman yr…..Civil War to present. Down here its still being fought. Southern Culture: Fighting for the right to own slaves and waving the Confederate flag…..nice. I’d like to see some of these inbred southern rednecks drive their jacked-up pickup with the Confederate flag waving from the back around south side Chicago or Harlem and then have them explain their “Southern Culture” to the locals….lol!

  132. normtide says: Jan 10, 2014 12:27 PM

    Are you and scooter going to the soda shop later? Maybe cruise the dairy queen? This isn’t the 50′s. They packers sell fake stock to get by, lmao.

  133. gamustangdude says: Jan 10, 2014 1:50 PM

    I’ve seen jacked-up pickups in California, Washington, Michigan, as well as the South.
    I’ve been to the South several times and haven’t seen anyone fighting for slaves while waving the confederate flag, when and where did that take place so I can Google it?
    Jim Crow laws? Making it harder for blacks to vote in the south? Please enlighten us all. From what I’ve read all they are asking for is a photo ID to vote, unless it’s your assumption that black people in the South don’t have photo IDs. My family lives in Atlanta, all of them have photo IDs. 33/50 states have asked for more bills restricting voting. YOU, pakerbadger, would assume most of these states are in the, sorry you would be wrong,
    The point I’m trying to make is you have ranted for several days about the south and how pathetic it is. Ok we got, opinion is noted. Now, can you please grow the hell up?
    P.S.
    “….I’m a doctor in the medical field.” Yeah right, and I’m a French model. Everything that’s said on the internet is true right?
    Next time you want to lie about your profession make it believable ok? Nothing you’ve written in the past few days remotely comes close to something I would expect “a doctor in the medical field,” would say.
    Someone as educated as “a doctor in the medical field” wouldn’t be as ignorant or as stereotypical as what you’ve displayed.
    Bottom line grow up, or don’t. Now I’m sure you’ll write some ignorant response because like most immature adolescences you don’t know when to move on and let stuff go. So write your response, I won’t read it, because from what I’ve read so far nothing you can say can affect me as you would hope it will. I will only feel sorry for you and smh. “….a doctor in the medical field” really?
    Poof!!

  134. normtide says: Jan 10, 2014 2:50 PM

    Packer has a huge inferiority complex. He has constructed a reality as a coping mechanism. He doesn’t see the world around him, or just can’t accept it.

  135. packerbadger says: Jan 13, 2014 10:35 AM

    Hey mustangdude…..I’m assuming you’re a SMU Mustang fan…..didn’t you guys get the “Death Penalty” for cheatin’ a few yrs back? LOLOLOL!! Go throw stones at your glass house. You guys should fit into the $ECheat system just fine. Oh, btw…. yes, I really am a dr. Sorry, but I just really can’t dumb myself down to your level. It appears you have a lesion in your amygdala…….

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